Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:05] Speaker C: I'm Gina View.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Welcome to. Effective immediately. We got legends in the building, as you can see. Je. Jagged Edge.
[00:00:15] Speaker D: Man.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Listen, bro. Well, as you can see what just transpired, like live on the air, you know, it's real.
[00:00:21] Speaker E: No doubt.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying, y' all, I think just being. Just being from the outside looking in like y' all, what y' all mean to certain people.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying?
Culturally, spiritually, like, mentally emotional, like, because I know people too. Have people get married to your music.
[00:00:38] Speaker E: Absolutely.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: You know what I mean? What not. Do y' all ever. Does that ever, like, not you up, but does that ever. Like, it does that. Does that. Do you still have the same reaction as you did before? Is what I'm asking. I guess what I'm asking.
[00:00:52] Speaker D: Well, for me, I think, you know, I feel like all my reactions have been heightened. You know, after the things I went through, I feel like I could feel everything a hundred times more to the point where it's the time I could be talking about something and I'll be like that.
[00:01:04] Speaker E: Just get emotional.
[00:01:05] Speaker D: I had to stop talking before I start crying, really.
[00:01:08] Speaker F: So, yeah, it's that.
[00:01:11] Speaker E: It's powerful. It's powerful. Yeah.
[00:01:13] Speaker F: Right now.
But you know what?
Before Jagged Edge even formed, I was like 13.
I used to have these dreams of being on stage and I used to wake up, I'm like in the middle of the. I'm like taking a power nap or something, you know, And I used to wake up in the middle of the day, like in a cold sweat from dreaming. I could see three other guys in my peripheral, you know what I'm saying? And one day we had a show and it was deja vu.
And I felt like an out of body experience to where like, okay, Kyle, keep going.
Don't pass out. Or don't you feel what I'm saying? But praises to the most high. He don't make no mistakes.
[00:01:51] Speaker C: It feels like you just walked out of heaven.
[00:01:55] Speaker F: I'm like, wait a minute, you know what I'm saying?
[00:01:57] Speaker A: And you know what's funny about that song Too Dip. When we had went through some things around that time and we did V103, what was the big convention that they used to have?
[00:02:09] Speaker E: For sisters only.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: For sisters only. And we thought at that point in time we was about to be canceled for some things that had happened with us, you know what I mean? And we sang that song for the first time in Atlanta and the crowd exploded and I had that kind of moment, I was almost crying on stage because I was like.
I thought they was done with us, you know what I'm saying? And to see that reaction, just like, it's crazy.
[00:02:28] Speaker C: What year is that, though? Cause was Cancel Culture a thing then?
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying because of what we had went through. And I don't want to bring it up, but I just thought.
[00:02:37] Speaker C: I don't even know, right?
[00:02:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm glad.
But I thought he was kind of like. Especially in Atlanta, I was like, man, you know, we done with them. Nah. You know what I mean? So when we got on that stage and that song came on and people exploded, it just made me emotional, you know what I'm saying?
[00:02:50] Speaker E: I mean, but that's the reason we keep it going, you know what I mean? That's the reason we stayed together for moments like this, you know what I mean? Like, we done been other continents, countries.
[00:03:01] Speaker D: Made millions, all that shit. We do a lot of this for the fans.
[00:03:03] Speaker E: Exactly.
[00:03:05] Speaker D: We love our fans. They gave us a way out of where we from.
[00:03:08] Speaker E: Absolutely.
[00:03:09] Speaker D: And we don't take that shit for granted.
[00:03:11] Speaker E: Real talk, real talk. Real talk.
[00:03:13] Speaker C: Why do you guys think that at this point? Cause obviously, like, guy groups are not a thing anymore. But why wasn't even after you guys. You guys, you know, y' all just stopped dropping albums. There hasn't been anybody else to come and even take the place and give us. Give the same feeling that you guys did.
[00:03:30] Speaker D: It's expensive to do this.
[00:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:32] Speaker D: But, you know, you gotta think, if it's expensive to move one person, how is expensive is it to move forward? And that's what you kind of get caught up in. It's the logistics of it.
[00:03:40] Speaker A: But it's funny, though. Cause exactly what you said. Teddy Riley came to us one day. He said. He said. So it was New Edition.
[00:03:46] Speaker D: Yep.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: He said, then Guy came, then Jodecy came, then Black street came, H Town came, he said, but once y' all came, he said, ain't nobody been able to get it back from y' all.
[00:04:00] Speaker D: Shout out to Teddy Riley. Tell the Truth, Shame, the Devil.
[00:04:03] Speaker F: Shout out to Jagged Edge.
Y' all.
[00:04:08] Speaker B: Them might got some records.
Niggas might got a couple records.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: Do.
[00:04:18] Speaker C: Do you guys have a favorite. A favorite Jagged Edge album?
[00:04:21] Speaker D: Ooh, I think we all probably got one different. But I mean, for me, it ain't one favorite. I got a couple favorites.
We got 11 albums out, so I got a couple favorite albums like that.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: Why?
What makes the album a favorite?
[00:04:34] Speaker D: I mean. Well, the first favorite is the first album, and that's cause it changed our lives, obviously, you know what I mean? And then my second favorite is the Hard Album.
I just like the songs we put.
[00:04:45] Speaker E: On that album, you know, and the title and everything.
[00:04:48] Speaker A: Yeah, for me, all 11. Cause every album comes with their own set of obstacles, you know what I mean? And once you get there and you release it to the people, it's like you giving them your baby, you know what I mean? So all of them for me, you know what I mean?
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Do you ever listen to an album and critique it, though? Like, you go back and wish you.
[00:05:04] Speaker D: Would'Ve did something different on that side of it. I might hate the first album, honestly.
[00:05:10] Speaker B: Get the fuck out of there.
[00:05:11] Speaker C: Those albums are perfect, though.
[00:05:14] Speaker B: Front to back, there's no way.
[00:05:15] Speaker D: But I just heard things in there that I know I would do. Professionals, you know what I mean? But at the time, yeah, right.
[00:05:22] Speaker E: Technology's grown, all that, you know what I mean?
[00:05:24] Speaker D: It's not even about. It's like she said, it's about really examining my own performance and knowing I would have right now at that point in time.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: You was young as a writer. You critique. Like, I could have came with a different way to say that, you know what I mean? So things like that you always kind of going through in your mind.
[00:05:43] Speaker C: I was like, probably like 10 years old. Singing Keys to the Rings.
[00:05:47] Speaker F: There you go.
[00:05:52] Speaker C: Even though y' all don't have, like a favorite, just the album itself. What's your favorite deep cut?
[00:05:58] Speaker D: There's a lot of those, too. Shit, go ahead. You might want to go around the table.
[00:06:03] Speaker A: I would say my favorite deep cut, probably the song called It's Been youn the Whole time on the JD Heartbreak 2 album.
Sorry, it's been you the whole time on the JD Heartbreak 2 album. I think a lot of people missed that record, but it's a really, really, really, really good record, you know what I mean?
[00:06:24] Speaker E: For me, I think it's a record called Respect, you know, Respect for now. In real life, y' all had a friend that was going through some domestic violence issues.
And, you know, I brought her to the studio and she was kind of banged all up or whatever from a recent experience.
And I just came to the guys like, yo, bro, we gotta do a record about, you know, guys beating up on their women. We can't. Like, we have to speak on that, you know what I mean? And they do, do, do dun Dada.
[00:06:55] Speaker D: I'm gonna have to say a song called Spaceship on the Remedy album.
And I just feel like, like that song is talking about, like, you know, if she don't wanna see me, she don't wanna talk to me.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: I don't wanna be here.
[00:07:09] Speaker D: We ain't talking about death. Like, I wish I could get in the spaceship and fly the f.
I find myself in that position a lot. I know that about preaching in real life. That's one of my favorites right there.
[00:07:23] Speaker F: I guess for me, I would be for the rest of our lives.
It's just that whole vibing process. It's like when he started, the energy just domino. And I was just sitting back watching them. They're like, all right. Kind of go in the booth.
[00:07:36] Speaker D: I'm like, you saw n just did.
[00:07:39] Speaker F: I can't come behind that. You know what I'm saying?
[00:07:41] Speaker A: And.
[00:07:42] Speaker F: But it was just magical. And I just felt then like, you know what? The world is in for a treat.
[00:07:48] Speaker E: And we wrote that record on the twins mom's bed. Like, the poor guy just sitting around vibing. That's how that record came about.
[00:07:58] Speaker D: Yeah, you had to say that differently.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: Sitting around the bed.
He wanted to oppose you, but he.
[00:08:08] Speaker F: Had to let you go like that.
[00:08:09] Speaker D: He said, we roll that in the twins mama bear.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: All right.
[00:08:12] Speaker D: That dude sound craz.
[00:08:15] Speaker E: But that's why I had to come back and say sitting around the bed.
We were in her room, and that's where the vibe came.
Y' all crazy.
[00:08:25] Speaker C: Was it ever difficult to create concept records?
[00:08:29] Speaker D: No.
[00:08:30] Speaker A: That's how we start most of our records conversation, you know what I mean?
[00:08:34] Speaker C: But pinning it, though, a lot of people not able to pin it the way y' all are.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: I feel you there. But I think that once you have the concept, then it's like a book. Like, you got your framework now it's just filling that in with the little minor details.
[00:08:48] Speaker F: And then the ideas, they're like, man, what y' all think about? So it's like a barbershop talk. And then it just kind of create itself, you know what I'm saying? We need to have a song like this. So we need to write about more. This issue or that. So Brandon Bryant, Come on, man. These the best songwriters, far as the male.
[00:09:05] Speaker A: For me. That's right for me.
[00:09:06] Speaker F: You know what I'm saying?
[00:09:07] Speaker D: Yeah. And like he said, that's God. Cause sometimes I feel like I ain't wrote a word.
[00:09:10] Speaker E: Absolutely.
[00:09:11] Speaker D: Like the way did it come in. So I feel like I didn't write that song.
[00:09:14] Speaker F: I mean, effortless. Effortless, you know what I'm saying? I sit back and watch. I mean, just the three of them. You know what I'm saying? I'm a fan of them. Not because. You know what? But I really admire how they. And they fast. They ain't bullshit. They get in there and they get out.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: Get it done.
[00:09:27] Speaker F: You going to the club. It's time for the club.
[00:09:29] Speaker E: Going to the club.
[00:09:30] Speaker F: They gonna be waiting to the club. No, they in and out, man.
[00:09:33] Speaker C: You know, So I don't know if it's, like, the groupie in me.
[00:09:37] Speaker F: No, you got a little sister. You good.
[00:09:39] Speaker C: I always wondered, like, what.
How do artists feel when they hear they song in the background of movies? So, like, keys to the ranges on the background.
Yeah. And it's obviously Jermaine Dupri has a scene in it.
[00:09:56] Speaker D: To this day.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: Listen, it feels crazy, but I'm gonna tell you the craziest thing for me.
Wesley Snipes and I think it was Sinai Lathan had a movie.
[00:10:07] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: And that kid had Jagged Edge posters.
[00:10:10] Speaker D: All over her bedroom.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Sure did.
[00:10:12] Speaker D: And I was like, no, that ain't the one, bro.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: But that's the one that got me. I like.
[00:10:15] Speaker D: But have y' all seen the poster of us on the wall of Brown. What's that? Brown Sugar. Brown Sugar.
[00:10:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:10:21] Speaker E: Brown Sugar.
[00:10:21] Speaker D: I'm talking about biggest day.
I was like, hey, that's us. We rhymed on the wall.
[00:10:26] Speaker C: So y' all find out when we find out, right?
[00:10:28] Speaker D: Yeah. Really?
[00:10:29] Speaker F: Yeah, it's true.
[00:10:30] Speaker D: True. Nobody ever aware of us, that we was gonna be in that movie.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: Well, sometimes they'll call you and ask for, you know, to sign off on it, but you don't know where it's coming in or how it' so you don't know until you actually see that movie, too.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: You know what? I always wondered about, like, groups? Like, who gets to decide, like, who decides who gets on what record? Cause, like, everybody ain't on every record.
[00:10:50] Speaker D: Like, group is.
Yeah. It's just kind of.
[00:10:53] Speaker E: Yo, it comes natural.
[00:10:55] Speaker D: I mean, you know, it's funny. Jermaine kind of started the dynamic in terms of who leads what.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: Right.
[00:11:00] Speaker D: Cause at first, we all wanted everybody to do their thing. Jermaine kind of made it, like, let's let the twins do this because they have a sound that's recognizable.
So I think now that the sound has been established, we always are just trying to give an effort that compliments what the establishment is. You know what I mean?
[00:11:18] Speaker F: Let me tell you something. We don't have that problem. Like, man, you singing all the damn.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: Songs or it just say Jagged Edge.
[00:11:23] Speaker F: On, yeah, we all flow, man. Like I say, man, we are R and B crew. We love each other, we fight with each other, we cry with each other. You know what I'm saying? His problem's my problem.
But one thing about it, we ain't with the. That I feel that that will break up a group fact. And we all know what it is.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: That whole shit fact. No, you right.
[00:11:43] Speaker F: Ain't no holes in this group.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: You right.
[00:11:45] Speaker F: You know what I'm saying? We real men. So you know what I'm saying? Before you even act like that, I think it's an inner checking to say, you know what? I ain't going to bring this shit to the table myself.
[00:11:52] Speaker E: And when you're doing a record, you don't want to confuse your fans when you're actually establishing them. I'm not saying do a record, but when you're establishing a sound, you don't want to confuse your fans. You don't want this person leading this record, then the next single and this person.
[00:12:04] Speaker D: You know what I'm saying?
[00:12:05] Speaker E: Like, you sound totally different. You can't have to establish a sound.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: You have to get a sound going.
[00:12:10] Speaker E: Whenever they hear. Whenever they hear you, oh, they automatically.
[00:12:13] Speaker B: I already know.
[00:12:14] Speaker F: Just a man. You heard Ernie Isley saying, ernie, why.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: You do that to Ernie?
[00:12:20] Speaker F: Ernie, Ernie.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Go ahead and duck his.
[00:12:29] Speaker D: Go ahead and tuck his. Under the lead, all the way down.
[00:12:33] Speaker F: Stack him, but tuck him.
[00:12:37] Speaker E: That's funny.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: That's hella funny.
The other thing, just as a fan watching y' all perform. Let's get Married. I forgot where it was. But just watching y' all perform, that I remember, like, a couple of my.
I ain't gonna say her name. My cousins, they fantasize about getting married to y' all soon, right? And I'm like, bro, y' all ain't never getting no.
[00:13:00] Speaker F: No.
[00:13:03] Speaker C: Hey, let me show you something.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: You ain't never getting no, nigga. You know what I'm saying, right?
[00:13:08] Speaker C: Let me show y' all something.
I have a wedding playlist in real life with all y' all songs on them.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: I see the color right there.
[00:13:20] Speaker E: That's dope.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: So I'm watching y' all perform this shit, and I'm looking at my cousin like, bro, do y' all take any responsibility for the level of delusion that these women have?
[00:13:30] Speaker F: Well, we do say we the godfather of a lot of babies.
[00:13:35] Speaker D: We do.
[00:13:35] Speaker F: We do claim.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: I say this, too, though. Like, if you like. Some people try to say, like, we trivialize marriage, right? But if you listen to that song, right, it starts out, I know these so called players ain't gonna tell you this, right? But I'm gonna be real and say what's on my heart. We speaking from a relationship standpoint of a man who been with his woman. And it's like, you know, some hood shit in a sense. Like sometimes people have been together so long, the nigga might be like, hey, babe, let's just. Let's just do this shit. Like, what we waiting on?
[00:14:00] Speaker D: Like, conversation. It ain't on all big and deep and shit.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: It's just conversational because you know, they romanticize everything.
Every.
[00:14:08] Speaker C: Yes, I rehearsed my wedding already.
[00:14:13] Speaker D: No, that is crazy.
[00:14:17] Speaker C: We starting off with. With let's get married, the slow one. I'm walking out to the slow one. And then everybody else walking out to the. To the fast one.
[00:14:25] Speaker D: I be telling y' all, manifest, baby, manifest.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: Insert the nigga here fantasy.
You know what I'm saying? Just drag and drop the nigga here.
That shit crazy.
[00:14:38] Speaker C: How many times have you guys had to decline wedding performances?
[00:14:41] Speaker A: We was just talking about that today all the time.
[00:14:43] Speaker D: We supposed to do Travis Hunter's wedding. What was that two weeks ago?
[00:14:47] Speaker B: What?
[00:14:47] Speaker D: We was booked somewhere, so we had.
[00:14:49] Speaker A: And it's crazy, though, because it's like she said, people that young.
When they asked him who did he want? He said him and his girl. First answer was jagged. And it's like, you think people that young. Why? What y' all know about us?
[00:14:59] Speaker D: They parents was rocking.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: But I'm just saying.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: I ain't gonna let you do fact.
[00:15:06] Speaker C: That has to be the number one wedding song.
It has to be.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: Don't act like that. Don't act like y' all not them.
[00:15:12] Speaker E: I mean, we appreciate it, but, you.
[00:15:14] Speaker D: Know, Appreciate the love, bro.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: I get the fake humble, but don't.
[00:15:19] Speaker D: That was.
[00:15:21] Speaker B: How you even know about us?
[00:15:22] Speaker D: Know what you mean. I don't mean like that young.
[00:15:26] Speaker A: Why you wouldn't hear a song from your generation or why you wouldn't think of something else?
It got to be something we don't have.
[00:15:35] Speaker D: Like that no more.
[00:15:36] Speaker B: If she was redo this marriage playlist, who do you get married to?
[00:15:39] Speaker C: Her and Daniel Caesar do have one.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah, and I love that song, too.
[00:15:42] Speaker C: They do have one, but that's it.
[00:15:44] Speaker A: That's it.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: I got you.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: I got you.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying?
[00:15:46] Speaker C: Tamia, Eric Benet, they have one. And then y' all.
[00:15:50] Speaker D: Ariel, right?
[00:15:51] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:15:53] Speaker C: Cause love not in the music no more.
[00:15:55] Speaker D: It's not How y' all feel about that? The younger people? How do y' all feel about that?
[00:15:59] Speaker C: I actually. I don't like that because I'm like.
He just said, like, I'm one of them type of girls. Like, I'm a lover girl. So I like to hear love in the music. I like to hear heartbreak in the music. I don't want to hear about you sliding on niggas.
I don't want to hear. It's too much Auto Tune.
Even if we even go back to y' all music videos and how it was like, concepts.
I forget his name. I don't want to disrespect him. But he played Q on Moesha Shout Out Fredro. Yes. And y' all know that video. Obviously, y' all know, but it's like, even and stuff like that. We was just arguing about.
Literally, it's a clip, right now. I can show y' all the clip. We was literally just arguing about What's y' all best song with Bow Wow.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: Play him the clip.
[00:16:43] Speaker D: What did y' all say?
[00:16:44] Speaker C: I said puppy Love.
And he said, my baby.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: I think it's my baby, too.
[00:16:49] Speaker D: Yeah, so.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Told you we got like three of them.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:16:52] Speaker D: In my defense, but lyrically, I like Puppy Love.
[00:16:55] Speaker C: But in my defense, I said, if y' all perform at the 106 and park anniversary, Puppy Love has to be performed.
[00:17:01] Speaker D: No.
[00:17:02] Speaker C: And he said no.
[00:17:03] Speaker D: That's Ball's second hit of.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:05] Speaker C: Puppy Love and my Baby are both retired. 106 in park zones. So that means that it was voted multiple times.
So we both. We both was right.
[00:17:13] Speaker D: No, she let me play the clip. Right, right?
[00:17:17] Speaker B: No, she not right.
[00:17:18] Speaker D: She's right. No, I've been. You know what I'm saying? When she said that the video was retired, she right.
[00:17:23] Speaker F: Yeah, right.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: All right, here go the clip.
[00:17:25] Speaker C: What they have. I'm scheduled for the 106 and park thing. But, like, Jagged Edge is like a big part to me of 106 in park. Even Bow wow Wow.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: Hell, yeah.
[00:17:33] Speaker C: I need Puppy Love performed.
[00:17:39] Speaker D: I like how serious she look.
[00:17:41] Speaker C: If Bow Wow is a part of.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: This, they do my baby. They doing Puppy Love.
Not like that. I'm just saying that's not one of them songs where you gotta do Puppy Love.
[00:17:49] Speaker C: Puppy Love. Not one of them songs. You're crazy.
Puppy Love.
[00:17:55] Speaker B: I know the song. I'm just saying.
[00:18:00] Speaker C: You serious right now?
[00:18:01] Speaker B: Jack. Jack. Bitch.
[00:18:04] Speaker C: She about to play a record you can't believe. Not a word that I be saying.
[00:18:10] Speaker A: Prove your case.
Look at that. Little.
[00:18:15] Speaker C: It just sounds like that.
[00:18:18] Speaker D: I ain't lie. Gina Enthusiasm won the argument. She won the argument.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Oh, that's.
[00:18:24] Speaker D: That's. That's sexism.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Sexism, but, you know, that's sexism. You know what I'm saying?
[00:18:30] Speaker C: You hate him.
[00:18:31] Speaker E: That's too.
[00:18:33] Speaker C: Are you guys participating in the One on Park anniversary show?
[00:18:37] Speaker E: We have. They haven't reached out to us yet, but they will.
[00:18:40] Speaker D: And even if they don't.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: Right. I mean, it really wasn't many people on there more than us in Bow Wow. We was on there about seven, eight times. You know what I mean? Performing. So, I mean. Yeah, I mean, you gotta. You gotta at least think about us. We'll see.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: Is there any. Has there been any records that you got that came? Because, you know, obviously the music industry people, like, pass the records and stuff like that that. I know y' all write for other artists. We don't have to get into that. Right, but has there been records that came through that probably passed through y' all hands like, damn, we should have probably did that one.
[00:19:09] Speaker D: That Little Mo song. What was the name?
[00:19:12] Speaker C: Forever.
[00:19:13] Speaker D: Yeah. No, no, no, no. The marriage.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: The rest of our lives, man. The rest of our lives. Love you for life.
[00:19:19] Speaker D: We had that beat first.
That's a Brian Cox beat. Yeah, that's a Brian.
Brian had gave us that beat beat, but the way he used to do it back then, he would get the same beat to two or three artists, right? And whoever came back first, it was yours. So we came back and we finished the record before she did.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: But I don't think we let him hear it.
[00:19:38] Speaker D: Right? But for whatever reason, we hadn't gotten it back to him. He gave that same beat a little more. She wrote a song.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: Our song was crazy.
[00:19:44] Speaker D: Our song was better. No, I ain't gonna say better. I love Momo.
But we had a good song.
[00:19:49] Speaker F: Oh, that song.
[00:19:51] Speaker D: It was a bop.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: Yes. Can I hear.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: It was called Pretty. So on the layover album, we did a song called Pretty Everything. We took that concept and some of the melodies, but it wasn't that song. Yeah, but I tell you one.
[00:20:04] Speaker F: You know what? I would love to hear it and go head up and just ask if.
[00:20:09] Speaker D: Cox don't really lose, but no, he don't.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: He got us.
[00:20:11] Speaker A: I know one that we passed on then. I ain't gonna say that I wish we would have did it, but we passed on it. Drew Hill, sleeping in my bed.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: Get the fuck outta here.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: And Cisco tells this lie that we went past 22. He says that we sang it at 112 seconds. We couldn't sing it. We. We never liked it.
[00:20:27] Speaker D: Like.
[00:20:29] Speaker C: Did y' all like the remix?
[00:20:30] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. We was pinning on Jermaine.
[00:20:39] Speaker A: We was in the video.
[00:20:40] Speaker D: They cut us out. That's what. Look, they cut you out the video.
We was there. So for us, that's where it all kind of started in terms of the funny energy.
We came to the video, they dapped us up, showed us love, let us do our little performance. And when the video came out, they set us the.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: About this.
Are you serious?
[00:20:58] Speaker D: Real talk.
You'll never forget it because it was the day after Biggie got killed. So we'll never forget this moment.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Jermaine and Brett with the so so deaf basketball shirts.
[00:21:08] Speaker D: We had them same shirts.
[00:21:09] Speaker F: They just cut us out, like, sure did.
[00:21:11] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:21:12] Speaker C: Did you guys ever collab with them?
[00:21:13] Speaker A: No.
[00:21:14] Speaker C: Y' all never did anything.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: Toured one of them.
[00:21:16] Speaker D: We only have collab to this day with 112. That's the only group we ever. What the.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: On their album. On their album.
[00:21:22] Speaker B: I had no idea about this.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: On their last album, so.
[00:21:25] Speaker B: So y' all shot a whole scene.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:27] Speaker D: Yes. We was in there literally doing our little dance.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Get in there. And we went.
[00:21:33] Speaker D: We went to look at the video. When it came out, we was like, zero. Cut us out.
[00:21:37] Speaker F: All right. All that was the start of it.
[00:21:39] Speaker D: That was the start.
[00:21:43] Speaker C: That was the start versus should have been Drew Hill and Jack.
[00:21:47] Speaker F: Oh, no. They ain't got another.
[00:21:48] Speaker D: Well, I mean, I.
[00:21:51] Speaker A: It might be a better battle.
[00:21:52] Speaker D: I do feel like it's a better battle in terms of the ballots, but.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: We'Re not really the same era. People don't.
[00:21:56] Speaker D: But the parody between us and 112.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: You know, it's been a thing.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: But even them, though, they not really our era either. Like, because era get divided by such a thin line. Right. But they all came out 94. 95. We came out 98. We only spent two years in the 90s.
[00:22:12] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: And people think we a 90s group. We came out 98. They came out.
[00:22:15] Speaker D: I look at y' all.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Morris 2000.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: But some people like to lump us with that. I'm like, we not really from the same.
[00:22:20] Speaker C: When did I gotta beat Kim?
[00:22:22] Speaker A: 97.
[00:22:23] Speaker D: No, 98.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: 98.
[00:22:24] Speaker D: Right where you talked him out.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: 97. Right, right. Okay. There you go. But the album didn't come out till 98.
[00:22:29] Speaker C: Another deep cut is Wednesday Lover.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Jermaine was just talking about that record the other day.
[00:22:34] Speaker D: Like, man Charlie Shout out to Charlie Wilson. That's a Charlie Wilson song. A lot of people didn't know that, but that's a Charlie Wilson song that we just redid.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: One of my favorite records that probably don't get a lot of shine. I know people love Where To Party At. That's one of my. I'm a dj, so I play that shit all the time still to this day. But it's a song that y' all did with Nas called I Got It Part Time.
[00:22:54] Speaker D: Come on, man.
[00:22:54] Speaker A: I love that.
[00:22:55] Speaker D: Shout out, Nas.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: I love that.
[00:22:56] Speaker E: I got it.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: You know what's crazy now? That run. I thought I could sing, right?
And so I'm trying to hit that and I'm like, let me just. Let me just do Nas part.
[00:23:09] Speaker E: But that beat was crazy.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: That record started out as a ballad.
[00:23:12] Speaker D: It was a ballad first. Really sped that shit up.
That was a dope ass ballad. And we sped it up for that track history, so.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: But it says it was part two, though.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause the first one was Trina.
[00:23:22] Speaker D: Was Trina, right? So he's on the album version. And then we shot the video. We put Nas on the song.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: Because the reason why I brought this up is because me and her were talking about this on the radio too. How there used to be like damn near three versions of a record, right? You get the album version, you get the video version, and then you might have like a alternate B side single, right?
[00:23:43] Speaker D: And that's what it was. You max out that song on that, on that little cd, it might be five versions of that one song on that.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So when y' all. Did y' all ever do any other songs like that that were different versions of. Cause I remember there was.
I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, there was two or three versions of let's Get Married.
Then there was a song, Trade It All. There was three versions of. There was two versions of Trade It All Part two.
Am I.
[00:24:10] Speaker D: You're right.
[00:24:10] Speaker B: You're right. Okay. But it was like finding these. This is. This is the download era. Napster. I'm bootlegging y' all shit.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:24:17] Speaker B: I'm bootlegging.
[00:24:18] Speaker D: We bootlegging our own shit. I'm bootlegging the fuck out of.
Yeah.
[00:24:22] Speaker B: So I'm like. So I'm trying to. I'm on the computer. This is using dial up Internet and shit. Trying to figure out like. And I download the same version twice. I'm hot. Cause that's another 30 minutes. I gotta wait. Somebody call the phone, call the house and kick me off.
But that's what stuck in my mind is why I'm bootlegging y' all. Shit. Why was there so many different versions of the records?
[00:24:42] Speaker A: I think, you know, the goal from a record label standpoint was to serve as many different. Like, you know, like someone might have a Spanish version. You know what I mean? So just try to serve a bunch of different audiences off of one. Off the heat of one song.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: What was the two versions of Trade It All Part?
[00:24:59] Speaker A: I think we weren't on the second version.
[00:25:01] Speaker D: There was a version where the beat.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: Was a little bit different. Come, Come closer.
[00:25:03] Speaker D: There was a version of Trade it all where the beat is a little bit different.
Our vocals are the same, and I think Puff changed his rap, so that's why it's two different versions.
[00:25:13] Speaker E: But then we also had a maxi single for Promise.
Promise.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: No, I'm talking about all of it.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: I'm just saying in general.
[00:25:19] Speaker E: He's just saying, man. Let me.
[00:25:26] Speaker D: We had an EDM mix of Promise. It was so hard.
We didn't even like that type of music.
[00:25:31] Speaker E: We used to jam that techno version of Promise, bro.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: Yes, bro.
[00:25:37] Speaker E: The Roof. And then we were just talking about this earlier. Let's Get Married. There's a Kanye west version where he actually rapping on that.
[00:25:44] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:25:44] Speaker E: Like.
[00:25:45] Speaker D: Like, who got that one?
[00:25:46] Speaker B: I ain't got it.
[00:25:48] Speaker E: You can get it.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: It's on remix.
But y' all remember, was it Cooling the Gang version of Waddy to Happen at Cooling Gang B?
[00:25:57] Speaker E: Yep, yep.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: Y' all wasn't creating these. These were being created by the label or producers and labels, but European producer.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: Would send it in and label liking it. You know, then they service everybody got you.
[00:26:10] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:10] Speaker C: Have y' all ever made a song where you tried to kind of like, okay, so, baby girl, don't you know that you. That's still a wedding song to me.
[00:26:21] Speaker D: You know what that song is? Is. It's Jodecy.
Oh, that's Jody can't come and Talk, right?
[00:26:28] Speaker C: Oh, it is, yes. So how. How did that song.
[00:26:31] Speaker D: Funny thing. Well, what's. What's my man name? Lamb wrote that song. That's the only song we ever put out as a single that we didn't write.
Lamb wrote that song. And the crazy thing about that song is that the vocal parts come from Jodeci. The beat come from Surface.
Only you can make me yeah, Only you can make me happy so we kind of. What do they call that when y' all do that nowadays? When y' all mashed it up, we matched it up. Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: Can y' all give us the. Just, like, from a fan? I have to know this. The let's Get Married, the original song. And then how did the remix come about? Or what's the order of. Like, I know we got it the way we got it, but is there a different. Is there a story or any of the backstory on it?
[00:27:13] Speaker A: Yeah, well, the story for let's Get Married is that Gotta be. Once it blew up.
[00:27:17] Speaker D: Up.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: You know, this is back in the day when you had fan clubs and stuff still, right? And fan clubs, people was going and getting married or getting engaged and filming it, putting on, like, VHS tapes and sending them to the label.
[00:27:28] Speaker F: Gotta be.
[00:27:29] Speaker A: So it got to the point where Jermaine was like, y' all seen all the fan mail y' all got?
[00:27:32] Speaker D: He had an office full of videotapes of people getting married over their wedding rehearsals or just things like that published anywhere. I. I don't think so.
[00:27:41] Speaker C: Y' all need a documentary.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: Right? Right. But I mean. But from that, though, Jermaine walked in.
[00:27:47] Speaker D: Let's go.
[00:27:47] Speaker E: Let's go.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: But from that, Jermaine walked in and said, y' all need to make a song for people to get married to, because they already get married to Gotta be. You know what I mean? So that's how it kind of.
[00:27:55] Speaker F: But then the remix, that's why it's.
[00:27:56] Speaker D: So direct, like, let's Get Married. Because people's already doing it to the other song.
[00:28:00] Speaker F: Yeah, my bad. Cut you off.
But, like, when we heard the Drew Hill remix, They're Sleeping In My Bed, JD Was like. He knew it was hot with him about it.
[00:28:09] Speaker D: Us and Usher, everybody was mad at.
[00:28:12] Speaker F: We were hot. Usher thought it was his song. And we came in, we gonna come back. But we got that heat. We got that heat. Like, no, that ain't y' all. But JD he redeemed himself with us. And that's when he did let's Get Married remix with Reverend Ron.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: First of all, yeah, I was Jermaine. Sorry. Jermaine Dupri is my goat.
[00:28:32] Speaker F: Oh, man. Genius.
[00:28:33] Speaker B: He's my number one. He's a genius of all time. And I told him that already. Like, shout out to JD but when y' all go in to make an album, I guess I don't want to say during the so. So def. Time or run, but. But during that time, specifically, how do you go about, like, submitting tracks from other producers? Is it.
[00:28:52] Speaker D: Is it like, you have a lot of that?
[00:28:54] Speaker B: Nobody was fucking with y' all like that.
[00:28:55] Speaker D: No, they was. I mean, I'm sure they wanted to, right? But they know Jermaine writing and producing. Then we write and produce, right?
[00:29:02] Speaker A: We just. We put ourselves on a rabbit hole and just go put the album together.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: But I'm saying there were still other producers that collaborated. So is there ever a time where it's like, well, I need to touch. I need to touch. Touch this beat up. Or I need to.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: Like, most of the time, the other producer was guys who we knew. Like, we knew Brian Cox, we knew Gary.
Gary Smith.
Who else?
[00:29:22] Speaker D: Jazzy, New Jazzy.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: Well, like, it was just guys who we really messed with anyway. You know what I mean? So outside of that, like, it ain't organic. We don't. You know, we. We ain't care.
[00:29:32] Speaker F: We keep all the.
Everything in top real close because they know us and we know them, and we don't. We don't waste time. Like I said, we in and out with quiet.
So, you know, we really.
[00:29:42] Speaker D: You know what? It ain't nothing worse than, like, having to get up and do a video or a stage performance with somebody who you got funny energy with. So we always try to keep it organic and real to the people that we fuck with. Like you said, that's what's up.
[00:29:56] Speaker C: Was it ever intentional for you guys to dress like rappers? Cause y' all had, like, jerseys like us.
[00:30:01] Speaker D: All right, we just wanted to. I'll tell the story. All right. So our first video, right? The way that you talked, that went double wood, right?
The whole video, they got us in suits that we didn't pick out, that we didn't have nothing to do with.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: Right. Didn't want.
[00:30:15] Speaker D: So once. So. So once that song flopped, the VP of Social Death, one of our. One of our true. True, like, confidence confidants. I'm sorry. Bart Phillips called us in the office, and he was like, if this next song don't work, I don't know what's gonna happen with Jack. Ain't gonna be no jacket.
So we said to him right then, and I said, okay, it's cool. If y' all gonna hang us out to drive with one record, then let us do the next record in terms of. Of the imaging, in terms of the concepting of the video, and they did that and gotta be took off. And so we. So we here now.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: So just let y' all. Do you.
[00:30:46] Speaker E: Yeah, yeah, basically. I'm sorry, but basically, we just looking like the. How we look at home every day, you know? I mean, like, we want to be relatable, bro. We want to be approachable. We want to. You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't want to look like, oh, gimmicky.
His hat look too good.
[00:31:02] Speaker C: I can't say nothing.
[00:31:03] Speaker D: I don't even touch that.
[00:31:06] Speaker F: You know, we're not. We're not. No silk shirt typos like that even. Even if it's time to dress. We don't dress like that. So we wasn't being that then. So we always wanted to relate to the fact that we. The. We. The we. We the home girl boyfriend, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he cool as hell, but that's.
[00:31:25] Speaker E: What it was with us jogging suits and tims, baby, man, we went to.
[00:31:28] Speaker D: The soul Trainer one one time in white T shirts.
[00:31:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:31] Speaker D: Like, we was T. That's what we doing.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: That's what I do all the. I do that now.
I go just like, we just wanted to be us.
I'm not getting. I don't even own a suit.
[00:31:40] Speaker D: Me neither.
No, I mean, unless it's a jacket.
[00:31:44] Speaker F: You're my.
[00:31:45] Speaker D: I don't own one person, dog.
[00:31:48] Speaker B: Cause they be shaming me. Like, what you need a girl? I'm like, I just don't like suits.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: And you could be fly without a suit, bro. It's ways around it, man.
[00:31:57] Speaker F: We going out to eat and you're not wearing a white T shirt. So I'm already pre dressed before we go anywhere, I got T shirt, drag and drop.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: That's that shit I was talking about.
[00:32:06] Speaker F: Drag and drop. That's what that is.
[00:32:08] Speaker B: That's what that is Going to tell.
[00:32:09] Speaker F: Her that you dragging and dropping, boo.
[00:32:11] Speaker B: You dragging and dropping. Whatever your image is. This you just dropping my face on. That's some yeah, baby.
[00:32:17] Speaker F: You been dragging and dropping.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: That's real. Never like dress codes.
[00:32:22] Speaker C: Were you guys in relationships when y' all was making these love music. Love songs.
[00:32:25] Speaker D: Some.
Absolutely.
[00:32:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Sometime. Most of.
[00:32:30] Speaker D: Relationship was probably.
[00:32:31] Speaker A: I mean, I'm just be honest.
[00:32:34] Speaker C: Okay, what about when y' all. Let's get married?
[00:32:37] Speaker D: Yeah. On the right.
[00:32:39] Speaker C: I never had, like, the girls looking like, nigga, you ain't marrying me.
[00:32:42] Speaker D: Like, how you.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: But you gotta realize too, though, we.
[00:32:45] Speaker D: Was like 19 when he write those.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: Records, you know what I mean? So nobody expecting it at that point in time.
[00:32:54] Speaker B: Who's the one to watch on the road? Like, who's the one that get into the most shit?
[00:32:59] Speaker D: Probably used to be him, but.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you. Yeah.
[00:33:02] Speaker D: Look at his background.
Listen, I think finally he tired of going to jail. Yeah. So he know how to act all of a sudden.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: Lewd acts in the amphitheater.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: Oh, the lewd act. I don't know. It might be him.
[00:33:19] Speaker D: That type of stuff might be that.
[00:33:23] Speaker B: He used to be.
[00:33:24] Speaker D: He married.
[00:33:27] Speaker B: Clean that up.
[00:33:28] Speaker A: He put it up.
[00:33:28] Speaker F: He put it back up.
[00:33:29] Speaker B: Clean it up.
[00:33:32] Speaker F: He was a flopper at baby.
[00:33:34] Speaker D: He was wild.
[00:33:37] Speaker F: Wow, son.
[00:33:40] Speaker C: Are there any unreleased, like, features that you guys had that didn't come out?
[00:33:46] Speaker A: We had a record with TI we had a record with Jeezy.
[00:33:48] Speaker D: We never released that one with Maya.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: You got a record with Maya?
[00:33:56] Speaker A: They released it and the group broke up. Yeah, man.
[00:33:59] Speaker F: You remember the song we had with Pop?
[00:34:03] Speaker A: It was crazy.
[00:34:04] Speaker D: Y' all could. Y' all could. Y' all could be mad at Columbia Records.
They wouldn't let us. They wouldn't let us feature on that song. They said we was too hot and we was going to oversaturate.
[00:34:13] Speaker A: Right? That's. That was the thing at the time.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: Let me hear the.
[00:34:15] Speaker D: That was the thing back in day.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: Let me hear the record.
[00:34:18] Speaker C: Wait, so is he already passed away?
[00:34:20] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: He was gone. Just like when we did the one we did with Biggie. He was gone at that time, but we did actually meet Biggie and kick with Biggie.
[00:34:26] Speaker D: But the crazy thing is Jazzy F. Did both records, so Jazzy just love our pen. So he. When he did the beat, he gave it us to write the hook. We sent him back. They loved it. Then our. Our record label tripped out, let us do it.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: We was so mad about that.
[00:34:38] Speaker F: I think they was scared.
[00:34:44] Speaker C: Is it. Is it like, how. How. How much do y' all really with the song? Like, is it one of them that would have been in.
[00:34:50] Speaker D: Heard it since then?
[00:34:51] Speaker A: It was called Tell Them I'm a Writer.
[00:34:53] Speaker D: Like, that was.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: That was hard.
[00:34:57] Speaker D: Tell him I'm a writer beside you.
Tell him.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: Something like that.
[00:35:11] Speaker C: So it was like some love, like, thug passion type passion.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: Exactly what it was, man. Who got the record?
[00:35:18] Speaker A: I know.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: I got an idea. Y' all need to leak all that. Yeah, y' all need to leak all.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: That or send it to me.
I got you.
I got you, cuz. I want to hear the record.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: You know what's funny?
[00:35:36] Speaker B: I ain't heard that. I want to hear what's funny.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: Somebody. Somebody just made a post, like, two weeks ago about heartbreak, right?
They didn't know that the heartbreak intro was a whole song.
So we just got in the studio with Jermaine. It's a whole record. And we just talking to JD About a week or two ago about, you know, cleaning up and putting that out. Cause people was like, that's a whole record. It was a whole song. That's the bridge of the song, the intro.
[00:35:59] Speaker C: Yeah, y' all do owe us that.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:02] Speaker C: Can't take it.
[00:36:03] Speaker E: One of the engineers end up cleaning, just like Brian said. Found the record. And Brian Cox said, oh, I been looking for that record. And he ended up posting some of it. So a fan came.
Yeah, and the fan came and was like, yo, hold on up now.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Right where that's at.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: Oh, my goodness. How do y' all feel that we don't have anything like. Like VH1 Soul or MTV Jams no More? Cuz y' all killed it. Y' all killed it over there, too.
[00:36:27] Speaker B: We.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: We really want to do a podcast or a show and. And. And do that. Like. Like, recreate that, you know, like, we.
[00:36:33] Speaker D: In talks right now, really, to create something like that.
[00:36:36] Speaker F: Okay, right now, Arsenio hall, to where.
[00:36:40] Speaker D: You got to actually get dressed up.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: And perform like you going on a real.
[00:36:50] Speaker D: We just wanted to be.
[00:36:51] Speaker A: We wanted to be different from, say, tiny, tiny desk.
[00:36:54] Speaker D: You sit there and you ain't. You know, you like. We like the way we look at this, bro. We real performers. We're real fans, right? And, yeah, I could give you some. Something impromptu and unpolished, but wouldn't you rather have polished. Wouldn't you rather have that thing that make you understand why they special, you know what I'm saying? Instead of those performances, like, I could have did without that, you know? I mean, so for us, we want to give them something where it's like, put on your best outfit, put your banding gamut, get your show right. Get your stage show together and come see us, and we gonna put it out there.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: And I think artists will. Cause, you know, a lot of. A lot of packages ain't selling like they once were. And I think that's the way to even bring those sales up. People see you do your best, right? Now I understand why I need to come see you. You know what I'm saying?
[00:37:36] Speaker F: And then. And then you can put a twist on it. Like, I remember when Boys and Men did our cinema, and they did it in a minute.
He did Acapella. And remember, I saw that videotape from y' all?
[00:37:45] Speaker D: I mean, that thing stole it from my house.
[00:37:48] Speaker F: I mean, I was just, like, blown away because it was different. Cause, you know, you hear boys to me, I hear boys to men. But when they did Arsenio, they just sit right there.
[00:37:57] Speaker E: You expect them to just come. Come do the song.
[00:37:59] Speaker F: And leave, right? So with that, you know, somebody may put a twist on the song. And now you an instant fan. Cause I love boys. I men. But when they did that, I'm like, yo, man, this is iconic.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: I got two more questions for y' all. I know y' all gotta roll, but do y' all. Not that y' all look for validation, but did y' all ever get that to do from other groups? Like, y' all mentioned Boy Suit Men, where it's like, man, we see y' all, like, and what did that mean to you?
[00:38:22] Speaker D: Like, all of them have shown. Let me put it to you like this, right?
We've had certain little situations with certain groups.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Facts.
[00:38:29] Speaker D: But Jagged Edge came into this game showing love to every group we came in contact with, down to the point where we'll come and be in your video as an ex extra and not be.
[00:38:38] Speaker B: And not be in the video and.
[00:38:39] Speaker D: Not get put in the video.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: Right.
[00:38:42] Speaker B: He's still mad about that.
[00:38:44] Speaker D: But what we found was some of them groups didn't have that same goodwill that we had for them. You know what I mean? And we still, to this day, have still tried to be cordial with anybody we come across.
[00:38:54] Speaker E: Absolutely.
[00:38:55] Speaker D: But at the end of the day, man, the group thing is a. It's a brotherhood. It's a fraternity.
The fact that it's not what it used to be, I think it's got a lot to do with the industry in itself. It's not the structure of male groups. It's the cost of it.
But I think, you know, it's worth it if you could put something together with your homies and your brothers that you feel good about. Trust me, the world gonna gravitate to it because you don't have it.
[00:39:21] Speaker A: But nowhere to be found, that validation. Absolutely. Like, we got into a literal fight with a certain group, and we ain't gonna talk about it. We've talked about it before, and no one. I feel like we won.
[00:39:32] Speaker F: But we did win.
[00:39:33] Speaker A: But it don't matter, right? They can't. He just said, we ain't gonna talk about back and apologized to us and wanted to work with us. And now when we pull up in their city, they pull up every time.
[00:39:43] Speaker D: And I love them guys.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: Part of that validation right there, y'.
[00:39:47] Speaker C: All beat up Jealousy.
[00:39:48] Speaker D: It was.
[00:39:51] Speaker E: Stupid.
[00:39:51] Speaker F: She our little s. You know, she.
[00:39:53] Speaker D: Like he said, it's better not to even say it, cuz we cool with them. Cool, so.
[00:39:57] Speaker A: And they actually. They real ones too, though. Don't get it. Tw like, they some Real ones, you know what I'm saying? But wasn't their day.
[00:40:02] Speaker F: They probably all group bagged.
We'll give them.
[00:40:09] Speaker B: The other thing was, I remember talking to. Who'd I talk. I think I was talking to Sean Stockman. Right. Legend, too, you know what I'm saying? Boys II Men, whatever. And I remember him telling me, he's like, hey, you know, they took our formula and went and ran with it to the Caucasian side of things. Did y' all ever get that? Did you ever feel slighted?
[00:40:28] Speaker D: We thought that the whole way.
See, Boys and Men had a time where they were out by they selves, Right? When we came out, there was already a Backstreet boys and an NSync. And the reason why we didn't frequent the TV audience is because of those guys. All right? We had.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: We had. You purposely didn't go or you wasn't sponsored.
[00:40:44] Speaker D: Why they wasn't, right. Why we weren't so inclusive in that programming. It's because they already had something like us, but they were white.
And I think at the end of the day, it got to the point where it was almost silly. Like, the first time we went on trl, Carson Deli was like, it's about damn time.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah.
[00:40:59] Speaker D: Cause it was. It was. It was really something behind the scenes keeping Jagged Edge from being on mtv. So. So we probably attribute it to those white clips, but we don't honestly know for sure.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: Another funny story, though. Like, when you talk about our image and all that, right? If you go back and look at it, right? When it came to cornrows and things like that, us and Allen Iverson, you really go back and look at. It was us and Alison.
[00:41:22] Speaker D: That's it.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: Then R. Kelly came. Then it just exploded, right? But I remember this incident.
We had a show. I want to say it was the viewer. I can't remember what it was, but our label, right? We had our stylist bring our clothes, and my outfit was a bandana, and I had my cornrows. The label literally told us not to wear it because that program was gonna have an issue with it. We look up the next, like a week or two later, and NSYNC got on the same thing that we had on braids.
[00:41:49] Speaker D: With bandana.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: With the same bandana.
[00:41:51] Speaker C: I'm like, does it seem like had braids?
[00:41:53] Speaker A: Yes. Go find it. Go find it.
[00:41:55] Speaker D: Britney Spears, they both had on G.
Forget this. They both had on G. Office at the mtv. I remember that.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: And you going to tell us, like, it looked too threatened or something.
And did it.
[00:42:06] Speaker B: You end up not doing it because of that. Yeah.
[00:42:08] Speaker A: Cuz, listen, the label, they got to wear.
[00:42:11] Speaker D: You wore a hat.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: I wore a hat and I think I still took it off and I had under there, but. But I did come out with a hat on. You know what I'm saying? But it's like they. The label got away making you think if you don't do what they want, then you just, you know, you going to have a hard time. So he's like you battling.
[00:42:24] Speaker F: You battling the machine, right?
[00:42:25] Speaker B: Wow.
Wow.
[00:42:26] Speaker C: Before y' all go, just tell me the sibling dynamic. Cuz I've always thought y' all was twins and y' all was twins. Like, I thought Jack and EDS was a group.
[00:42:36] Speaker F: They tried to push that first.
[00:42:37] Speaker A: Who lying?
[00:42:39] Speaker E: Who had to tell the truth one day.
[00:42:42] Speaker C: So it's the truth.
[00:42:43] Speaker E: It's only one.
Brandon Brown. Are identical twins. Me and Kyle just.
[00:42:47] Speaker D: They not even related.
[00:42:47] Speaker E: We not even related.
[00:42:48] Speaker C: Y' all not even breathing.
[00:42:49] Speaker A: Ain't that crazy?
[00:42:50] Speaker D: We gotta talk to somebody, Daddy.
One of the daddies out there, Jack.
[00:42:56] Speaker C: And Elves, was a group of twins.
[00:42:58] Speaker D: Twins.
[00:42:58] Speaker C: Twins.
[00:42:58] Speaker A: That would have been dope.
[00:42:59] Speaker F: But now.
[00:42:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: Oh, one more thing. As far as a rappers, like, have any of y' all tried to rap?
[00:43:05] Speaker A: We started up kind of like all the time.
[00:43:07] Speaker B: I'm talking about put some shit out that we put it out. Okay.
[00:43:11] Speaker D: I'm on the first album.
[00:43:14] Speaker A: Cause you know, Chris Brown be rap.
I rapped on Watch youh. But I mean, like, when we first started our group, we was kind of doing all of that.
Look, the name of our group at first first was Twin ak.
[00:43:25] Speaker F: That's right.
[00:43:26] Speaker D: Twin AK was the first.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: Because we thought.
[00:43:28] Speaker D: And the picture was 2A.
[00:43:31] Speaker B: Y' all tripping.
[00:43:32] Speaker A: Real talk.
[00:43:33] Speaker B: Hey, you think you couldn't get on Carson D, right?
[00:43:37] Speaker D: That's why it's Jagged.
[00:43:43] Speaker F: Twins Al and.
[00:43:44] Speaker D: K.
We was just playing off of it. It really stood with Twins Al and Kyle.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: Got you. Well not. Go ahead, tell them how much you love him.
[00:43:53] Speaker C: I love y' all.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: Got love.
[00:43:55] Speaker C: But can y' all do this Tik tok with me before y' all go?
[00:43:56] Speaker D: Absolutely.
[00:43:58] Speaker B: All right. Come on now. Hey, bro. Listen, bro.
For real, man. Like, as a fan and as somebody who's been doing this for a long. I've been in the game 20 years now. And like to see y' all success and is like really a dope thing to watch because it's not a lot of. Especially us, you know what I mean?
[00:44:15] Speaker C: So y' all chill together. Y' all look good.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:23] Speaker C: I can support y' all proudly.
[00:44:29] Speaker E: Sub.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: Tweeting each other and, like, you know what I'm saying? But salute to y' all, man, for being.
[00:44:33] Speaker D: Appreciate that, man. We appreciate the love. Something about us and Cali, man. We always had this little love affair with Cali. And when we put our tickets out for this. For this show on Sunday, it sold out within minutes. So, you know, I just want to tell y' all, we love y' all, like, sincere, real love. Thank y' all, man.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: Jagged Edge is effective immediately.
[00:44:52] Speaker C: You wanna get on the guest list?
Huh?
[00:44:56] Speaker B: Bring your moms.
[00:44:57] Speaker C: My mom ain't coming outside.
[00:45:00] Speaker E: She don't.
[00:45:01] Speaker C: My mom don't even know who I am out here.
And when I find a nigga, I'm still gonna put in that request for y' all to come sing at my wedding.
[00:45:09] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:45:10] Speaker C: Okay. All right.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: They got shows and shit.
[00:45:13] Speaker C: I don't got no budget.
[00:45:15] Speaker F: I'm gonna tell you.
[00:45:16] Speaker D: There ain't no budget.
[00:45:17] Speaker E: We gonna get it worked out.
[00:45:19] Speaker D: That's hilarious.
[00:45:20] Speaker C: Thank y' all.
[00:45:23] Speaker B: It's effective immediately.
