Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, Hip Hop Nation? It's your favorite homegirl, Ginaviews.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: Special guest in the building today, one of my dogs, man. All the way from the other side, but never a stranger to the city.
Ladies and gentlemen, Davies.
[00:00:16] Speaker C: Yo, yo, what's goody?
[00:00:17] Speaker A: Yes, sir, man.
[00:00:18] Speaker C: My dog. What's up, baby?
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Welcome to the new show, bro.
[00:00:20] Speaker C: Yeah, welcome.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Glad to be here.
[00:00:22] Speaker C: The new dig. Appreciate y' all having me.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: You really like la, nigga?
[00:00:25] Speaker C: Like I keep hearing that you are. I love la.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: You. You said my little LA bitch had me eating In N Out for weeks.
What's the order? What you get it for?
[00:00:36] Speaker A: You got the In N Out order.
[00:00:37] Speaker C: In N Out. I don't really. You know, this is a different burger to me, I think. I don't know if it's the sauce. What's that? That's animal special sauce.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: Oh, animal style.
[00:00:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I like it, but I'm not really like a big fast food. LA got food like New York to me. Like, it's certain spots that's like home cooked.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: What's your go to spot?
[00:00:55] Speaker C: Tracy's.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: I ain't never even been to Tracy's. Tracy's out here.
[00:00:58] Speaker C: It's in the 30s. Yeah.
Belizean spot.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. I don't go over there.
I'm like 70 blocks down.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: That's where I be.
[00:01:07] Speaker B: I'm 70 blocks down. I'm in 1/ hundreds.
[00:01:10] Speaker C: That's how I gonna get my food over there.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah, welcome. Welcome back, though.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: You had Marathon yet?
[00:01:15] Speaker C: No, I'm going after this.
As soon as I leave here, I'm going right. Right over there immediately.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: You gonna get back there and flip.
[00:01:21] Speaker C: Yeah, I see. That's what everybody doing.
[00:01:23] Speaker A: Get the tiger shrimp.
[00:01:25] Speaker C: Fire. How? The wings. I see all that chicken.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah. No land animals.
[00:01:30] Speaker B: Okay, but get the tiger shrimp. But you gotta get. You have to get it saturated in Buffalo sauce.
[00:01:37] Speaker A: That's some Big Back shit she be on.
[00:01:39] Speaker C: Remember that? Dang.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: You don't have to do that.
[00:01:40] Speaker C: No, you have to saturate the shrimp in the Buffalo sauce.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Buffalo sauce. That's the side, though.
[00:01:45] Speaker C: Oh, that's just on the side.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: That's just on the side.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: On the side of the.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Then you gotta get the Marathon burger.
[00:01:49] Speaker C: But the og. The og. That's the name of it. Yeah, the og all right, bet. But keep that in mind.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: You've been on the road, bro.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: With the blue lemonade.
[00:01:57] Speaker C: With the blue one. Yeah. Definitely gotta do the blue one.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: Niggas is gonna need.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: We was up there before it even opened.
[00:02:07] Speaker C: Everybody remember this menu. They, they, you know what I'm saying? We going right over there. I'm about to ask for all that.
[00:02:13] Speaker A: But no, congrats, bro. You've been on the road. Like I've been seeing. I've been seeing you doing your thing. Like, I see you got kids at the show. I seen. Was it a 12 year old you brought up?
[00:02:21] Speaker C: Yeah, he came out with his dad.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Was that in Kansas or was it.
[00:02:24] Speaker C: Topeka, Kansas, on the Brass? That was one.
I don't want to get it wrong, but it was in that area. But I'm looking at the crowd, you know what I'm saying? Regular, you know what I mean, performing. And I see like a. I'm like, I thought it was a midget, to be honest.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: You can't say that no more. East, you gotta say little person.
They took that one away too.
[00:02:41] Speaker C: They cancel it.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: They take all the way, all the words.
[00:02:43] Speaker C: Okay? No disrespect. I thought it was a little person.
And I look, I'm like, his face, he had no hair on his face. Like, I'm like, this is a kid, bro. I'm like, yo, grab him, put him on stage. Ask him, how old are you? He like 12. I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, what you doing in here? Like, he was with his dad. I think his uncle was there. So that was dope. He knew all my music. Really, at 12, I'm like, I've been rapping longer than you've been living. Like, that was dope.
[00:03:06] Speaker A: The reason I brought that up, because that gotta be kinda like a mind fuck, you know what I'm saying? Because I know that you've been around music your whole life. I remember you saying that your mom's. You grew up, your mom's doing laundry to music 100% and stuff like that. So seeing the next generation embrace your music, does that kind of take you back to a space where you was that kid? Did you have a moment like that at the show?
[00:03:29] Speaker C: No.
I even said that to him. I said, yo, at 12 years old, I was not at no concerts. You was the Knuckleheads, you know what I'm saying? I just wasn't.
My parents wasn't into rap, so I definitely wasn't gonna be in no hip hop show. But it just showed me how, you know, how the generational, how it changes. And for that kid to be 12 and really he was rapping my shit word for word, bro. So that was like, I know your dad probably playing It. But you really fucking with it, you know what I'm saying? Like, to be 12 and be that. You know what I mean? Most kids is riding bikes or robloxing or whatever they doing.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: It stayed with me because that was dope. My mom had told me that one of my uncles, he used to.
I was rapping Eazy, E when I was five or some shit like that. I'm cruising. Like, I was just rapping shit when I was a kid.
[00:04:14] Speaker C: That's fire.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: And so my mom wasn't that happy.
[00:04:17] Speaker C: Shit be destiny, though. See, look what you. Your life is hip hop.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: True.
[00:04:21] Speaker C: You get what I'm saying? So, like, a lot of times at that age, you get to see what that person's destiny might be like, you know what I'm saying? That kid was. He knew all my shit. I know grown men can't rap my shit back. He was 12, rapping that shit back to me. So that was fire.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: My question is, what initially got you into rap? Like, what initially got you into hip hop?
[00:04:39] Speaker C: I always loved it.
My cousin Chester, if I had to pick one person, and my cousin Donald. But they like my older bros, you know what I'm saying? Like, so in the 90s, they was a part of that, like, you know what I'm saying? Terror Squad, Rough Riders, yeah, all of that. Like, early Rockefeller, like, you know what I'm saying? So I was always hearing that with them. But then my moms and my pops was playing Motown and classic, you know what I'm saying? All that type of shit.
But I fell in love with it. Yeah. I would say probably like 98, 99.
And I could. Like, when I could see Mason, Harlem, I could see Cam. I would see them like they was around, you know what I'm saying? I would be. Oh. So I could put two together, like, oh, damn. You know what I mean? So that's what I think. I really fell in love with it. But I was playing ball.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Was it the music or was it the style?
[00:05:32] Speaker C: The music, of course. But it was just the.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: They was the niggas.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: The attraction, the attention they caught, like, you know what I'm saying? You see Mason on 25th Street? That stopped traffic, you know what I'm saying? As a kid, I'm seeing that he hopping out and everybody going crazy like, damn.
So that, like, the only thing I had new besides that was NBA players would get that type of. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's when I really caught. I put in my mind then, like, maybe that's something I could do. I still was on my basketball shit heavy, you know what I'm saying? Until I couldn't do that no more.
But at that time, I felt like, yo, I might could do that rap shit. That shit, look. You know what I'm saying? That look cool.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Was basketball the initial goal?
[00:06:09] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%. You see, I took. I'm six five D one. I wasn't trying to rap. That wasn't my. I was. I never thought I'd be no rapper.
[00:06:16] Speaker B: Who you wanted to play for?
[00:06:17] Speaker C: Whoever.
College or NBA?
[00:06:21] Speaker B: Both.
[00:06:22] Speaker C: College. I wanted to go to Duke.
[00:06:24] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:06:24] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? Or like, Unc or like, just one of them elite, you know what I mean? That's always in the final four of them, you know what I mean? I wanted to go to one of them. Like, I think every kid that played ball wanted to go to one of them top schools. I ended up going to University of Richmond in Virginia. I got kicked out of there. Then I went to a school called Towson in Baltimore. And then my life shifted, you know what I'm saying? Away from ball.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: Is it true that, like.
I know it's a thing with Boston in New York, especially this last week or this morning, Knicks. But listen, in five. But just hold on. But listen, is there a thing. Is that same thing with Baltimore niggas and with niggas from Baltimore or Maryland niggas and New York niggas? Is that the same type of deal? Boston and New York and Maryland and New York.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: I think all of that is, like, a competitive area.
Philly B Mall, New York, Jersey. All of that is like.
Cause they so close. It's like pride, you know what I mean? Like, Cali. Y' all got mad.
I got. From what? What's above y'? All?
[00:07:29] Speaker A: The bay. All right. Oh, right above us. Oh, the state. Oregon, Washington.
[00:07:34] Speaker C: Oregon is the next state. Or Washington, Oregon.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: I think it's Oregon to Mexico.
[00:07:38] Speaker C: Yeah, that's y'.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: All.
[00:07:39] Speaker C: Yeah, New York. That shit is like, DC 30 minutes up. Baltimore an hour up. Philly. Gotcha another hour. Jersey another hour. New York, like, you know what I mean? So it's always like. And we all got sports teams. We all got different styles. We all got different accents. We all. I mean, that shit is like. It's always that.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: When you look at the hoods and watts. I remember Glasses always used to tell me, I'd be like, nigga. He's like, look, cuz, you driving one street. It's 30 hoods before you get to the Next. You know, that's kind of what you describe it.
[00:08:08] Speaker C: That's what it is. And even. And then if you break that down, you got hoods within Bmore, you got hoods within D.C. you got hoods within Philly, you got South Philly, North Philly, West Philly. Yeah, you get the New York. You got Harlem, the Bronx, Brooklyn. So it's mad. It's a lot. It's a lot. There's a lot of competition, and our side is better than y' all side type shit going on. Yeah, a lot of that.
[00:08:29] Speaker B: You. You signed your deal 10 years ago.
[00:08:32] Speaker C: Damn.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Congratulations.
[00:08:35] Speaker C: That's fire. That's fire.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: You can. You can. You can smell your flowers.
[00:08:38] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: You know, so, congratulations. I remember when that first album dropped. Thank you. What's the journey been? Like.
[00:08:48] Speaker C: Six Flags? Like, it's been a roller coaster. I'm gonna keep it real. A lot of good, a lot of bad.
Just me really, just trying to balance it all out and figuring out how to, you know, recover after shit. I feel like it been like a boxing match, you know what I'm saying? Like, I gotta figure out how I'm gonna swing, and I gotta figure out how I'm gonna take a punch, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's how the journey been, but overall, I'm blessed. My kids don't want for nothing. My mom's is good. My pops is good.
I'm still getting to do the shit I love to do. I'm still traveling, touring.
Yeah, it's dope.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: You have those. You have a special skill set because you have, like, you have a skill that the battle rappers have where you can talk to a specific subject or talk about a specific subject or talk to a person directly. You have to try Keisha. You gotta try Corey Barbara, right?
Have you ever considered getting into battle rap?
[00:09:50] Speaker C: Battle rapping?
[00:09:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:52] Speaker C: Nah, I love it. I'm a big fan of that. I got a lot of friends that's like the elite niggas in that.
That I've known for years, but I don't think I have the.
I could, but I just don't have the energy to invest that much time into the next nigga. Like, I think you gotta.
I think you gotta really do your homework on this nigga you about to battle.
You gotta really, you know what I'm saying? And I love it.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: I'm a lot of energy on this nigga, right?
[00:10:19] Speaker C: When I do them records, it's about my aunt, a home. Like, I'm talking about people that you mean shit that's already in my life. Like, that I really feel like the next person can relate to. Cause they got an aunt that passed, or they got a homie that hate it, or they got a newborn child.
But to really sit and be like, yo, what school that nigga went to?
[00:10:39] Speaker A: Yeah, find all the info you could.
[00:10:42] Speaker C: Get on that nigga. Man, I got four or five niggas googling it.
Cause you gotta have. That's the only thing that makes that worthwhile is when you uncovering shit about that person that the crowd might not know.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: That nigga had a dad.
[00:10:53] Speaker C: So when you do that, it's like, oh, word.
He's a rat. He's this, he's that.
I don't have the energy to do that for the next man. Like, I salute them niggas a thousand percent. Cause that's really a talent that everybody don't got. A lot of n don't have that. You know what I mean? And to remember it and to be able to play off the crowd, you know what I mean? That's a super talent, and I always salute it. But me personally, I feel like I got other things I can invest my time in and talk about, you know what I'm saying? As far as just what I just.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Me, I kind of. I just was saying I kind of knew the answer to that. Because you want me to battle somebody back to back. No, I mean, you a fab kind.
[00:11:32] Speaker C: Of be going back and forth like that.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: I like sparring.
[00:11:35] Speaker C: Sparring. But I remember with niggas that I looked up to, niggas that inspired me. I like to get on songs, styles, kids, all of them. Like, people that inspired me to be who I am. Like, I love to get on the record with them, knowing I. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be one of them barbershop convos.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Hey, you better write some shit.
[00:11:51] Speaker C: I gotta talk, you know what I'm saying? This nigga been talking for the last 20 years. Like, I'm the new one. So I love that.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: I remember.
[00:11:58] Speaker C: I love that part of it.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: When you said it, though, you said, what you say? I don't go back and forth. Ain't no battle rap or something like that.
[00:12:04] Speaker C: You said, safari Max in the jungle, match with the habitat.
I like. But I know fab going to talk.
I know certain people, when they send me the beat or I'm in the lab with them, it's like, all right, we can smoke, drink, enjoy life, all that. But I know once we go in that Booth, this nigga about to talk.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Is it ever any pressure with Fab?
[00:12:25] Speaker C: Nah. I feel like I'm such a fan of his craft and just how he's done it for so long, it put me in another pocket. So it really don't be the pressure. Just be more like.
You know what I mean? Let me make sure my shit hit is like. I know he gonna talk. Like, certainly.
It's like, ball. You know what I mean? If certain people, you know, they've been consistent in the league 20 years, if you go in the gym with them, they go on certain shit, they just gonna do, hell, yeah. You get what I'm saying?
[00:12:51] Speaker A: Yup.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: It seemed like for a minute, like y' all was doing a lot of stuff together.
[00:12:56] Speaker C: Yeah, that's big, bro. He's somebody that really embraced me early on. Coming in the game.
Yeah, fabulously. I mean, our kids is cool shit like that.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: How much unreleased music y' all have together?
[00:13:08] Speaker C: Probably a tape.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: Where to tape?
[00:13:11] Speaker C: Probably a tape. I got a few unreleased projects for n that I ain't. I ain't did where to tape. I feel like everything is timing, you know what I mean? I feel like it's.
I'm busy, he busy. He got shit going on. I feel like that goes. That happens a lot with this, you know what I'm saying? Like, we might have them two, three weeks off when we both in the city and we locked in.
And then from then it's like, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. So we really don't have the time to sit and formulate the project and shit, but we got mad music, bro.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: You've been collabing a lot. You know what I'm saying?
[00:13:42] Speaker B: Ransom project.
[00:13:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:44] Speaker C: Duffel. My dog ran. Ran. He wanted to Ellis in this shit, bro.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: Like, for real. Is that so? It seemed like. Cause you fully indie. Are you fully independent? Yeah, I'm indie Now you fully indie. So it seemed like you been wanting.
[00:13:56] Speaker C: To scratch the dirt. It's me.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: Scratch this itch for a long time where you could just drop.
[00:14:00] Speaker C: You could collab, you know, that been like. That was my, like. And I don't know if y' all gonna ask me this, but that was really my biggest, like, gripe.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:09] Speaker C: I already know I couldn't put music out how I wanted to, like. And I've been consistently dropping over the years, but, like, I really be, like, working. I'm really like a studio.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I live in that shit, so. And I'm always doing this, doing that, working with this one, getting this feature, sending the feature back. Like, I'm always doing that. And when you gotta do all of that and then figure out, all right, I'm gonna put out one tape this year. That's tough.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: Like, you know what I'm saying, is that. Cause obviously now that you in control of your own frequency and you able to drop and collab and do all that, is that something. Is there something that you do miss about the major label structure now that everything is on you?
[00:14:51] Speaker C: What do I miss about that? I would say.
I really don't know. I would say just it seemed like.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: A team got you, so you have an infrastructure.
[00:15:04] Speaker C: So I'm talking to the radio guy, I'm talking to the marketing guy. I'm like, I got just more people on my line about my project.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: Touche.
[00:15:10] Speaker C: You get what I'm saying? But then when it really come down to it, what y' all doing with my project, you know what I mean? So it was like smoking mirrors. And I don't knock it. Like, I respect and I appreciate my time on Mass Appeal and Def Jam. Like, that was life changing. I moved out the projects.
I was. You know what I mean? That was something that really switched my whole landscape of my life. But I was over there for 10 years under that, you know what I mean? I gotta. Yo, y' all like this song or do you. Nah, I think we need to go with. I don't have to deal with that no more. I could. Whatever I like, whatever I'm feeling like is what we need to do. I sit with two or three people, and we all come to one agreement, and we roll with it from your perspective, and then we move on to the next one.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: From your perspective, is a major label deal a trap? Cause a lot of people look at it like it's just a big loan.
[00:15:56] Speaker C: It depend on the artist. I think every label deal is based on the type of artist you are. Some artists thrive on the label, you know what I mean? Some artists never have nothing bad ever to say about a label. But then you got other artists that wasn't the fit for them. And sometimes it takes you traveling and, you know, it take years sometimes to see that ain't my fit out the gate. When you broke out, coming out the hood, is everybody fit? Like, what? Let's do that. Like. But once you there, you. I mean, once money ain't the problem no more. I feel like when money was a problem, I was ready to come on, I need help. But once I was like, I got money coming in, like, then I started to see shit for what it was, you know what I'm saying?
[00:16:39] Speaker A: What about, like, so there's also been a conversation around, like, financial literacy and, like, life insurance and health insurance. Is that something that you think the label should start to implement?
[00:16:50] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. You see how rappers is dying.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:16:53] Speaker C: We making y' all all this money. Why you ain't setting that up for a nigga.
They should be setting up dental plans, all kind of shit for the money that's coming in off the artist. That artist should look like gold, and that should be off the label, like, you know what I'm saying? But that's another conversation.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Is that something you already knew, like, going into it, like you already had that stuff set up, or is that something you had to learn the hard way?
[00:17:14] Speaker C: I was. I ain't gonna front. I just got life insurance. Like, recently, like, I've been thinking about that.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: I never, like, this year or like.
[00:17:23] Speaker C: Last year, like, in the last couple years.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: Gotcha.
[00:17:25] Speaker C: I always felt like when I did that, I'm telling the universe I'm ready to die.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: You know what I mean?
[00:17:31] Speaker C: So that always scared me. Like, life insurance in case something happened to me. It's smart. I got children. I got. I get it. But it was like, I ain't ready to go yet. Like, facts. I still got a lot more shit to do, a lot more life to live. So I was always kind of.
You know what I mean? I'm a big universe and what you put into the world type of person.
So I always was like, damn, I'm doing that right now, and I'm just starting, you know what I mean? But I could get hit by a fucking bus, God forbid. And I got kids, like, you know what I mean? So it makes total sense.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Got you.
[00:17:57] Speaker C: But it just wasn't something that I was excited or hyped to go get, you know what I mean?
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Got you.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: Last year, you basically dropped an R and B project.
[00:18:06] Speaker C: What joint?
[00:18:07] Speaker A: Basically?
[00:18:09] Speaker B: Which I was so happy. Cause you don't normally do, like, the R and B records.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: I'm glad you tapped into that. That's fire.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: It was.
What's the one you did in 2016 when you had the In n out, what, a year when you rapped over to d'? Angelo?
Yeah. And I loved when you did that. So when I came across this one, I loved it.
[00:18:27] Speaker C: I love that music.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Genius.
[00:18:28] Speaker C: Yeah, that's my favorite. Honestly, I like that more than the hard hip hop shit.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: Why don't you make more Girl records.
[00:18:35] Speaker C: I don't have an answer for that, to be honest with you.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Like, the homie is like, that's what the fuck I've been talking about.
[00:18:40] Speaker B: That's what y' all been saying.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Look at that, bro. What the fuck?
[00:18:48] Speaker C: I'm slowly but surely, like, focusing a little shift in it. I feel like I've given, like, little bits and pieces that I could do that over my career, like. But, yeah, I haven't really just locked into that.
[00:19:03] Speaker B: We wanna hear them rough New York accents on R and B beats.
[00:19:07] Speaker C: See, sometimes I gotta get outta New York and hear that. Yeah, I got you.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: I'm about to bust her out.
Her king is a New York nigga and she's a LA nigga. Like, you know what I'm saying? But she loves y' all accent.
[00:19:19] Speaker C: It's the opposite.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: And all y' all like little.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[00:19:22] Speaker A: You know, all the little fashion and all that kind of, you know, out here, we in sweats, right? You saying you.
[00:19:26] Speaker C: You got a lot of niggas throwing off. I see couple. No, they don't.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: No, they don't.
[00:19:30] Speaker A: Don't do that. No, we don't.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: They broke. They don't spend on money.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: We not spending no money.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: Take me to the East Coast.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: Facts.
[00:19:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: I need to hear Fix your face.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: But to her point, though, bro, I have heard that that's been a very. That's. That has been a criticism of yours over the years. It's like, east don't fuck with us. He don't fuck. He don't fuck with us.
[00:19:50] Speaker C: I love women, man. Is you crazy?
[00:19:52] Speaker A: No, I know, but I'm just saying, like, in the art, like, I think you should fool, like, if they.
[00:19:58] Speaker C: Bro, all my favorite. A lot of my favorites did that. And I. You know what I mean? Like, I get it. Like, I watched Fab.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: Oh, he ran them up.
[00:20:06] Speaker C: He shifted his whole. You know what I mean? I watched a lot of people do that and always just have those.
I feel like with me, for. For the longest, I was trying to prove that I was like, one of them as far as rap. You get what I mean? Like. Cause I'm coming from New York, you gotta think about who's from New York with rap. Like, so I was always. Nah, they gotta know I could rap these. I could rap my ass off. Everybody, they know, bro, when you see me, I'm one of them. I could. You know what I mean? But then I sit back and the majority of my fans is women.
Yeah. And it ain't got Nothing to do with the rap, you get what I'm saying? That's the crazy part. Like it might half and half like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's happening. So it's almost like I would be the fool to not do that.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: But this is how I look at it, bro. It's just like if somebody, if somebody.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: We the trailblazers, we tell the streets what's hot.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: If somebody, if somebody come to the hood and they wanna spend some money with you, let them spend some money with you. The ladies wanna, they wanna fuck with you, Let em fuck with you.
[00:21:02] Speaker C: I got you. I got you.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: You feel me?
[00:21:04] Speaker C: I got you.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: With that not being your norm would even inspired that project.
[00:21:08] Speaker C: I love that music. So all of those records that I rapped over, those is like in my playlist type shit, you know what I'm saying? So shouts to Scram Jones, my brother Scram is dope. Scram is retarded.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: That's the producer.
[00:21:21] Speaker C: He recorded it, mixed it, he put it together. He actually did one of my first mixtapes straight out of Harlem early, early on. Me and Scram been locked in over a decade. But I sat with him and I was like, yo, Valentine's is coming up. Let's do something for the ladies, you know what I'm saying? Like everything we talking about right now, I had that thought. But I was like, let's do a whole project like that. And I don't want to have to find original beats and all that. Let's just take some of them classics that they play at them cookouts.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: The way you did it is better.
[00:21:51] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? And let me rap over them. Let's mix that up, you know what I'm saying? See what that do? And that was dope. I took Martin is one of my favorite shows. I took the Martin skits, you know what I mean? But I'm from that era, I'm from that type of that cloth, so I could do that. It's not like I can't. It's just more like I need to just, you know what I mean? Keep that in my focus when I'm putting projects out.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: Well, when you do for the Love two, I know you a name dropper. So just drop Gina.
[00:22:19] Speaker C: I got it.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: Just drop Gina.
[00:22:21] Speaker A: Just drop some vain shit up. Just put my name in the record.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: Yeah, just put my name in, put.
[00:22:25] Speaker C: My name on the joint and we good. That's coming probably this summer. We was gonna do it Valentine's again, but I was working On a project with Ransom.
It was other things going on, but probably this summer I'm gonna drop the part two.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: Okay? Record it in LA.
[00:22:40] Speaker C: We already like eight, nine joints in.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: Oh, it's already a 40 love two coming.
[00:22:46] Speaker C: I already been recording that.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Go re record the song.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: Yeah, re record the record and put my name in it.
[00:22:52] Speaker C: Do that one I got you. Yeah.
[00:22:54] Speaker A: Fuck paying for the studio time and all that. Just re record the record real quick.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: She's Gina, right? Gina, I got you.
[00:23:01] Speaker A: I know Nas is your favorite rapper growing up, but on this, what Gina's talking about, who's your favorite, like, R B singer?
[00:23:09] Speaker C: My favorite R B singer. I've never been asked that before.
I can't pick one.
[00:23:15] Speaker B: What's your favorite R B era?
[00:23:17] Speaker C: Era?
[00:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: Like, total.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: So, like the 90s.
[00:23:23] Speaker C: Like, like, like I like that era.
And I like, like.
It's so much R B. It's so. That's. That's so hard of a question, bro. Cause it's like I don't even know what era certain songs was made in. Like. Yeah, I just know the. I know the song, you know the record. I mean, I know the record, the artist, shit like that. But I would say from the 70s to the 90s.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: What about a Mount Rushmore?
[00:23:49] Speaker C: Mount Rushmore of R and B?
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:54] Speaker C: Damn.
All right, I could do that.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: Now remember, your mom's is playing these.
[00:23:58] Speaker C: Records I got you.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: All right, go ahead.
[00:24:00] Speaker C: I could do that. My mount. My Mount Rushmore. R B. I would go Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder.
They get tough after them too.
Mike, Stevie.
Can I do groups? Yeah, I could put. I could put a group in that list too.
Mike Stevie.
Damn.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: Yo, voice of me.
[00:24:41] Speaker C: I was about to say Jodeci.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:24:43] Speaker C: But boy, stem, man, my list, I'm gonna go Jodeci.
[00:24:47] Speaker B: Jodeci for sure.
[00:24:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: One more.
[00:24:51] Speaker C: Damn, this is ain't never been axed.
And I really be knocking all this shit.
Let me think.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: It's funny you even said Michael Jackson. Cause I started a whole Twitter war.
[00:25:06] Speaker C: Micah's R and B, right? Hell yeah.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: But people was arguing about that.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a thing that R and B.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: It was a Twitter war about it, like, two weeks ago.
[00:25:13] Speaker C: So what is he?
What was Mike?
[00:25:15] Speaker A: King of Pop. King of Pop.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: But he got some R and B joints.
[00:25:18] Speaker A: But he's R like, King of Pop. Well, that's what he's called. He's the King of Pop. But here's the thing. People misuse that word. Cause pop is just short for popular. And any Music that's popular.
[00:25:29] Speaker C: It's pop music though.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: That's like top 10 now. It's been appropriated by Caucasians.
[00:25:33] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: But the initial way to look at it is popular music. If Davies is pop, I mean it's popular. Then he would be popular.
[00:25:39] Speaker C: He would be pop. Oh yeah, exactly. Okay.
[00:25:41] Speaker A: So that's the origin of it. But it has been co opted by.
[00:25:45] Speaker C: Okay, I get it.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? By the mainstream type shit.
[00:25:47] Speaker C: So I get it. What I got. I got one more.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: You got one more.
[00:25:50] Speaker C: Damn.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: Just throw a name out there so I can cut the clip up and you can piss people off on Tik Tok.
[00:25:57] Speaker C: I know they going to be mad how you put. How you leave this one on? Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: You left off B. Queen B. Like you left off Aretha.
[00:26:05] Speaker C: Nigga, like you kill for them. Yeah, no, no, B. Slander.
Damn. One more.
I love Evelyn Champagne King.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:18] Speaker C: Yeah. I love her music. I'm a big fan of her music.
She got a lot of. A lot of her music was sampled. A lot of y' all favorite songs are sampled by her. Well, her music was sampled for them songs and you don't even know. I mean you gotta. I love her music as well.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: You gotta skit on Eyes on me. Where? The dude called, he said, uh huh. He said, I think y' all sampled Donnell Jones.
[00:26:42] Speaker C: Donnell, yeah. Damn. See, that's another name. Donnell Jones.
Where you at? I gotta get. Yeah, Donnell like. See I like these questions. Cause I feel like if they still around, I could like, yeah, yeah. Where you at though?
[00:26:54] Speaker A: Hey, where you at? Jump over.
[00:26:55] Speaker B: Did he tap in when you even dropped that?
[00:26:58] Speaker C: Nah, I haven't, I never. I haven't been in no contact with Donnell Jones. I've worked with music. Soul Child, big shout outs to music.
I've worked with Anthony Hamilton. Big shout out to Anthony Hamilton. I've worked with Marsha and Brosha's from Flowetry.
I love R and B. Like that's really something that I always want to keep a part of my what I got going on. But I feel like a lot of the RB records I did like or sound or the artist that was an R and B artist that I featured. It wasn't a girl record like Marsha. I did a song called Grateful and I'm talking about what I'm grateful for. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of them songs or them features I got, I didn't say, yo, let's do a female record.
I said, let's do some Real life shit, like, you know what I mean? But I be needing to hear that. Cause that's now. That's on my mind. Yo, we gonna do some female joints tonight when we go to Call T. Call. Call them. You know who to call, man. Call them, call them, call them, call them, call them. And we gonna. Yeah, we gonna put a pack together tonight, man.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: The skit on that song, though, is when the dude call you and he like, I found your number. You fucking my bitch. Da da da da. Is that a scenario that you've ever experienced? For real? I think he said he was in jail and they would talk about you.
[00:28:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I' that wasn't a direct situation.
I grew up in a skit era where everybody albums. Like, the dopest albums had skits, you know what I'm saying? I remember punting, fucking and all that on the skits. It was just a bunch of shit that made you feel like you was with them niggas, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but yeah, hell yeah. I went through men reaching out to me behind.
[00:28:28] Speaker B: They coming to you as a man.
[00:28:30] Speaker C: Don't come to me as no man.
That's the last thing you want to do.
Not about no woman.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: What's your energy? For real? Like, I know on the thing you.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: Bro, I'm coming to you like, as a real. Like. I'm just. I'm just saying I don't want to hear that. What's up with you and Gina?
[00:28:44] Speaker C: My like, you gotta like, even in anybody's situation. So y' all talk to the woman man. A man is a man. Like, you know what I'm saying? You can't never be mad at the dude, which most 90% of the time, that's who they mad at.
But that's. You know what I mean?
Check her.
See what she.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: Check that hoe.
[00:29:03] Speaker A: As a fan request for me is I wanted like, Gina wanna hear that.
[00:29:08] Speaker C: That.
[00:29:08] Speaker A: That from you. I want to hear you a more soulful. Like, I know you like proving you could rap, but like the superstar freestyle, like. Like that. That box that, like to me, that one. And then also randomly, the. The east mixes randomly the one, the one you did. What's the drill type. Hell was it? Hell no.
It's like.
[00:29:30] Speaker C: No with papa.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: Like little stuff like popping the dogs, cracking, nigga. I like to see little.
I'm a Marvel fan. So it's variants. I like to see variants of Dave east, like different layers and shit like that. Like, I want to see some of that. Oh, speaking of which, why did you never jump on the drill train like on the drill train?
[00:29:48] Speaker C: I feel like I'm older than the drill train.
Got you not to knock it. I love it. I love what is what is. I love it and hate it. Cause I got people that really die from it.
But, yeah, I respect any way a young nigga could get to some money legally. So if that's the legal way to get it. You know what I mean? I just wish they would stop, you know what I mean? Like, dissing the dead.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: I feel that.
[00:30:10] Speaker C: Cause that's gonna always create problems.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: Well, there's Sexy Drill now, apparently.
[00:30:13] Speaker C: That's fire, Cash Cobain, and all of that. That's fire. I like that, too. That's like. I respect the youth. I respect any sound that the youngest is coming with. But I just never thought the way I rap, I could rap on them beats. I did a few little drill shits here and there, but that's just not my sound. I feel that I'm not dancing.
Not to say all that.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: Have you ever danced?
[00:30:34] Speaker C: No, I'm not a dancer.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: When's the last time you danced? Never in life.
[00:30:38] Speaker C: At weddings and shit. My mom's too.
[00:30:39] Speaker A: Stuff, you know what I mean?
[00:30:40] Speaker C: Like, Southern spot. You know what I mean, Get a little crazy. But I ain't know. I don't. I mean, and I'm not saying all of them dance like. I mean, a lot of them is. I know a lot of them, they stay solid young niggas. But just that whole shit was never.
I didn't come in the game like that. I came in with Nas and shit. I came in with a different. You know what I mean? I wanted to talk and really let niggas know I could paint certain pictures and shit.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:03] Speaker C: But that's painting the picture for the youth right now. So I really can't knock it. You know what I'm saying?
[00:31:07] Speaker A: Just as a fan, though. Like, I like. Like, I remember me and Geno, we'd be on the radio talking about fav. Like the soul tapes and shit like that. Like, you on that type of. That type of bop. I feel like that shit was.
[00:31:19] Speaker C: See, now, you could get that from me, though. Cause I'm independent. A lot of that I couldn't do with no whole album at the label. They want the Chris Brown record. They want the.
And I love it.
[00:31:27] Speaker A: I mean, I want the. I want you to.
[00:31:28] Speaker C: I do, too.
[00:31:29] Speaker A: But I want to be able to play your shit.
[00:31:31] Speaker C: I can't just do that.
[00:31:33] Speaker A: I feel you.
[00:31:33] Speaker C: You get what I'm saying? I gotta mix it. Mix. I gotta give them this one, that one. I gotta make a. You know what I mean? So now I'm in a space where I could give you a. For the love. I could give you a.
You know what I mean? I could give a Joint with ransom. That's mad, thought provoking, intellectual, you know what I mean? That's a different bag.
The Arab, living proof. Yeah. Shouts to a rap music. Me and him got a sound that's that. That locked in early on like. You know what I mean? Yeah.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: Did you. Were you on the XXL Freshman? Or did y' all just do a cipher?
You on here, right?
[00:32:06] Speaker C: I couldn't just do the cipher.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: I can't find the.
[00:32:08] Speaker C: They just let niggas do the cipher.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: No, they don't. That's why I'm confused right now.
I see. Ung Herbo.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:15] Speaker C: They just put me a Herbo in a free.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: In a joint.
[00:32:18] Speaker B: But you 2016, right?
[00:32:20] Speaker C: Yeah, 16. I think they put 21 savage, Kodak. I think they put them in like a joint and then they put me in Swerve in a joint.
[00:32:29] Speaker B: You didn't have hair.
[00:32:30] Speaker C: I had a Caesar. A good little.
Little haircut.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: I see you.
[00:32:34] Speaker C: I'm there.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:35] Speaker C: All right.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: You look different.
[00:32:37] Speaker C: It's not a clone.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: This one, you.
[00:32:39] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: This one you look.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: Donnie look different.
[00:32:42] Speaker A: This one, you was crazy.
[00:32:45] Speaker B: He looked different.
I guess it was nine years ago. But looking back, you are you.
This is actually a good list. So is you. And I'm only going to mention the people that's still consistent dropping right now. You, Yachty, Kodak and 21 Savage.
[00:33:03] Speaker C: And Herbo.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: And G. Herbo. I'm sorry, G. Herbo, he looked different.
[00:33:07] Speaker C: And my guy.
What's my guy on there?
[00:33:11] Speaker B: Lil Dicky, Designer.
[00:33:14] Speaker C: Anderson Pack.
[00:33:15] Speaker B: Pack.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: Anderson Pack.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: Oh, this is Anderson Pack.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: Everybody got this. She. Everybody look different.
[00:33:20] Speaker C: It's some niggas on that cover looking different. Like from that cover.
[00:33:24] Speaker B: I think we had Uzi.
[00:33:25] Speaker C: We had the best last cover. See, we was just talking. Ain't been no cover that heavy since that cover.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: We haven't. We was just telling Rob 49 that we thought his was cool. But this is actually amazing.
[00:33:36] Speaker C: Think about all of them artists on there and what then happened, you know what I mean? A lot of them took it went crazier than me, but I'm glad to be a part of that.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: Yeah. No, this is a good one.
What was that moment like, though, back then? Cause that's a double XL is always a big thing for artists.
[00:33:49] Speaker C: Yeah, that was dope. I was in LA when they told us that I got it and I had to fly back to New York to do the photo shoot and the freestyle and all that. But that was.
I knew that was something that put me in a group. Yeah.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: Different.
[00:34:02] Speaker C: Yeah. You know what I mean? Like when you play ball, you want to be in that all metro. Like I remember playing. Like, you want to be in that top. Who's the top niggas in the county or the city or that. You know what I mean? And I felt like that was the same recognition as far as rap went, like globally, not just New York, you know what I'm saying? So that was something. That was dope. Big shouts to Vanessa and everybody at xxl. That was fire.
Definitely catapulted my shit.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:26] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[00:34:27] Speaker B: How do you handle the female fans?
You're one of them. Like, not like that, but like one of the. Like the. Like how to. How girls be on, like, method.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: What the fuck are you saying?
[00:34:40] Speaker B: I gotta say it professionally.
I say professionally.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Fuck all that. Just tell me. I don't know what. I'm waiting and shit.
[00:34:47] Speaker C: You know, I get clipped up. Spit it out.
[00:34:49] Speaker B: I get clipped up. I gotta.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: I gotta speak a certain way.
[00:34:52] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:34:54] Speaker A: N got 15 more minutes.
[00:34:55] Speaker C: Right.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: You know like how they just. They yard.
What's the word? Sexualized.
[00:35:04] Speaker C: Right.
[00:35:04] Speaker B: A lot.
[00:35:06] Speaker A: She telling you look good. I'm assuming that's he know that.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: But I wanna know, how do you handle that?
[00:35:14] Speaker A: We all had to get to here.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: I can't wait till a bitch get in here. I'm on your ass.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: God damn.
[00:35:21] Speaker C: I think about what's important, you know what I'm saying? I think that's how.
In so many words. I think that's what. That's what keep me in. In. In good graces. As far as that. I just, you know, I mean, I remember what's important. I appreciate it.
But I got daughters and, you know, I mean, I got. I got stuff that's a little. Not even a little. Way more important than any recognition from anything from this rap.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Have you had any crazy fan experiences?
[00:35:46] Speaker C: Yeah, a few.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: Like stalkers type stuff. Yeah.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: So this was like they at the crib.
[00:35:50] Speaker C: Nah, not the crib. Oh.
[00:35:51] Speaker A: I'm like, damn.
[00:35:52] Speaker C: Just weird, you know? Weird. Just weird. Weird shit.
[00:35:55] Speaker B: I asked you that. Cause I tweeted. What should I ask Dave East? And usually when I tweet that, I get rap responses, but it's some dirty shit in here.
[00:36:02] Speaker A: Oh, girls Wanting shooting. They shot at all that.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: Where the rap questions at?
[00:36:09] Speaker C: Who knows?
[00:36:11] Speaker B: Is fashion like a must out there for y', all, for New York artists? Y' all all just be fly as a motherfucker.
[00:36:16] Speaker C: I think fashion should be a must for everybody, you know what I mean? I think it should be a part of everybody's get up, you know what I mean? First.
First appearances. Sometimes the only appearance, you know? I mean, first impression. I mean, first impression.
I would like people to know, you know what I mean? I could throw that shit on. Like, I don't know how everybody else act, where they from, but I know for sure in New York, that shit is like a Runway.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:39] Speaker C: On the street.
[00:36:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: You know what I mean? So even if you ain't got no. Even if you ain't got it, we going, we going.
We gonna put it together some kind of way, like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:36:48] Speaker B: There's a lot of pressure out there.
[00:36:51] Speaker C: I wouldn't say pressure, but it's just like, you know, if, you know.
You know, not to put no bullshit on. Somebody gonna tell you about yourself.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. You can't walk through New York with your airport fit on. I had. Went to New York and I mean.
[00:37:03] Speaker C: You can't even wanna go outside. It depend on the person, though, like, you know what I mean?
I feel like it depend on the person. Like, if you. One of them. If you. I mean. I mean, yeah, you could come through and whatever, but just growing up, I feel like it was a lot of. A lot of. It was definitely pressure, you know what I mean? As far as having this and having that, and a lot of times, you know, mommy and them couldn't get all that, so n. Had to figure shit out. So that. Yeah, definitely.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: When's the last time you took the train in New York?
[00:37:31] Speaker C: I shot a video maybe a year ago. I did a video on the train.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Not video, just you.
[00:37:35] Speaker C: Oh, me. Just kicking. Oh, man.
2012, 13. Some shit like that got you.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: I'm not getting on no train.
[00:37:43] Speaker C: Like 10 years. Yeah, probably 10 years ago, I actually caught the train to go sign my deal with Nas. Word. Word. I caught the train to Mass Appeal. To me with him and Peter.
That's. That's the guy that runs Mass Appeal. But I caught the train.
I caught the in train at 59th Street.
Went to. Went downtown, SoHo. Did. Did what I did. Signed my deal, got my. I had my deal in a.
Like a manila envelope with my. What I signed and gave it to me. I Got back on the train.
Got off 21st Street, Queensbridge. Got off right there. I was living in Ravenswood at the time and walked down 21st street to my man's crib. I was locked out of my apartment. My cousin had the key.
[00:38:25] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:38:26] Speaker C: I went to my man Pooch. That's like, my big bro went to pooch crib. God bless his pops. J Dub went to his crib. I was like, yo, nigga, Nas just signed me. And as I'm walking down 21st street, my man Mario is driving, like, Queensbridge is right here. And then Ravenswood is up the block. So I'm walking down 21st Street. He's coming up this way, and he seen me. He's like, oh, y' all are doing. What are you going? I'm like, yo, Nas, just sign me. I got the envelope, the deal in my hand.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:38:52] Speaker C: He bust the U turn. He like, oh. He's like, y' all gotta go to work. I'm like, yo, come back to the hood later. I went to my man crib, got a bottle, and that's how I got my deal.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:39:02] Speaker C: I caught the train. So that was the last time I really was unknown. Getting on. Like, if I get on the train now, I can't get on the train. I feel you.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: Where were you financially that time?
[00:39:13] Speaker C: I don't know if y' all know what pop mean in la.
Broke. Dead broke.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: Like, Gotcha.
[00:39:18] Speaker C: I might have had. I was selling weed. That was my hustle. When I got my deal, I had butt on me, the shower.
Shout out to Chad.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: Did you. Did you. Never mind.
[00:39:27] Speaker C: I had weed. I could say that on here, right? I'm selling weed.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: You can say anything. We on satellite.
[00:39:31] Speaker C: Yeah. It's not a hard drug. Nah, I don't smoke. Smoke.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: So you a father of three? Three now.
[00:39:38] Speaker C: Is that four? Four. Three of my own and one I raised. Right, right, right.
[00:39:43] Speaker A: Does that change anything from your. Cause I remember when. I think.
When you came to my other radio show, I think you were only a father of two at the time.
[00:39:52] Speaker C: Kyrie and Kobe. Yup.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: Has anything changed? Like, does the perspective change? Does the grind change? Does the mentality change?
[00:40:00] Speaker C: We up it. We up it all over again. I feel like with each kid, I up it, but I just. I'm much more comfortable in that role now. Cause I did it twice.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: You know what? You kind of. You have experience.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: She's like Casey, my new. Like, my newest baby. She eight months, nine months now. She be one in August. Yeah.
She the coolest, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it ain't. I used to panic with Kyrie, like, Tyga. I don't know. I mean, I used to be panicking. Like, now it's just. It's all good, you know what I mean? She.
I got you, mama. Come on. Yeah. She throw up. Up. I got you. Like, everything is just.
You know what I mean? I feel much more at ease with it, you know what I mean? For real.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: That's dope, bro. Congrats on that.
[00:40:42] Speaker C: Thank you, bro.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: Two things I want to talk to you about is acting East.
[00:40:47] Speaker C: Acting. I love that shit. That's fire.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Acting East.
Well, first of all, like, congrats, like, before on Method. That's. That's crazy to me, you know?
[00:40:57] Speaker C: Thank you, bro.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: But acting east, we see anything, like, all right, I could see you being like, so. You know how Marvel has the movies and they got the TV shows right? I can see you being like, one of the. One of the villains or the goons on the TV show.
[00:41:12] Speaker C: I wouldn't mind being a villain, man.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: I want to see that.
[00:41:14] Speaker C: You know what's so ill with the acting, bro?
[00:41:16] Speaker A: Just. I'm just being honest as a fan.
I want to see that. Like, yo, like, I want you to be like.
[00:41:22] Speaker C: I want you to say supervillain.
[00:41:24] Speaker A: I want you to say to a superhero, like, yo, my man, what you say? Like.
Like some shit like that.
[00:41:29] Speaker C: But you know what's so ill with the acting, boy? I always, like, in the back of my mind, wanted to do it, but I had no ties to it. I didn't know how I could get into it, you know what I'm saying? So the way that it was mad random, you know what I mean? And I just embraced it. Shout out to set free. Shout out to Chris Robinson. That's who really put me on. He's a legend. Yeah.
[00:41:51] Speaker B: I was gonna ask how hands on was Method man with the. With the show.
[00:41:56] Speaker C: He wasn't at the. He wasn't really, like, on the scene or nothing like that, but me and him spoke regularly.
He let me know once I got that role. He was. He was glad that it was me for that role and like that. And I would just call him randomly, ask him questions, but he was like, man, do you. He said, I know you playing me, but they want to see you act. So do you. That was. I think that was the best advice he gave me.
But me and Meth had. Did music before that, before I got that role, so he was already kind of like, Big bro, like, we was locked in. Like, his kids, they fuck with my music, like, you know what I mean?
So that was just a dope situation to be able to call him, you know what I mean? And I had RZA with me on set every day. That was crazy.
RZA's, you know what I mean? RZA's a beyond. He's a whole nother type of God with that shit, you know what I mean? But I actually had the opportunity to be with RZA regularly. Maybe two, three times a week. I would actually be with him. He would be on the set.
Mario Van Peebles directed it. So I was around some shit, you know what I mean? Like, some, oh, whole Bokeem Woodbine was on the show.
Eric Alexander from Living. Like, it was just a lot of shit that I was just learning.
And it was like my really first time being on a. That shit was three seasons. So that's three years, if you really think about it. Like, each season is a year.
You not filming for a whole year, but it takes basically the year for that season.
So I learned a lot, bro. And I was around people that's legends in this shit, that been doing this shit. I was a little kid watching Dead Presidents with Bo Keen. I was watching Living Single with my mom.
So just to be around certain actors, even the newer actors, Ashton, that was dope, that whole involvement. And I think that's something that's gonna live forever, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of people that from this generation that aren't familiar with the actual Wu Tang group, but they familiar with the show, you know what I mean? They'll run down on me. Oh, Method Man. I'm like, I ain't meth, nigga.
I played meth. I ain't meth. I ain't meth, nigga.
Oh, no.
[00:44:00] Speaker A: That sound like a real response you had, nigga.
[00:44:02] Speaker C: I ain't meth.
[00:44:03] Speaker A: Wait.
[00:44:04] Speaker C: Oh, yes, I am.
I had to remember.
Yeah, I get where you know me.
[00:44:10] Speaker A: Calm the fuck down.
[00:44:11] Speaker C: But it's dope. Cause I got hip hop, I got fans of my music, then I got fans of that. So in the airport, the old white ladies that might got a Hulu account, they seen it. They don't know my rap, but they didn't see, oh, you know what I mean? They want a picture, you know what I mean? So it's like a.
I like it, I fuck with it. I think it just made my brand a lot bigger, you know what I mean?
[00:44:30] Speaker A: I agree.
[00:44:30] Speaker B: I'm waiting for you to pop up on power.
[00:44:33] Speaker C: Yeah. 50. What's up, man?
[00:44:34] Speaker A: That's something.
[00:44:35] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, why not? I get on there and clip something. Something. Put something down. That's all they doing on that shit.
Putting down.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: Oh, you know.
[00:44:44] Speaker C: No, I can put something.
[00:44:45] Speaker A: The rite of passage though. East is they. They all do.
[00:44:48] Speaker C: They.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: They all got an intimate scene.
[00:44:50] Speaker C: I get it.
[00:44:51] Speaker A: So.
And they be. It'd be. They show everything.
Sometimes when I'll be like, yo, I didn't. I didn't ask for this.
[00:44:57] Speaker C: Grab a spicy scene.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: This. This scene.
[00:44:59] Speaker C: A lot of on there. I asked for.
[00:45:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:04] Speaker C: I'm a fan of the show, though.
[00:45:06] Speaker B: Oh, God. I mean, it's some characters I didn't want.
[00:45:11] Speaker A: We really didn't need this to tell the story.
[00:45:12] Speaker C: My, like, how it was.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: I'm picking up what you putting down.
[00:45:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:45:19] Speaker C: But I'm definitely.
I'm a fan of that whole. I mean, 50. 50 of jeans with that. That shit is fire.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: What about producing your own shit from a script?
[00:45:27] Speaker C: I'm working on something right now.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: What? A television show. Movie.
[00:45:31] Speaker C: Too many details. But I wanna do like a comedy.
[00:45:34] Speaker A: Oh, really?
[00:45:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:35] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:45:36] Speaker C: But it's gonna be based on my life.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:45:38] Speaker C: Just the things I went through. But I'm gonna put a spin to it. I feel like a lot of people do the documentaries and it's gangsta. You know what I mean? I want that shit. I want motherfuckers to cry or laugh. One of the two.
[00:45:49] Speaker A: What's the.
[00:45:49] Speaker C: And I think people appreciate laughing.
[00:45:52] Speaker B: You seen Vince Staples? Netflix series?
[00:45:54] Speaker C: Yeah, that's fire.
[00:45:55] Speaker A: Fire.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: Gotta be something.
[00:45:57] Speaker C: Fire. Fire, fire. But he's witty. He's very like everybody like you not witty. No, I'm witty too.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: But he's like, you funny.
[00:46:05] Speaker C: It's different. It's. Yeah, I think I am.
[00:46:07] Speaker B: He's funny.
[00:46:07] Speaker C: I think my. Think I'm funny.
[00:46:08] Speaker A: Yeah. We don't know you funny.
[00:46:10] Speaker C: I think I'm. I think you gotta. You gotta let us like, you give serious. Yeah. Behind the scenes, funny. Like I'm not like the ha.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: You ain't got to be all flamboyant either. You could just. No, but I love.
[00:46:20] Speaker C: I love how Vince did that because it's like.
It make you think it reminds me of Curb youb Enthusiasm.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:46:27] Speaker C: Larry David, but in our way.
[00:46:29] Speaker A: Yep. Exactly.
[00:46:29] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? So I super salute him for that. It's like, you know, I mean, that was dope. So, yeah, I think I want to do.
I am going to do something that got a little A little comedic spin to it.
[00:46:40] Speaker A: What's the. What's the New York version of Friday?
[00:46:46] Speaker C: Friday the movie?
[00:46:47] Speaker A: Like, how Friday is our LA story.
Like, but comedy. Is there a New York version of that that I don't know about?
[00:46:53] Speaker C: It's not comedy.
[00:46:55] Speaker A: Well, y' all got the bellies and we got boys in the hood and the minister.
[00:46:58] Speaker C: If I had to say something Friday, I would say, like.
Like how Friday was a LA story.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: But it's comedy, though.
[00:47:09] Speaker C: But it was serious points in it.
[00:47:10] Speaker A: It was serious points in it.
[00:47:11] Speaker C: It was just.
Chris. It was funny, but it was. It was shitting there. That was real. I would say.
Damn. I would say.
[00:47:20] Speaker A: So you got to create it.
[00:47:21] Speaker C: The only story. Yeah, yeah. But the only other New York story that I know was, like, a real Juice.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but that was like, hella serious, though.
[00:47:31] Speaker C: You get what I'm saying? But, yeah, that's. It was. I mean, Juice was. That was. That's real shit.
[00:47:34] Speaker A: Maybe that. Maybe that's a. Maybe that's a thing. Like, where.
[00:47:37] Speaker C: That's real shit. Like, it ain't been no funny that I could think. Oh, Half Baked. Like, Half Baked was in New York. But that ain't really.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: That ain't a New York story, though.
[00:47:45] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? Like, but they filmed it in New York, but it's no New York story.
[00:47:48] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:47:49] Speaker B: Cause y' all seriously paid in full.
[00:47:50] Speaker C: Above the rim, juice belly.
Those is like, New York. You know what I mean? Like, ain't none of them shits funny.
[00:47:59] Speaker A: Ain't nothing funny in New York funny out there.
But the funniest. Like, some of my funniest homies is from New York, 100%, you know what I'm saying?
[00:48:07] Speaker C: 100%. It's funny. I think it's up to the person. I feel like most of the movies that been put out representing New York been some serious shit, you know what I'm saying? Or is trying to recreate something that happened before, you know what I'm saying? Like a Paid in Full shit like that. Like, they recreating something that actually took place. Like, we gotta New York. We gotta get our funny shit up.
[00:48:30] Speaker A: Get y' all funny up, man.
[00:48:31] Speaker C: We gotta get our funny.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: We gotta want to get to this car game before we let you go, bro.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So I have a car game. I have another podcast called Hofessions where I get into rapper's business.
[00:48:43] Speaker C: Ho Fessions.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah. So I made my own car game.
Well, Justin lboy said back in the day, you love To.
[00:48:50] Speaker C: I opt to not do that.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: It's not bad. I promise you.
[00:48:53] Speaker C: And don't take nothing from Justin Lavoy podcast.
That's really my nigga.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: He said you used to love a hoodie.
[00:48:59] Speaker C: Yeah, don't. Yeah.
Wounds and you can just look at it. It's not wound and healed up. I didn't tattoo it over the. I want to reopen the wound.
[00:49:09] Speaker B: It's not messy.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: You can look at it. It's not.
[00:49:11] Speaker B: They right there.
[00:49:12] Speaker A: You can look at it. It's not.
[00:49:13] Speaker B: And if you want.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: Am I reading them?
[00:49:14] Speaker B: Yeah, read it out loud and then skip it if you don't know the answer.
[00:49:21] Speaker C: This is like. You made these or this is.
[00:49:24] Speaker A: She made. She made the whole game herself. She's nuts, bro.
[00:49:28] Speaker C: All right, I'mma out of these four.
[00:49:32] Speaker A: Just read one out loud.
[00:49:33] Speaker C: Read one of them or read all of them.
[00:49:34] Speaker B: Read all of them.
[00:49:35] Speaker C: All right, One of them. Say spit a freestyle or let the person next to you search your phone for the word swallow.
That's crazy.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: We're not doing that.
[00:49:49] Speaker C: That's crazy.
You know your dentist can text. You don't swallow that. Anybody can text you swallow it.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: Let me see your phone then.
[00:49:55] Speaker C: Nah.
What is the farthest you've traveled for sex?
That's crazy.
Like, what time was Pretty Ricky having phone sex? Five in the morning. Yeah, I remember that one. Yeah.
Why did Stoney Nate, I'm gonna do this one?
Why you remember. You know what? This. You remember set it off.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:50:22] Speaker C: She needed that. She needed to situate her situation like, you know what I mean?
[00:50:26] Speaker B: She was in a bind.
[00:50:26] Speaker C: Nate had the. Needed a bond.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: She was in a five in the bind, Nate.
[00:50:31] Speaker A: I'm in a bind.
[00:50:33] Speaker C: Stoney was in a bind.
That's why she. Nate professions.
[00:50:38] Speaker B: You did good.
[00:50:39] Speaker C: Send me these. Where can I get these cards at?
[00:50:41] Speaker B: I send you a box.
[00:50:42] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:50:43] Speaker A: It's a drinking game. So you drinking game?
[00:50:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Now if a drunk. Drunk playing that, you might around if you.
[00:50:49] Speaker B: Yeah, no. See, them cars didn't even scratch the surface of how wild.
[00:50:53] Speaker C: I pulled out some cool ones for you.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: No, no, she pulled it. That was light. It's some wild shit in that place.
[00:50:58] Speaker C: You played that before. So you familiar with it?
[00:50:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm familiar with it.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: We played with Sway. We went through Sway phone.
[00:51:02] Speaker A: She went through Sway phone. And I didn't want to know.
[00:51:04] Speaker C: I didn't know type swallow.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And it was some shit in there, and I was like, yo, I didn't want to know you. Okay. All right.
[00:51:12] Speaker C: Big homie n going swallow crazy in him joint.
Nah, nope, not me.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: But she do she. This is a real thing. You can get them. But Gina be off the gummy. She hit the group chat sometimes and say some wild shit.
[00:51:25] Speaker C: Some wild shit.
[00:51:26] Speaker A: We had this one thing that went crazy viral when we were talking about an album.
So you get to pick one. I might fuck it up. Tell them, pick one album.
[00:51:35] Speaker B: What's one album that's good enough from an artist that you would be fine with if they never dropped another album again?
[00:51:41] Speaker A: No features, no nothing. You get one album from an artist where it's just that good. You could live with just this. No other work.
[00:51:46] Speaker C: And we don't have to put out nothing else.
[00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Kind of like it came from the Lauryn Hill thing, you know? Lauryn Hill. I've been dropping nothing else. So somebody else that's like that where you wouldn't need nothing else from them.
[00:51:57] Speaker A: I think I picked Get Rich and I picked.
What was the other one I picked.
[00:52:02] Speaker B: A lot of people were saying, Confessions, Usher.
[00:52:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:52:06] Speaker A: That was like, the body of work is so good where, like, you don't need nothing else.
[00:52:09] Speaker C: I could agree with that.
Let me see one album and I'm good on them. Yeah, they did what. They did what I needed.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: That's it.
[00:52:16] Speaker C: And I could just play that forever.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:20] Speaker B: Another one that's good. That nobody said was Life Jennings first album.
[00:52:26] Speaker A: Oh, no.
[00:52:27] Speaker C: He got like, I ain't gonna front. I would say Life after, but I really wanted to hear more from Big. God bless his soul, you know what I'm saying? But I think that album was like.
[00:52:36] Speaker A: So you could just take that and be.
[00:52:37] Speaker C: He got his point across, bro.
[00:52:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:52:39] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Like, I was. I can't say that, though. Cause I want to. I would have loved to hear more Big, of course, like everybody else.
[00:52:46] Speaker B: It's a hard question when it's some. Especially when it's somebody you a fan of.
[00:52:49] Speaker C: Right.
[00:52:49] Speaker B: Cause it's hard when you think about, like, oh, shit. Well, they got this one and they got that one.
[00:52:56] Speaker C: One album.
And I'm good on them.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Like, I was stumped, too.
I was like, damn, I only get one album.
Yeah, that's because I had went with ye. I was like, I need. I said, I like College Dropout. Cause that was my thing when I came. But then I was like, I need my beautiful, dark, twisted fans.
[00:53:14] Speaker C: And she's like, I put out so much. It was so much fire and it was. And you know, with him, it's so many different sounds. Yeah, like, College Dropout was a sound. That was a sound. That twisted fan, all of them was different. He was going through different shit. So you mean. I don't know.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: That's a great.
[00:53:30] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a hard one.
[00:53:30] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:53:31] Speaker C: That's a hard one.
Yeah, that's a hard one.
[00:53:35] Speaker A: All right, well, if you. If you think of it, you know.
[00:53:37] Speaker B: You'Ll get in the comments.
[00:53:38] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a rough.
Let me. Let me poly.
I could think about that one.
[00:53:44] Speaker A: All right, well, before we let you go, I definitely want to say congratulations. I know, you know, from the dirt, like, you've been. You've been really thugging it out. I just seen the whole journey, like, you know, we got a lot of mutual, you know, contacts and people shout out to K, boy.
[00:53:58] Speaker C: Shout out to 4:30, K boy, my.
[00:54:00] Speaker A: Dog, and the whole Marathon family. But I'm proud to see of what you've been doing. Like, you don't really. You're not one of them people who make excuses.
A lot of niggas. A lot of niggas will use what you've been through to be bitter and to make excuses. It's like, nah, I'm finna get out here on this road. I'm finna go get to it.
[00:54:17] Speaker C: It ain't shit. You know what I think about, bro? It ain't really nothing to be bitter about, bro. Like, when I always think about what did I set out to do, you heard, like, when I was sitting in the hood breaking down roaches of roaches, I mean, trying to put a blunt together, and I'm sitting smoking, thinking like, damn, I wish I could get the fuck out of here. You know what I mean? Them days, I think of that, yeah, what I set out to do and what I've done, bro, and what I'm still doing. So it's really nothing to be bitter about.
[00:54:46] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I'm just saying, like, I'm bitter about homies.
[00:54:49] Speaker C: I lost that. I feel like should still be a part of this, that I feel like didn't get a.
A real fair shot at life, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they. They left early like that, but besides that, I'm good. You ever feel like everybody else create what they feel I should be, what they feel I should be doing or you should be there, man, how you know I ain't cool doing what I'm doing? Yeah, I ain't never been out here looking like I'm mad or upset or slandering nobody or. You ain't never Seen me in no interview, upset or like, I'm in my feeling, I'm good.
[00:55:22] Speaker B: You ever experience survivor's remorse?
[00:55:26] Speaker C: Yeah, all the time.
All the time?
All the time.
I think about it, like, I know my lifestyle and how life got.
Might have contributed to some people death, like, you know what I'm saying?
Maybe if it wasn't what it was, maybe we. You know what I mean? Maybe it wouldn't have went.
It's. God, you really can't. I don't blame myself, but I think about shit like that.
Like, damn, if we wouldn't have been on that cuzzle might have. You know what I mean?
[00:55:55] Speaker A: But, yeah, dog, like, congratulations on your independence. Congratulations on being able to drop at the frequency.
[00:56:01] Speaker C: We letting them fly, cuz.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: He.
[00:56:02] Speaker C: Yeah. And I know you got this shit we dropping, man.
[00:56:04] Speaker A: When is that?
[00:56:05] Speaker C: When is that?
[00:56:06] Speaker A: When is that full? When's that? Solo East.
[00:56:09] Speaker C: Me? Well, my next project, I'm doing karma 4. So if you familiar with the karmas 1, 2, and 3. You know what I mean?
3. I had Mary J. Blige on that joint. I had the Handsome record on that joint. I had the joint with Popcorn on the. I mean, I had. So the Karmas always kind of.
You know what I mean? They special to me. Like. So I'm gonna drop the Karma 4.
Probably early June.
[00:56:31] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:56:32] Speaker C: Like that.
[00:56:33] Speaker A: Yeah, Right. Top of summer.
[00:56:34] Speaker C: I'm gonna send you them joints right now. You gonna get them.
[00:56:37] Speaker A: I appreciate that.
[00:56:37] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:56:39] Speaker B: He leaks.
[00:56:41] Speaker C: I got a leaker with me.
[00:56:42] Speaker A: Get the fuck out of here.
[00:56:43] Speaker B: He leaked Big Sean albums.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: I did not leak.
[00:56:45] Speaker C: Why you saying you making niggas albums?
[00:56:47] Speaker A: You know damn well you ain't never seen my.
[00:56:49] Speaker B: I'm traveling. I'm traveling.
[00:56:50] Speaker A: Ain't no bullshit. I don't.
[00:56:52] Speaker C: You said I'm going to send the whole joint.
[00:56:53] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:56:54] Speaker C: Get that early, bro.
[00:56:55] Speaker A: But yeah, no, I appreciate you pulling up, bro. And, you know, stay safe on that road, you know what I'm saying? Keep embracing that youth, cuz. I think they need that.
[00:57:01] Speaker C: I got you.
[00:57:02] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:57:02] Speaker C: Appreciate y' all having me, too, bro.
[00:57:04] Speaker A: Man, it's Davies here. It's effective immediately.
