RJmrLA Sits Down w/ DJ Hed | Effective Immediately ❗️

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's DJ head, effective immediately. We out here with my brother, Mister La, himself, RJ. Mister La, before we get started, like I want to, let's address the elephant that's outside right now. Where are we at right now, RJ? [00:00:21] Speaker B: In front of the mural. [00:00:22] Speaker A: In front of the mural. [00:00:23] Speaker B: The big La mural, man. You know. You know shit. It's an honor, man. You know what I'm saying? [00:00:33] Speaker A: The city love you. [00:00:34] Speaker B: City love me. You know? City love me. And I love the city back, you know, I put it on my back and I wear shit just like you, you know what I'm saying? [00:00:41] Speaker A: Facts. [00:00:41] Speaker B: With honors. [00:00:42] Speaker A: With honors, you feel me? [00:00:44] Speaker B: When nobody repping it, we gonna rep it, right. You feel me? [00:00:49] Speaker A: No matter what, the right way. [00:00:50] Speaker B: The right way, for sure. And we gonna take it all around the world. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Who did this mural? [00:00:55] Speaker B: A painter named Ezra. Ezra one. Ezra, underscore one is his instagram. That's his handle, but yep, he did it. [00:01:03] Speaker A: Shout out to Ezra. One got cracking. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Old me, old you, new me, new you feel me? Yeah, it's lovely. [00:01:13] Speaker A: Big L. A. Why? Why big L. A? [00:01:15] Speaker B: For this album, not only do I represent it, niggas like yourself represent it. And, you know, it's always been a movement to me. It always has been a movement. Like getting other people involved in this shit when. I mean, even way back, like, when they just wasn't even, like, rapping this shit. You feel me? Even. They wasn't even hearing nothing on the West coast. The media, the blogs, the. You know what I'm saying? Nobody was really, you know what I'm saying? Rapping. They wasn't even hearing us this shit. Now we at a level where we just putting it in your face. [00:01:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:58] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? That's really, like, what it is. Just putting it in your face. Like Big L. A, big La. You know what I'm saying? [00:02:06] Speaker A: So the title came from you just wanting to make sure that people understood what it is? [00:02:10] Speaker B: Yeah, most definitely. Me and my boy, you know, Mike Wayne. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Yep. [00:02:15] Speaker B: He was just. We just be like, you know, popping shit back and forth, and niggas was just like, nigga, big la. Nah. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Did you already have the title when you first started working on the album, or did you work on the music first? [00:02:28] Speaker B: No title. No. I mean, I always work on the music. All this music came from just a collective number of songs, feel me? That we sat there and picked, you know, picked them out. You know what I'm saying? I just worked, you know, I work all the time. Yeah. So we'll get in the studio, we'll book a studio a month or so, and we'll just go crazy, you know, and we just work, work, work. So. But the title just came from, you know, saying pretty much just popping shit. Feel me? I'm already Mister La. The fans said the street say it. So, you know, we at this level now where it's the big one, not the little one. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right. [00:03:08] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:03:10] Speaker A: No, I agree with that. [00:03:11] Speaker B: You feel me? [00:03:11] Speaker A: But then. So also, when you look at it from a perspective of the music reflects, like, the sound of the music reflects RJ. When I'm listening to the beats, when I'm listening to you rap, when I'm listening to the rhymes, as I'm listening to these things, I'm listening to it. I'm like, okay, this is like the RJ I like to hear. [00:03:32] Speaker B: I was just about to say that it's the RJ that you love. [00:03:35] Speaker A: Oh, I love this RJ. [00:03:36] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? And it's also the RJ that the city love. And I see the comments. I see. I hear the comments, I hear the chatters, you know, I hear to bring the old RJ back. I hear that. You know, so it's like that. And it's a summer vibe. So usually, like my songs, we pick the songs, like, kind of, like, based on the seasons sometimes. And we knew we was going to drop, like, projects around this time, so we just pick it from those. From the summer catalog. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Right. [00:04:05] Speaker B: You know what I mean? The summer batch. [00:04:07] Speaker A: The summer batch. [00:04:07] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:04:09] Speaker A: And the thing is, as I'm like, okay, yes, it's the RJ that I love. But I'm gonna be honest with you, this is a hungry RJ. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Most definitely. [00:04:19] Speaker A: This is. I haven't heard. I'm gonna be honest with you. I haven't heard RJ like this since Mister La. And the reason why I say that is because when you first put out Mister Laden, it was you claiming what people had already been saying to you. This is big L. A. And it's like, oh, this is going up a notch. Don't get me wrong. I love Rodney Brown Junior. That's one of my joints. That's one of my albums. On, God, another one. To me, the way I'm listening to you rap on this one, even the way you. Even the way you writing the song, your songwriting has gone to another level. I don't know if you pay attention to the way we listen to RJ's music. But the way I'm listening to it is like, you always been a great songwriter. The way you make, the way you. You always been a great songwriter. The way you put together records. But it be bars, too. I feel like what I'm hearing now is the perfect marriage of the two. What's your practice? Like? Do you do raps? Do you just record all the time and you get better? Do you feel like you better than you used to be? [00:05:26] Speaker B: I always be feeling like I get better. I always feel like I better myself because that's how I started this shit before anybody ever heard me. I was just trying to be the best. So I'm gonna get better. I do feel like I'm getting better as the years progress. But my process is just, you know, getting in there and, man, I'm a hard critic, too. And then not only that, I don't got yes men around me, right? Feel me? Like. Like, let me. Like lamb's not just gonna say, oh, that shit. Bang. Just because it banned. Just cause I'm on the song, you know what I'm saying? So I got tough critics. I got tough people around me that want to see me win as well. But me personally, I just get in there and, you know, express how I feel. You know, I just want to get better at expressing myself because I don't know. A lot of people don't know, but, like, I don't speak the best. You feel me? And sometimes I, you know, mumble a little bit, see what I'm saying? So. But I use my art to express what I can't, you know, get off. [00:06:48] Speaker A: Articulate verb, like, with your words, right? [00:06:50] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:06:51] Speaker A: So you use the rap, right? [00:06:53] Speaker B: Cause, like, I know a lot of words, right? I've been reading the dictionary, like, reading and writing the dictionary since I was, like, in elementary. But words get jammed at my head when I'm speaking. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't know. That's why I be quiet a lot. [00:07:16] Speaker A: It'll be like, what's wrong with RJ? He just quiet because my mind is. [00:07:20] Speaker B: Just going honestly, you know, so not like I'm a, you know, illiterate or anything, but it's just like, it'd be so many words, you know what I'm saying? In my head. Yeah. So it's like, you know, it's like if it's a fire in the room and there's only one exit, everybody jammed at the door. [00:07:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a fire hazard. [00:07:44] Speaker B: It's a fire hazard. You know what I'm saying? So I use my art to slow me down and articulate what I want to get off and get off. My message got you. You know what I'm saying? [00:07:54] Speaker A: Yeah. That makes sense, though, because I'm glad you brought that up, because there's a lot of people who have that, and they don't have the self awareness to know, like, oh, I don't speak that well, but I'm good at this, or I don't. Like, I can't sing. I can't dance on no level, but I can make the people dance with the music on the turntables. You know what I mean? So it's just like, I think it's about living and owning your truth. Now. [00:08:16] Speaker B: That's what I always be. That's what I always do, live my truth and be honest with myself before somebody else. Do you feel me? We come from niggas joking and bagging on your ass. Feel me? They gonna pick out everything wrong with you first, right? Feel me? So let me fix it first. You feel me? Before somebody else come in and you know what I'm saying? And hurt a nigga feeling, right? [00:08:38] Speaker A: They don't got your best interest. [00:08:39] Speaker B: They don't got your best interest, nigga. They don't want to see you down. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Now, I think what it's important to note, too, is that for much. For much of this, the second wave, I would say, of RJ, for the second wave of RJ, you've been independent. And I think that a lot of people don't. I think a lot of people don't look at that as something, because when you independent, you the label, you the artist, your manager, you the team. Like, you have to do everything yourself. And I see a lot of people glorify being independent, but it's not easy. No, it's not easy at all. Right. Can you give some game to an artist that is either independent or looking to go independent on? What keeps you motivated? How do you keep going? How do you empower the people around you to help you like those types of things? [00:09:30] Speaker B: I believe independence is being an independent artist is a great route to take. But I also feel like you have to have a proper team with. [00:09:46] Speaker A: You gotta have a team. [00:09:48] Speaker B: Artists think you could just put things on dishro kit and then just go crazy, and then your whole life will change, and you independent, and it's tight. Just because you're saying you independent. I don't think that's tight, because niggas be like, broke saying they independent. [00:10:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:10:05] Speaker B: And that's not the. It's a music business, you know, so that's never good to be, you know, like owning 100% or nothing. Like, that's not never good, but I feel like once you build your team and, you know, research a label and research the players that they have. Research the, research the workers that they have. [00:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah, the staff. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Research the staff and, you know, apply that to your team, your home team. And I feel like, you know, that way you have a good head start on the game, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, other things, it's like, you know, the good side of it is like, you know, your creativity, you know, and you owning your masters and owning your catalogs and shit like that, like, that's dope because, you know, you can, you know, leave that shit to your kids. It's like your real estate. [00:11:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:05] Speaker B: You know, you could, you can take. [00:11:06] Speaker A: It and it is like real estate. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, it's a real estate. And you could just, you know, leave it to your, to your, to your loved ones. You feel me, all your catalog and shit. But me personally, I got a great manager. You know, I speak on his nigga all the time because we kind of, we started, like, together, but when we started, he took the business and made it his own. You get. I'm saying, I don't just all day only care about the cameras. They don't care about being all in your face. That ain't just care about getting the. [00:11:45] Speaker A: Job done, the business. [00:11:46] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? The business. [00:11:47] Speaker A: You need somebody like that. [00:11:48] Speaker B: You feel me? That's why I want to on camera always, every chance I get. Shout out, lambs. Shout out, let me lambs. Because that's the business side that I don't have to always, you know, be hovering over. [00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah, you could just be the artist. [00:12:03] Speaker B: I get to just be the artist, and I'm blessed for that. [00:12:05] Speaker A: A lot of people don't have that. [00:12:06] Speaker B: A lot of people don't have that. So what I would say is, like, get you a. Get you a manager that has your best interest. Feel me? And that is studying the game. And it's, you know, one thing, one thing. One thing about it is like, n gotta be better in itself, though. Everybody around you gotta be better in themselves. You know what I'm saying? Whatever their position is, they gotta be better in themselves, and they gotta feel like, this ain't, if this failed, this is over. Everything's over. You know what I'm saying it's only one shot, for real. So I say get you a manager that has your best interest and, you know, then get you some agents and get you a lawyer. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Facts. Get you a lawyer. Ain't that the truth? [00:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah, get you a lawyer. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Get you a lawyer, for sure. [00:12:54] Speaker B: You want to get a lawyer that's, you know, hungry, too. That's gonna go get you that. You know what I'm saying? And not let shit slide. For real. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Because there's a lot of, you know, old ways and standardization terms and things like that that, you know, kept us that pigeonholed us as artists because it's built to make the label bigger, bigger, richer, richer. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:20] Speaker B: So, you know, get somebody that's not gonna go for the bullshit. Like, oh, yeah, that's. I think, like, you'll have a. You'll be signed to an artist, right? I don't think that's a bad thing. But you'll get signed to an artist and then they'll be like, here. It's a standard contract. They don't. They don't know. You feel me? They been smacked all over. You know what I'm saying? So I just say, like, read your shit. Read your contracts. Study the game. [00:13:53] Speaker A: That's good. [00:13:54] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:13:54] Speaker A: That's good advice. A lot of people don't read. They just sign and then be mad. And I've always disagreed with that. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Axe chops, man, I think it was going. Sitting down in the lawyer's office and then going page for page, page for page, page for page, nigga. [00:14:10] Speaker A: Like, what this means? [00:14:12] Speaker B: Yeah, what this means? What about this, though, right? Yeah. Chops gonna have 1000 questions for you. [00:14:18] Speaker A: See, you know, this is the thing, though. People see RJ on stage at the forum and think he not reading this contract, but they don't see the other side of it. And that's why it's important to talk about it. [00:14:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And also, too, I don't feel like. I don't feel like being a part of a label is a bad thing, too, because, like, you saying we was reading page for page before we signed the deal, facts. We knew what we was getting into, you know? So it's like, read your shit. [00:14:49] Speaker A: That's it. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Read your shit. So, like, you don't have nobody else to blame. [00:14:54] Speaker A: I love that. [00:14:55] Speaker B: You know, man, like, you don't want to be a victim. Oh, man. Fucking labels. When have you heard RJ come out and say, nigga, fuck the labels and all that shit? When? No, never. No, you're not. [00:15:07] Speaker A: But that's also, to me, that's not really. That's not real, man shit either. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Nah, you got to take. You can't. [00:15:12] Speaker A: You got to take responsibility. [00:15:13] Speaker B: Responsibility. You know I'm saying? Sometimes it'd be like you'd be mad at. You know I'm saying, you mad at the homies, but sometimes you be wrong. You feel me? But sometimes another thing, too. It's like, you not wrong, and it's nothing you can do. [00:15:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:27] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:15:28] Speaker A: Yeah. You signed. [00:15:29] Speaker B: You signed, and it's what you get. You know what I'm saying? It is okay. It's okay. Because some people benefit from it and take it in. You know what I'm saying? But it just reached a point where it wasn't bad. It wasn't no bad business with me and the labels. It was just time to spread my wings. Yeah, become your own business and become my own business. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I don't have nothing to say. [00:15:52] Speaker A: And I think also, too, like, people saw what Kendrick did with PG Lang and when it started, his own thing, and then, I mean, we gonna talk about the pop out, too. But I think that's important for people to see that, because the Internet will create a whole narrative around some shit, and it don't even. And you find yourself defending yourself for shit you didn't even say, or do. You know what I mean? That's dope. I want to dive into some of this album real quick, because I want to talk about the pop out, too, but. Okay, this is going to sound cliche. I got two favorites on the project. The first one is guns and bags, the intro. Right? Guns and bags is my favorite, but a sleeper. A sleeper on the project. Whole head with Siete, bro. I wanna say this. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Big seven. [00:16:43] Speaker A: I wanna say this publicly. RJ has been advocating for Siete forever, and I heard some of the early stuff. I'm like, nah. You know how I am. Nah, this cool. Then I was playing one of the records he dropped, I think it was two years ago. And I'm like, okay, this is what he's supposed to be sounding like. And now on this, on Big La, that whole head right there. [00:17:08] Speaker B: Yeah. This nigga head will be like. I'm like, nigga, this nigga see at their heart as fuck seen be like, oh, for real? Oh, for real? You check him out and listen to him. Like you fucking with him. Like, he was cool. It was cool. It was cool. Like, nigga, this little nigga, hard nigga. Little nigga, hard nigga, bro. Big seven nigga, bro. [00:17:28] Speaker A: Okay, so the whole head record with Siete, I know that's not necessarily a new record, so I can imagine how you got him sounding now. Give me some. Give me, like. I know y'all have conversations about song making songs, how to rap, how to come in, how to do verses, hooks, whatever. What I'm hearing where I'm like, I already told you what I'm hearing from you right now is a different RJ than what I heard the last couple of years. What I'm hearing from Siete is different than what I've heard in three, four years ago. Right. So what are these conversations like in the studio? Like you said, y'all hold each other accountable. Y'all tell each other the truth. But what are some of these conversations like in the studio? [00:18:09] Speaker B: He. Me and him in the studio, like, we sharpen each other's tools. He teach me a lot. [00:18:21] Speaker A: Really? [00:18:21] Speaker B: Yeah. He grew up on me, so he makes me reflect on my old shit that he loved. [00:18:32] Speaker A: Mm. [00:18:33] Speaker B: You know, and he'll be like, we'll be in the studio, and he'll be like, you know, do that shit you do. Like, do that shit you do. Cause, you know, as an artist, I'm always like this and just trying to climb and trying to find new shit and just trying to find a new pocket and, you know, just reaching for things that I can hone, you know what I'm saying? And stay, like, sharp and stay, like RJdev. But I forget that there's so much shit that I did and so many songs and so many styles that I did that was, like. That people love, you know? And, like, he's one of the artists that, you know, kind of. You know what I'm saying? Grew up on me, so he'd just be like, I do it like this. And then he mastered the singing. Mastered it. He's on a whole nother level. He's. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that. [00:19:26] Speaker B: He's, like, here, for real. [00:19:28] Speaker A: That second half of that verse. [00:19:29] Speaker B: Nah, that was him. [00:19:31] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:19:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that was him. And he don't need no help. I just try to, you know, just, you know, be a big bro. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Facts. [00:19:45] Speaker B: I just really just try to be a big bro and, you know, make sure, nigga, you know what I'm saying? I can. You know, I don't know. I just try to be a big bro. Fool, honestly. Like, him and him and lambs be in the studio locked in, too. So, you know, lamb's that nigga be like, you know, picking the songs and saying, like this. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Hands on. [00:20:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's nigga. He's a different type of manager, bro. He's a different type of manager. But siet me and Siete's conversations just be like, you know, we talk about life. Talk about, like, what's going on. You feel me? We don't play around. We get in the studio and we work. [00:20:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:26] Speaker B: And, you know, I be in a booth, he'll come in there like, hey, do this. Oh, yeah. Joe Budden for show just posted that song. The whole head. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Are you serious? [00:20:39] Speaker B: Just. [00:20:40] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:20:41] Speaker B: No, cap. [00:20:42] Speaker A: See, it must be something. There it is. Shout out to c eight. They might get a single off of RJ. [00:20:47] Speaker B: We made it last year. We was on our way to. We was on tour and made that song, and we played it in the car. And that nigga Lamb's like, you need to put this shit on. I'm your foe, right? I'm like, oh, damn. It's one of them, right? [00:21:03] Speaker A: It's one of those. [00:21:03] Speaker B: I knew it was hard, but, like, a lot of shit be hard to me, right? I don't want to just be sitting here and acting like I'm just this big ass fucking, you know. You know. You know, genius and shit. I just. I just know what I want to sound like. You know what I'm saying? [00:21:24] Speaker A: Yeah. And it got a feeling and a texture, too. [00:21:26] Speaker B: It's like, I know how I want. I know how I want to feel to me, like, you know. And sometimes things feel good to me and they don't feel good to everybody else. Yeah. [00:21:35] Speaker A: The other one is back, like, oh. [00:21:38] Speaker B: Shout out lil Vader, man. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Lil Vader, bro. Lil veda. Again. I want to shout out to Lil Vader, too. Not just because Lil Vada is incredible, but he's really. [00:21:47] Speaker B: And he's a performer. [00:21:48] Speaker A: He's a bro. I was about to say that, bro. He really performs. And, you know, I don't know if he got that. I don't know where he gets that from, but I know people be watching you perform, and I know that some people got to either feel like, oh, I got to step my shit up, or they feel like, damn, I ain't him. You know what I mean? And lil Vader's one of them people who get on stage and he leave it on stage every time. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure he do. [00:22:11] Speaker A: But that back record, crazy. [00:22:13] Speaker B: I can't wait to perform that one. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:22:15] Speaker B: I ain't gonna lie. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Did y'all work together in the studio on that or so he pulled up. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Oh, that's honestly, he pulled up. And Larry was playing beats and, nigga, I didn't have nothing to it. That's what I'm trying to tell you, bro. Like, I get. I love the people around me because when I'm out of fuel, niggas gonna. [00:22:34] Speaker A: Come like, hey, yeah, get it up. Let's. Let's get it in. [00:22:37] Speaker B: But I'm just so. I'm such a cool ass nigga, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, that's my expertise. Like, I'm a cool ass nigga. Like, I'm not about to be talking behind your back. I'm not about to be nigga. If I got something, if I feel some way about you, I'm gonna let you know. Yeah, feel me. You come around, nigga. Come on, man. Drink up. What? Whatever you want. You know what I'm saying? I'm just a cool ass nigga, fool. And motherfuckers like to. When they know me, they fuck with me. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:06] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So. And n't want to see me fail because I'm RJ nigga. And they know how I put on for the city. So it's like, nah, nigga, you the goat. I be like, shit, I'm the goat. [00:23:19] Speaker A: Just thank you. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Just thank you, nigga. Like, good looking, you know what I'm saying? And I love it, though. Cause but one thing I do work is I do do is I work hard as fucked. Fuck. And I'm like, always trying to sharpen my shit and make my shit better all the time. But Lil Vader came. I get back to the story. Larry making the beats, and I didn't even have nothing to it. I said, you got something, fool? Yup. I'm like, oh, he got it there, digga. [00:23:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker B: He like, do this, do this. Oh, yeah. I'm like, oh, we in there. Like, damn. [00:23:55] Speaker A: So Lil Vader came up with the idea. [00:23:57] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Wow. Shout out to Lil Vader, bro. [00:24:00] Speaker B: And then you give me an idea, I'm gonna go crazy, right. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna talk. I know how to talk that shit, right. You feel me? You feel me? I know how to talk that shit, nigga. I'm a real la nigga. You know what I'm saying? I know how to talk shit, for sure. You feel me? That's what I do know how to do. You know what I'm saying? [00:24:18] Speaker A: I think those to me like, are the records that. I mean, I ain't gonna lie. I posted it like, this big LA album is incredible. And you know me, I'm not gonna say that if I don't believe it. [00:24:29] Speaker B: That's true. [00:24:30] Speaker A: And when I was listening to it, I wasn't even all the way through with it yet. When I posted that, I was like. I was like, nine. I was like, nine in. And then you got to, like, the sensual record and stuff like that, but I'm like this motherfucker slapping. They go one to nine, and then you give us, like, a little different change up, but then they get right back, like. I think this is a really, really incredible piece of, like, the way that even the sequencing. And I know you give lambs a lot of credit for that, but the sequencing is good, and I think artists struggle a lot on this. I think artists struggle a lot on sequencing the album to wherever it'd be. Like, damn, they should have put that song third or put that song second. And you know me, I'm very critical, especially at you. Cause I'm a fan. So I'm going through like, damn, what would I have done? I would have moved it as I'm moving the songs where I'm like, nah, nope, that's it. Okay. That's right. [00:25:25] Speaker B: I wanna give you credit, too, because you picked that pretty bitch record. [00:25:31] Speaker A: Pretty bitches. You picked that on God. On God album. You picked that, and that shit was crazy. It's still going right now. [00:25:38] Speaker B: You picked that. I was like, what? [00:25:40] Speaker A: You like this shit, bro? [00:25:41] Speaker B: You're like, nigga, this one of the ones. It's one of the ones. I'm like, all right. [00:25:46] Speaker A: It's still going up on me. [00:25:48] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? But yeah, though, the sequence, man. Sonically, I want to sound. I want to flow. [00:25:55] Speaker A: What do you mean by that? Flow? [00:25:57] Speaker B: I think the world is. I think the world in the universe is based on how. How well it flows. I think the world has to flow in unison. It has to be perfect harmony. I believe that. And sonically, I want to flow. I want to be. I want to flow like the universe, you know what I'm saying? I want it to go like this. Whether it's up or down. It's a good. It's a flow. You know what I'm saying? Like a wave. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Gotcha. [00:26:24] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And that's how I pick my shit. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Like 1st, 2nd, 3rd type shit. [00:26:29] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? If I want to. If I want you to turn up, I'm gonna pick this. I'm gonna. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna put that right there. And I really, like, just, like, picture, like, I picture, like, these listeners in their car, like, speeding. Oh, floating, floating. You know what I'm saying? On a trip to vet. On a clean. Like, I say, 09:00 09:00 p.m. trip to Vegas. Like, nigga, just slide. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Oh, you know what I'm saying? And it's banging. [00:27:03] Speaker B: It's banging. You going like, nigga, now I can go to the bay. Cause I got a catalog, so. You know what I'm saying? It's good. [00:27:11] Speaker A: Yeah, RJ, all the way up the bay. [00:27:12] Speaker B: All the way up to the bay. You dig? [00:27:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:14] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? But that's how I just picture my shit mentally. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just visualize it and I just pick my songs. I make so many songs. I don't make the, like, I've never made, like, an album. And I'm just like, okay, we're making an album and we're doing this. I think I did that with Mister LA, with that project. But other than that, I think I just make a lot of songs pertaining to different moves and mood swings and emotions and attitudes and how you feel. You know what I'm saying? Vulnerability, you know, all that shit. I just make shit in the studio. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, I just make shit. Just make everything. My sister told me shit, you got a song for everything. [00:28:01] Speaker A: That's what they say about Jay Z. [00:28:02] Speaker B: You got a song for everything. I said, I'm just going in there trying to make everything, and I'm not. That's. It's a catch 22. Because that's why I don't make the same song. Yeah, you wonder why? Like, I want the old RJ is be like, damn. [00:28:20] Speaker A: Like, how do that? I can't make the same thing, you know I'm saying? [00:28:25] Speaker B: But I can. What I can do. I did study the old RJ. [00:28:31] Speaker A: Really? What does that mean? When you went back, which ones did you listen to? [00:28:36] Speaker B: I'm your one. I'm your two. Amio, three. The TMB's TMB one and two, nigga, the. On, God, the Mister LA. [00:28:48] Speaker A: Like, I just like, what was you studying? Like, what were you listening for? [00:28:53] Speaker B: Hunger. Like, how I felt at that time. Like, reflecting back on how I felt at that time. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Like I got a kid on the way or. [00:29:02] Speaker B: Yeah, shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Just like, going through going through memory lane and just trying to, you know, kind of, like, pick emotions and, you know, now just like, all right, let me just go in. Let me just go flood the studio. Like, it make me want to, like, listening to old me make me want to go in the studio and just rap. [00:29:26] Speaker A: Is there anything else that you do? Because I remember shout to the young homie, Corday. He's dope MCDe, but he said he went and moved back in with his, you know, Corday rich, he went and moved back in with his mom, sleeping on the air mattress when he was working on the last album. And I'm like, why would, like, I didn't believe him, you know, me. So I facetime him. Like, let me see the mattress. So he lift the blankets up, and he really sleeping on the air mattress in his mom's crib, and he's like, bro, I gotta channel that energy. And that's kind of what you describing to me. Is there anything that you do psychologically or mentally, to go back to that space? [00:29:58] Speaker B: Mm. [00:30:00] Speaker A: Cause I remember talking to nip, and I think he jumped on the bus or something one time to kind of get that feeling back, like, and then when him and j Rock, they took the train to the east side, little stuff like that that people do that I noticed that they do to, like, channel that kind of energy. Is there anything that you do to put yourself back in that situation? Maybe go back to go see certain homies or have conversation with somebody? [00:30:29] Speaker B: Man, I go through shit every day, though. [00:30:31] Speaker A: Every day. [00:30:32] Speaker B: You know, I go through, like, real life every day, and there's so much shit that I can't say right. You know what I'm saying? [00:30:48] Speaker A: Like, dealing with just life. Yeah, just life stuff. [00:30:51] Speaker B: I get it. [00:30:52] Speaker A: I get it. [00:30:53] Speaker B: I just deal with life every day, and a lot of people don't know how much it takes, how much energy it takes to be who I want to be, you know, and be who I want to be and maintain the person, the position I do have and be who I am. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like. It's like a lie. I just try, like I said, I just try to, like, you know, stay in the studio as much as I can and just, I don't know, like, deal with shit, dawg. [00:31:28] Speaker A: I feel you. [00:31:29] Speaker B: I deal with shit. [00:31:30] Speaker A: How do you balance. How do you balance fatherhood with being a superstar? [00:31:34] Speaker B: That's hard as fuck. [00:31:36] Speaker A: I would imagine that's hard, bro. [00:31:41] Speaker B: But I wanted, I just, like I said, I just really hope and I'm working to make sure all the time spent away from my kids, it's worth it. [00:31:57] Speaker A: It's worth it. Yeah, it gotta be worth it. [00:32:00] Speaker B: It just gotta be worth it, bro. I could pass on and, you know, be amongst the stars and shit, but it just gotta be worth it for my kids and not to make their life just like easier, per se, because nothing's easy, you know, even having money is not either. It's not easy, but just tools to give them strength to, you know, carry the load that they have that comes up, that comes on their shoulders, you know what I'm saying? I had great parents. I'm sure you did too. But they wasn't given the tools to, you know, properly pass on to us. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Yeah, to get through life. [00:32:51] Speaker B: To get through life without the distractions, you know what I'm saying? Without having to limit distractions and shit like that. My bad. Food. My bad. I watch fights. I'm. Put this down right here. No, but, yeah, but I had great parents, you know what I'm saying? But I want to just be a. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Better parent than they were financially wise. Right, right. [00:33:19] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? Financially, I wanted just be able to make sure my kids got tools and it's equipped financially so they could just feel me do like these rich motherfuckers could do, you know what I'm saying? And I, and that's, that's my goal. But, but it's not easy because I'm a rapper and I'm a striving artist, too, at the end of the day, even though I got dough. But, nigga, it take money. [00:33:53] Speaker A: Oh, I know, nigga. [00:33:56] Speaker B: Sometimes you might just gonna have to like, all right, I got the savings form, you know what I'm saying? But we take a little 10,000 off, I'm gonna put it back. You know what I'm saying? [00:34:07] Speaker A: I'm gonna put it back. [00:34:08] Speaker B: It's crazy, you know what I'm saying? But no, I had to get out of that, though. [00:34:13] Speaker A: That's a mentality. [00:34:14] Speaker B: That's a mentality. I had to get out of that. [00:34:15] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. [00:34:17] Speaker B: I'm not taking from that no more, you know what I'm saying? All right. Not only that, like, let me get. Let me make sure my insurance is right. Facts, you know what I'm saying? Like, let me. [00:34:26] Speaker A: That's something nobody, no rapper's talking about. Get insurance, dental, health, life insurance. [00:34:32] Speaker B: Nah, for real. You know what I'm saying? For real, you know what I'm saying? Make sure my insurance is right. Make sure my trust is on point, like, you know what I'm saying? Just making sure I'm equipped like these rich motherfuckers that I looked up to, you know what I'm saying? That never gave me the game. I had to figure it out myself. I don't want my kids to have to figure it out themselves. I want them to have a manuscript just like every. All they. All them do, you know what I'm saying? Have a manuscript on. All right. What, pops? They do. It's right here. [00:35:03] Speaker A: It's right here. [00:35:04] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So that's what I'm on. You know what I'm saying? For the future. [00:35:08] Speaker A: What about, what about the music? Is there been a. Has there ever been a song where your kids was a. Your kids was the inspiration behind that song and it, like, have we heard that? [00:35:23] Speaker B: Um, I think, yeah. Get rich. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Wait, so when you did get rich, you already had a kid? [00:35:30] Speaker B: I think. Yeah, I did have, um, on the way. Yeah, I did. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Oh, you had a one on the way. [00:35:35] Speaker B: I had rain. Yeah. [00:35:38] Speaker A: So when you did get rich, that was. I mean, when you recorded the song, that was the motivation? [00:35:42] Speaker B: Like, nah, I mean, yeah, yeah. It's always the motivation. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Oh, once you have a kid, that's it. That's the motivation. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, it's always like, fuck. Like, nigga, it be times, nigga, I be gone and I just be like, damn, I can't even like, you know what I'm saying? Wake my son up. You know what I'm saying? I just wake him up and just be like. Cause I'm so gone, nigga. [00:36:13] Speaker A: Like, yeah, just, you know what I'm saying? [00:36:15] Speaker B: Sometimes I just be wanting like, you know, I don't know. Sometimes I want to do shit and I can't do shit. So it's just like, damn, I'm just in the studio. Let me just make it work. My wild, like, let me make it work, son. [00:36:27] Speaker A: Got you. [00:36:28] Speaker B: I'm saying. [00:36:29] Speaker A: So RJ on stage, I mean, Boulevard Cav said that you the best performer in LA. [00:36:35] Speaker B: He said that. [00:36:36] Speaker A: He did say that. He said, I like that. RJ on stage is hard to. It's hard to follow. It's hard to follow RJ on stage. I know. That's intentional. We already talked about that. What are you thinking about when you first get on stage? And then we're going to talk about the pop out, too, because I don't know if it was different, but when before you go on stage, like, we got this palladium show, which is going to be a career defining moment. You said that because once people do that palladium show, you got Roddy Rich with the antisocial album. You got nip, victory lap. You got Don K. He did it. You got the blast. Like, everybody has a palladium show from here. And it takes you to another level as a superstar, as a. Oh, this. This is somebody we need to take serious in the industry. Right. What do you think about right before you go on stage, what's on your mind? Right before you. The minute right before you step foot on the stage, what's on your mind? What are you thinking about? [00:37:38] Speaker B: First of all, I pray. [00:37:39] Speaker A: You pray? [00:37:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I pray. Cause I be nervous. [00:37:43] Speaker A: You still get nervous? [00:37:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:46] Speaker A: I don't think people under people that doesn't look like you get nervous. When I see you on stage, it don't look like you're nervous. [00:37:51] Speaker B: Yeah. I honestly use my nerves as my. And my energy as, you know, use my nerves as a natural energy. That sounds some nerdy shit. [00:38:07] Speaker A: No, it's the truth. If it's the truth, it's the truth. [00:38:09] Speaker B: I use my nerves as my natural energy. And I just. I pray you feel me. And I just. And I gotta feel the, like, I gotta feel the energy of the building, too. [00:38:26] Speaker A: The people. [00:38:27] Speaker B: I gotta feel the energy of the people. You know what I'm saying? Gotcha. And that turned me up to another whole nother notch. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:37] Speaker B: It's like a lion out the cage. Feel me. When you see a lion walk, it's motionless. Feel me? [00:38:46] Speaker A: I ain't never seen a lion walk in person. I don't want to see one. But you ain't seen one? Nah, I'm cool. [00:38:50] Speaker B: Or even look at. Just look at on tv. [00:38:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. No, I'm talking about it in person, like, I'm cool on. In person. Yeah. But I don't get. I don't fuck with them people. I mean, them lies. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm just saying, you know, like an animal. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I know what you saying. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Like an animal. When they walk, they. They don't. They're not trying to be nobody else. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Yeah, they just. They're just doing they shit. [00:39:16] Speaker B: Doing they shit like a lion's not trying to just be a fucking giraffe. You know what I'm saying? A giraffe not trying to be a lion. Yeah, they just. They are who they are. And that's who I am. And I. And I hone. I hone all of that energy. And I just try to be motionless. You feel me flow like the water. [00:39:38] Speaker A: Now, you was part of one of the biggest moments. [00:39:43] Speaker B: God first, you feel me? You was part of. [00:39:47] Speaker A: No, let me rephrase. We. We were part of one of the biggest moments in hip hop history. Ken and friends to pop out on Juneteenth at the forum. You got the. I called you at seven in the morning or some day of thank you for answering the phone. I didn't think you was gonna pick up. Cause you was like, you was gone. [00:40:09] Speaker B: That's God, man. [00:40:10] Speaker A: For real. Cause normally I can't get ahold of you in the morning. I mean, you be up, but like. [00:40:16] Speaker B: Nigga, like today, right? [00:40:18] Speaker A: But it was like, I don't know. It was God. But I got the call from them and was like, yo, can you get us RJ? I mean, yeah, if he. I don't like. [00:40:26] Speaker B: They called you. [00:40:27] Speaker A: They called me. [00:40:29] Speaker B: It's fire. [00:40:29] Speaker A: They called me. That's the thing that people don't understand about the pop out. I didn't choose the lineup like that. I can't take credit for that. It was a collective effort. And I just followed orders, like, hey, we want this person. We want this person. We want this person. And I need you to make it make sense, nigga. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Right. Cause I had just talked to you. [00:40:47] Speaker A: I know, I know. [00:40:48] Speaker B: You said nothing about nothing. [00:40:51] Speaker A: I didn't know. [00:40:52] Speaker B: I'm like, man, what's up, man? I just talked to this nigga hand. [00:40:55] Speaker A: What happened? [00:40:56] Speaker B: The fuck nigga shot. I'm seeing niggas. I'm seeing little sneak peeks and shit. I'm looking at the phone like, damn, nigga. He had a cold ass nigga. But I didn't understand until I got there. [00:41:08] Speaker A: And then you saw the program. [00:41:09] Speaker B: And I saw the program, and I'm. [00:41:11] Speaker A: Like, damn, that's the thing. [00:41:13] Speaker B: Damn. Cause I spoke up for Joe Moses. Am I right? [00:41:15] Speaker A: Correct. [00:41:16] Speaker B: I spoke up for Joe Moses. And I'm saying, shout out Joe. Because I believe he should have been there on a time like this and a time like that where he got the biggest. He's him. 310, baby. And Kendrick got hits. Got the hits right now. Right, right, right. [00:41:34] Speaker A: For sure. [00:41:34] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:41:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:35] Speaker B: So I felt like he should have been there. So I'm like, that's why I spoke up. Like, what's up with Joe? It's nothing I can do. [00:41:41] Speaker A: It's nothing I can do, you know what I'm saying? [00:41:43] Speaker B: And I didn't understand it. So I got there, and I was. [00:41:45] Speaker A: Like, damn, it's a tight program. [00:41:47] Speaker B: It's tv. [00:41:48] Speaker A: It's tv. And then, you know what's dope, too, is. I mean, there was a lot of people there. It wasn't just Joe. I want a single Joe out. [00:41:54] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no. I'm singling Joe out because that's my homie. [00:41:58] Speaker A: No, no, me, too. [00:41:59] Speaker B: There was a lot of people there that should have been there, though. You know what I'm saying? [00:42:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I wanted Lil Vader. I wanted, like, what you call it? Event staples. Like, it was a whole bunch of people. Greedo. Like, it was a whole bunch of people that I think would have been dope to have there. But it was just. That wasn't the program, so. But you, when I called you and I told you, like, yo, come do the pop out, I don't know what I said, but they called me and I called you. [00:42:27] Speaker B: You said, I need you, p. They're like, nigga, like, wake up. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Wake up, bro. This is it. [00:42:40] Speaker B: Like, man, they called me 30. They literally called me 30 seconds ago. I thought that was cap, honestly. But you telling me then I'm like, damn, that shit. But, yeah, that was like, literally called me 30 seconds ago, nigga. They said, call RJ, nigga. But you can perform, but you gotta be there for soundcheck, correct? All time sound check. You gotta be there at 11:00 right? [00:43:05] Speaker A: Shit, that's 4 hours away. [00:43:08] Speaker B: I said, damn, I ain't go. What? Got off the phone. Call lambs. Lambs said, wait, what time? Soundtrack, my shit. Eleven. Or I'm about to be on my way. Like, damn, this shit's serious. [00:43:23] Speaker A: It's serious, bro. [00:43:24] Speaker B: The chops don't go to shit that he ain't supposed to go. You feel me, RJ? A little more little ghetto like, nigga, I be on little places I shouldn't be. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, that's just who RJ is. You know what I'm saying? Lamb's not. Lambs ain't supposed to be there. He ain't going. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Right? [00:43:45] Speaker B: You hear me? Lambs go to exclusive shit or shit that he should be at. And I fuck with that. I admire that a lot. Lams called me and said lambs? He said, I'm on my way. I said, oh, damn. It's serious, nigga. We was there at, like, 945. You was there 945, nigga. [00:44:06] Speaker A: And it was so last minute that there wasn't even a trailer for you. I was like, bro, just take my trailer. [00:44:13] Speaker B: No cap, no cap, no trailer, right? It is nowhere. Did it say RJ Mister La. No, it didn't say RJ nothing. No, nothing. No, it was just DJ head, pull up, meet the whoops. Caitlin. Three 10, baby. I'm like, damn, that shit hard. I was happy for niggas, though, you know what I'm saying? [00:44:37] Speaker A: We don't really get looks like that. [00:44:39] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And I was there, nigga. Nigga, shout out, bless, nigga. I hit Mike up. Hey, Mike, you trying to go, you feel me? Yeah, that's. You know what I'm saying? I say Mike Wayne a lot, because that nigga was there from the beginning, right? You know, from the beginning, you know what I'm saying? So anything he want to be a part of, he could be a part of nigga for real, because he was there from the beginning. It's my job, nigga. It's our job to make each other rich. So feel me? We trying to make each other wealthy. You know what I'm saying? So. But Mike Wayne was there, you know what I'm saying, nigga? We just went to bless right there in Eaglewood. Feel me? On prairie. You know what I'm saying? I got me some brown stuff, chicken. [00:45:24] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [00:45:25] Speaker B: Rice and peas. You know what I'm saying? Feel me? Yeah, we slid over there. I'm in DJ head trailer. I'm like, yeah, Sally's gonna come in and throw his little shots. Oh, yeah. I. Yeah, nigga. We got what he say. He said, we got what you call them niggas. [00:45:42] Speaker A: Squatters. [00:45:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he said, we got squatters in here, motherfucker. You motherfucker. Yeah. I said, nigga, don't forget, nigga. Nigga, it was my trailer at first. Right? [00:45:52] Speaker A: Right. [00:45:53] Speaker B: He said, why did the tables turn? [00:45:54] Speaker A: What? [00:45:55] Speaker B: I was like, oh, this nigga cold. I like, nah, nah, they don't turn, nigga. It's just the last little minute. [00:46:00] Speaker A: It's the last little minute. [00:46:01] Speaker B: Shout out salas, though, man. [00:46:02] Speaker A: But I think it's important, because two things is important about this, and then I'm gonna talk about the actual show. But two things is important about what you just said. The first thing is being ready, so you ain't gotta get ready. [00:46:16] Speaker B: And my daddy preached that. [00:46:18] Speaker A: Really? [00:46:19] Speaker B: Yeah, recipe, man. Preach that. Stay ready. You don't gotta get ready. Don't. [00:46:23] Speaker A: When that call come, what it's like? You know what I mean? You never know. Like, oh, I ain't got a haircut, or I ain't got. Bro, this ain't the time for that. [00:46:31] Speaker B: This ain't the time for that. I'll pop out, nigga. Cruddy. This is one of them times, right? Yeah, for real. You know what I'm saying? And the hair, not, I don't give a fuck. [00:46:42] Speaker A: And you showed up. And I appreciate that. You know, just. I appreciate them too. Shout out to the free lunch agency. Shout out to PG Lane and Amazon music, you know, for letting everybody do they thing. [00:46:52] Speaker B: Shout out blow collection, too. Cause I was flying the motherfucker. I had the Dale Earnhardt on the fact. Nigga, you did. I got a fan for that Fitzhe, feel me? Somebody hit me up and said, I'm a fan now. [00:47:03] Speaker A: Just cause of the outfit, cause of the fit. [00:47:05] Speaker B: Feel me? [00:47:06] Speaker A: But the second thing that's important, though, is being humble. Because me. Because me, I'm gonna tell you mine and you give me yours. [00:47:16] Speaker B: Okay? [00:47:16] Speaker A: Mine is I'm older than Kendrick and I'm older than mustard. But in that situation, like I said, I'm the little homie, so I gotta fall in line. I gotta go and be like, yo, they need me to do a job. It's only three names on the bill. This shit gotta go right. My shit gotta be tight because I know what they finna do. So I gotta make our shit, our shit gotta be just as hard as they shit, if not better. That's what I'm on. And so it's about having a humble mentality of, this is not even when I said you wasn't even at the first rehearsal because you was last minute addition, but when I was telling everybody at the first rehearsal, I said, bro, this is not about me. This is not about you, your song, this is dot shit. This ain't. He could have did a pop out, and he just did an hour by himself, and everybody would have been satisfied. He didn't have to share that moment with us. So because it's not about me. It's not about you. It ain't about me. It says my name, but it still ain't about me. Because I could have went up there and djed for half an hour and I brought nobody out. You know what I mean? So my thing is, it's a collective effort. And having a humble mentality to be like, this ain't about me. Let me just do my job. Let me get all of the homies together. Hey, I know what y'all politics is like. I know you don't function with these, but I need everybody in line right now. Because this is a look that we finna get, and we finna shake the whole world up today. So that was my humble. That was me talking to myself, like, I gotta. You can't have an ego. If they tell. If I'm talking to, I'm talking to muster, I'm going with him over his set. Like, yeah, he doing this song, he doing this song. I'm like, all right, whatever you doing, send me what songs you playing. So that way, when I'm djing, I don't play the songs you gonna play or bring niggas out? Cause I don't know who he bringing out, right? I didn't even know what that set looked like yet because it was all separated and it was all last minute. They put this show together in less than two weeks. So I was saying that to say, if I'm going into it with a humble, humble mentality, like, whatever dot is Finna do, I can't do. Whatever muscle Finna do, I can't do. And whatever songs that y'all finna perform, I can't play. Even at the show, we was half an hour late. I was supposed to do a dj set before I brought the first person out. [00:49:30] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:49:31] Speaker A: I didn't do that because I coulda took my time and did my dj set. But it's not about me. Let me just start the show. Rimble, come on. Boom. Start the show. Right? So that was me humbling myself and making sure that I checked my ego at the door. Like, this ain't about you right now. When I called you and you was like, bet I'm gonna be there. I'm on it. You don't give a fuck? I don't give a fuck about no trailer. I don't give a fuck about no. Like, I'm there. I understand that. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:49:58] Speaker A: How do you maintain that level of humility? Like, where do you. How do you check your ego? [00:50:04] Speaker B: Mm. What I do now is honestly, like, look, I'm gonna be real. Like, right? I'm not humble for no man. I'm just not. Feel me? Cause I don't pray to no man. I pray to God. [00:50:25] Speaker A: I'm with that. [00:50:28] Speaker B: And I humble myself for God. And I feel like what I do with men is I respect them. You feel me? Like, I don't treat you no bigger than I treat. You know what I'm saying? This person, I don't treat this person no bigger than you. And I said, nobody is wrong for what they do. But this is what RJ does, is I just respected man tremendously because we go through a lot just being a man. Feel me? So I just show respect, bro. And like, when it came to the pop out show, one thing you said was, this is dot shit. [00:51:15] Speaker A: This dot shit. [00:51:17] Speaker B: Feel me? When you look at the sets, it's dot, it, quote, s mustard, it's dj head. They don't say RJ Mister La. [00:51:29] Speaker A: Right. [00:51:30] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:51:31] Speaker A: Right, right. [00:51:32] Speaker B: So it's my duty to give you that respect. [00:51:37] Speaker A: I feel that. [00:51:39] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:51:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:41] Speaker B: That's your moment. You shared your moment with us. Get what I'm saying? That's, like, big in our community. Niggas don't do that. Feel me? And them motherfuckers over there don't think we do that. [00:51:58] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:52:00] Speaker B: They think we straight, man. We robbing everything. It's either two ways they think we are. They think we either nice or too rough. [00:52:07] Speaker A: Right? [00:52:08] Speaker B: They don't get no medium. [00:52:10] Speaker A: No. [00:52:11] Speaker B: You know, saying, so it's like, to show that it's big. Oh, that's big. Respect. You know I'm saying, I'm gonna show that respect. No, not with no care in the fucking world, nigga, because that's what get. That's what needs to be given, nigga. Not because it's just always. You just. I'm saying. Showing me a shot, nigga. If I wasn't on the show, I'm gonna give that respect, nigga. It don't say RJ Mister La on there. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Right. [00:52:37] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [00:52:37] Speaker A: Right. And before it said before my name was added, I was on the same way. Which you need help with, like, I'll go pick up the waters. [00:52:46] Speaker B: That's a man. [00:52:47] Speaker A: I'll go pick the waters up. [00:52:48] Speaker B: That's a man. [00:52:48] Speaker A: Because this is. Because I also understand what this does for everybody in the ecosystem. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:52:55] Speaker A: It's this. Not even if you. If you lil Vader and you wasn't on that stage, this still benefits you because you on the record. You on RJ's albumen. [00:53:02] Speaker B: No, for sure. [00:53:03] Speaker A: And you for sure gonna do these shows. [00:53:05] Speaker B: Facts. [00:53:06] Speaker A: Everybody in the world is looking at what we gonna do now. So if you got some shit, now is the time. Now is the time to put that shit out. But I wanted to get your perspective on that. Now, you talked about what you do before you go on stage at the pop out. Did anything change or you prayed and then just. [00:53:24] Speaker B: I prayed. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Did you do anything different than you normally do. [00:53:32] Speaker B: Before you went before both? Nah, I ain't do nothing different. I just prayed and I just. I pray for confidence. [00:53:44] Speaker A: You don't naturally have confidence. [00:53:50] Speaker B: I be nervous, dawg. This is my sh. This is. This is where I live. You know, like, on stage. That's where I live. Sometimes, like, nigga, sometimes it could just go wrong. Yeah, I be having, like, all kind of shit. Like, what if I do this shit? Not this shit. This. I just pray. I just pray, bro. I be nervous, fool. I'm not just, like, gonna act like n. I'm just like, oh, nigga. Nah, fool. I'm a. I'm a human being, man. That's a big ass stage. [00:54:24] Speaker A: Big ass stage. [00:54:26] Speaker B: And I know, and I think the reason why people accept me and hold on to me so much is because I'm not scared to be me. I'm not scared to be me, dawg. I don't care. I go through gang politics being me. I go through nigga fucking industry politics being me. You know what I'm saying? I don't give a fuck. At the end of the day, nigga, I'd rather be me, nigga than somebody then fake me and somebody else, nigga, for some money. I'm not gonna be. I'm gonna get there. When I signed up for this shit, I knew it was a long ass journey, and I'm in for the rob. You know what I'm saying? But when I got up there and when I hit the stage, man, I prayed. I prayed for show. Shit. I pray for show. I'm gonna say that again. I pray for show. Like, what the fuck? And I don't pray. I just pray like, I pray for confidence. You know what I'm saying? I need the energy. I need the energy of the room. I need the. I need the. I need to remember my words. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:35] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? I got so many songs. Um, man. [00:55:40] Speaker A: Bro, God first, man, is there anything that goes to you? Like, when I. When. When I hit the. When I hit the intro to get rich and you walked up on stage, what was going through your mind? [00:55:54] Speaker B: I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear everybody at first. I couldn't feel. I heard people, but I couldn't feel it yet, so it just. So I had to, like. I had to, like, just like, I didn't even say shit. If you notice, I didn't rap my shit, nigga, until, nigga, halfway through the song, I had to feel that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I felt it, and it's just like. Oh, it's just like. You feel me? Yeah. It's like whole nother. Ooh, ooh, nigga girls did I looked at you? [00:56:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:31] Speaker B: You see this nigga? Girl say, nigga, it was like. You was looking like, yeah, nigga. Now they see what I see, like, type shit. Like, I was fucking with that fool. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:42] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying, cuz? Nigga, you rock with me from the beginning, nigga. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, nigga, that's. That's big. This our moment. You shared your moment with me. N. I'm gonna go up for you, fool. That's how it is. You know what I mean? But it was like. It was a. It was. It was memorable. And I didn't know it was gonna go viral like that, though. [00:57:01] Speaker A: You didn't? [00:57:01] Speaker B: No. No, sir. Rebob. [00:57:04] Speaker A: So when it did, I just. [00:57:05] Speaker B: I got lost. I lost, bro. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Dom said he had the same thing. He just got stuck in that moment. He was just couldn't even. [00:57:13] Speaker B: I got lost, bro. I was lost. I was lost. I was just gone. I just was, like, in a mode where it's just me, and then it just was like, I don't know. Fools just got lost, bro. And I just, like, felt it, and I just wanted to. You know what I'm saying? I just wanted to leave it all there. I didn't want to take nothing with me. I appreciate the handshakes and the love and all that shit, but it's like, next. I gotta go now. I gotta go do this palladium, right? You know what I'm saying? I gotta go do this palladium. September 14. I gotta go do this. I gotta turn this motherfucker. But I appreciated the love, niggas, as soon as I got off stage, nigga. Demar Derozan, nigga. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Yep. [00:57:59] Speaker B: You know. You know I fuck with these niggas. You feel me? The more hip nigga. Art nigga. Russell Westbrook, nigga. You know what I'm saying? All the homies and shit, they was like, they give me all this love and shit, bro. Pookie was right there. Shout out, pookie F. And Rudy was right there. They was just giving me all this love, bro. And, like, I was just like, damn. Thank you. You feel me? But it was like. It was almost like, damn, what did I do? Almost. It was almost like that. Like, damn. What the fuck did I do? [00:58:30] Speaker A: That's called imposter syndrome. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Like, what did I do to make these motherfuckers have this much energy and these niggas hug? Big ass hugs, nigga. You know what I'm saying? [00:58:41] Speaker A: I think it was. You know what it is, too. It's the energy in the room. It was camaraderie. No wonder why they tripping. [00:58:46] Speaker B: I'm just looking at. [00:58:47] Speaker A: It was just like, I'm looking at bad. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Some bad ones, like, looking at me crazy, like lustin for me big trophy. I'm like, damn, you looking at me. You look me. It must gotta be the jacket. It gotta, you know, like, it gotta be the jacket. [00:59:06] Speaker A: It's the juice. [00:59:06] Speaker B: Gotta be the drip. You know what I'm saying? I said, I'm on like, damn, it's me. Like, you know what I mean? And I. And I love that fool. And it's not like, it's not like, you know what I mean? Shama, rock star at the end of the day, fool. [00:59:18] Speaker A: I also think. I also think from that show, because I know, like, you know, PG Lang, the whole family, like, shout out dot. [00:59:25] Speaker B: Shout out Kendrick Lang. And one thing, too. Not, go ahead, go ahead, get your shit up. Shout out lil shut out little l. Yeah, nigga. And shout out g. Real nigga. [00:59:33] Speaker A: Yep. [00:59:34] Speaker B: Hey. Cause them niggas was like, nigga fighting for me, too. N called me, like, the day before. Like, nigga, we trying to get you on this shit, bro. You gotta be on this shit. And I'm just like, man, if I make it, I'm saying, yeah, blessings. Blessings. You know, I make it God's grace, you know? But they was fighting, though, bro, and they didn't. And then you called me. And then when I got there, Elle was like, you in this motherfucker. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Yeah, Elle real. [01:00:11] Speaker B: I gave a nigga big hug, man. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Because shout out to my nigga lil l. He always looking out. [01:00:16] Speaker B: Always, bro, always. [01:00:18] Speaker A: Now when it comes to again, shout to dot and the whole team, too, bro. Like, just for sharing that moment, making that moment. And also, we didn't know about the stage picture or none of that. Like, that was last minute. Like, yo, dot want everybody on stage. [01:00:31] Speaker B: I'm like, yeah, that was crazy. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Oh, shit. Okay. And, you know, like I said, I'm just. I'm a servant at this point. I'm just. I'm doing. Playing my. Playing my position. All right, everybody to the stage. Cool. When you saw the picture afterwards, that big ass picture, what was your thoughts when you saw that picture? [01:00:50] Speaker B: West coast. [01:00:52] Speaker A: Me, too. [01:00:56] Speaker B: West coast. You know what I'm saying? No matter what they throw at us, I know the whole industry is trying to block us out. I know that right now. And I don't give a fuck. Niggas gotta come here. Yeah, no, matter where you go in the world, gots to come here, bro. You know what I'm saying? And the artists, it's not the artist, so don't hold them accountable, nigga. It's not them, nigga. They fuck with us, nigga. They come over here, they show us big love, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it's just the. It's low key, like the little power, that beat. [01:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:30] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? That's what this thing, this whole movement is about. Big l a n, put that shit in your face. You can't go nowhere without it, nigga. We a staple in hip hop. Fuck rap, fuck just west coast music. We a staple with hip hop, nigga. And that's what it's gonna be forever. You cannot erase that. [01:01:49] Speaker A: Can't erase it. [01:01:50] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [01:01:51] Speaker A: And what, you know, dot said it on the record. [01:01:53] Speaker B: And it's unity over here. I be seeing crips rap with bloods and bloods wrapped with hoovers and hoovers, crips and sas and, you know, getting along and all kind of shit over here stop playing. And I owe that a lot to the younger. I owe that to for one for yg, too. Yg out was the first nigga I seen that had bloods and crips in his camp. They don't get credit for that. [01:02:18] Speaker A: Yeah, but glasses, too. [01:02:19] Speaker B: Bloods and crips. I wasn't there for glasses. [01:02:22] Speaker A: I know, I know I was. [01:02:23] Speaker B: But I do know glasses, though. That's my boy. Every time you see me in the airport, nigga, he always showed me love. We gotta get it in, too, malone, come on. I got raps about you. [01:02:31] Speaker A: Leave. [01:02:33] Speaker B: Come on, man. But, yeah, but for what I see, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to give him the credit because he had bloods and crips, you know, sent together and shit. And then I want to say, draco. Yep, Draco has a lot to do with, you know, I'm saying, the little nick, the younger, the younger generation of us, you know what I'm saying? Like, his sound, his mannerisms, and the way he, you know, saying fuck with bloods and crips, you know what I'm saying? And saying essays and all that shit. You feel me? Fucking with that nigga? He did a lot, you know what I'm saying? And that don't go unnoticed. [01:03:12] Speaker A: Facts. [01:03:12] Speaker B: You feel me? You feel me? Cause this here is big, la. And, nigga, it ain't no la without Draco either, though. You know what I'm saying? Feel me? Rest in peace, Draco. Recipes, nipsey hussle. You know what I'm saying? Recipes, my brother. Mello Loco. You feel me? All the fallen soldiers, nigga. Recipes. You know what I'm saying? And you know what I'm saying? We gonna keep pumping this shit. I just want to get that out. [01:03:30] Speaker A: There, as you should. [01:03:31] Speaker B: If I miss anybody, I'm sorry. Feel me? But I do. You know what I'm saying? I do love y'all, for real. [01:03:38] Speaker A: I want to give you credit, too. [01:03:40] Speaker B: Oh, damn. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Because there are certain, you know, things I see you do, and I'm like, oh, that's RJ the man. That's RJ the artist. That's not RJ the gangbanger. That's not RJ the street dude. And we ain't got to speak on it. But I've seen you talk to people and have conversations with people who you otherwise wouldn't have had conversations with if it would have been RJ from the past. And that's how I know you really trying to go somewhere else with this shit. Like, you really trying to be one of them ones and mentioning them conversation when they get to talking about the greatest this and the best that. And so I want to give you that credit, too. [01:04:19] Speaker B: But I be trying to do shit on the low because it's like, you know, that's not what it's about. You know what I mean? I never want to just gloat and those shit in people's face. For real. That part, what I do. [01:04:32] Speaker A: I get it. [01:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:33] Speaker A: I leave it alone. But I'm just saying. I appreciate that you get that credit, too. Now, coming off of the. Coming off of this show, going into the palladium show, this show. First time. [01:04:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:47] Speaker A: I don't want to make you nervous. Cause you say you be nervous. [01:04:49] Speaker B: I do be nervous, but once I hit the stage, I'm a whole. I'm that animal. [01:04:56] Speaker A: This your first time doing a headlining show at the palladium? [01:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:00] Speaker A: This is, like I said, it's a long history at this venue where people change their life. Are you going into it with the mentality like, I'm finna just do what I do? Are you going into the mentality like, you know what's on the line? Are you going into the mentality like you was when you made get rich? [01:05:20] Speaker B: All of the above with new levels. You gotta. Each level you hit, you gotta take. You gotta repeat everything you did from level one. [01:05:34] Speaker A: I never heard that. Yeah, I agree with that you take all the skills, everything you experience is everything. [01:05:41] Speaker B: Everything. So when you go from level one, level two, it was hard to get to level two. But don't forget what you did. Don't forget the tools that you had and the mistakes that you made and the things that you learned. Take everything that you did to get to level two. Repeat that with new shit, you know what I'm saying? New shit that you learned on that level, too. You know what I'm saying? When I went to dj vision, just brought me out at the palladium and I realized that it ain't no joke. [01:06:14] Speaker A: Oh, you get it? [01:06:15] Speaker B: Uh huh. I did. I also did, I did the palladium with young thug. Yeah, shot. Free thug, too. I just want to say that. Free thug. I did the palladium with bro, and that was big, too. But seeing LA come out for LA is like a. It's like, oh, I get why they came out for, you know, yg. All the work that he does, he's done. You know what I'm saying? So I do know that I got a lot of work to do. I do know that. But I do know that I put in a lot of work, too. So I get it. It just makes. I get it. I understand. It's 4000 people. [01:06:59] Speaker A: Big draws. This is the big draws to feel right. [01:07:02] Speaker B: There's 4000 people, bro, and I know. 4000 people know me. You know what I'm saying? 4000 people want to come see a RJ show. [01:07:13] Speaker A: That's what people, artists always take. I mean, not always. I see a lot of artists take for granted that they do shows and. [01:07:18] Speaker B: They should come to an RJ show. [01:07:20] Speaker A: They should. They take for granted that they do shows, but they don't realize people are spending their money. They got, like, think about the logistics that goes into me going to see RJ or me going to see young thug or me going to CYG. I gotta pay for parking, get an outfit. I gotta get tickets. I gotta pay for tickets. I gotta get a babysitter. Like, just all the shit that people gotta do just to come see you. [01:07:43] Speaker B: Do what you do. I just thought of something. Damn. I just thought of something that'd be dope. If I add on free parking, pay. [01:07:53] Speaker A: For the parking, that'll be fire. They gotta show proof of a ticket, though. [01:07:59] Speaker B: Got to, gotta show proof of ticket. That's fire. [01:08:02] Speaker A: That's fire. Damn, man. That's it right there. [01:08:06] Speaker B: That's fire. [01:08:07] Speaker A: You be a worldwide hero. Free market. Nah. But, like, in all seriousness, though, thank you. I always tell you that. But thank you for always including me. [01:08:22] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [01:08:23] Speaker A: And thank you for always allowing me to be myself. [01:08:28] Speaker B: And then another thing, too, I wanna say this shoe for the people, too. Like, bro, don't hold itself to you. Don't hold yourself to be this west coast coast guard. You don't hold yourself to do that. I wanna get that. You know what I'm saying? Get that out there, too. You know what I'm saying? Cause I feel like you put in a lot of work and you just. You do what you supposed to do, you feel me? To get here, you know what I mean? And you give your raw, honest opinion. Feel me? You give your raw, honest opinion, and that's what I admire. When I came to you with Amio three and you told me, yo, gave me your raw, honest opinion from that day forward, that's when I knew, like, nigga, I fuck with you like, I fuck with you. Because, nigga, everybody like, niggas fuck with me for sure. But that time right there, you said some real n shit. And I was like, damn, you like, where's the woot woo woo woo woo. I'm like, ooh, okay. For sure. That's what. And I didn't have flex yet. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Didn't have flex yet. [01:09:40] Speaker B: I didn't have flex yet. And that's when I'm like, all right, Bethe. [01:09:44] Speaker A: Wait, so you wouldn't have made flex after we had that conversation? [01:09:46] Speaker B: Yeah, because let me tell you why. [01:09:48] Speaker A: I never knew that. [01:09:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't have flex because flex mustard originally did the beat. [01:09:56] Speaker A: What? [01:09:58] Speaker B: Mustard originally did that beat. And his producer at the time that he made the beat with nigga was tripping, right? It was just tripping and martial art shit. Nothing I could do. So, nigga, I'm like, fuck it. About to remake that motherfucker. That's why I didn't let you hear it. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Oh, shit. [01:10:26] Speaker B: Larry remade the beat. Larry and authentic remade that beat. [01:10:33] Speaker A: What? I didn't know you made that after we had that conversation. [01:10:36] Speaker B: No, captain. And that's what. And that was. [01:10:39] Speaker A: That was one of them ones. [01:10:40] Speaker B: That was one of them ones. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. [01:10:43] Speaker A: That's crazy. [01:10:44] Speaker B: Not for sure. For sure. That we didn't have. [01:10:46] Speaker A: I didn't find out we had the. [01:10:47] Speaker B: Song, but we couldn't do nothing with it because we didn't own the beat. [01:10:51] Speaker A: I didn't find out. Nip made last time that I checked, after I had the same conversation with him. And I didn't know that till Mike and keys told me? [01:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:59] Speaker A: Nip went and made. We had to. This conversation I had with you about Amio three is a conversation I had with nip about victory LAPD. And he went and made. Last time that I checked, after that conversation, I didn't know that about flex. [01:11:09] Speaker B: No. [01:11:09] Speaker A: Oh, my. That's crazy. [01:11:11] Speaker B: No, you know what I'm saying? Yo, but that shit last minute, that motherfucker was banging. We like, God damn, this shit crazy. Larry. You think? What's wrong with you? [01:11:20] Speaker A: Before we wrap, I want to give Larry J his props, bro. [01:11:23] Speaker B: For sure. [01:11:23] Speaker A: Larry J is one of the greats out here. And if you from anywhere else and you don't, you not tapped in with Larry J. You sleep like, go get you some Larry J. Because this big LA production is next level. [01:11:36] Speaker B: It's production, production, production. [01:11:39] Speaker A: That's why I said it like that. It's not beats. It's production for sure. And Larry is one of them ones, man. So rest in peace to 89, too. But rest in peace. [01:11:48] Speaker B: 89 for sure. Damn. [01:11:52] Speaker A: But anyway, thank you again. Thank you for always including me. Always trusted my opinion. Always still inviting me to the studio, you know what I'm saying? [01:12:02] Speaker B: Even after I kicked him out. Yeah, fuck out of here, nigga. [01:12:04] Speaker A: Hey, you know what? It's you and school boy Q. The only two people ever kicked me out of the studio. [01:12:11] Speaker B: Hey, man, you gotta go. [01:12:12] Speaker A: You gotta get up out of here. [01:12:15] Speaker B: I don't like what I'm hearing right now, niggas. But, nigga, man, I sat there and I was like, snake a tripping, bro. Damn. Sneak a tripping. Yeah, the niggas in the studio, I might tripping. Yeah, shit, do it is hard. But you do kind of got a point. Now you tell me this nigga got a point. Like, you want to make this thing right? I'm just listening. Like, damn, listen to the song. Listening. I'm like, damn, we need a banger. We did a slapper and nigga shit. The funny shit we made, the flex been made, nigga was like, made. Like, maybe like a year before that. It was a year before that time. You know what I'm saying? But the producer was tripping. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Producer was tripping. We made that motherfucker put that shit on there, nigga. And it was like, okay, bet. [01:13:02] Speaker A: Big la date. [01:13:06] Speaker B: July 12. [01:13:07] Speaker A: Big La, July 12. [01:13:09] Speaker B: July 12. [01:13:09] Speaker A: And if you watching this after July 12, go get big La. I personally think that it might be. I don't know. I'm not. I haven't listened to it let's just. Let me. I'm awake. I'm awake. [01:13:20] Speaker B: All right, let's let the summer tell it. [01:13:22] Speaker A: I'm awake. I'm awake. I'm awake. But the palladium, September 14. September 14. [01:13:29] Speaker B: That's actually my homie birthday. Shout out hustle man, the show rocker. [01:13:32] Speaker A: Oh, shout out to hustle man. [01:13:33] Speaker B: Yeah. That's my boy. [01:13:33] Speaker A: Birthday, September 14, RJ at the Palladium, his first headlining show. [01:13:38] Speaker B: Big La. [01:13:39] Speaker A: Nah, 4000 strong. Tap in, man. Thank you again, bro. [01:13:44] Speaker B: Humble, man. I mean, I'm saying humbling, humble experience, man. Just to be around there and this long. You know what I'm saying? Just to be here this long and steel. [01:13:53] Speaker A: You a veteran at this point? [01:13:54] Speaker B: Most definitely. I'm OG. [01:13:56] Speaker A: Not OG. A veteran. [01:13:57] Speaker B: Oig. [01:13:59] Speaker A: Okay, cool. Big la, palladium, Hollywood. So it's gonna be sellout. So make sure you, I mean, tap in early. And RJ promised free parking. I don't know how you gonna pull it. [01:14:08] Speaker B: He didn't. He didn't promise, but I said that it's a good idea. I might got free parking for, like, 20 of y'all. [01:14:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:14:14] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? [01:14:15] Speaker A: But we gonna. I'm gonna try to get some tickets out of them to give away on the show. It's dj head RJ Mister La, effective immediately. West Coast.