Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm dj head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, world? It's your favorite homegirl. Gina views.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: All right. We got a special guest in the studio. Don't want to butcher this name because she threatened to beat me up. Flaw J is here with us.
[00:00:16] Speaker C: How you doing?
[00:00:16] Speaker A: Welcome to the show.
[00:00:17] Speaker C: Thank you for having me, man.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: Thank you for coming.
[00:00:20] Speaker A: Thank you for pulling up. You know you got to experience a little earthquake. Yeah, just briefly, though. Briefly.
[00:00:25] Speaker C: A little bit. The thought of it still scares me, but, yeah.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Was that your first earthquake?
[00:00:30] Speaker C: Yeah, my first one. It don't really count. Cause I ain't feel it. I wanna feel it, like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't really feel it. 5.5. That's pretty. Like, that's not. Like.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: It's not crazy, but it's there.
[00:00:40] Speaker C: Right? Right.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: We here.
[00:00:42] Speaker B: The earthquake don't never really be the spooky thing. It be the aftershock.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause it be. Have you ever experienced. Have you ever experienced an earthquake from.
[00:00:50] Speaker C: No.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:00:51] Speaker C: All right. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Yeah, we not finished.
[00:00:53] Speaker C: I'm from Savannah, Georgia, but I live in Atlanta, Georgia. Ain't no earthquakes over there. That's one reason I don't want to move to Cali. Cause I watched the movie San Andreas. Never seen that.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: That's the reason you don't want to come?
[00:01:02] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: What y'all be having out there?
[00:01:04] Speaker C: Nothing.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Hurricanes?
[00:01:06] Speaker A: No, they got racism.
[00:01:07] Speaker C: Yeah, they too. They too.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: Racism.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Now, there's still slavery out there?
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Oh, no, it's for show plantations. When you drive through the country, it'd be like, well, you know what's the.
[00:01:18] Speaker C: Craziest thing to me? The neighborhoods in Atlanta. It'll be like. The name is, like, plantation Creek or something like that.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: I know I saw one. It. I don't want to say the name on it, but it was a big ass plantation. And you could. I literally saw they had, like, a. Like, one of them rooftop porches, a deck where you could see master was looking off, watching over. Watching his shit.
[00:01:42] Speaker C: Like, hey, you know, I got a school in Louisiana, so all of that is still.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: I'm like, hey, well, you know what?
Thank you for coming, by the way. You know what I'm saying? And I want to get to the project and all that stuff, but we gotta go back a little bit because America's got Talent was one of those ones.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Season 13.
[00:02:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Facts.
[00:02:04] Speaker B: And they brought you back for the all stars.
[00:02:07] Speaker C: Yeah. Uh huh.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: What was that whole experience like?
[00:02:09] Speaker C: Well, first of all, being on there in the first place was crazy. That was right after I had got off the rap game with Jermaine Dupri, and I had lost the rap game, and I was sick, and I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do next. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I lost the tv show. I was so mad that I lost, like, I just locked myself in the room and just was writing, writing, writing, writing.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: Was it angry writing or was it sad writing? Sad writing a little bit about it. Was it confessions or was it, like, not like us?
[00:02:33] Speaker C: No, it was, like, not like us. Confessions.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: More confessions.
[00:02:37] Speaker C: It's crazy. You said confessions? Yeah. Cause I was, like, mad at JD. You ain't pick me up. Like, you ain't gonna pick me, JD. Yeah, but. Nah, nah, that's funny, but. And so after that, I kinda just locked myself in a room. And then America's got Talent called and I was like, dang. Like, I'm so glad I kept writing. And you know what I'm saying? Even though it was mad, it helped me be ready for that, so it was crazy. And then, you know, I got the golden buzzer on there. Simon Cowell came back there and was like, you know what I'm saying? You gonna be a superstar. And that kind of helped my confidence, like, thousand percent. Like, it's different when your mama telling you every day that you a superstar, you a star, Simon Cowell, you feel me? The man ain't never give nobody compliments. So when he said that, it was crazy. And then they brought me back because, you know, my episode was like one of the highest view. Crazy thing is about that I almost didn't make it to the all star. Cause I had practice. And my coach, Moki, she don't care about none of that.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: None of that.
[00:03:25] Speaker C: But it just so happened that we didn't have practice again. And I flew there and I flew back and got it done, and I couldn't, like, compete no more in the show. Cause I had games and stuff, but I was able to get that performance to him.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: Were you discouraged at all when you didn't make it the first time?
[00:03:39] Speaker C: When I didn't make it? What? On the no.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: Between Jermaine Dupri and then going on to America's academy.
[00:03:46] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I was so. I was hurt. Like, I was crying, like, me and my mom was crying, like. Cause that's something that I wanted real bad, but it wasn't for me. You know what I'm saying? I look back, it's like, that wasn't for me.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: Have y'all had any, like, conversations or anything since you and Jermaine Dupree?
[00:04:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I actually went and played him my ep before I dropped it. When I'm playing the whole thing, like, yeah, eat this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally. You know what I'm saying?
[00:04:10] Speaker A: You know, all these people fucking with me.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah. That was really what it was. You know, I love JD, but that was one of my favorites. That's one of my full circle moments where it's like, you know what I'm saying? This situation ain't work out. But then it ended up working out how I was supposed to, and he was like, wow.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: Like, what was his thoughts on the project?
[00:04:26] Speaker C: Bro, he loved it. Like, he loved it. He was like, bro, you really rapping? Like, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was like, damn, I didn't know, like, he said I knew, but I didn't know. Like. And he was just. He was really proud of me. And I was just giving him his flowers, telling me, like, thank you, like. Cause I am who I am because of being in the rap game house and learning from Jermaine Dupri, you know what I'm saying? I don't take that lightly. A lot of people from the show, they try to downplay what he did for their careers. But I like to say, you know, I appreciate you. Cause he gave me a lot of the tools that I needed.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: Who won the season that you were on?
[00:04:58] Speaker C: Nova. Nova won it. And he was dope. He deserved to win. That was his for the taking. He deserved it. Him and ditronauta, either one should have worn that ₩1 that. But, you know, it just go to show, like, persistence and things like that.
[00:05:10] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:05:10] Speaker A: Is there any advice that you would give to people who are signing up for these shows? Whether it's like rap game or America's got Talent, idol, stuff like that?
[00:05:17] Speaker C: I would say those shows aren't for everybody, but you don't want to get stuck in that.
I wouldn't use that route. If it was me as an artist, I wouldn't use the tv route. Cause once they put you on tv, they only look at you as a certain way. Right. You know what I'm saying?
[00:05:32] Speaker A: What you mean a certain way, though?
[00:05:33] Speaker C: Like, for me, I felt like it's a good platform, but you kind of. I feel like you kind of just get looked at more so as like, an entertainer instead of people really, your raps, like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:05:46] Speaker A: And you want the respect.
[00:05:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, I want the respect. Like, I want you to be like, nah, she could spit. Like, her music fire. Like, I don't really care about all the other stuff. But I also realized that tv help you build your fan base. Cause it made people fall in love with you as a person. And now that I'm learning that, it's like, so social media, basically tv now.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: I don't feel like you have that stigma. I knew you as an artist before I knew of you playing ball. So I just saw all you, you know, you rapping and stuff like that.
[00:06:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it's different for everybody, though. Cause some people be like, oh, I know you hoop like, you cold. And they. I be like, bro, I make music like, you know what I'm saying? I dropped the song with Lil Wayne. They're like, what? Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's different for everybody else, but it's like people putting the pieces together. They're like, oh, you was on this. And then it kind of just come together.
[00:06:31] Speaker B: You had rapped over Lauryn Hills ready or nothing during that performance, and it was like, I got chill bumps watching it. How did you go about preparing even for that moment? And why did you pick that beat?
[00:06:41] Speaker C: Oh, man, I had already did the remix to ready or not, and it went viral. And so in that moment, I was like, even on a show like that, like, it's mostly white people watch that show. Let's just keep it how it is. And so that demographic, you know what I'm saying?
As an artist, you know what song is going to touch people, right? And I know that when you rap into a wider demographic, you got to go in there and talk about something that's real. Cause even if I'm talking about the struggle from the ghetto of my daddy getting killed or something, somebody, no matter. They live in the suburbs, I live in a. You could somewhat relate to that. Like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:07:13] Speaker B: Everybody loses parents.
[00:07:14] Speaker C: Yeah. Everybody could relate to something that I'm saying. So I just felt like that was the song that people already kind of knew, you know what I'm saying? The sample is iconic, the instrumental is iconic.
And I had already got the green light from, like, Wyclef and. You know what I'm saying? Stuff like that.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: That's fire.
[00:07:28] Speaker C: Yeah. So it was a perfect situation.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: That's fire. And it's also brave, too. Cause a lot of people won't touch that type. Those records, they don't be, oh, nah, for sure.
[00:07:37] Speaker C: That's real talk.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Cause you probably be sitting there reading your verse over and over, like, I gotta do it right?
[00:07:42] Speaker C: Nah, but I knew.
[00:07:43] Speaker A: Cause if not, you was gonna get dragged.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: She stole the show. Even the way you, like, walked over and stood on the table, it was just a gangster.
[00:07:50] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, and I know my music could just have that effect on you. Like, then that's why I make music. Cause it give you that feeling. A lot of people, music don't feel nothing in music no more. You know what I'm saying? That's why I was born. And I knew I already murked it. Cause it had went viral. I got 50 million views on Facebook and shit. Like, it went crazy. So I knew that's the one. And it was like, I don't know if this song's gonna get clear. Like, it never gets cleared. Like, I've been doing this for 20 years. I said, bro, that song gonna get clear. And it actually got clear. And I ain't even meet Wyclef at that time or the Lauryn Hill camp, but they mess with me.
[00:08:21] Speaker A: You speak. You spoke about it a couple times. Even in the rap, like, losing your dad, when did you get the strength to even tackle that as a subject? Like, how long did it take you to get to that point?
[00:08:34] Speaker C: Let me tell you, it really got. I always been, you know, using my dad's name. Cause that's all I had. Right. And in the south, my dad name got pulled. So when my mom was saying, like, disflage ain't camouflage daughter. Like, that's like, oh, camouflage daughter, like, you know what I'm saying? So we was using that, but I never. And when I was younger, I was like, I don't want to use that. I don't want to use my own name now. I'm like, nah, that's my story. Like, I'm using that. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was crazy. I was trying so much to build my own legacy and try to stay out of my dad's shadow when, like, as I got older, it's like, damn. Like, that's our connection.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: That's your story.
[00:09:07] Speaker C: Like, that's my story. Like, that's how I connect my dad. That's my embodiment. So I. You know, now growing up, it's harder to talk about it now, because I really now feel all the emotions of, like, not having my father in my life. But when I was younger, it was still something I was understanding. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't nothing that I felt wholeheartedly yet, because it was like, when I was younger, I was like, damn, how I'm gonna miss somebody that I never met.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: You never met? Yeah. Your mom was pregnant with you when he got murdered.
[00:09:36] Speaker C: Your mom was three months pregnant. My dad got killed in May. I was born in November, so I never got to meet him. So I was battling so much stuff mentally when I was younger that it didn't really faze me now more. So when I say it, I mean it.
When I say, like, this is for real, I take it real serious. So when I speak on it, it's all truth, it's all facts.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: Do your supporters ever contact you? Like, saying that you might have helped them get through any similar situations like that?
[00:10:03] Speaker C: All right.
That's when I know I made it. You feel me? Like, all those streams, you get lost in numbers and stuff, like. But that don't really matter. When you really affecting people through your words and your music and your story, bro, that's different. You know? Like, that's like a real gift to have. A lot of people can't touch people. Like, yeah, you could drop a song and it could bop. But, like, for people to be like, you helped save my life with your words like that mean, that's powerful. You know what I'm saying? When you got that type of power, bro, you gotta be. You gotta protect it.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: I wanna get into the music too, but I wanna also, let's not neglect the fact that you an athlete.
[00:10:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:40] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. And also, you performed with the SBS, which was dope too, because I thought so. Perfect timing, I think. Perfect timing. Perfect timing. That's my favorite song.
[00:10:52] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: It's not even, like, the bop. And, like, all, to me, it was just depp.
[00:10:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: And when I. When I see you perform, it's like you were saying, like, this is some real shit.
[00:11:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:02] Speaker A: And so when I saw you performing at the. At the espys.
[00:11:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: And I was like, why she. When you started off, I'm like, why she picked this song? And as you rapping it, I'm like, oh, yeah.
Because, you know, I'm thinking, like, as a dj, I'm like, why did she pick this? I'm in you. Like, no, like, and then even the way you saying shit.
[00:11:19] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I literally. I planned that shit out to the tee, from it being, like, with a band to no background vocals. Like, I really wanted people to know, like, no, I'm serious. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, in the purest form. I'm gonna kill it without no ad libs without no auto tune. I want y'all to hear what I'm saying. I picked that legendary fly. They told me they was like, fly? You gonna perform the espies? First of all, I'm like, you lying? Then I'm like, how much time y'all giving me? Like, I'm. At first, I think they just gonna give me, like, a little in between commercial. They like, no, we gonna give you 66. I say, that's all I need. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, bro, that's all I need. That's a long time. So I'm coming up my show D's, and I'm like, I just want to perform stuff that's on my album. Like. You know what I'm saying? So my intro, I'm just using legendary flow. Cause it's like I'm on these legendary shows, performing on these legendary flows. Like, you know what I'm saying? They gonna feel that. And then I did pop it, you know, had a little bop to it. But I knew I wanted to perform came out of beats. Cause I knew Lil Wayne was gonna be there. And I was like, did you know.
[00:12:13] Speaker B: He was gonna be sitting right there?
[00:12:15] Speaker C: Yeah. So, like, yeah. The day before a rehearsal, and I see it. Like, they had. They got the people's seats where they face gonna be on the seat. So I'm like, I need y'all to put Lil Wayne really in the front. Like. You know what I'm saying? Like shit. Like, yeah. Cause I'm really getting irritated right here. I was getting irritated. Cause at first I told her, like, y'all, I wanna dj. I want backup dances. Like, I want Arvind, I want my job. And they like, nah, fly's not in the budget. We just wanted you to come showcase your talent. I'm like, nah, bro. So I was really mad. So then when they told me Lil Wayne was gonna be down, I was like, okay, this is something I could use, actually. One of the drummers in the band told me, the dude, tell me Lil Wayne gonna be there. You need to go perform to him. And I'm like, boom. Like, something just sparked. I'm like, came out of beats. Lil Wayne gonna be there. I'm gonna merc it. The press gonna be crazy for it. And it did what I thought it was gonna do, for sure.
[00:12:57] Speaker B: How did you feel when you seen him rapping your lyrics, though? Like, that's Lil Wayne when he sent.
[00:13:03] Speaker A: That's one of her ghosts, bro.
[00:13:05] Speaker C: As it should be. When he sent the track back.
So, first of all, he just said my name. And I ain't even get through the rest of the train. I'm screaming, running up the house. I'm like, why? We better be rich?
I was like, oh, my God.
It was crazy, bro. But it was crazy. Cause a lot of people, a lot of rappers don't stand on their word. They'll be like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna get with you, little. Shake your hand. I'm out. And that happened to me so many times. So when he sent it, I barely wanted to listen to it. Cause I ain't never wanted to get old. You know what I'm saying? It was crazy.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: How did the whole song even come about?
[00:13:36] Speaker C: Well, after we won the championship, this was like 2020 ₩2. The championship. He went on ESPN.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: Congrats.
[00:13:43] Speaker C: Thank you. Sue Bird was like, when you gonna do a song with Flaja? Like, what's up? So Sue Bird, shout out, sue. She threw me the alley. And he said it on ESPN. So he really could never relit Renee. Cause then after he said it, I posted it. Me and Lil Wayne got a song coming out soon. Y'all not even knowing. Then he end up hitting me. I sent him the verse, you know what I'm saying? I sent him my verse and left him open to destroy. And he destroyed it, bro. And it was history since then. It took a little time, you know. I had to expedite the process, but it was great.
[00:14:12] Speaker B: Was he already on your bucket list of artists that you want to work with?
[00:14:15] Speaker C: Yeah, but it's one of them things. Like, you on my bucket list. But, like, yeah, I'm be like. I'm probably like. When I get a. When I get established, you know what I'm saying? I get drop an album, they go up and go platinum or something like that. Then I get. But on my first ep, I could never thought of that.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: That's insane.
[00:14:29] Speaker C: Crazy, crazy.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: That's insane just to be co signed by so many grapes, though. Lil Wayne, Wyclef, JD.
[00:14:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: Who else that we haven't talked about yet?
[00:14:39] Speaker C: That's it.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: What, somebody that surprised you, that tapped in with your music?
[00:14:44] Speaker C: Surprised me. Teddy Riley.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: Teddy Riley.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: Teddy Riley.
[00:14:47] Speaker C: Yeah. He dm'd me like, you know, you cold. Like, you amazing. What you doing? I was like, bro, hold up. Like the Ted, like this that guy. You know what I'm saying? That was when I knew, like, okay, like this series, like, you know what I'm saying? That was crazy. He dm me out of nowhere.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: Are you.
Are you a celebrity around campus.
[00:15:09] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:15:10] Speaker A: Don't do that.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: For real? Hold on.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: Don't do that.
I don't know.
[00:15:16] Speaker C: I ain't been back to campus yet, but I don't like that. I like to go to class, my bonnet on and my hoodie on. So I don't period. You know what I'm saying? I'm real regular. You know what I'm saying? So they don't really treat me too crazy, you know? I take pictures on campus with people, but most of my classes not on, like, they online. And then the one that I do got it. Just be real chill. So.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: So when you. So have you ever had a fan. Not a fan, but have you ever had an experience on campus where people. It was, like. It was kind of a lot. Yeah, it was just, like, not in class. Well, maybe in class, but.
[00:15:48] Speaker C: No, no, it just, like, when it got to a point where people started knowing, I used to stay in the dorms, and people started, like, knowing, like, I was in the dorms, and it just got kind of weird, kind of scary, a little sketchy. And then, like, fans, like, super fans, they at least, like, start following me and stuff like that. And I was like. It was all out of good. It was. It wasn't out of no bad nature, but it was, like, the same time. It's like a security, so. But I, like, I ain't been to campus ever since things done went crazy, so we gonna see, but.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Oh, no, we gonna see.
[00:16:15] Speaker C: Yeah, we gonna see.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: We gonna see.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: Graduation. Gonna be cracking graduation.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Speaking of campus, congrats on the championship, by the way. Thank you.
I saw here, I was looking at. I was going over some. I was going on a sports rabbit hole, right?
[00:16:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:32] Speaker A: And first of all, you play a lot of minutes.
[00:16:35] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: Okay. Cardio. Because, first of all, what's your regimen? I'm fat. But, like, your regimen, she agreed with you.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Honey. Do I look fat in this?
[00:16:54] Speaker A: No, but I'm just saying, like, as far as your regimen, being able to play that long, because a lot of artists, especially rappers, they do helicardio in order to have stage stamina.
[00:17:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:03] Speaker A: And shot. To Missy. To Missy. Missy. Ellie, have been going crazy on tour, but I don't want to get distracted. But the way your regimen is, is there a certain thing that you do to keep up that energy? Keep your energy up. Cardio.
[00:17:19] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I've always just been in great shape. I'm skinny. I'm sticking bones. So I've always just been running you know what I'm saying? But, like, what helped me last season, I think I started juicing and drinking, like, green juice, right? I started doing, like, pineapple, kale, spinach, green apple, ginger, and I started drinking, like, three cups a day. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I think that really helped me recover quicker, help my bones and my body. Cause you don't play a long season, and I don't barely get out the game.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: So, you know, I know you averaging 30, 33 minutes. 30 minutes. About 30 minutes a game, which is.
[00:17:50] Speaker C: Yeah, that's crazy. So I did, like, three quarters. So. So, you know. You know, I just had to learn to really take care of my body more. That's it. Like, you. If you are athlete, you just athlete. Like, you know, I'm saying things like that. Come. But I had to learn the after effects of, like, okay, I run miles every day. So I'm like, yeah, you gonna run these mouths every day, but you still.
[00:18:06] Speaker A: Gotta replace mouse isn't plural.
[00:18:08] Speaker C: Yeah, at least, like, two.
[00:18:10] Speaker A: Oh, okay. That's a couple.
[00:18:11] Speaker C: I at least run two. And then, like, on a good day, I probably run four.
Okay, on a good day when last.
[00:18:19] Speaker A: Time you ran 4 miles?
[00:18:20] Speaker B: I don't even remember the last time I ran.
[00:18:25] Speaker C: Bro. Like, once you start, you can't stop.
[00:18:27] Speaker A: No, I stopped. Cause I need to breathe. No, fuck you talking about once you.
[00:18:34] Speaker C: Start, like, running, like. And I try to get my mom and everybody on it, like. You know what I'm saying? Cause, like.
[00:18:40] Speaker B: What do you eat on a day to day basis?
[00:18:42] Speaker C: Chipotle. Well, I'm on kava now.
I'm a kava girl now. I like a lot of rice, beans, meat. Like, I like stuff like that.
[00:18:51] Speaker B: You ever warmed up a chipotle bowl in the microwave, bro?
[00:18:54] Speaker C: Why is this a conversation? Yes, I just seen it on twitter.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: I just seen lotto tweet it.
[00:18:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Why is this a conversation? Yes, of course.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: Warming up a bowl is crazy.
[00:19:01] Speaker C: I know, but, like, if I got a little bit left in that bowl, I'm about to go up, I don't care.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: You can't warm it up.
[00:19:10] Speaker C: I eat it both ways. I ain't gonna count it. Depends on how hungry. I'm out.
[00:19:16] Speaker B: I don't want my cheese melted. Then it's a sauce. First of all, she's a college.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: She go down in college.
[00:19:22] Speaker C: Depending on how much you spend on that bowl, depending on how much you spend on that bowl, that thing can heat up. And I like triple steak, so that's a $30 steak? Yeah. That's $30 bowl.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: You mean $30 Chipotle bowls every day, too.
[00:19:35] Speaker C: I'm gonna be mad.
I'm gonna be mad.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: I'm not gonna hit boa.
[00:19:40] Speaker C: No, for real.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: $30 chipotle bowls is. Wow.
[00:19:45] Speaker C: I know.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: That's crazy work.
[00:19:46] Speaker C: It's not even funny for.
[00:19:47] Speaker B: I want the extra fungus in there.
[00:19:51] Speaker C: No, my mx be feeling.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: Speaking of which, I know you happy about it, but do you have any thoughts about college athletes now being able to get paid?
[00:19:58] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Because this has not been a thing in my generation. That wasn't a thing. It was frowned upon. People were getting expelled. All kind of shit.
[00:20:05] Speaker C: Yeah. No, it's been a long time coming. If y'all knew how much work we do, y'all be like, oh, yeah, get them kids. They just do. I mean, like, we do a lot. We. I mean, of course we get free education, but, like, if a school is making billions of dollars.
[00:20:18] Speaker A: Billions. With a b.
[00:20:19] Speaker C: With a b, not an m. Facts. Billions of dollars. The people who are making these schools as money should definitely be compensated. They're not going to watch the mascots walk on the field. No, they watching. They come to watch athletes. They spending money. Cause they love athletes. You know what I'm saying?
[00:20:33] Speaker A: And the college sports. College sports is one of the highest gross in it.
[00:20:37] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:20:37] Speaker A: And it's like, I didn't know that before all of, like, I was advocating for college athletes to get paid. One of my cousins played. But it wasn't as big of a hot topic as it is in recent years, because it was just like the white people would just be like, no.
[00:20:51] Speaker C: Yeah. They just like, what you gonna do? And it's crazy to see the shift now. Kids getting like, millions of dollars just to go transfer to another school. So I love it. I love everybody get their bag. I tell them, bro, these four years ain't gonna last long. You gonna kill yourself enslaved like a dog for these programs. You better make sure you use every resource possible. That's why with my music and all of this, if I wanna do something, figure it out. Like, I don't take no for an answer. Cause they got it.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: How do you think it's gonna affect recruitment, though?
[00:21:21] Speaker C: It's gonna affect recruitment a lot. But that's gotta be on the parents to kind of see the bigger vision. Like, sometimes right now, money ain't all good, you know? And if the parents understand that, they'll be okay. But you could I definitely, in the future, see, you know, kids getting in bad situations because they're just not educated, you know what I'm saying? And so that's why it's important for college students like me and other people to utilize and share that information that we know. You know what I'm saying? I always talk to kids in high school about nil and about building they brand, but also being smart about the money and stuff like that.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: I've been seeing a lot of people also doing the HBCU route, too, which is becoming more popular, especially with everything going on.
[00:22:01] Speaker C: Right, right.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: So that's also an option.
[00:22:03] Speaker C: Yeah, no, yeah, I definitely, for my situation, HBCU wouldn't have made sense. But, you know, I do believe that it's just athletes going to HBCus and shedding that light there is important. But, you know, everybody always be coming for, like, me, especially. They become like, you always promote LSU, but you not promote HBCUs. But, like, you know, like, that's something that I would love to do and be a part of, and it's something that I need to be more involved in, for sure. But it's like, the resources that I need in order to play at the high level, highest level hbCus, they don't. You know what I'm saying?
[00:22:39] Speaker A: I 100% get it.
[00:22:40] Speaker C: But I definitely. I do believe that there needs to be.
[00:22:43] Speaker A: I don't believe in that narrative that just because it's an HBCU, you supposed.
[00:22:46] Speaker C: To go, yeah, yeah. That's a crazy narrative to me.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:49] Speaker C: If you don't do, you're the top athlete. You want to be at the top facilities. You want to be at the top. The top chance to go to the drive and get paid. Like, it got to be, you know, a little bit more support there.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: So I worked at Staples center for a long time, and I've worked Sparks games, and I worked, oh, crypto. Crypto.
I work Sparks games. I work Laker games and Clipper games. It's a huge difference. Now, this was probably, like, 2014, 2015.
[00:23:16] Speaker C: When I worked there.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: So I know now, though, there's a lot of hype around the WNBA, and we've known there's been a conversation for years about the pay gap between the NBA and the WNBA. But with all this hype, do you see that payrol gap closing for contracts with the WNBA and NBA?
[00:23:34] Speaker C: It ain't gonna close that much. Like, I don't think, like, not in 50 years. We'll see some type of, you know what I'm saying? I'm hopefully in the next 50 years, when girls getting drafted, they getting paid much more than we ever gonna get paid. But I think that it's gonna be like, you know, at the same time, it's business and it's investment, and it's a new. You get eyes on the new league. You gotta think the NBA been. How long the NBA been, like, forever since Bill Russell and theme was playing like they didn't even have tv. So it's gonna take time, you know what I'm saying? For the league to really become legitimate and have. But I don't think that is far off. I think that it can happen. But to think that the WNBA just gonna have one hot season, and then, boom, everybody get paid millions of dollars ain't gonna work like that.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Well, no, it's about attendance.
[00:24:18] Speaker C: It's about attendance, sales, media rights, everything.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:22] Speaker C: And they just signed a new deal for about 2.2 billion. You know what I'm saying? So that's gonna help, but it's gonna take time.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: That's all I. I did like to see. I did like the incorporation of WNBA in two k. Yeah, I like that.
[00:24:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:35] Speaker A: And also, I meant to say this earlier. Four is my favorite number.
[00:24:38] Speaker C: Oh, nice.
[00:24:40] Speaker A: Every two K character I ever created is number four. So I need those residuals for that.
But we're speaking about the WNBA. Do you have thoughts on the lowering the rim conversation? Is that something, bro?
[00:24:52] Speaker C: What? No, that's stupid. I don't think that's a. That ain't really a. That's a real thing.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: I think it's a real thing.
I got. I'm be honest with you. I got killed for saying that. I think it would probably be a good idea, and I didn't realize it was that big of a deal, that I shouldn't have said that, but I thought it was a good idea.
[00:25:10] Speaker C: They gonna kill you on Instagram? Yeah, it's just like. It's.
I don't know. It's just standard, like. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what that. Why you say it's a good idea.
[00:25:21] Speaker A: Because I think it would.
So there's this meme where the conversation came. There's a meme of. I think it was Caitlyn Clarke doing a layup, and it was like. It was like Kaylin Clark dunks on so and so. And it was funny as hell.
[00:25:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: And so people were, like, making fun of it and shit like that.
[00:25:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:40] Speaker A: And that's always, like, the jokes on the. On the.
[00:25:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Athletics is like, oh, she dunks. But it'd be a layup or something, right? So I'm like, man, I want to see her. I want to see these women. Right? Really give it to. Really give it to these people who be talking shit.
[00:25:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: And so that's kind of where my thought was.
[00:25:56] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't have. This is. I think that just be the trolls. The trolls on Instagram be funny. That's, like, the most funniest thing about women's basketball growing. You can still see it's like, men that be hating, but, like, it's like, you just know, like, I be trying to tell people, like, these WNBA players, like, these real professionals, like, if some average person went out there, like, they would get obliterated. You know what I'm saying?
[00:26:19] Speaker A: Like, I don't want no smoke with you.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: I know I get smoked. I used to, like I said when I worked at the arena, you know.
[00:26:26] Speaker C: How to see how serious it is.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: How they pull fans out.
You will win $10,000 if you hit that basket. And I used to be watching, like, there was no way that I would be able to make that basket.
[00:26:37] Speaker C: Nah, bro, it's serious.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: Have you thought about who you wanted to play for professionally?
[00:26:41] Speaker C: I definitely want to go in a city where I could be marketed well, like a New York, La. I would love to stay home in Atlanta, but, you know, any place where they really go, I might be able to have, like, a big market. Like, I feel like that's what I. My career and my journey and where I'm at. Like, you know what I'm saying? Entails, like, you know what I'm saying? That's what I need. So it's not really more so about.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Well, you can still do music.
[00:27:04] Speaker C: Yeah. Right. It's more so about the fit. It's gonna be fit for me. You know what I'm saying?
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Oh. As far as a team, or are.
[00:27:10] Speaker C: You talking about the city, city, team, all of that. Like. But most importantly, team, you wanna go my music. Anywhere but somewhere where I can go make an impact. I ain't trying to come just.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Well, we love you out here, so.
[00:27:21] Speaker C: I love it out here.
[00:27:22] Speaker B: Come to LA.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: Well, you know, hold on, though. You know, Shaq went to LSU.
[00:27:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:28] Speaker A: He ended up in purple and gold.
[00:27:30] Speaker C: I know, right? You never know.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: Just throwing that out there.
Universe, do your thing.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: How do you juggle school? Basketball, and being a rapper, man, it's hard. Are your grades good?
[00:27:44] Speaker C: Yes.
I ain't gonna sit here, act like I'm a valedictorian.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Where you at?
[00:27:49] Speaker C: My grades good. My grades good.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: Point. What?
[00:27:58] Speaker C: I gotta go check.
But not what I really take is, like, my business class is, like, serious. Like, I really love business. I'm studying. I'm getting my minor, entrepreneurship, and so I like to take classes that I'm excited about. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like, oh, my God. I took accounting.
I was excited to take accounting. You know I'm saying? So I did pretty good. But I. If you put me, like, in a science class, I'm be looking at a teacher like this. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like in college, I want to take courses where I'm going to take in life.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Did you take statistics?
[00:28:31] Speaker C: I took statistics. Statistics was cool. Cool.
[00:28:34] Speaker B: Like, what?
[00:28:35] Speaker C: I think I got a B. A. Statistics.
[00:28:37] Speaker A: That shit whooped your ass.
[00:28:38] Speaker C: What? My ass? But we got tutors, and we got people that really help us. You know what I'm saying? I use all my resources.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: Statistics fucked me up, Boyden.
[00:28:46] Speaker C: Yes. It's a saint.
[00:28:47] Speaker B: Do your professors ever give you special treatment?
[00:28:49] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:28:51] Speaker A: I thank you for admitting that. People act like that's, like, not a problem.
[00:28:54] Speaker C: I'm an athlete. It's true. I could hit my teacher and be like, miss, professor, please. I had practice, and, you know, I didn't have time. I mean, because it's real. Like, we not. We don't have the same schedule as regular, regular students. If you're a regular student, right, you better get up, go to class, and then handle your business. But, like, we got so many other factors. Like, I might have weights. I might got a travel day. I might got this. So I gotta hit my professor, and they usually flexible. Some. Some professors, don't get me wrong.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: They don't give a.
[00:29:19] Speaker C: They don't care.
[00:29:20] Speaker A: But, like, if you and you out here doing. You doing a rap shit, yeah.
[00:29:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I know.
I told my professor I need an extension. He's like, I see your rap. You ain't just getting no extensions just cause you a rapper. But now they usually, they usually be cool athletes.
[00:29:35] Speaker A: Is that the reason for best of both worlds?
[00:29:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:29:39] Speaker C: I wanted a, I wanted a. A title that was just like, like a, uh. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, one have one of those moments. And so when you hear the title, you kind of think, like, you know, music, basketball, if you know my story, you kind of just wrap everything up.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: I did really, like, I really enjoy legendary flows, but, like I said, perfect timing was my shit.
[00:29:59] Speaker C: That's, like, everybody's favorite song.
[00:30:01] Speaker A: Really?
[00:30:01] Speaker C: Yeah. Everybody's like, everybody, like, I love the whole album. I even love the song Wayne, but perfect timing. That's the one.
[00:30:06] Speaker A: What do you think it is about that song?
[00:30:08] Speaker C: I think it's the melody or the hook. Like, I think it's that. And then I think that it's just the realness of the verses. Like, what I was saying, every yell, and you could tell that I really meant everything that I was saying. And it's just something that everybody can relate to. Everybody can relate to being more disciplined. Everybody can relate to being more consistent. Everybody can relate to chasing a dreams, and that's what I do on a daily basis. You know what I'm saying? So, I think that song is really motivated people. I was just talking to my uncle G. I was like, bro, I make songs for people who go on to do something in life. That's who I make music for, for people like, go get us. You know what I'm saying?
[00:30:43] Speaker A: I like that.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: Of the athlete rappers. Is there anybody you want to do a song with, of the athlete rappers?
[00:30:49] Speaker C: Nah. Cause I don't even want to be in that conversation where it's like, no, no.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: Oh, I done put it together. A whole cipher that I want to see.
[00:30:56] Speaker C: Oh, lord. That wouldn't even be fair.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: Honestly.
[00:30:59] Speaker C: That's not even fair. That's not fair.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: Cause it's some talent in Damian Lillard. Iman.
[00:31:06] Speaker C: That's not fair, guys.
[00:31:07] Speaker B: No way, bro.
[00:31:10] Speaker C: I do this for a living. Like, this how I pay my bills.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: She talking about, like, she, like, really rapping it.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: Like, okay, I get what you.
[00:31:18] Speaker C: I'm doing. Like, this ain't no. I got a hundred million dollar NBA contract if I don't rap no like, this. This is my $100 million contract. You know what I'm saying? 100 million ain't come yet, but it will.
That's why I don't even like to put myself in that conversation. Everybody say, so, who you think is the best basketball rapper? I say, me like.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Cause you are, though.
[00:31:38] Speaker C: Nobody, like, nobody taking it as serious as I am. Nobody's trying to win a Grammy and win a national championship. Nobody. Like, I want to be. I want to have a platinum record. I want to be getting drafted. Like, I want to be playing in a WNBA game in the daytime, performing at that same arena at night. That's my goal. Like, that's how big I want to take it. So when you see my visionary, you can't compare me to a dame. You can't compare me to a Shaq. Like, just can't. Because that's what they did. I'm not trying to do that. I'm trying to take it somewhere, do something iconic, you know, I feel that.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: Did you have that dream, like, as a. As a child? Did you know that you would be here today?
[00:32:12] Speaker C: No.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: What was the goal as a kid? Just dream job.
[00:32:16] Speaker C: My dream.
I knew I was gonna be here. I knew I was gonna be here in this way. You know what I'm saying? My dream was just to make music and I continue my father's legacy. That's all I wanted to do when I was younger. All I wanted to do. And I never even thought about basketball until high school, for real. I was always playing it. But I was in LA fitness with the guys every day, just hooping. I ain't started training until like my 10th grade year, so I was late playing catch up, like. And then I realized, like, I could be the best in this basketball stuff. And I went to become McDonald all american and stuff like that. And I just worked my behind off. But I never knew it was gonna happen like this, but I always knew I was gonna be something special because I had a passion behind it.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Have you ever worked a regular job?
[00:32:55] Speaker C: I doordash one time and it was crazy, cuz it was at a time where I was kind of known, right? And I ain't even. I didn't even tell my mom this, but I had used her card, I signed up and everything. Cause after the rap game, like, you know, you on the kids shows and everything, like, you start, you be doing little shows, little kid shows, but then once you not hot no more, you ain't hot no more. Like that happened in real life. So of course it would happen to me as a kid artist. And I just kept asking my mom for money, like, you know what I'm saying? She's still working. I'm sick of asking her for money. So I'm doordashing. I literally got like a ski mask on, hat on. So nobody know who I am. Cause people still used to know who I was. Like, oh, you fly Jay from the rap game. So I was like, bro, these folk cannot see me delivering crumble cookie. And so, yeah, and those my hot spots. I used to go to like, crumble all the time. I used to be like, just delivering food. That's crazy. I never talked about that before.
[00:33:43] Speaker B: What was your picture?
[00:33:44] Speaker C: My mom face.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: You use your mom's face?
[00:33:47] Speaker C: Yeah, but I was a dasher. This how you know I ain't lying. I still got an app on my phone.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: Oh, real nigga.
[00:33:56] Speaker A: You got the. With the older the doordash app, the dasher app for the. For the employee.
[00:34:02] Speaker C: I was a dasher. Yeah. So they got my mama name on it.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: You said you only did it one time, or you just mean like, I did it?
[00:34:08] Speaker C: No, I had did it. I did a lot. I did it for, like, two weeks, cuz. I. What happened was I didn't have a car yet, and so I was trying to pay my way to go to get, like, to go to training sim. And so I was like, probably to get my money out real quick. Sick asking my mom for money, bro. Like, you know, saying my mom got kids, you know, and I didn't want to go do nothing bad or illegal. So I was like, this is the best way I know how to make some money. That's how I say, right? If you broke, bro, it's your fault, cuz. If I had to figure it out in high school, go, go get. Go get a phone. I had got me a little cheap rental car. I was good.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: Like, do you know what you was making, man?
You felt mad about it.
[00:34:45] Speaker C: This is why I tip. This is why I tip now. Cause I know the struggle. Like, when folks used to tip good, I used to be getting, like, probably like $15 on, like, a good ride. You know what I'm saying?
[00:34:54] Speaker A: Oh, on one order.
[00:34:54] Speaker C: On one order. So I'm talking about 15 times, ten rides, I'm gonna be straight. I can pay for training. Like, it's over with. And that's how I really did it.
[00:35:02] Speaker A: Like, why you only do it for two weeks? People start recognizing you, too?
[00:35:05] Speaker C: No, it just got old. I was like, I can't do no job. I can't do. I can't. Uh uh.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: How you gonna talk all that high power hustler shit and they be like, yeah, I can't do this.
[00:35:12] Speaker C: Yeah. Cause it was like. It was like, yeah. I was like, I gotta figure something out. I was like, this ain't gonna work. But then money started just coming in.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: So did you get any complaints?
[00:35:20] Speaker C: Oh, baby, no. I was an excellent driver, and I made sure I got there fast. Food was good. Like, what you eat?
[00:35:26] Speaker A: Somebody fries?
[00:35:26] Speaker C: No, bro, that's trifling.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: I know you tip it, though, bro.
[00:35:29] Speaker C: That's trifling. I don't play about is my food, so I'm definitely not playing anybody else food, bro. But everything I try to do, I try to do it 100%. So, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
[00:35:37] Speaker A: You ain't never kept a drink.
[00:35:39] Speaker C: Never.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: Did you ever smell some food and be like, well, I gotta go back and get this.
[00:35:42] Speaker C: I crumble cookie. That's when I started my crumble cookie. And for a minute, when I was dashing, that's all people was ordering, was crumble.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:49] Speaker C: I dropped it off to the wrong house, though. I had to go all the way back. That was pretty much it.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:35:54] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: You know what? That's so dope that a lot of people got that story, man.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: King, the man had that same story.
[00:36:01] Speaker C: For real?
[00:36:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: A lot of people don't. They think it's all, like, in the public. They think it's all good.
[00:36:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: And they don't know these types of stories. That's why it's not even just for our show. But, like, in general, you should share these, because these little girls and little boys, they need to know that.
[00:36:15] Speaker C: Yeah, that's why. I think that's why social media's so lame. Cause you looking at somebody highlight. Of course I'm gonna show you my dunk. I'm not gonna show you my air ball. You know what I'm saying?
[00:36:24] Speaker A: Wait, which dunk I'm fucking with?
[00:36:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Shut up, bro.
Of course I'm gonna show you money.
[00:36:30] Speaker B: That was a bar, though.
[00:36:32] Speaker C: Of course I'm gonna show you my best thing. That's why I tell the kids, like, don't take that too serious.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: But I think that's one of the benefits of even, like, being a fan of yours, is that you're so transparent.
[00:36:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: And you share your story and you letting people know this is what I'm dealing with, you know? Cause a lot of people, they feel like, well, I'm one of those people for sure. You know, you look at what everybody else got going on, and you like.
[00:36:51] Speaker C: Damn, you look like you way off track. He ain't even on track. He ain't off track.
[00:36:55] Speaker B: Sway was just telling us that he was broke before he got his first MTV deal. You never know that. You know, people have these struggles, and they go through like that, and I.
[00:37:05] Speaker C: Think they just make you more real, like. You know what I'm saying? People know that, like, and I ain't ashamed. Like, I really. My story is great. Like, my mama tell her story. Like, I be telling my mom, I'd be having to tell her, like, mom, like, you got to tell your story. But you know how many moms you can inspire? Like, mom. Like, my mom have been managing me since I was seven years old. She still managed me, broker all my nil deals, negotiating with all these.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: Really?
[00:37:26] Speaker C: People? Yes. I don't have an agent. I have my mom.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:37:29] Speaker C: I'm gonna do everything. So. So I want her to tell her story with no cut on it. Like, tell these people what you've been through. Cause that really make you a warrior. For real. If they knew.
[00:37:38] Speaker A: Hey, you know what? I fucked with you.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: Impactful.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: I got one more thing I wanna ask you. Is, what's worse from your perspective? Is it rap critique or sports critique?
[00:37:51] Speaker C: Sports critique.
[00:37:53] Speaker A: It's worse than rap critique.
[00:37:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Because, I mean, I don't think I got to the point in rap where my music has been, like, critique, critique. Like, if somebody don't really like my song, they really be just trying to control, like, you feel me?
[00:38:03] Speaker A: Like, so you saying everybody gotta like your shit?
[00:38:05] Speaker C: No, I know it ain't gonna be for everybody, but I ain't. When I get comments like, ah, this ain't for me, sometimes it just ain't for you. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know, I can't please everybody. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's why the grocery store got all type of departments. But, like, she was borrowing shit up.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: Barring shit up.
[00:38:20] Speaker C: But what I. You know, usually they be trolling my shit hard. I ain't gonna count.
You don't like my job, you kind of hate a little bit of. It's something you can liking them, but. Nah, sports. Cause it's like, you know, like, it's measurable. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Numbers. You know what I'm saying? It's measurable. And music is more so opinionated. Everybody ain't gonna like it. But, like, if you had a trash.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: Game, like, everybody could see you feel me?
It's on the board.
[00:38:48] Speaker C: I had a problem with that last year. Just, like, going on Twitter, like my game, you know, saying, you search your name. No, I would. I would just go look on Twitter.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Like, your mentions.
[00:38:59] Speaker C: Yeah, they'll tap me in my mentions and all. I have a bad game. They'd be like a fly. J must be working on her mixtape. She ain't here today.
You know, Sam, but not like it's sports critique for show. But now I'm more like, I don't really care. So we gonna see this season. I'll let you know. We come.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: Do you still. Do you let comments get. Get to you? Nah, it'd be like 30, 30,000 good comments and make one comment, like, yeah.
[00:39:23] Speaker C: And it'd be like that. I respond sometimes now, though, I ain't gonna count sometimes. People just be loud and wrong and then having other loud and wrong followers. I be having to stop a motherfucker. Yeah.
[00:39:32] Speaker A: What's the clap back look like?
[00:39:34] Speaker C: I'm nice. Nasty with it, like.
[00:39:36] Speaker A: So you're passive aggressive?
[00:39:37] Speaker C: Yes, and I'm dedicated. Cause I go, look at your profile. Go down. I'm going down. The media, what your kids look like and everything. Don't do the same thing. Yeah, don't play with me. Cause I will put you out there.
You know, like, one. Dude, I gotta tell y'all, I was super petty. I had to delete the video, though. Cause my mom said, delete it. But this dude was talking in my trash. He was like, rap ain't for everybody.
I went to his profile. I see he played basketball in the middle of nowhere. I was like, bruh, I want their stats. This man averaged 0.2 points per game.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: You replied with the stats.
[00:40:09] Speaker C: I made the whole video and everything. I had to take it down, though.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: Oh, you had a whole clap back video?
[00:40:13] Speaker C: What? I was on the air. I was in the airport. I had nothing but time on my hand that day.
She was on cap. She was on captain on capcorn, going crazy. I'm gonna show y'all the video. I'm gonna show y'all the video. I still got it. But, nah, bro, that was one time that I was super petty. I tattooed him. I said, bro, you wanna go viral today? I'm a Scorpio.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:40:33] Speaker C: I'll let stuff go.
[00:40:34] Speaker B: November.
[00:40:35] Speaker C: November 3.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: November. Scorpios is petty.
[00:40:37] Speaker C: Yeah. Very much so. I take pride in that.
Organized petty.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: I wanna stay on your good side, right?
[00:40:43] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:40:45] Speaker B: By the time this drop, I'll believe that you got the Lil Wayne video dropping, right?
[00:40:48] Speaker C: Yep, yep.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:49] Speaker C: I don't know when that's gonna drop, but. Brace finish, it's done. It's in the. It's a movie, though. Terrence Michael, he.
He put that thing together. It looked like a movie, bro. It got, like, basketball scenes in it. Got coach Moki in it, of course. Wayne and all that. So it's gonna be dope.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: Do you. Do you find yourself, like, tripping out that this is your life?
[00:41:13] Speaker C: Sometimes I can't really believe it, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like, I've been having, like, fame or clout since I was little. Like, since I was on a rap game. I was twelve, like, so I've always been popular. Yeah. Even when I. Even when I was little, like, seven. Cause growing up in Savannah, I always got free stuff or people always showed me love just cause who my dad was. So now it's kind of more of a shell shot that it's on such a big level, you know what I'm saying? It's different. Cause it's like I'm really impacting people. Like little kids, they come up to me, they be crying. I'm like, damn. Like, this is different. You know what I'm saying? Like. Cause if I would meet. If I met LeBron James or if I met Kobe, like, I cried, like, for real, like, cuz I don't believe in them so much and looked up to them. So the fact that people have that type of investment in me, that's the most shocking part I'm saying. They really look up to me now.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: I know. I know that you. Are you always working but are we gonna go another year before we get another project or.
[00:42:05] Speaker C: Oh, no, I'm on a consistency trail right now.
That's what I'm out here in LA doing right now. Working on a deluxe for best.
[00:42:12] Speaker B: Dropping back to back.
[00:42:13] Speaker C: I'm keep dropping young boy styles.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: Well, I know you about to go back to, you know, season.
[00:42:19] Speaker C: So when I be straight locked in, I'll be telling them like, y'all got me for the summer. Cuz when I'm in. When I'm in basketball mode, you can't really get me. Like, they can't contact me. I don't answer my phone Monday through Friday because I'm always working. So on the weekends I record. But my label kind of got it set up now to where, like, they just gonna bring everything to me. Like cameraman, my engineer built a studio in my house, all of that. So now it's gonna be more so just pushing it. But I did so much. I got so much music that it's just. It's ready to go.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: Can you give us any exclusive, any features that ain't out yet?
[00:42:51] Speaker C: Feature that ain't out yet? I literally just hit black and we got like, this r and B joint that we gonna go crazy on. I literally just hit him the other day. It's gone. It's.
[00:43:01] Speaker A: I was gonna ask you about that because on was it 04:00 a.m. i think you was doing like, is singing. Is that. Do you plan on doing like a project?
[00:43:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I did a little r and B ep.
[00:43:11] Speaker A: No, I'm talking about, like, do you plan on doing another one?
[00:43:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, I did a little r and b ep called for the Lovers. A lot of people love that when that was just like, just something just to test the waters. But my singing has got much better. My beat selection has gotten much better. And I don't really call it r and B. I call, like, flaw and be. That's, like, my new thing for it because it ain't. It's not like singing singing. It's still rappy.
[00:43:33] Speaker B: So it's like it's a play on your name.
[00:43:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
One of my fans came up with.
[00:43:37] Speaker B: So many bars just out of this interview, like, nah.
[00:43:42] Speaker A: Well, look, I appreciate you got something else.
[00:43:44] Speaker B: Have you worked with anybody out here, any LA artist since you been here?
[00:43:49] Speaker C: Nah, I haven't worked with anybody. For real. I be real selective on who I work with.
Feel like music is energy.
[00:43:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:56] Speaker C: And, you know, saying music is energy. Words are powerful. And I only want to make music with people with, like, genuine who love music. I ain't trying to work with no rappers who just like to rap for a chick. That ain't what I'm interested in. Like, I like to meet the connoisseurs. Like, I really like a hip hop head. Like, I know the history of hip hop. I could give you all the facts, like, so if people don't really have that love for it and stuff like that, I don't really try to vibe with it.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: Oh, you in for a rude awakening.
[00:44:19] Speaker C: I know. That's why I don't do features.
[00:44:23] Speaker A: These people ain't got no respect, not for the craft.
[00:44:26] Speaker C: They love the instagram. They like the followers. But I love the music, and that's why I think music is such a terrible place right now. Cause we got less of that. So I've been trying to work with people who got that.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: Well, thank you for pulling up on this.
[00:44:38] Speaker A: I'm so impressed. I'm be honest with you, I really didn't like, not with your ability, but just, you are who you are as a person. I was looking forward to getting to know you, but I appreciate you for coming through.
[00:44:49] Speaker C: Facts.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: Well, we appreciate you for coming through.
[00:44:52] Speaker B: Oh, one more, one more, one more. Just for the fun. If you had to pick one basketball or rap?
[00:44:59] Speaker A: Oh, God.
[00:45:02] Speaker C: If I had to pick one basketball, rap, I'd be dodging this question so much. But then what I like to say, though, music, for me, is, like something I could do when I'm 80 years old. You know what I'm saying? Music is something that's gonna be, like, one day, the ball gonna stop bouncing. You know what I'm saying? I tell people that all the time, and even, like, injuries or anything happens. So music is something that you can.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: Do that in a wheelchair?
[00:45:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I can do. I can get anything knocking wood. Anything can happen to me on a basketball court. And I can still rely on music. So I don't know. I guess music gonna be my longer term. Cause I'll be able to do it for a long time. But I don't know. Basketball is so pressured to me because I know I can't. I know one day I'm not gonna be able to dribble. I know one day my legs is not gonna let me to run the same way. So basketball more sacred to me because I know I'm running out of time. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: That's a good answer, though. You didn't dodge it.
[00:45:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:53] Speaker C: Low key. Still ain't an answer.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: She got an answer in her mind.
Thank you so much.
[00:46:01] Speaker C: Thank you for having me.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: I look forward to having you back.
[00:46:03] Speaker C: Facts. Facts.
[00:46:04] Speaker A: When you drop that feature that you got in the tuck with Jay Z. Yeah. So you see how she said, yeah, manifestation.
[00:46:15] Speaker C: For real. I would do whatever you talking about. That would. I win.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: No. Thank you, though.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: They had a couple of floors up.
[00:46:20] Speaker A: Facts down.
[00:46:21] Speaker B: Oh, down.
[00:46:23] Speaker A: Flaw j, effective immediately.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:46:26] Speaker C: Thank you. Thank you for having me. Effective immediately. Boom.
