Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, Hip Hop Nation? It's your favorite homegirl, Gina Views.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: We got special guests in the studio. Plural. You know what I'm saying? My brother King Los is here, and Lola Monroe is here. Welcome to the show.
[00:00:17] Speaker C: What's up? What's up, guys? Welcome.
[00:00:19] Speaker D: What's happening?
[00:00:20] Speaker A: You know what? This is, like, I think. And I'm gonna say I'm gonna get this shit out the way right now. I think it's like, two.
Y' all the second or third guest that we had on our show that's way more healthy than me.
Like, way more health. Bougie.
[00:00:33] Speaker D: I don't think that's a hard task, bro.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: Trust me, bro.
[00:00:36] Speaker D: Shit.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: Trust me, bro. Because I'm like, I'm on my. I've been on my journey, you know, I'm pescatarian. I'm three years in.
[00:00:43] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:00:44] Speaker C: That's the good stuff.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? I went to the Dr. Sebi village and got saved and all that.
[00:00:48] Speaker D: Went to Usha village.
[00:00:48] Speaker A: Yeah, Went to Usha. My boy Isaiah, I've been on.
[00:00:50] Speaker D: He got baptized in the.
[00:00:52] Speaker A: I've been. Not in a mineral water.
[00:00:54] Speaker D: No, I'm just saying.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: Yeah, but, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I've been. I take my bit every Sunday. I'm on my. I'm on my moss, I'm on my. All of my herb. What bitters. You take the. Well, it's his regimen.
[00:01:04] Speaker D: Okay. So. Okay.
[00:01:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I take all. I only use his products.
[00:01:06] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:01:07] Speaker A: But I say that to say I'm very interested to hear how y' all do life in this way, because, I mean, aside from the music, we don't talk about that stuff. But I'm very interested in that side of things because I don't think in our communities, it gets talked about a lot.
So welcome to the show.
[00:01:23] Speaker D: But I was early on it, so I stopped talking about it.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Why?
[00:01:29] Speaker D: Because when you early on something, you the weirdo. You. You bigger than the weirdo. Like, and then it was bleeding over to, like, this funny.
So, like, I was on it early. Like, I'm talking about Sabi early, right? And so I'm studying biochemistry, right? Pathology.
Like, I'm studying the body, the human body.
And then I'm coming online saying certain things.
Everything is like, man, shut up and make a song.
You know, like, you were. You rap better before you were vegan and just say it was just like, dumb stuff, like, eat a burger and just rap. So it's like, shut up. And dribble, you know, so.
So since I was so early on, wasn't a. It's a thing now.
It's trendy now. It's a conversation that we can have now.
I remember saying something to one of my aunts about like, turkey bacon or something, and she laid me out like, this is something in the black community.
You can't talk about their food. You can't talk about what they enjoy. And there's a lot of.
There's a lot of emotion that correlates and corresponds with foods.
Right. Because it's biochemistry. Right. So I was so early. I'm 12 years in now. I just don't say nothing. If it's brought up. If we talking, you know, somebody gets sick. If we talking dis ease, you know, you want to. It's a lot of stuff going around. Everybody would just have this little sinus thing. And, you know, if we talking that, then, yeah, I tap in. But like, I'm kind of off just like, trying to get people to be on the train or like, you know, if you. Whatever you want to eat, you eat it. Whatever you want to indulge in, you do it. But I was talking to this kid at Sprouts, and I was educating him on some stuff, and he was like, man, do you put this information on the Internet? Like, he don't even know, really. He didn't even know who I was. Right. And I'm like, damn. Nah, I don't. He's like, bro, you should put this on. On the Internet. And I was like, damn.
So now I kind of feel obligated to jump back out there now that it's a more open discussion and put more of the stuff that I do know, you know? Cause I know a lot of stuff, man. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I might be. This might inspire me. This might be the final. Because for you say how interested you are in hearing it.
I probably need to put more info out there again.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: Yeah. And that could be a separate platform or whatever you want to do on your own. But I just think the reason I'm brought up is cause I get ostracized in the same way. And I think that it's interesting because I'm championing it and I'm trying to tell people.
[00:04:15] Speaker D: Yeah, you're trying to post it. Are you trying to. Cause they feel like it's impeding.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: No, it's not. I think that they just. They don't know.
And I didn't know at one point either. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't know all the different things and effects and stuff like that, but I guess. Well, for you, I guess I did. Were you. Did y' all start y' all thing together, or was it. Were you on your own, vegan and you on your own.
[00:04:38] Speaker C: Well, he. He tapped into it, and he was on his own journey, and I just was paying attention to the things he was watching and listening to, and I was like, damn, okay. I didn't know. We don't know these things. I never knew milk and meat and all these things cause cancer. So I'm the type of person, if you let me know something is bad for me and I didn't know about it, I'll follow the lead.
[00:05:02] Speaker D: So, yeah, it's almost like, immediate. It's like, hold on.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: What?
[00:05:05] Speaker C: I had no idea.
[00:05:06] Speaker D: I'm gonna tell you what did it for me when I realized that there was an industrialized, like, marketing propaganda aimed directly toward us.
You know, when I say us, y' all know, right? I'm like, damn, us.
So, hold on. Wait. So even the criteria of health for, like, when you go. Let's say if you just randomly go to the. Or if you look at the. What do they use, the National Health, whatever it is, and they say, oh, you need. Or let's say you go to even a primary care doctor and you say, like, take my vitals or. And see what I need, what I don't need.
It's not even a proper criteria for you because it's based on someone else.
It's based on another group of people who don't share the same, you know, anatomy. They don't share the same biology as you. You're different, you know, you're selenium based. They're sulfur based. If we were doing an experiment right now, and I just put one drop of something different in something, I changed the. The chemical composition of it.
I. So once you do that, you genetically modify something. So it's. It's. So you're talking about something organic versus a gmo. Do you want to have your health criteria based on something that's genetically modified or. Versus something that's the original, which is, you know, get what I'm. What I'm going without going.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: So I get it.
[00:06:35] Speaker D: So it's like, you could go there, though you feel what I'm saying, But you dig, though you feel me, like.
Because I also believe, too, the game is to be sold, not told. Not in the sense of, like, don't give out the info, but, like, if it's for you, it's for you. So if it's like, they always used to use coded language and stuff when it was time to advance. I think one of the biggest problems is, like, when you look at people like, Dr. Sebi, he was too loud.
You did. Cause he wanted to save everybody.
And one of my most liberating things is, like, getting away from, like, a savior complex, right? If you look at most of the dudes in the conscious communities and all that, like, I was deep.
A lot of them dudes became, you know, they had to have ego deaths. Because when you have so much information, you become God to people. Why? Knowledge is power, right? But I could give you all the wrong information, too. Just because I'm knowledgeable don't mean that it's right, but it's still powerful. How does he retain all that knowledge? Look at his vernacular. Listen to his verbal acuity. Like, I'm one of the ones. If I wanted to be, you know what I'm saying?
It'd be too easy all around the world. But it's like, I believe that, like, a lot of this stuff we need to talk about where we need to talk about it, because even the blockages that they'll put on certain stuff, once you start putting certain information out there, everything don't need to be broadcasted and put everywhere. That's another reason why I, like, if we have the conversation, we have it. If we don't, we don't. I'm not, like, trying to force the conversation. I'm real natural. I hate scripts.
So if it's, like, natural, how you just like, yeah, let's get it. But if it was, like a pre thing, okay, you're gonna get here. We gonna do. I'm like, man, you know me. I like to freestyle. So I don't like scripts. And I just think that a lot of stuff we do. We so loud. If we was gonna bust a move on any front, we so loud, they got us written down, figured out, distracted.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: I got the counterfeit.
[00:08:35] Speaker D: You know what I mean?
[00:08:36] Speaker B: So what was the most difficult thing for you guys to let go? Eating.
[00:08:41] Speaker D: I think it was cheese.
[00:08:43] Speaker C: Not for me, because I never really been a cheese person.
[00:08:47] Speaker D: Dairy?
[00:08:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:48] Speaker D: Milk, Cheese, eggs. Dairy?
[00:08:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:52] Speaker D: Sugar.
Sugar was the hardest first.
[00:08:56] Speaker C: Sugar. Yeah.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: For you.
[00:08:57] Speaker D: Sugar, too.
[00:08:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:58] Speaker B: Because sugar, y' all have some amazing skin.
[00:09:02] Speaker D: Hold on, let me.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[00:09:07] Speaker C: Hold up.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Y' all stupid.
[00:09:11] Speaker C: Okay, okay.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: Y' all skin looks so good.
[00:09:14] Speaker C: Thank you, thank you.
[00:09:15] Speaker D: Because, you know, when you take sugar out your Diet, it takes all the inflammation out your face.
You.
You get hydrated.
You wanna know something funny? Salt hydrates you and sugar dehydrates. You wouldn't see. You wouldn't think it, though, right? Well, not chemical table salt, right? But like sea salt, natural salts, right? Your body is composed of salts and acids and bacterias. So there's a lot of stuff you have that's a part of your health that you probably would see in a negative way. But you need salts like salt will help carry a lot of the hydration to the cells. You know what I'm saying? So when you take sugar out your diet, it changes even the way food tastes to you. You know how, like, you have somebody be like, man, it just tastes too healthy.
Stop eating sugar for a year.
You'd be like, that tastes good.
So the sugar is the greatest drug, it's the greatest manipulator of all things on planet Earth. They put sugar in almost anything they want you to be addicted to. And you can't get away from it because on a biochemical level, if I hugged you, if I kissed you, if I told you you were beautiful, it does almost in a natural way. It does what sugar does in a fake way, in a synthetic way, because it's just. It's a chemical reaction you get. So sugar is feeding this chemical reaction, but the pathology to it is fake because sugar doesn't really assimilate in the body. You know, you get diabetes, you get all types of stuff, you know what I'm saying? You. You lose your eyesight, like, how could that be good, right? And then you got fruits, and they say fruit has sugar, and I hate that because fruit is natural. It has carbon and hydrogen, not a carbohydrate, which would be like the fake version. So you could do fruit and nothing bad would ever happen to you. But if you did sugar, your health would be in serious jeopardy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
[00:11:19] Speaker B: Was there a moment? Okay, so I'm not fully healthy yet, but I'm, like, getting there. But it was because I did a. I had a very bad experience doing a detox. So, like, from my neck down to my ankles, I look like a Chip Ahoy cookie. I broke out, like, really, really bad.
[00:11:34] Speaker D: Do you know what breaking out is?
[00:11:36] Speaker B: It was Persian, right?
[00:11:37] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:38] Speaker D: It's just a detox. If you detox and then you break out, that's the best thing that can happen.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: No, y' all didn't see what I looked like.
[00:11:44] Speaker D: Yeah, because it's all the stuff that's inside you.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: I looked crazy.
[00:11:47] Speaker D: Let me ask you a question. How is this gonna come out?
[00:11:51] Speaker B: I hear what you saying, but I'm on camera.
[00:11:55] Speaker D: What I'm asking you how many. How else can it come out?
[00:11:59] Speaker B: I thought that it would have came out through, like, my urine, my stool or something.
[00:12:04] Speaker D: Or you throw up or you sweat.
[00:12:07] Speaker C: It comes out the ears.
[00:12:08] Speaker D: Or people say, I'm sick. What's happening? Or I have a fever. Oh, what's wrong? My body temperature rose. Oh, now I'm sweating. I'm in the bed sweating. It's just. Your body is the perfect mechanism. It's working. If you got. If you had all that happening, that's how much stuff was underneath your skin and coming out of your cells. So it was forcing its way out because of the detox.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Well, I did it wrong.
[00:12:32] Speaker C: What you do.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: So I didn't change my eating. I'm still eating junk food, taking detox vitamins. So when it came out through my skin.
[00:12:40] Speaker D: Vitamins.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: I mean, herbs.
[00:12:42] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So when it came out and I was on what I did, like, three days of it. Yeah, it was short, and it was like. It was just instant. But I brought that up to ask you guys. Was there a specific moment that made you change your eating?
[00:12:56] Speaker C: Well, for me, I was just. Yeah, for me, I was just paying attention to all the stuff that he was watching, like, all the savy stuff. And when you.
[00:13:05] Speaker D: This is before, like, what the health too. This was like. So before that, did you see.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: What the hell is that? The McDonald's.
[00:13:12] Speaker D: That's the one where they showed all the stuff about the food industry of how, like, the food is like, you know, how what really happens with the food.
I think when people saw that, it shocked the world. But I had already, like, was watching other things before they even. Probably five, six years before that came out. And she would see it and she would hear, like, the stuff that I was. I would show her the different stuff. Because it was, like, alarming to me that I didn't even know stuff. I didn't even know that it was bad for you like that. You know what I'm saying? I think we both were just. We thought we were healthy.
[00:13:44] Speaker C: Yeah. Because we was, like, eating baked chicken,
[00:13:47] Speaker D: turkey rice, and, yeah, we was bougie with it. We thought, all right, baked chicken, not fried chicken.
[00:13:54] Speaker C: But when I saw all that information and what. And how it just causes the cancer in your body and the mucus and how everything is mucus when you have diseases. And it was just like, okay, I'm Straight.
[00:14:06] Speaker D: I'm doing that. How they treat that, how they treat the animals, right?
How they, how they farm those, those, the cows, the chickens and the cows and how they treat them. They abuse them. The torture, it's abuse, you feel me? And then it's like, okay, so did a chick. You wait for the chickens to die or you kill them.
So just think about, you got a chicken that can't move. It has a thing around its neck and it has a tube in its mouth and it's just being fed, right. And it can only go there, don't move around. It's not. You know how you say some chickens say farm raised. They trying to allow you to know that this one was, wasn't tortured. Tortured, right? Yeah, but. Yeah, but then it. How they put them on the conveyor belts and chop them up and grind them.
[00:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:58] Speaker D: You know, a lot of that stuff is just processed like nuggets is just paste, you know, McDonald's. That stuff is.
[00:15:04] Speaker C: Even the hormones, even all. Everything that those animals are going through when they're getting. You get it, you get it because the energy doesn't die. So when you feeling depressed and you feeling all these up and down emotions, it's because you're ingesting the energy that those animals was going through when they were getting.
[00:15:22] Speaker D: When you're afraid of something, they say, stop being a. What, what? A chicken.
If. If they going to, if they going to disrespect you, that was a rap bar, huh? If they, if they going to disrespect you, they call you a shrimp. If they say something ain't right, it's fishy. Yeah, right.
If you think about the way words assimilate to you, like how I could say something to you and it would elate you, and how I could say something to you and it would degrade you, why the hell is it attached so closely to the things you eat?
Like, why is those things all degrading terms?
There's no good way to say that to nobody, right? So even just the resonant frequency of how we deem those things, once you ingest them, how could you evade it?
Right? When you're extrapolating a small piece of nutrient from something that pathologically is damaging you work, it's risk versus reward. If you worked here all day and then they paid you $5 at the end of the week, you'd be like, yo, where's my reward for all this work? So your body is like, you gave me a chicken for protein. Why you ain't Just give me a protein.
You thought the only way I could get my protein was through this stingy ass chicken. This chicken is holding on to all the good stuff and I got to extrapolate it from this stingy. And I got to go through weed, all the bad stuff. So by the time your body go through that after you eat, that's what they call the itis. Now you tired, now you're sleepy. I'm going. I'm going to take a nap.
Because your body is fighting to digest this bullshit. Then you got parasites all coming out of that shit. Worms, you dig? So it's just not worth it. It's just a lot. At least detox. At least have your detox moments. I ain't telling nobody. Be vegan or have your moments.
[00:17:06] Speaker B: We do need more of these type of conversations though.
[00:17:09] Speaker D: But I think it's intense for people.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: I think it is intense for people.
[00:17:12] Speaker D: If you have your moments where you flush and you understand fasting. I think that's a better route to just telling people, yo, be vegan or be pescatarian or, you know. Cause it's like nobody makes lifestyle changes drastically, like, unless you really one of them ones. Huh? What? Oh, say less facts, everybody. Not like that. I could tell you something that would benefit you tomorrow and you wouldn't even do it right. And so I think just letting people know, yo detox at least five days out the month. Flush out, yo, make sure you're getting enough water. Press, press your juice. Stop drinking juice out the carton. Like, I think making certain switches first is the small steps that you need to take to even be concerned about health study.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Do not take not taking a huge leap because it's spiritual.
[00:18:01] Speaker D: It's spiritual. But if you watch some stuff, if you studied, did your own independent research, you could come to your own conclusion than me persuading you.
You know what I mean?
[00:18:12] Speaker A: So I want to talk about some music. Obviously, both of you guys are talented in your own right.
I guess we'll start with Lola. Like, spooky is one of them things. The artwork is very.
Is very. Was it Michelle Pfeifferish?
[00:18:28] Speaker C: That was the Catwoman. He designed it. He designed the artwork for me.
[00:18:32] Speaker A: Oh, that's what's up.
[00:18:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: So that was my favorite Catwoman. I was about to ask you that because there was been a few, like Halle and Michelle. There was another Halle, my favorite. Of course. Halle's my favorite.
You know what I'm saying? But Michelle did her big one, though.
[00:18:46] Speaker D: I ain't did a big one. Just like Jack Nicholson did his big one on the Joker, but then, nah, he, he took. But then Young Boy Heath came through.
[00:18:54] Speaker C: Tim Burton is like one of my favorite directors.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:57] Speaker C: And he's the one that did that.
[00:18:58] Speaker D: Tim Burton is out of here.
[00:19:00] Speaker C: He. Oh, you gotta. He did the Night.
[00:19:03] Speaker D: What's that called?
[00:19:03] Speaker C: Night Before Christmas.
[00:19:04] Speaker D: The Night Before Christmas. Tim Burton.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: So Spooky is a song to me. It's one of them records that's like. It's dope. It's dope hip hop, like, but it just got a different. I don't know how to, how to even explain it. It's like a, it's kind of like a funky vibe to it, but it's like some real hip hop shit.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: One is, is this different for you? Like kinda like, I mean, independently, obviously you've been independent for a while, but is this different from you stepping out there and doing something that is like kind of self contained? Like, he did the artwork. I don't know who produced the record either.
[00:19:39] Speaker C: Dez.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: Benny, Des Benny. Okay, but is this record a different for you? And then also, I know you don't probably have people wanna ask you about the project and all that shit, but we'll avoid that. But is it kind of leaning in this way? Like the music that you're making now, is it leaning in this way?
[00:19:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I've always been a hip hop girl. I've always been into just hip hop lyricism and I've always loved experimenting with different sounds.
So I think that the difference now is it's more evolved.
[00:20:14] Speaker D: The sound, the production trap music and the music that's going on right now is way more of a stretch for her.
Yeah, she's a hip hop baby.
[00:20:23] Speaker C: I'm a hip hop.
[00:20:24] Speaker D: She come up under Lauryn Hill and if you remember when she was with Wiz, when she was with, with tgod, right.
She was, it was all just bars and flows and stuff like that. So it was, it was reminiscent to Spooky in a way.
[00:20:39] Speaker A: Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
[00:20:41] Speaker C: All the freestyles I would put out would be like hip hop base.
[00:20:43] Speaker D: She wants to be more boom bap.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:20:46] Speaker D: And like, she don't. She, I, I, we got trap shit and we got like, you know what I'm saying?
But her heart is in like that boom bap hip hop.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:20:57] Speaker D: You know, she east coast, so if you.
[00:21:00] Speaker A: Okay, bet. So then for you. I know, I already know. I'm very familiar with your lineage. You can go multiple places. Like you, you're, you're ambidextrous when it comes to your approach to music.
[00:21:10] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: Are you.
Do you pick a lane and then like, I'm firing right here? Or do you just create music and it just comes out? How it comes out? Like, you be like, I'm gonna go this direction. I'm gonna do this with me.
[00:21:21] Speaker D: I let the music dictate to me what it's trying to express.
[00:21:27] Speaker A: Once you hear the song, like, once you hear the.
[00:21:29] Speaker D: No, once I hear. Once I hear the beat, I let the music dictate to me what it's expressing.
That's my connection with the music.
Allowing the music to breathe and have a life of its own. I'm not trying to, like, force my concept onto the music.
If the beat is a certain way, I'm respectful of how the beat is. Because I could be.
I could be lyrical. I could be. But sometimes the beat is not asking for all that. You know what I'm saying? Sometime the beat is like, nah, nigga, I'm trying to breathe. You gotta let me go for four bars. The beat wanna talk too. The beat is an instrument too. The beat is the music.
Me, rapping is not music.
Rapping is the artistry. The music has to have a place. You listen to music. Back in the day, it would be seven minutes long because the music had its own part.
It's like, okay, y' all did y' all thing. Lenny Williams, you sang Everybody Temptations. Y' all did y' all thing. Now it's my turn. Ba boom, boom, boom. And just playing. And now you can just dance. Cause you don hear nobody in your ear saying nothing disrupting you. You let the frequency of the music take over. So I have those moments.
Then I got moments where I'm just like.
I might just come up with something and I'd be like, I do a voice note, and then I go take and build a whole song around a voice note. You know that. That I did. And I think one of the biggest misnomers about me is that I'm just so hip hop.
Cause, like, I've written for everybody. I've written everything.
Every type of music you can imagine I've written.
So I'm not just in one lane. So I do it all, bro. You know, from freestyling my songs with no pen sometime, to sitting home writing it and pinning it, you know what I'm saying? To just playing a beat, feeling what I vibe off the beat, or coming up with something acapella than having something made and created around the idea.
I like to Go multiple different ways and multiple different genres too.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Do you. Do you have any plans on doing more battle rap?
[00:23:36] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: You got a card already?
[00:23:40] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I got a battle next month.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: Has the announcement already?
[00:23:46] Speaker D: No.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: Can we make the announcement right now?
Is it URL.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: It's already signed and ready to go.
Yeah, it's a. Oh, shit.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: It's a big stage, small room.
[00:23:59] Speaker D: Nah, nah, nah. It ain't really too many more big stages right now in battle rap because, like, it's getting more intimate again just because of, like, it reached such a climatic moment with so much going on that, you know, it's back. I think it's getting back just down to. Just to that gritty, you know, all the big stuff. It's like, it's getting back to like, what you saying and how you saying it. But me, myself, I like, I stay away from battle rap as much as I can.
Just so, like, I'm picking and choosing the right moments to, you know, to step into that culture. And I'm very respectful of battle rap. I'm not trying to, like, OD and just.
I could just battle back to back to back all the time. But, you know, I just take my time, take some time off, focus on hip hop on this side, and then, you know, take a little battle to keep everything sharp.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: I think that's what makes the battles more anticipated, though, because the battlers that you see every day or every week on a new car is not interested anymore. If I keep seeing you battling so much, I would prefer that, like, somebody likes to surf. Surf a battle with like four times, three times a year maybe, you know. But that would make the battle more anticipated because we ain't seen them in so long versus somebody who I see every week, they in spaces battling and they, you know, they. They on stage battling.
[00:25:27] Speaker A: Right?
[00:25:28] Speaker D: Everybody I battle had.
Nah, everybody I battled had like probably almost 200 battles.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:38] Speaker D: And I.
This will be now my fifth battle.
So I'm very much an amateur in battle rap.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: Oh, he doing that.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: Oh, he doing that.
[00:25:48] Speaker D: Bullshit. No, no. If we doing credentials, let's take it. Let's take somebody and say they a dj, right?
And you know that experience that you have, you've done major television, right? Major networks, major events, radio, club. Like, there's a criteria to the work. Yeah. If there's a new guy, let's say he's ill at DJing, but he just haven't done.
He has to learn the ropes.
You know, when I. When I go to battle rap, I don't have this Arrogance, like, because I'm King Los and because I can rap the way I rap, I'm about to go and just control it. Nah, you get. You getting that. First of all, they don't want to hear none of that. They already looking at you like, you know, you might have just made too much money for them.
You are outsider.
And you only here because.
Because your career ass.
That's another thing about like when you were in the industry. Oh, you only, you only over here. Cause nigga, you. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, the battle rap niggas ain't trying to hear that shit. So what, you gonna just walk up in there? I had four battles, nigga. Real life, I'm battling that battle 200 times.
Who can spin around a circle, their eyes closed and know where everything at? No, I'm feeling my way out. I'm seeing how the punch lines work. I remember I'm thinking something gonna punch on this and they gonna react. And they reacted a bar early and threw my whole off. So I'm like, I'm learning, okay.
I'm like, okay. You gotta learn the nuances of that. You can't just, you can't just walk in that.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: It's a different energy for sure.
[00:27:26] Speaker D: It's. And it got a. It's a cadence, there's a pace, there's a. They told me they ain't want to hear all that lyrical miracle. That's what they told me. They like, man, that's lyrical miracle you doing over there. You better come over here. So you gotta slow down, you gotta perform.
So when I'm saying I'm very much an amateur in battle rap, bro, I've done. This will be my fifth battle. That's. I'm still an amateur, so that should give me more credence. If I'm this good as a rookie in the game, then I probably have really good potential in a higher ceiling for when I really.
If I do ever get 50 battles in, then I'm be a wizard. But shit, look where Mook Lux and them niggas is at, bro. They, you know, I respect them guys on that stage. You know what I'm saying? DNA, even I battled him. But that man, he know his way around that whole stage. Certain things I'm still not comfortable with in battle. Like, I don't just full fledged freestyle and I'm a freestyle master. But I'm like, okay, take your time.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: I think the respect that the rappers have. Cause I've been told before that you're the rapper's favorite rapper and the respect that these people have for you, I don't even think a DNA would have battled you if you wasn't like that.
[00:28:41] Speaker D: Yeah, I told you I didn't want to battle DNA. I told him. I told him that I want to battle. I just didn't think he was on my level lyrically.
And I was like, bro, I don't.
Yeah. And then he kept antagonizing me on the Internet and being like, oh, you running. You're right. And it was like, he backed me into a corner, like. And I'm like. I told the, like, yo, Studios, open 247 if you want some smoke, go.
This is what we do. We get like, this go. You know, right now, rap. They open up Instagram, tomorrow, it's out. And I'll. If it's worth my time, I'll give you that.
He like, no, come see me in my. And I'm like, all right, man.
Eventually, he walked me down, and I'm like, all right, let's do it. You know what I'm saying? I was what?
That was my third battle. DNA was my third battle. My first battle was Head Ice.
Second battle was Daylight. Yeah. Third was DNA, fourth was Ill Will.
So they've been throwing people at me to, like, you know, shut me up.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: You think it's a consorted effort?
[00:29:50] Speaker D: Why wouldn't it be? I ain't saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying if it's battle rap, like, that's if a coming over to battle rap, having no industry, nigga went over to battle rap and had it easy.
Cause if you a name, you get a name.
You don't. You're not a name, and you get a no name.
So I'm a name.
Who else they gonna throw at me? They wanna make their best match.
So I'm gonna get the top. The top guys, you know.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: Next month is your fifth battle.
[00:30:24] Speaker D: Yup. Rare Breed.
I don't know.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: That's crazy. She. That's her world, bro.
[00:30:30] Speaker D: I'm trying to prove who you doing it with.
[00:30:32] Speaker A: I'm telling you.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: When y' all gonna announce it?
[00:30:34] Speaker D: I don't know if it's gonna be an announcement. I don't know if it's that type of situation. It's just.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Oh, so pop out. It's a surprise.
[00:30:39] Speaker D: I'm outside.
[00:30:40] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:30:41] Speaker D: I'm outside, man. We outside, man. I'm just letting you know that there
[00:30:45] Speaker B: is another okay in battle rap. It's like, nothing is off limits.
[00:30:50] Speaker D: Everything is for me. There's off limit stuff.
[00:30:55] Speaker B: What's the worst thing or what's been like the worst thing or something that you just heard during the battle about yourself that just wasn't true? Cause battle rap, the battlers take it far.
[00:31:09] Speaker D: I wouldn't say it.
[00:31:10] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:31:11] Speaker D: I wouldn't say it. Cause I'm with the Purge.
I'm with all that.
I want to be hit with the most egregious lie.
Say the most ridiculous, crazy shit you can say.
Cause I'm. I'm really like.
I'm really different. I love it say that shit. And I don't rebuttal that shit either. I don't even be like, I only make my material based on what a nigga gonna say to me.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:40] Speaker D: I have not rapped yet based on what a nigga. I know what a nigga gonna say every time in my next battle. I guarantee you a nigga gonna say something about puff 1000% for sure.
He better.
Cause what else you gonna say? Nigga, I ain't gonna lie. My life damn near perfect.
[00:32:02] Speaker B: They finna use that.
[00:32:04] Speaker D: My life damn near perfect, bro.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: This a angle second round. I can see it right now.
[00:32:08] Speaker D: I got a family, man. Yeah. I got the baddest chick. Yeah. You feel me? I'm handsome, smart, like, I don't be in. I don't be outside. I don't be in. Shit you gotta use. That's the only angle.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: That's the long hanging from.
[00:32:23] Speaker D: You know what I'm saying? That. That's the.
You better. That's headlines. That's natural. Everybody know that's my man. So you gotta use that. You gotta try to interweave and tie that into something other than that. What the what the fuck you gonna say? It's gonna be a compliment battle. Other than that. Yeah, it's gonna be a compliment compliment battle. Nigga, you so ill, nigga. You got so much skill. Like, what else you gonna say? So a nigga gotta be able to drag that for three rounds.
What else you really gonna say? Oh, we gonna rap.
It's really just gonna be about rap. Who rap the best?
That's not wise. Yeah, so it's like, let's go, like, purge. I love it. It's like, do it, do it, y' all.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Both. Well, you. You just spoke on that. But y' all both have experience being signed to rappers and a lot of. A lot of artists.
[00:33:12] Speaker D: You calling Puff a rapper?
[00:33:13] Speaker A: I mean, he's an artist. I look at him as an artist.
[00:33:15] Speaker D: I wrote all his raps.
[00:33:17] Speaker B: Oh, cheap.
[00:33:17] Speaker A: Okay, well, I Look at him as an artist.
[00:33:20] Speaker D: He definitely an artist.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: I look at him as an artist.
[00:33:23] Speaker D: He's less of a rapper, more of a CEO.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: Y' all have both been signed to artists.
[00:33:26] Speaker D: Okay, okay.
[00:33:27] Speaker C: I wasn't officially signed, but I was first lady of Taylor King, so.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: You weren't. Okay. You weren't officially signed?
[00:33:33] Speaker D: No.
[00:33:33] Speaker A: Okay, bet.
[00:33:34] Speaker D: But I know what you mean.
[00:33:35] Speaker A: Being underneath, you're under the brother of an artist, and now there's this independent movement where, like, everybody feel like they can DIY their career. And I think they underestimate the challenge that that is.
Can y' all share from both of y', all, from one of whoever want to go first, but from both of y' all perspective, the challenge of being under an artist umbrella and then also pivoting to being independent.
[00:33:57] Speaker C: Well, to be honest, working with Wiz was a really good experience for me because he's such a free spirit. He definitely allowed me the space to explore different sounds and just really. Just really be in a studio. I was locked in.
[00:34:19] Speaker D: Lived in a studio, like, 12 hours.
[00:34:22] Speaker C: I had 12 hours every single day for two months. Yeah, he gave me his man.
So for me, it was a really good experience being under Wiz.
[00:34:35] Speaker D: It was like being in the gym, just constantly sharpening your sword with your jump shot.
She was in every day, every single day.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: But then also the pivot to, like, being an independent artist. Like, I want to speak to that landscape too.
Everybody think it's easy.
[00:34:52] Speaker D: I feel like Wiz always move like an independent. He always moved like an indie.
He's somebody that's so business savvy. Like, he know everything that's going on with his shit. He understands, like, what his single is, how to work. I remember calling Wiz, like, I remember calling Wiz, like, probably a couple years ago. Cause I hadn't put nothing out in a long time. And I was like, yo, Wiz, how you drop a mixtape?
[00:35:16] Speaker A: You asked him that?
[00:35:17] Speaker D: Yeah, because everything changed.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: You dropped the loop, nigga.
[00:35:20] Speaker D: Everything changed, nigga. How do you drop a mixtape?
[00:35:23] Speaker A: Nigga, you just put it out.
[00:35:24] Speaker D: Okay, so. But when I was dropping it, it was blog era. It was hot new hip hop. It was that Piff.
So it had been some years, and I. And then he had dropped some shit. I'm like, yo, Wiz, how. How do you drop a mixtape? Like, specifically, not how do you drop a. How does a person drop a mixtape? How does Wiz Khalifa.
[00:35:43] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:35:44] Speaker D: How do you drop a mixtape? Where it's like, you know, on cushion orange? Like, how you dropping it and then it's like, okay, well everything is platform now. So even if you drop a mixtape, you drop it like you treat it like it's an album.
He was just like, just giving me certain, certain pointers or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And so he. I feel like he's just always an artist who know how to stay in the loop.
He has longevity for so long.
Right.
Gonna do project with Snoop doing this here. Like, so I'm like just asking him. But like that independent thing is about knowing where the algorithm is, how to attack the algorithm. But maintain your integrity.
Be present, be visual, be your own marketing and promotion. Keep that phone, you know, the capacity. Don't. Don't fill your phone to capacity. Like, keep it. So you can always record, you can always film and promote yourself.
Just being independent is just like you got to pay your own money for everything.
That was the biggest transition for me from going from RCA because I was with RCA last.
Yeah. Having a budget with Sony and then having to pay for everything. Everything, like pay.
You know what I'm saying? I. I probably spent like when I probably spent. Spent like a quarter million just in night. I ain't putting nothing out, just in recording, photo shoots, videos, you know, whatever.
And I have probably like five, six albums, but I didn't even release nothing. Yeah. You know I'm saying. So spending all that money to put out your own shit just let you know, like, damn. It's way easier when you got a label that's gonna give you a budget and all you got to do is sign off on the thing and you can go to studio all night. How she was in the studio all night. That cost that she was at Paramount.
[00:37:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:37:58] Speaker D: 12 hours every day.
You know what that is? If you try to do that.
That's. You know what I'm saying? So that's 1500 a day.
Yeah. So that. I think that's the biggest thing. I don't think marketing promotion is as hard these days because you can go viral. You can keep your phone on. You could do stuff like this independently. This helps you get out, you know? You know, I go viral off the freestyles. I go to Sway, I go to la Leakers, it's up. So I have my own niche with her. I tell her, n you beautiful, you gotta use that. Cause that's what people gon. That'll get her a million impressions just walking down the street. So all, you know, you gotta make some posts and then, hey, y', all, I'm dropping a freestyle. Freestyle, rap. On the Internet. We got freestyles loaded.
Keep rapping. Show them that you do this, that you bar up. Just stay present.
I think that's better for direct to consumer in the day we in than labels. Labels don't really know how to get to the people, right? They want you after you didn't got to the people. They don't. They don't really know how to break. They having a very. They come off very generic trying to get. The algorithms are very generic, right? So I'm not mad at that. It's probably the only thing is the money.
That's the only thing. You want somebody, you want to spend somebody else bag, right? Like, you know, I mean, unless you are putting out the material, getting the roi, the return on your investment, like. Like a sauce walker. Somebody was like, yo, I put out my music like apartment, apartment buildings. Everything's independent. All my art is independent. Once you got that structure, then you can rinse and repeat. But until you get to the point where you putting out high volumes of, you know, content, you gonna not see a lot of return.
So holding onto the music ain't helping if you independent.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: Is it ever difficult for you guys as a couple to give the other person constructive criticism?
[00:39:54] Speaker D: No. Nah.
I taught her how to rap.
So it's like, you know what I'm saying? When I first met her mama, she was the vixen, you know, Angel, Lola Love, you know, and she was like, she wanted to do music, so I'm like, okay.
They wanted me to write for her. And I was like, I do you want better I teach you how to rap.
Cause I'm like, I didn't like the idea of writing for nobody back then.
I was still a selfish artist. Like, nigga, I don't wanna be running around writing for nobody. So I taught her how to rap. And it was a tough process. When she learned how to rap, it showed me like, damn, she is like. She is good. Like, she got real good, real fast. Probably the fastest person I ever seen. Learn how to fucking just rhyme. Double time, fast, slow punchlines. She got one where she was doing like. I had the alphabetic arsenal. Arsenal rhythm ticket actually. Like, I'm doing straight A's. She got one. You was doing like, what ours? You was doing Rs. Really? It wasn't Bs.
[00:40:58] Speaker C: Was it Bs? No, it was Rs.
[00:41:00] Speaker D: It was Bs.
[00:41:01] Speaker C: Was it Bs.
[00:41:02] Speaker D: What's the rap? What's the rap?
[00:41:03] Speaker C: I don't remember the rap.
[00:41:04] Speaker D: That shit where how it start?
[00:41:05] Speaker C: I Can't remember.
[00:41:06] Speaker D: You capping, man.
[00:41:07] Speaker C: I swear to God, I can't remember.
[00:41:09] Speaker D: So. Yeah, but we don't got no problem with the constructive criticism, because it's a team game.
I want her to. For the, you know, the best. The best look that she can have.
So it's like, if I say, like, yo, nah.
Or I. When I'm doing my shit, I go to her, hey, what you. What you think about this? Even when I'm doing my battles, I go rap all my shit to her. Would you. Is that. That's gonna hit.
She giving me the critic. If she's like. If she, like, don't feel her way. Okay, fuck that.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: So it ain't like, basically like one of y' all don't like something and the other person don't get dinner that day.
[00:41:46] Speaker C: Hell no.
Hell no. Like, I be trying to know. Like, I want to know. I like. It was always important for me to get really, really good at rapping. Because when I wanted to transition into music, it wasn't like, now where you can look like a vixen. You could look how you know you got a body. All these.
[00:42:08] Speaker D: This look.
[00:42:09] Speaker C: And you could make it in music. I broke down those lines.
[00:42:12] Speaker D: She crawled so these girls could walk. Let's tell the truth.
[00:42:15] Speaker C: So nobody.
[00:42:16] Speaker B: You guys met.
[00:42:17] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:42:18] Speaker C: Working together, music. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:42:20] Speaker D: Nobody wanted to hear Vixen rap, bro. Let's keep it real.
[00:42:23] Speaker C: They wasn't trying to.
[00:42:24] Speaker D: They wouldn't even give her a chance.
She would come out on stage, boo.
Just because she. This girl is like this.
[00:42:32] Speaker C: You couldn't look like this.
[00:42:33] Speaker D: They didn't even want to hear that shit.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: You didn't get pretty privileged.
[00:42:36] Speaker C: No, it worked against me.
[00:42:38] Speaker D: It worked against me.
[00:42:39] Speaker C: So I had to. I had to prove myself.
[00:42:42] Speaker D: And it's. Cause she was already known. I was relentless with it as a vixen. And it almost was disrespect.
Like, who the fuck you think you is to come over here and rap? Like, we don't wanna hear that shit. Stay over there. Stay cute. We don't wanna hear that shit. And then back then, she was more of a. She was more of a facade at first, because it was like she had the costumes, she had the. I remember when they. When they was like. I told her. Cause she was getting shit made like, getting. You know, the.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: We saw that on Love and hip hop, right? No, we didn't see that.
Y' all didn't do Love and hip hop.
[00:43:20] Speaker D: No, no.
[00:43:21] Speaker C: We had a show on E.
Platinum
[00:43:24] Speaker D: Life on E. We never did love and hip hop. But I, I told her, right? Cause she used to perform and she be like walking on the stage doing it. The one day I told her, I said, yo, you gotta stop this shit, this act, the fucking costume. Cause I'm talking about, she would have niggas come make the outfits before shows. I was just like, mind you, we wasn't a couple.
So I'm like, yo, I gotta tell this girl this shit look ridiculous. It look like you playing a game, you know? So I told her, I said, first of all, stop walking back and forth on the stage. You look like you don't know where you belong.
Stand in the middle of the stage. You ever see Lil Kim? She stand in the middle of that stage. She get low, she command the crowd from the middle. You have to be a fucking rapper. One, two, these outfits gotta go. You don't look like hip hop. You look like. It looked like a Balenciaga fashion show at that time. Cause it was the spikes, the, the glasses with the spy. All the extra'd out shit in that era, right? All the girls is doing it. But I'm just like, you gotta get into the hip hop of this shit, right? Think Missy, think Lauryn Hill, think Lil Kim, think Foxy. I don't know what this shit is.
And that's when I think it really clicked to her to not come off like a video vixen that's trying to rap.
But a girl who was a vixen wanted to transition into something that she was passionate about, learned how to rap, and then developed her skill to prove to people that she deserved respect.
That's what happened. And I told her, I said, I promise you, you're gonna get your rap respect one day. I promise you. But you gotta pay attention. Her timing was so bad. I used to get so frustrated.
I'm like, bro, your timing is so off. And I taught her how to get her timing right. We worked on it, Worked on it. I said, yo, one day they're gonna respect you for rap. You can't see it now, but I promise you, they gonna respect you for rapping. Niggas be telling me like, yo, she burnt you on that joint. Da da da da. I'm like, okay, well we won then.
[00:45:27] Speaker B: And how you get him together?
[00:45:30] Speaker D: Get me in what way?
[00:45:33] Speaker C: Like, in what way?
[00:45:34] Speaker D: What do I do?
[00:45:35] Speaker B: Actually? Who shot? They shot me.
What'd you say?
[00:45:40] Speaker D: Well, I shot my shot. I chased outta Wendy's.
[00:45:44] Speaker C: Yeah, but this was before we even.
[00:45:47] Speaker D: My shot, my shot. You gave me your manager's Phone number.
[00:45:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I did. I did.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Don't speak. Can you tell me the story real quick?
[00:45:56] Speaker D: She gonna lie.
[00:45:58] Speaker A: Don't speak.
[00:45:58] Speaker D: Cause she gonna say, don't speak. Did you hear what she just said?
[00:46:00] Speaker A: I wanna hear from her perspective.
[00:46:02] Speaker D: But did you hear what she just said?
[00:46:03] Speaker A: Can I hear her pov?
[00:46:05] Speaker D: What?
[00:46:05] Speaker A: Okay, tell me. Just real quick. Just real quick. Cause we got. I want you to rap. Just real quick. Go ahead,
[00:46:13] Speaker D: go ahead.
[00:46:13] Speaker C: He could say he.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: No, fuck that.
[00:46:15] Speaker D: You know why? Look here. You know why? Hit.
Cause her memory. Not like.
It's not that she. It's her. It's the way she remembers shit.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Oh. Cause you just. Cause you was, like, telling her no. Remember I chased you out to Wendy's?
[00:46:26] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. Remember that?
[00:46:28] Speaker A: She like, oh, shit.
[00:46:29] Speaker D: That was our first. That was our first encounter. She was. Nigga, I was in Wendy's. I was in D.C. after the club.
She lived in D.C.
she come in Wendy's to use the bathroom, but they locked the doors. At that time of night at 2am they locked the bathroom door. Ain't no bathroom. I'm in the line getting nuggets.
Dang.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: Thank God you wasn't a vegan yet.
[00:46:52] Speaker D: None of us was vegan.
Thank God she wasn't one, right?
So we. I'm in the line with the homies, and I just see this girl from the side view. And I'm like, the fuck?
[00:47:04] Speaker A: What's going on?
[00:47:05] Speaker D: She had, like, went to the bathroom. So I'm like, all right, whatever.
Then she walked back. I'm like, yo, fuck that.
She was going out the door because the bathroom was locked.
I chased her into the parking lot, knocked on the window. It was raining, drizzling. I knocked on the window like.
She rolled down the window like this.
[00:47:23] Speaker A: I'm like, yo, what's the first thing you said?
[00:47:25] Speaker D: I gotta be your friend or something.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: Oh, that's good.
[00:47:30] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: No, it's not.
[00:47:31] Speaker A: It's not.
[00:47:31] Speaker D: That is good.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:47:32] Speaker D: That is good. That is. She.
[00:47:34] Speaker A: I be looking for shit to use.
[00:47:35] Speaker D: Let me tell you.
[00:47:36] Speaker A: Say I'll be fucked up.
[00:47:37] Speaker D: Girls don't got no fucking game. And don't never listen to a girl tell you about game.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: I don't have game either.
[00:47:42] Speaker D: Honesty is the best way.
[00:47:44] Speaker A: That's what I said.
[00:47:45] Speaker D: I said, hey, I gotta be your friend or something. What? That's gold.
Cause it was the truth. I gotta. If we can at least.
[00:47:53] Speaker A: I've said, I gotta know if we
[00:47:55] Speaker D: can at least be friends. Right? We start out as friends, but she Gave me her manager number because I didn't know she was a big deal. Like, she's, you know, so she like, I can't just meet people in public. But she didn't tell me that. She just gave me the number. So I'm thinking I got the number.
My smooth ass.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: Text.
[00:48:11] Speaker D: No, nigga, you called too smooth. Oh, no, Too smooth. Booked her two weeks, waited two weeks.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: That's not good.
[00:48:19] Speaker D: No, back then it is when you meet a bad. Back then, bad chicks was unapproachable, bro. This ain't this new era in. Out here, outside this nasty stuff. This is when you meant a bad. A bad chicken. You couldn't even approach her. She wouldn't even talk to people.
You remember when pretty girls used to not talk to people? How old are you?
[00:48:38] Speaker A: 40.
[00:48:39] Speaker D: All right. I'm a little bit older than you.
Pretty girls. I'm a little bit older than you. Pretty girls would not talk to people. They were unapproachable. It'd be like, boy, how dare you approach. I am beautiful. It's not like now, the more beautiful a girl is, the more ran through she is, bro. Back then. So I'm like, play it cool.
I' ma call her later. If you call her the next day or that night, you too pressed, bro.
[00:49:03] Speaker B: Did you know she gave you her manager's number?
[00:49:05] Speaker A: No.
[00:49:05] Speaker B: So what, you just hit the manager with the wid Two weeks later?
[00:49:08] Speaker D: No. Two weeks later I called.
Nigga answered the phone.
Why is a nigga answering the phone? I'm still gonna press the line. Yeah, what's up? Can I. What's up? Lola? Can I speak to Lola?
[00:49:19] Speaker C: It wasn't Lola.
Was it Lola? Angel.
[00:49:24] Speaker D: Angel. Lola. He was Angel. Lola love.
I ain't asked for Angel.
Maybe I did ask for Angel. Maybe I did ask for Angel.
[00:49:31] Speaker A: Neither one of y' all remember?
[00:49:32] Speaker D: No. Maybe I did ask for Angel.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: What year is this?
[00:49:37] Speaker D: What?
This is back when?
No, it's before 07. I was signed to 07.
[00:49:42] Speaker C: 06.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: Oh, so it was 20 years ago?
[00:49:44] Speaker D: I was signed to 07.
[00:49:45] Speaker A: Okay, I understand why y' all don't remember.
[00:49:47] Speaker D: That's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. We've been together for 20 years. Y' all thought this was new?
[00:49:50] Speaker A: No, I'm just saying. Yeah, why you don't remember?
[00:49:52] Speaker D: We've been together for 20 piece. So the manager was like, yeah, I'm a manager.
Hung up on that.
Seen her at the club.
We was walking out the club at the same time.
I'm like, oh, yeah, all right.
Just Walk past her, right? She had a calendar release.
I had a calendar in my hand, right? Go to the office. I put a calendar up on the wall.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: Wait, you had it on you at the club?
[00:50:22] Speaker D: She was giving it out. It was our calendar release.
Calendar release at the club, right?
Walked past it or outside. Yeah, whatever. I was like, oh, that must be Mike. Cause that was her manager name at the time. I was like, oh, that must be Mike. It was a little nigga beside her, right? Kept walking, right?
Put a calendar up. I told my man, I said, yo, that's gonna be my girl. Yo.
I said, that's gonna be my girl. But I wasn't gonna try her no more, though.
Cause.
[00:50:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, you manifested her.
[00:50:51] Speaker D: I wasn't gonna try her, though. Like, in public, out at clubs. I wasn't gonna try her like that, right?
I wasn't gonna try her like that. So I'm like, all right, it's not gonna happen no more. It's gonna have to happen natural.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:04] Speaker D: Yo, my lawyer called me, right? Just put anything. My lawyer called me.
He said.
He said, dude, you're not gonna believe it, but the girl. The girl. The one you love. The girl you love, she's coming to my office.
[00:51:22] Speaker A: Your lawyer?
[00:51:23] Speaker D: My lawyer, nigga. My entertainment lawyer.
[00:51:24] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:51:25] Speaker D: He said, she's coming to my office today. He said, listen, you can be leaving out when she's walking in.
I said, say less.
Shot down to his office.
I'm in his office. They come walking in, her and her manager, Michelle, right?
And he introduced me, hey, this is King Losing. So now this is the first time we're ever being introduced.
He's this guy, he's music.
And they just so happen to be interested. They were coming to see an entertainment lawyer about music.
[00:52:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I was putting together my.
My label.
So this is before I was. I ever put out a song.
So I met with him to put together Blue Rose, Dynasty. So that's how I'm doing my independent thing, too.
And he's like, okay. He does music, right?
[00:52:19] Speaker D: So I leave. I'm gone. We meet, gone, whatever.
[00:52:22] Speaker B: I leave.
[00:52:22] Speaker A: He.
[00:52:23] Speaker D: He just give me that. That intro.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: You still playing these mind games?
[00:52:26] Speaker D: No, he told me to be walking out while they're walking in because they're doing business. He was just like, you can be here and I'll introduce you. All you need is an introduction sometime. You know what I'm saying? So you're trying to introduce yourself, right? So he introduced me in business.
He gave a good name. Like, no, this is the guy you want to work with. So. Because they were trying to do music, he got me to work with her, and they hired me to work with her. And that's when I, like, taught her how to rap and all that stuff. And they hired me. And so, you know, she fell in love with me. She never left my side since, so. Let me stop.
See, no, she fell in love with our friendship. We was friends for a year first.
[00:53:05] Speaker C: Friends.
[00:53:05] Speaker D: We were best friends for a year first. But it was puppy love. So she told me. She said, oh, no, you like a little. You know, you like a little cute little junk, you know, dc. Yeah, you little cute little junk. I mean, you know. And I said, are you gonna play like this? I said, you gonna play like this and you're gonna fall in love because you playing.
You know what I'm saying?
[00:53:24] Speaker C: And, yeah, I went. I went. And looking at it like that at
[00:53:28] Speaker D: all, she was just. Thought she was gonna be just cool on me.
[00:53:31] Speaker A: So who. Who, like, who moved on it? Like, what? What?
[00:53:34] Speaker D: Like, who was like, yo, after that, she moved on me. Tell the truth.
[00:53:37] Speaker C: We became real tight.
[00:53:39] Speaker D: Who backed it up on who?
[00:53:40] Speaker C: We became real tight.
[00:53:42] Speaker D: It was a year. Hit. It was a year. It was a year. No, no, no, no. We used to sleep in the same bed and all that. Nothing. Yeah, she wouldn't give me nothing. And I was trying to manipulate her. Like, you might as well just.
[00:53:54] Speaker B: I said it through mind games.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: You're not supposed to admit to that.
[00:53:57] Speaker D: No, I got you. We been together 20 years. We don't have no secrets here.
We don't have no secrets.
[00:54:03] Speaker B: Well, it's been 20 years.
[00:54:04] Speaker D: That's what I'm saying. We don't got no secrets. I was trying to manipulate her back then. Like, you might as well just give me something because you gonna fall in love if you don't give me none.
I was telling the truth, okay? Even though I wanted. I was trying to advance the cause. I'm like, bro, if you do. If you. I said, we gonna get so connected, you gonna fall in love and then tell the truth. And you backed it up on me. Tell the truth. She backed it up on me.
[00:54:27] Speaker C: I did.
[00:54:27] Speaker D: She backed up like, what you.
And then after that, we, like, literally,
[00:54:32] Speaker B: like, the scoop back.
[00:54:33] Speaker D: She did the scoop back. And. But, But. But we've been together. We've been together since the day we met.
Like, since the day we started working.
We've been together pretty much.
We had a little break off after we went to Atlanta and worked on some stuff, but we've been together like, every day. So that turned into just. And then she came to live with me.
[00:54:57] Speaker B: How do men treat you when he's not around?
[00:55:02] Speaker C: How do they treat me?
Like.
[00:55:05] Speaker B: Like what, do they flirt? Are they still professional?
[00:55:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:55:08] Speaker D: Yeah, well, niggas flirt.
[00:55:12] Speaker C: Yeah, of course niggas gonna shoot their shot. I mean, you could go to the store and that happens, you know, is
[00:55:18] Speaker D: shooting they shot, bro.
[00:55:19] Speaker B: You guys are like a.
Like, I don't. When I see one of y', all, I don't think I think about the other one. Like, if I don't, like, when y' all doing freestyles and stuff like that instantly, like, think about it. So you guys are not a duo, but it's like, you're a couple that everybody recognizes as a couple.
[00:55:38] Speaker D: I would say that because we are, like. We are joined. We are very.
[00:55:42] Speaker B: But that's what would make it inappropriate to me. Obviously, you guys are in a relationship, but even if you're not in the room and somebody. Cause it's like, like I said, you don't think of one without the other person.
[00:55:50] Speaker D: Yeah, but, you know, that's just nature, though. That's just nature. That ain't really nothing to take personal. That's just nature, like. And that just shows how solid somebody is. Because if somebody's shooting their shot at her and she's acting accordingly, as she should, and carrying herself as a lady and being classy, it just made me look good. You know what I'm saying? It ain't nothing. Like, if I see it, I don't get upset about it because I'm like, well, shit, nigga, I ran out of Wendy's behind this girl. Nigga, I know what you feel, nigga. You know? I know what you see. You see what I see. You ain't no fool, nigga. But, you know, good luck. Yeah, you know, good luck.
[00:56:27] Speaker B: To sum it all up, be pressed, we just.
[00:56:31] Speaker D: I just. We just did a song. We just got wrote a song called Press. Called Press.
[00:56:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:35] Speaker D: It's like. I'm saying, like, I'm so pressed about. About her, you know?
[00:56:39] Speaker C: I mean, we just did that record.
[00:56:40] Speaker B: We talking about the Sierra Prayer. We need the Lola Prayer.
[00:56:43] Speaker D: What's the Sierra Prayer?
[00:56:45] Speaker C: How she manifested her situation now.
[00:56:48] Speaker D: Yeah, but that's the thing. Like, we got a 20 piece, bro. We been. We down, you know, D4L.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: What else are you guys. Sorry, I just know what else y' all working on.
[00:56:57] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. I got the Fear tape coming out. Double disc, you know, Shout out to Wynn Records, shout out to Claressa Shields you know what I'm saying? The Gwoat, we just had to fight in Detroit, you know what I'm saying? And Wind Records is releasing my next project.
So, you know, they also represent Clarissa, you know what I'm saying? And Pap. Shout out to Pap.
Also shout out to Franchon, the one who fought against her. She from Bmore, so she from my hometown, Baltimore. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Baltimore Fear.
[00:57:31] Speaker B: Me too.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: What about. Sorry, go ahead.
[00:57:34] Speaker C: So I'm. Right now I'm in a space where I'm just dropping records, but I am working on a project and it's called Mood Board.
[00:57:42] Speaker A: Mood Board.
[00:57:43] Speaker B: Cause you are the Mood Board.
[00:57:44] Speaker C: Mood Board.
[00:57:45] Speaker B: You're a trendsetter.
[00:57:46] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:57:47] Speaker A: I want to hear you rap, though. I know you came with something, so I want to get to that. We're going to get to that right after this. It's effective immediately. King Los and Lola Monroe is here.
