Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, Hip Hop Nation? It's your favorite homegirl, Gena Views.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: Oh, we are in for a treat, man. I've been waiting for this for at least a year. Yeah, it's time. The time is now. Miles Minick is in the building immediately.
[00:00:19] Speaker C: Effective. Unaffected. Immediately. You know what I'm saying?
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Miles. Welcome to the show, brother.
You. I mean, you need no introduction because I've been. I've been very vocal.
[00:00:29] Speaker C: Oh, man.
[00:00:30] Speaker A: Very, very, very vocal about Miles Minick as being one of the main. One of the main reasons that I re. Reignited. The reason why I like doing this.
[00:00:39] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:00:40] Speaker A: And so, you know, welcome to the show, bro.
[00:00:42] Speaker C: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's an honor and a privilege to be with y' all today. For real.
[00:00:46] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm not only a friend, I'm a brother. I'm a fan, bro. You know what I'm saying? And it's dope to be fans of Friends. I almost messed that up.
But just for you, I guess. Well, first of all, what's different from a year ago for you? Because I could go on and on, but what's different for you?
[00:01:12] Speaker C: Everything. Everything is different. I feel like last year we was knocking on the door, and this year, every door is open to us, you know what I'm saying? And not only is it open, but, like, we're, like, invited in and, like, embraced and, like, promoted, like, up elevators, like, through the buildings of these doors, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Just the embrace and the love I've gotten since I've moved out here, it's been unbelievable, you know, when it comes to the industry, the streets, the DJs, radio stations, everything.
And it's a God dream, for real.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Congratulations.
[00:01:43] Speaker C: Oh, thank you. Thank you.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Has anyone ever, like, with the success that you have, have you met any, like, music execs or even, like, producers, even engineers, or anybody in the industry that tried to convince you to make.
[00:01:57] Speaker C: Traditional rap music before I became successful? For sure. For sure. A DJ back in my hometown said I'm wasting my talent by using it for God dang. Yeah, yeah. Like, you could be so much further. You could be a star if you just do what everybody else doing.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: How do you receive something like that?
[00:02:20] Speaker C: I didn't receive it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was definitely offensive, but it put a chip on my shoulder, like, okay, yeah. Watch what God do. Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: In a good way.
[00:02:30] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:02:30] Speaker A: Right.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah.
[00:02:32] Speaker A: And I know, like, so I also want to go back because I'm just. And I want to. I want to get your perspective, because we've never talked about this.
[00:02:40] Speaker C: So.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: I believe Mosky shouted. My brother, DJ Mosky, he hits me, and he's telling me about Miles. I'm like, yeah, whatever. He. You know, I get sent music all the time, then I end up talking to Ace. Ace is like, bro, I'm telling you something. I'm telling you, it's different. Like, you gotta just check it out. I'm like, yeah, whatever. Cause I'm thinking flowetry in my mind.
[00:02:59] Speaker C: Right?
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Right. I'm just being right. So I'm thinking flowch. I don't. I don't have time, bro. Like, so then I remember I went and I listened to. I think it was Christ, like, the EP or something like that. And I had FaceTime ace to apologize.
And y' all were doing rehearsals for.
[00:03:18] Speaker C: The show for the Novo.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: For the Novo. Sold out.
And I was like, oh. He was like, miles is here, bro. You got. I'm so. I think that's when I. I don't know if I apologized to you our first time talking, but I was like, bro, it was something like that.
I was like, bro, I slept on you. My bad, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? I will not make this. Like, I will correct. I will right these wrongs, moving forward. Right?
[00:03:41] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: And so now that. That. Now I came to the show, and then I saw what. I was like, oh, this is the thing. This is the next thing. And at that point, I'm like, I'm all in on this.
I no longer. I don't have any doubts. I'm a believer. Right?
[00:03:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Is that accurate?
[00:03:59] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. They kept telling me, like, DJ Head, he's the guy out here, the man. I've been telling Head about you, Head about you. I'm like, okay, yeah, for sure, for sure. Like, I can't wait to meet him one day. You know what I'm saying? But I never Forget when that FaceTime came through before doors opened to the show. He was like, man, listen, I'm a believer. I'm a believer. I'm believer. I may have thought whatever before, but, man, listen, you got slaps.
You got slaps. And you was like, I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up. And the. That was one of the nights that changed everything, for sure.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: What you mean? Change? What you mean?
[00:04:32] Speaker C: I mean, on one hand, we sought out the Novo, bro.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Right?
[00:04:36] Speaker C: Like, you know what I'm saying? But the other hand, with you being there, we got your full backing off of that night. And with you being the Coast Guard, just going out of your way to just say my name in all these spaces, that's when the avalanche started to come. With just an outpour of support, I thought.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: I think that would have came anyway.
[00:05:00] Speaker C: It would have came, but you ignited it, though. So I don't know what other way it would have. Like the way it happened. It was supposed to happen that way, I feel. You know what I'm saying?
[00:05:10] Speaker A: So, yeah, when I saw the show, I was like, okay, this is the guy. This is the guy I'm willing to throw, bet everything on.
I never wanted to be involved with an artist. There's two artists that I've ever wanted to be involved with on the business side, right? There's Blass and there's Miles Minnick. Those are the only two artists I've ever wanted to actually do business with.
[00:05:27] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: So that was my introduction, and that was my thing. Now.
Then I made a proclamation. It's like, Miles Mendick is the next thing, and he's going to be one of the ones that's gonna change the industry. Miles Mendick is gonna sell out the Forum.
[00:05:44] Speaker C: Yeah. You put a timestamp on it, too. I ain't forgot.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: I put a time. I think it said two years.
[00:05:48] Speaker C: You said two years one year ago.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: So we got a year.
[00:05:51] Speaker C: We got a year to do the Forum. To do the Forum.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: You got it.
[00:05:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Come on. Well, it's like 12K. Right?
[00:05:58] Speaker A: Then I want to fast forward to Rolling Loud.
[00:06:01] Speaker C: Ah.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: You were the first Christian act to a Christian rap, a Christian rap artist to have your own set correct at rolling out. Then you did like, bro, first of all, that takes courage. And then I also want to know, where did you find the strength to do that? Because those people aren't necessarily there for that.
[00:06:22] Speaker C: Right, right. Like, two years ago, I did a song called Sober. And in this song, I said, I'm not going to tone it down, mess around, and do an altar call like Rolling Loud, you know what I'm saying? So I'm not just going to boldly declare something and not do it when the opportunity arises. You know what I'm saying? And I believe that God has put us in these certain spaces to be a light, to. To invite people to experience change in their own lives. And what a better place to do it than Rolling Loud. I prayed for thousands of people that day. Like, that was the Biggest W we probably ever took up to that point. You know what I'm saying? It had to happen. And then we posted it and then it went like stupid viral. Yeah, crazy viral.
[00:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:02] Speaker C: Like everybody was posting it. Even Scooby Doo posted it. Scooby Doo, Scooby Doo fruit snacks.
Scooby, Scooby, Scooby Doo fruit snacks. Posted the rolling loud altar call. I'm like, that's how you know, that's how you know it's Scooby Doo fruit snack.
[00:07:18] Speaker A: That's the bar.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Scooby Doo fruit. That's hard though.
[00:07:23] Speaker C: Yeah, that's tough. That's all I was tweaking.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: You have to like, so this is new for me. Like, Christian rap is totally new for me. So you have to break this down to me like a third grader. Outside of your relationship with God, what inspires you to create music for a genre that has such a negative reputation?
[00:07:46] Speaker C: I think for me, I'm just inspired to tell the world about my experiences, you know, And I have a lot of experiences with God. I have experiences with the streets. I have experiences with me being a 15 year old father. I have experiences with me working a 9 to 5 that I hated. Just praying and hoping and wishing that I could live my dream, you know what I'm saying? And so with all of that, we just make slots for the soul and it resonates with who it resonates with, you know what I'm saying?
[00:08:10] Speaker B: Was that always the, the goal, the goal for the content of your music or did you ever make.
[00:08:16] Speaker C: Oh, for sure, yeah. Back then, yeah. I grew up in the Bay Area, so, like. Right, yeah, the hype movement, then the mob movement, like E40DB, the general DLO, like, like all of that. I was doing that before I did this, for sure. I was 17 years old, performing in clubs, 21 and up clubs in Oakland, San Francisco.
I was working with all the big rappers up there, you know what I'm saying?
But I walked away from that to follow, to follow this new path, you know what I'm saying?
[00:08:43] Speaker B: Was there a, a specific moment that led you to walk away?
[00:08:46] Speaker C: For sure, for sure. So I'll never Forget. I was 16, 17, I was on my way to a party. It was like 30 of us walking down the street going to a house party. Out of nowhere, these cop cars pull up on us. It was like 15 cop cars. They said, hey, we got some noise complaints.
Y' all was fighting out here or something. Yeah, y' all was fighting. So everybody get on the curb. We're going to search all of you.
We wasn't fighting. We was walking to a party. We probably looked like we was gonna fight somebody, but we wasn't, you know what I'm saying?
And so they started searching us. And the first person they searched had an assault rifle in his pants.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: What?
[00:09:21] Speaker C: The first person. I'm like, first of all, how.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: Talk about probability, you know what I'm saying?
[00:09:27] Speaker C: I'm like, how? Like, yo. And so, of course, the police, everybody put your face in the cockroach. Put your face on the ground. You know what I'm saying? And then with that happening, all the cop cars with their lights flashing, 30 young men facing the street, the whole neighborhood came outside, and my daughter was across the street in a stroller looking at me with my face in the concrete.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: Word.
[00:09:47] Speaker C: And I said, God, if you get me out of this, I promise I'm a change.
And so that, you know, the only person they ended up arresting was dude with the gun, which is a.
I mean, a miracle. I'm good about, like, anything, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But they let all of us go except for dude. I said, okay, God, like, not only are you real, but you answer prayers and let me. Let me try this new path out. It was. It was. It was tough to try to find the rhythm of the path.
So for a few years, you know, bumping my head and I mean to this day above my head, but, like, you know what I'm saying, that was the beginning of it, though, for sure.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:10:26] Speaker B: Wow.
Outside one the. That's early. I don't. I mean, we. We have the unreleased version of the project, so I don't know the order.
[00:10:34] Speaker C: Of it, but that's number one.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: That's number one. Okay. In the one bar that stood out to me when you said you not big stepping unless you walking in your purpose. Come on, can you expound on that?
[00:10:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, come on, bro. Like, what really matters at the end of the day? Is it, like, what you have or who you impact, you know what I'm saying?
Is it what you acquire or who you inspire?
That's really what I'm talking about. A lot of folks want to talk about they big stepping because of what they got on their wrist or what they driving. No, I'm big stepping because I'm walking in my purpose and I'm stepping closer to God. You feel me?
[00:11:04] Speaker A: What's the significance of Via Dolorosa?
[00:11:06] Speaker C: Ah, Via Dolorosa, the name of the album.
If you. If you translate it, it's translated into the pathway or the sorrowful road. It is the road that Jesus walked on when he carried his cross. You know what I'm saying? And so this album isn't necessarily a sorrowful album. It's more. So what happens once you get through the Via Dolorosa? Right? You experience the promise of the. The fulfilled path. Because when Jesus got through that, when he hung on that cross, he fulfilled the promise he had for humanity. You feel me? And so really, this is a project of promise. And walking in that blessing of that.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: That's fire.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: You have a lot of quotables on this album.
[00:11:42] Speaker C: Let's go.
Let's go. I've been fighting for the quotables.
[00:11:46] Speaker B: Not my job. You said.
[00:11:48] Speaker C: I knew you was gonna say that word.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: You know, Gina gonna break it down.
[00:11:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: I don't condone, but that don't mean I don't condemn you.
[00:11:54] Speaker C: No, no, no.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: That don't mean I' ma condemn you.
[00:11:56] Speaker C: I don't condemn. That don't mean I condone you.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: Right, right, right, right, right. And then another one when I step in the room, which is crazy, because I had a mental note that I wasn't gonna cuss this whole interview.
[00:12:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I made Christians rap.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: No, but, like, do you notice that people are not themselves around you?
[00:12:19] Speaker C: I mean, that's why I made that bar and that song. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. We just came from Ad Stream, the community. You did Community just now, you know, look at me. Shoot.
And because they was doing that too, and I'm like, I got a song for this conversation and situation. Go ahead and play it. And I played it for them, and it. It broke it down for them. Like, my point of view, it's like, look, you don't gotta change who you are, because I'm for sure not gonna change me.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: Right?
[00:12:49] Speaker C: Like, I'm gonna be who I am. You feel me? So you might as well be who you are and then take it from there. You know what I'm saying?
But then that. That unleashed them. They said, okay, cool. Yeah.
I was like, maybe I should say this.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: It's like when you tell a kid they can cuss, they just go crazy.
[00:13:07] Speaker C: I was like, dang, I should have saved that one for the outro. But, yeah.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: Did you now going in to make this album, was it different than the other album? Because I feel like this one is way more. I don't even know how to describe it.
The only word that I have is just growth.
But from this approach to what you've been doing over the year, over the. Over the course of the last couple years, I guess you could say. What was the approach to this one and to make it different than the other ones?
[00:13:38] Speaker C: Yeah, this one I wanted to check more boxes.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: Which law. Which are what?
[00:13:41] Speaker C: Which. Which are.
I wanted more substance in it. I also wanted a larger palette. Like, I didn't just want just a regular slaps you could go dumb to. I wanted melodies you could ride to. I wanted songs you could vibe to. You know what I'm saying? Because the different songs can reach different kind of people. And so I wanted to reach more of an audience with this joint. And also I wanted to be intentional about giving my perspective and my story.
Now my job is my perspective. My story is in the outro and new birth, the altar, you know what I'm saying? Talk about how God rescued me. And so this one was very, very intentional with the approach, for sure.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: It feels way more intentional than like also on that intro, you know, you got a heavy. You got. That's a heavy hitter on there.
[00:14:30] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: And I thought that was super dope. Like, to be honest with you. Your songwriting ability is very inspiring to me.
Cause you're able to write a song and people. Every time I play your music for people, and it's been like, from Charlamagne to whoever, they don't know it's Christian rap.
They have no idea until like. And then I gotta tell them later. And it's kinda like when Gino catch bars and I don't catch it. Yeah, she's like, you didn't hear when he said that?
[00:14:57] Speaker C: This.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: And then I'm like, oh, I didn't even put that together. That was from the third bar. And so when I tell people it's Christian rap, it's like a new discovery to them. Is do. Is it for you? Is it the same way? Like, are you intentionally going in when you write the music and the melodies and stuff? Like, I don't want this to sound like what it is.
[00:15:16] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Really, really good question.
Yeah, yeah, bro. Like, I want this to be played everywhere.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:15:25] Speaker C: Right. And if it comes off preachy or too overt, it limits the reach it could have. Right. I want this to be played in schools, hospitals, elevators, mainstream radio and gospel radio. Because like, when the Christians hear it, they know it's Christian. And that's cool. That's cool. But those who aren't Christian, they hear it. They don't automatically get that, but it's when they sit by themselves, listen to it for the third and fourth time they're like, oh, snap, he really saying something. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, that's the goal for sure.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: What's the intent when you're. When you get artists? Like, I keeps the sneak. E40G E Z. I thought I heard Kamiyah.
[00:15:58] Speaker C: You did?
[00:15:59] Speaker B: I did. On Walk by Faith.
[00:16:00] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: Okay. I thought I was tripping. I'm like, that sound like Kamiyah.
[00:16:03] Speaker C: Kamiyah.
[00:16:03] Speaker B: What's the intent in grabbing artists that do do the traditional rap rather than getting other gospel or Christian artists on the project?
[00:16:11] Speaker C: Well, I've gotten a lot of Christian rappers too. I probably went up and down the list getting dozens of them. But for this particular album and this new path that we're on, I'm intentional about reaching an audience that we haven't tapped into yet.
[00:16:25] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:16:25] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? And so if I wanna, if I wanna reach a certain demographic, why not link up with certain people that have the ear of that demographic? But also, I grew up listening to everybody on this album.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:37] Speaker C: Like, this is like a no brainer for me. Like to do a slap with. Keep the Sneak.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: Talking about that song is crazy. The vibe of it, I'm like, I'm wanting to hit the okay.
[00:16:50] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? So it's no brainer. So on one hand, yeah, it's intentional, but also we having fun with this joint.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:56] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:16:58] Speaker A: That's what's up, bro.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Do you.
I know you don't use profanity in your music, but in just casual conversation, do you? No, no, not at all. What's the last cuss word?
[00:17:07] Speaker C: You said the last cuss word.
You know, LA traffic would do something to you.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: It really.
[00:17:17] Speaker C: I was telling, I was telling Manny today. I'm like, living in LA will mess around, make you lose your salvation, bro.
Good God, bro. Man, man, how y' all drive out here, bro? It's crazy, bro. You got to be aggressive. You got to be an aggressive driver out here.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: Don't make me lose my salvation in this piece.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: I'm trying to disrupt my salvation.
That was heavy right there.
I'm saying the 405. Whoopi, you the 405.
[00:17:46] Speaker C: Today.
Today I'm like, manny, bro, pray for me.
So you know, I don't know which word it was. I know it was a word though.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: He said it today. Oh, you said it today.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: You said it in your head. If you said it in your head, it don't count.
[00:18:03] Speaker C: Okay. I Didn't cuss today.
I ain't cuss today. I for sure said it in my head, though.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: Ye.
[00:18:10] Speaker C: And I do this thing where I cut off the cuss word. I be like, mother, you know what I'm saying?
[00:18:18] Speaker A: What about, like, when you stub your toe on the edge of the dresser or something?
[00:18:21] Speaker C: Okay, yeah, yeah, that does happen.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: But that don't warrant a regular S bomb. That elevates to.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: That's the S bomb.
[00:18:35] Speaker A: That take you from S to F real quick. You know what I'm saying?
[00:18:39] Speaker C: You not lying.
Just the other day, too, she in the bed on her phone. I hit my toe on something. And you know when you initially hit it, you got to have that pause like.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: Yep. Cause you waiting for the pain to kick in.
[00:18:50] Speaker C: And then I grabbed a water bottle, just threw it on the floor. And this never happened to me before. The water bottle busted open. It started.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: So now it's a double F. Yeah.
[00:19:00] Speaker C: I'm like, I was he, but I can tell you it was a SRF for sure. But Lord, forgive me, Lord forgive me.
I don't cuss nobody out, though.
It's like, if pain inflicts, it's like.
[00:19:16] Speaker B: Malice told us if he get mad, he might have. So what do you say? Some interesting conversation.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, man.
[00:19:24] Speaker A: When we had Malice up here, he did say that people curse. What did he say, Genie?
[00:19:28] Speaker B: He said, people, you use profanity as filler words because it's talent lacking. But in reference to, like, in music, rappers using cuss words because they don't. They don't have. Their vocabulary is not extensive enough to find out.
[00:19:42] Speaker C: Challenged to do something different.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: Right.
[00:19:45] Speaker C: You know, everybody that gets on a song with me, they don't cuss, and they. They're up for the challenge. They were like, okay, let's do it, let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. Nobody ever been like, no, I got a curse. It's like a lot of them is excited to see if they. They could go and pull it off. Yeah.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Have you ever been asked to be on a record that you had to be like, nah, like, I can't touch this for sure.
It was just too much going on in the record. Like, that wasn't aligning with the, like, I. I messing with your salvation.
[00:20:14] Speaker C: Or reputation or. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. But, you know, a lot of people was, like, willing to change stuff around too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never like, any song that I've been asked to get on, and I Wasn't comfortable with a certain part, they've always been willing to change it.
And so that's dope. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: On on Lifetime, you said I could never go back to my old ways, but tonight I might turn up.
What's your, like, what's your version of lit?
[00:20:44] Speaker A: Turn up.
Time to get Christian lit.
[00:20:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm gonna turn up tonight. Yeah, but not, not the old way of turning up. But I'm still gonna turn up. Yeah. To me. I mean, if I'm honest with you, I, I, I'm, I'm more lit than, than most people that I come across. Like, I never forget I was with Head at the YG joint. Frisco.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Yes, he was.
[00:21:07] Speaker C: During, in the club. We, I was. But I was in the DJ booth though. I wasn't like in a club.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: You want with G and pop.
[00:21:16] Speaker C: I was in the DJ booth. You know, everybody drunk and off, whatever. I'm, I'm like the church boy, right? Lit. I'm like, you feel me like going crazy. Going crazy. Like I'm a natural.
[00:21:27] Speaker B: Like cuz your roots.
[00:21:28] Speaker C: Yeah, my roots is area culture, hype culture, real California boy. And so I, I have heck of fun. I turn up and, and go, go on to the Long beach, to the pike, going to the movies, you know what I'm saying?
Whatever kind of activities we do, we always find a way to have fun somehow.
But just sober, you know what I'm saying? Not, not getting into no foolery and it's a better way to live anyway.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:55] Speaker C: Like I ain't trying to like pop a bad pill or catch an STD or you feel me drunk drive, get arrested or get into a car accident. Like I'm still having fun. It's just like safe fun, you know what I'm saying?
[00:22:09] Speaker A: Is there a moment that that has occurred that kind of shook your faith over since you, since you've been like indulged and marinated in it.
[00:22:17] Speaker C: Oh, shook my face. Nobody ever asked me that before.
Yeah, yeah, almost. Almost.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: What was that, what was that moment like?
[00:22:28] Speaker C: Yeah, so when Tina and I first got married, we were blessed to get a three bedroom house for $1,000 a month. Right?
[00:22:37] Speaker A: That's.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: Where was that at?
[00:22:39] Speaker C: It was in a bay.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: That was not in the bay. That was in, that was like, that was in Nebraska.
[00:22:45] Speaker C: But, but check it out though. The woman who owned the house, she said, yo, I'm looking for a young Christian couple in ministry to rent this house out to for this price. Do you know anyone?
It's all like, hey, hey. You know what I'm saying? So we ended up taking that. We're there for two years and then out of nowhere, she informed us she was selling the house.
And so after that, it's like, what are we going to do? Where are we going to go?
And we ended up moving back with my dad. And it was rough. It was super rough. And it was, it was tough on Tina, like, like tears nightly, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Pops, you know, for helping us out. But it just wasn't a situation for, for us having a kid and all of that. It wasn't the environment that we felt comfortable in.
And so it's like, God, like, why would you, like, give us that and snatch it away from us? You know what I'm saying? Why would you give us peace and security and take that away? To send me backwards. I feel like I was going backwards in life at that time. Then I'll never forget Tina, with tears in her eyes, said, said a certain, certain prayer.
And mind you, we was like broke, broke too, with terrible credit, so we couldn't apply nowhere.
[00:23:58] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:23:58] Speaker C: And to get, to get no type of housing, she prayed a prayer that God will open the door for us to get our own spot. And then out of nowhere, an opportunity arise for us to be apartment managers, which, if you're an apartment manager, you work for the units and they don't take your credit. They pay you to live there, to live there, you know what I'm saying? So God ultimately came through, but that was a rough, that was a rough time for sure.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: The flip on that. He said, has your faith ever been shooken? But have.
In those moments, in those discouraging moments, how do you keep your faith alive?
[00:24:38] Speaker C: The first thing is like standing on the word. Standing on the word of God where the Bible says he'll never leave you nor forsake you. You know what I'm saying? And in Jeremiah 29:11, it says, For I know the plans I have for you. Plans to prosper you, not to harm you, to give you a hope in a future, right? So that. But for me, I also stand on what I feel like God told me specifically. You know, I feel like everything I'm living now, he showed me like 15 years ago. And so if, if I'm. If I'm ever discouraged, I just remind myself what I heard him say through a dream or through somebody approaching me, like, hey, God told me to tell you this. You know what I'm saying? And so I held on to those Things. Because anything that I seen that didn't look like what he told me, I knew it was only temporary.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: What. What about so recently, like, I've been. I've been having these crazy experiences where I'm like, dang, if I would have been right here two later, like, that could have been me in that accident. Or, you know, stuff like that if I wasn't. If I was on time to a. A situation. And that probably would have been me right there, you know. What moments have you experienced where you, like, just felt his presence? Like, you just know, like he is real.
[00:25:47] Speaker C: Oh, I've had several. Several moments. I'll never forget this one. It was. We were leaving church on, I think it was a Tuesday night. And we're at a stoplight in Antioch, California, Sycamore. And before I know it, I see two people to my right with ski masks on and hoodies on with guns in their hand and they aim at my car. I got a car full of youth from the church and Tina in the passenger seat fisting at my vehicle.
Hit the power steering.
Bullet holes all in the vehicle. Everybody screaming, crying.
I couldn't even turn the wheel because the power steering was hit. So I just run the light, get up out of there, and I got to a safe point and I'm checking around to see if everybody's good. Autumn, bullets hit my car at point blank range. And none of us got hit.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:26:39] Speaker C: None of us got hit.
I said, okay, God.
Okay, God, you real. And what the Bible say, no weapon formed against you shall be able to prosper.
So that was that in real life for me.
And so God kept doing stuff like that, like, and it would just fire me up, like, okay, I'm riding for the Lord.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm taking all faith, you know, for sure. No, I feel that.
[00:27:05] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: Okay, so go ahead.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: I'm sorry, this is just not just. Because we can just like get. Stop being so serious right now. You watched the show?
[00:27:14] Speaker C: What show?
[00:27:15] Speaker B: This show.
[00:27:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: You think Dinosaurs was in the Bible?
[00:27:21] Speaker A: We had no argument about this on the radio.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: You do, right?
[00:27:24] Speaker C: I think it was in a Bible.
I mean. I mean, I mean, because it says he made all.
He made sea animals and land animals, and so they could technically be classified as animals, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I say they reptiles. Yeah, I would say that's why I.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: Say, yes, he think I'm crazy.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: Say, no, I think she crazy.
I mean, for a multitude of reasons.
You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not it's not specific to the dinosaurs, you know what I'm saying?
It's different stuff going on.
[00:27:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: So I guess when you.
I know you. I wanted to address this too. Like, you have taken backlash from quote unquote, the Christian community for working with mainstream artists and regular hip hop artists and stuff like that. And I know you stand 10 tones. Like you said, you taking off fades. But how do you navigate that not being like being almost. Almost in the same way that we talking about being ostracized for trying to help.
[00:28:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, oh.
How do I deal with it?
I deal with about having a close knit circle, having a pastor in my life who I. I run stuff. I'm like, yo, are they right?
Am I really out here tripping? Am I. Do you feel like I'm chasing selfish desires while I'm doing this? And so as long as my wife, my circle, my pastor is like, nah, keep going, keep going. I know I'm on the right track. I'm learning to drown out the noise because it's a lot of noise right now. Especially when I announced the features on the album.
[00:29:00] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:29:01] Speaker C: Jeezy. Kamaya. Kamaya was in the comments yesterday, having to fight some people off. They was like, it was rough. Y' all could go look. Y' all can go look. It's all fades.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: I just wanted to know that because for like Gina is, you know, she don't read comments no more like she don't.
I'm trying to get more like, it don't faze me. I'm. It's whatever. But I just noticed that you probably get it from both sides of the fence, whereas you get it from those people and then the second, the second and nonsense or whatever.
But yeah, I think that for the most part, you incredible artists, bro. And I think you got a mission. And I'm glad to be a part of it.
And thank you for letting me be a part of it.
[00:29:45] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? I'm a part of the. I'm a part of the Christ like movement and I'm a believer. Gina's rocking with it. I was about to use a F bomb.
[00:29:54] Speaker C: Hey, hey, hey.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: I bleep with that.
[00:30:00] Speaker C: I bleep with it.
[00:30:02] Speaker A: I believe, bro.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: Yeah, this for my bleaches.
[00:30:12] Speaker A: Bro. You stupid.
But yeah, bro, you know. Oh, real quick. Glow Glow.
[00:30:20] Speaker C: The. The label Glow. The label Glow. The Fest Glow member.
Glow Be one Kenobi.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: No, no, I mean Glow Fest, obviously. That was crazy. Second year in a row that I went thousands of People. Sol, it was amazing. But I want to make sure we give everybody. They just do. So Glow, the label, shout out to Tommy Zuko. Like, go ahead, give him.
[00:30:42] Speaker C: Yeah, shout out Tommy Zuko, man. Tommy Zuko is a rising star in our space. I mean, he got something called Two Up Tuesdays, where he rap over, like, nostalgic 2000s beats every single Tuesday.
And boy is viral every time. Like, crushing that joint. And then we got CJ Emulous from Vallejo crushing it. Real holy and hyphy with it, you know what I'm saying? And we looking to expand the team as well also.
[00:31:05] Speaker A: Last thing is for me is, when I went up to Glow Fest this most recent year, I was up there.
[00:31:11] Speaker C: And.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: You were about to shoot the Bout Time video outside, right?
[00:31:17] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:31:17] Speaker A: This is the fun fact that people. I wish people would know, right?
And the reason I'm bringing it up is because I remember there was a certain somebody. I'm not gonna say their name, but they were like, people treat me like this. Cause they don't know what's behind me. So I go. And people think, Miles is. He is. He's a great guy, but people be thinking, he's sweet.
[00:31:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: And so when I'm up there for Glow Fest, I'm backstage, and your wife Tina, she's like, hey, I think Miles is in the back. They finna shoot a video. So I walk out there, I'm thinking, I'm expecting it's just regular Miles. I walk out, and it's like.
It's real Bay Area culture back there.
You know, if you pick it up, what I'm putting down, it's like, real ones back there. You know what I'm saying?
And they like, yeah, what's up, bruh? Like, you know, oh, yeah, Tina, that's my sister. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, this your brother?
[00:32:06] Speaker C: Like your blood brother.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: And it was a culture shock.
[00:32:10] Speaker C: He had the green.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: Yeah, he was a full Bay Area nigga.
So I'm like, oh, it's okay. It's some s behind this.
It's all like, oh, my God. I just wanted to point that out because people be thinking it's sweet because Miles is all smiles, like, hey, bro, it's, you know, not only we got. God, he got. It's some other ones that's here on Earth that, you know, some movers and shakers that's a part of the movement.
[00:32:38] Speaker C: So. Yeah, it's part of the movement.
It's where we come from.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying.
[00:32:43] Speaker C: And the video is all over social media, and you're in it.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: I'm in the video?
[00:32:47] Speaker C: Yeah, you're in the video. You was like, outside of the. The scraper.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: He got me to dance, you know?
[00:32:52] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, dancing.
[00:32:54] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: It's a great cone, but Via de la Rosa. Like, phenomenal body of work, bro.
[00:33:01] Speaker C: Thank you again.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: Like, I'm so proud of you. I'm happy for you. I'm happy to be a part of it. And, you know, I got a glow I want to also give you. Thank you for my chain.
[00:33:12] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:33:12] Speaker A: And you know, I don't wear jewelry.
[00:33:13] Speaker C: You could have wore it today, though.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: I could.
[00:33:15] Speaker B: Nah, I can't wait to see him in the chain.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I got it in a safe at the house. But they. They. He. He.
He completely, like, blindsided me with the chaining day. He was like, yeah, come on up here. Get your chain.
[00:33:28] Speaker C: Each.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: I was like, dang, this is crazy. I was like, okay, this is emotional, but I need to. I need to scuttle that.
[00:33:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:35] Speaker A: And I'm a real one. I gotta, like, anyway, but thank you.
[00:33:38] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. For sure, man. Just thank you just for being you. You know what I'm saying? And just showing that love. You've been showing this for over a year.
Like, you have no idea how many people I meet. Just random. It's. Oh, yeah, put me on to you. Word. I'm like, for real. Like, I don't know what you be doing, who you be talking to, bro.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: Telling I campaign.
If I believe in something, I'm believing. Same thing with Gina, you know what I'm saying? Like, I believe in Gina. It's just like. It's like, hey, bro, this is. This is the thing is, I just could. I understand most of the time I could tell, but when it's blaring at me, I'm like, oh, no, this is the thing. This is what we're doing.
[00:34:18] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: Wow, wow.
[00:34:20] Speaker C: But yeah, incredible. Before.
Before y' all end, though. What's your favorite? I want to know your favorites from the album. Go ahead.
[00:34:28] Speaker A: Mine, I. Outside the intro is fire. I like About Time is probably the one. Like, if you go through my playlist, I play it the most.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: Mm.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: Cause it's just.
I get that face.
[00:34:42] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: And then obviously, like, well, the Method is on there. Shout out to Lecrae, too.
[00:34:49] Speaker C: Shout out Lecrae.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: But Hidden Heels is a sleeper with G. Eazy.
And for me, I would say sick widget just. Cause I like you tapping in with Fabi.
[00:34:58] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Those are, like, my choices.
[00:35:01] Speaker B: I don't know all the names, but the first one and then the one with keeps the sneak.
[00:35:06] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. You like to slide?
[00:35:08] Speaker B: Cause it caught me off guard when I heard her. I'm like, y' all just heard me. I'm like, oh, that's.
That's him.
[00:35:15] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: But I like.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: I like that. Cause he's the. If I'm listening to it in order, he's the first feature, right?
Or is it another?
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:23] Speaker B: So that's what. Then I hear E40. I'm like, oh, my God. Then I hear G. Eazy. Then, like, I said, I thought it was Kamiyah, but you telling me it is Kamiyah, but definitely the one with keeps music. That's hard because it was, like. It reminded me of that 2005, like, that feel. Yes, it was that. It was that vibe. I'm like, how did he get him to do this?
And it don't. It don't. It don't sound like he's aged a bit vocally.
[00:35:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: Like, it still sounds fresh.
[00:35:48] Speaker C: He sound the same. The same way he sounded back then. It's even. Even more polished now.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:53] Speaker C: Oh, man. That. That's what's up. That's what's up.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: I thought it was dope to have him say your name on the record. I was like, like, wow, that's crazy.
[00:35:59] Speaker C: He said my name. He said Jesus name. Yeah. He said, God, slide on the devil. I'm like, he check all boxes like, you know what I'm saying? But n. Thank y', all, for real, for having me. Like I said, this is. This is my breakfast Club. You know what I'm saying?
[00:36:15] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:36:16] Speaker C: This is. This is good.
[00:36:17] Speaker A: I'm. I'm. Thank you for being here. Shout out to the team, too. Shout out to George. Shout out to Tina. Shout out to Ace and. And Manny, everybody that make this thing go. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate you. Miles Minick is here. Go get that Via Dolorosa right now.
