Warren G On 213, Death Row, Suge Knight, Dame Dash, Kanye West & MORE❗️| Effective Immediately

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head. [00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, world? It's your favorite homegirl, Gina. Views. [00:00:08] Speaker A: Man, this one is a long time coming for me. This is someone who I've looked up to for many, many moons. And someone who's part of the reason I do what I do and I rep what I rep. The legend himself, G Dub, Warren G. [00:00:21] Speaker C: What's up, Big baby? [00:00:22] Speaker A: Has blessed our presence. [00:00:24] Speaker C: That's indeed. What's up, man. [00:00:26] Speaker A: Hey, bro. First and foremost, I know people give you your flowers and stuff like that, but you being who you are to what we call this thing on the west coast is like, for me. Well, you know, because we've had conversations. But for me, it's personal, because we'll get into it and talk about the whole backstory and everything. But I personally am one of them people who, when people say west coast, they automatically say, oh, it's DJ Head. Right. But I got that from y'all. [00:00:55] Speaker C: Yes, you did. [00:00:55] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Watching y'all, paying attention to y'all, looking at y'all in the magazines and, like, really, like, taking pride in being from the West. [00:01:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:01:03] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? From the samples from the Tempo, just even. Just the way that music moves and car culture, that's all our shit. And so just from me to you, thank you. You know what I'm saying? [00:01:14] Speaker C: Hey, much love, man. [00:01:15] Speaker A: I just wanted to say that, you know, get that out the way. [00:01:17] Speaker C: Much love. [00:01:18] Speaker A: But, you know, we've been waiting to have a conversation for a minute. I remember we tried to do it, you know, a while back when they was doing the Hip Hop Celebration for the. I think it was hip hop 50th. [00:01:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:27] Speaker A: And. But a lot has happened since then. But, you know, before we get into that, like, from your perspective, like the brand of Warren G, we all know you a legend. We all know your accomplishments. Well, not everybody knows your accomplishments. And you not braggadocious at all. Probably not enough. I really would like you to pop your shit a little bit more. Just keeping it real. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Like, believe me, I be wanting to snap on these. [00:01:49] Speaker A: You do? [00:01:50] Speaker C: But, yeah, a lot of something. Are you low key? Like a. [00:01:53] Speaker A: You low key? Got a temper under there? Cause you. I've never seen you lose your shit. [00:01:59] Speaker C: You ain't hear what Dame Dash said. [00:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:01] Speaker C: In his interview. Yeah. He wasn't lying. Shit, I went bananas. [00:02:05] Speaker A: You did? [00:02:06] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. [00:02:06] Speaker A: I didn't know it was that bad. [00:02:08] Speaker C: Like, I thought he was in my business. Get up out my business. Man, you don't even know me. [00:02:15] Speaker A: So. Okay, so people do. Do you feel like over the years people have played. Not played with you, but, like, people, like, take you. Take you lightly. Cause you are mellow, you cool, calm, collected. But like. [00:02:28] Speaker C: Nah, they don't take me lightly. You know, those that know. No, you know what I mean? I just ain't. I'm just not into, like, getting into no fights and all that. I ain't in all of that. I just want to have a good time and vibe out and just chill and, you know, everything cool. I don't want to be around no crazy shit. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:51] Speaker C: You know, but I ain't, you know, I ain't like. I mean, I'm cool. Sir Cool. That's me. I'm a cool dude. I will get upset if I have to. I mean, but other than that, you know, I try to diffuse, you know, diffuse shit before it even get there. [00:03:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:12] Speaker C: Cause I don't even wanna go there. Cause, you know, I mean, they don't call me the regulator for nothing. Shit. I'm gonna take off. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Had you had conversation with him, like, nah. Okay. All right. [00:03:28] Speaker C: No, I'm cool. I'm just like, stay over. [00:03:31] Speaker A: Stay out the way. [00:03:32] Speaker C: Stay out the way. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Is this a story that we can touch on? Cause I don't know. I don't know what y'all talking about. [00:03:38] Speaker C: I forgot pretty much, like, forgot a lot of that shit. I even forgot what I went off on this dude over. It was a situation with Steve Stout, and it was a couple guys that they was all Chris Lighty homeboys. And it was just some things that was going on that just wasn't cool. So I addressed it and, you know, I got a little. A little over two. I mean, you know, I went a little overboard with it. I ain't got nothing against that dude. I mean, you know, he's a great businessman. And that was back. You know, that was. I was young. I was like, maybe like 22, 21. Snapped. [00:04:20] Speaker B: Oh, everybody crashed out in their 20s. [00:04:26] Speaker C: I crashed out. I ain't gonna lie. [00:04:32] Speaker A: Did you? Did you. Okay. Do you now? I don't assume you do that often. Like you said, you really chill. Cool. Like, I remember Nate was like that as well. But when he went, he went, yeah, I seen that side of bloody love. It was, you know, he singing, he woo. Chilling with the girls. But if he gonna go, he gonna go. [00:04:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Okay. And so you both have that in common. I guess what I'm asking is, when you do it, are you aware in the moment or you reflect afterwards. Like. [00:05:07] Speaker C: I mean, it's. Yeah, I'm in the moment. [00:05:13] Speaker A: You're in the moment. [00:05:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:14] Speaker A: So it's like, we deal with whatever come with this later. [00:05:16] Speaker C: Yeah, it's going down. [00:05:18] Speaker A: Okay. [00:05:18] Speaker C: You know, I'm just not going. I'm not. I ain't got. I ain't got time to be messing around. And then, you know, that's why I don't get into nothing, because I don't want nobody to threaten me or anything like that. Because if you threaten me, that's, you know, basically saying you trying to take me away from my family and everybody that's around me that love me. So I take that serious. Like, oh, it's a threat. Huh? Okay. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Can you recall your, like, maybe, like, your biggest crash out from back in the day? [00:05:51] Speaker C: I had a gang of them. I'm telling y'all. Y'all. [00:05:55] Speaker A: Y'all got never. I would have never thought that. [00:06:00] Speaker C: I didn't. I mean, I didn't have, like, a lot of crash house, but I would. I had fights, you know, I had a fight, actually. They used to call it the World Club. It was called the World of Under the Beverly Center. Just mashing through with, you know, the whole Death Row crew, Dre, all of us, we mashing through there. And the dude that says something like, fucking wa. So they was like, damn, this nigga tripping. So they kept moving. [00:06:31] Speaker A: Oh, they just kept it pushing? [00:06:32] Speaker C: Yeah, they kept it pushing. I stepped back and I went over and I asked him, I said, what you say? He said, nigga, fuck Death Row. And Woo Bop hit him, knocked him, knocked him. But he. His homeboy hit me. I didn't know he had a homie with him. Yeah, he hit me. He knocked me out, but he hit me good from the side. It was a side punch, too. I was like, wow. And, you know, just things like that, it was. I mean, it's been a lot of situations. I don't want to talk about all of them. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I got you. [00:07:17] Speaker C: I've helped a lot of guys in situations. You know, a certain person that I know was getting, you know, manhandled by another dude. And me and one of my guys went over there. I mean, we whooped him, choked him out, all kind of shit, but. [00:07:36] Speaker B: So the Regulator. [00:07:39] Speaker C: I ain't no violent mother, dude. [00:07:41] Speaker A: The Regulators Is the Regulators a true story? [00:07:45] Speaker B: Is the Regulators a true story? Y'all did a fine job of painting a picture on that song. [00:07:49] Speaker C: Well, it was real, but it wasn't exactly like that. Okay, but it was a situation where what we used to hustle, we was making a lot of bread where we was at. So we was on the jack list, you know, to come up, try to rob the spot list. [00:08:10] Speaker B: Oh, shit. [00:08:10] Speaker C: But we already had caught wind. But some people didn't. Wasn't paying attention and let some dudes creep up on the spot. Drew down on everybody, laid everybody down. I was there, couldn't do nothing. I ain't have no pistol. I didn't have nothing. No bat, nothing stuck. Just. I couldn't like, run out there and trip or do anything. I couldn't do nothing. And it was kind of like. Kind of like the song. But, you know, they had to do what they had to do. Then my guys, so we gotta go holla at these guys, you know, for doing what they did. Cause we found out what was going on. So we had to go and chop it up with him and ask them, like, what's the problem? And, you know, it was all good. I can't really jog like that on here. That ain't me. Let me cut it out. [00:09:10] Speaker A: It's all good. I wanna go back, though, because your lineage is rich, you know what I'm saying? As far as, like, your contributions to culture, your contributions to defining a. Creating a sound and defining the sound. But I wanna go back to. Not the beginning. Because we well aware of your roots. If you don't know, do your Googles. But I wanna go back to just Warren G as a producer. Cause I know that's kinda your roots as far as being a producer. But I guess I got conflicting stories of how everything was happening at one time. Right. So did you have a placement? I mean, did you produce some of the stuff for nwa like, as far as. So you never touched that? [00:09:56] Speaker C: Nuh. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Okay. [00:09:57] Speaker C: The only thing I did with nwa, I think it was Niggas For Life. I did the skit, the jail skit, where it was like, the guy, man, get your hands up off me, Mr. Officer. It was like I was in a. Well, they. It was like they took me to the county jail and, you know, roughing me up. The police and shit like that. And it was a dope skit. I mean, it was one of the best skits on that album. People loved it. Yeah, I was young too. I think I was like 17, right? Yeah. [00:10:32] Speaker A: Okay, go ahead. Sorry. [00:10:34] Speaker B: Now, I was gonna ask, who's your Mount Rushmore for G Funk. [00:10:39] Speaker C: Shit. Just from. From. From Mount Westmore. Just from. [00:10:46] Speaker B: Just of, like, y'all era of the G Funk. Like, who's your Mount Rushmore, man. [00:10:56] Speaker C: I definitely gotta put Snoop in there. How many people can I have? Four. Four. That's it. [00:11:05] Speaker A: Four total. Four total. [00:11:08] Speaker C: Snoop Nate, that's going to end up being 213, but snoop me, Snoop Nate and let me see. Damn, that's kind of hard. And that's a trip too, because Ice Cube and I mean, too short. And E40 told me, they was like, nigga, we wanted you to be a part of the Westmore album. Mount Westmore. Yeah. And I was like, well, shit, I would have got down, you know, Motherfuckers didn't get at me on it. So it is what it is. But hey, it's all good. Them still my guys. That's kind of hard. Let me see. [00:11:55] Speaker A: You got through. [00:11:55] Speaker C: Do I have to put myself in it? I mean. Cause I'm just saying, as a producer. [00:11:59] Speaker B: You should be the first head. [00:12:00] Speaker A: You should be the first head. [00:12:01] Speaker C: Yeah, you know, I had it in there. I was just saying that I was doing that. Cause as far as, like a producer, me looking at this artist without myself making as an artist, just on the producer side. That's why I was like, okay, yeah, but yeah, definitely myself. Let me see you. [00:12:21] Speaker A: Got you. Snoop Nate. We need one more. [00:12:25] Speaker C: Shit. Damn, man. Who can I. Wow. [00:12:37] Speaker A: We could do three. [00:12:39] Speaker C: Let me see. I'm gonna figure it out. [00:12:40] Speaker B: 2, 1, 3. [00:12:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:44] Speaker C: That'S automatic right there. And our chemistry together is incredible. We actually. Huh. [00:12:50] Speaker B: What year was 213 form? [00:12:53] Speaker C: That was about. I say maybe like 89. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Damn. [00:13:01] Speaker C: Somewhere around there. [00:13:03] Speaker B: So is Google correct with the first. The year the first album dropped? [00:13:07] Speaker C: Mine's no. [00:13:08] Speaker B: The 213 album. [00:13:09] Speaker C: The 213 album dropped in 2004. Yeah, but we was 213 the whole. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Time prior to that. Okay, okay. Why did it take so long for the album to come out? [00:13:21] Speaker C: Excuse me? 213 was the area code, remember? That's why we called ourselves 213. And we was trying to be like Richie Rich and 415. How they was claiming 415. We was like, we 213. And that was all of Los Angeles. It wasn't just 213 here. [00:13:41] Speaker A: Long Beach. [00:13:42] Speaker C: It was Long Beach, Compton, Watts, Louisiana. Carson, like Gardena, all the surrounding city, the Mass Circle. And so that's what we took on. We took on 213, which was like Southern California. And we just was rocking with that the whole time while we was going to do like, Roger Clayton. I don't know if you know who Roger Clayton is. From Uncle Jam's army, he had a club in Long beach called the Toe Jam, and he used to let us come rock at the toe jam doing 213. Come in as 213, but it was still people. Snoop, Nate, Warren. But we was 213 to him, and he was opening up doors all around to little, small clubs for us to move around and perform. So that's what it was. We had 213 and the big posse. The big posse was our homegirls. They was our security. [00:14:38] Speaker A: Wait, were they big? [00:14:39] Speaker C: What? They was vicious. Big and vicious. [00:14:44] Speaker A: He had girl security guards. [00:14:46] Speaker C: Yeah, the big posse was. [00:14:48] Speaker B: They like shooters? [00:14:50] Speaker C: I promise you, they gave. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Did they have, like, guns on them and stuff? [00:14:56] Speaker C: I mean, they was cool. They wasn't. You know, that was. It was. If they needed to, you know, it was around. [00:15:04] Speaker B: That's funny, because on snowfall, there was a. It's a season where Franklin has female security guards. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:11] Speaker B: And I thought that that was, like, crazy. So that was a thing back in the day. [00:15:15] Speaker C: No, I mean, that's just how we was on that. We was like, these are just our security right here. They are homegirls. Because they was. They was. They was with the business. [00:15:23] Speaker B: How's the hiring process? [00:15:25] Speaker C: We was always, like, around each other, so it was. That's how we knew, like, y'all gonna come, you know? And then we. Me and Snoop and Nate, we actually lived in and out of my homeboy rump house. And that's where it started with my homegirl Kim, Big Red and Tanya and all of them, all the big posse, the whole crew. We always just be with every. Each other. We used to be in the same house every day, just with Christine and Rump, them house and Cam. And that's where it started at, you know, play fighting and shit. All, you know, all day, just the homegirls and just. And that's where it formed at, you know, they used to be deep, rushing us. So we. When we started doing our thing, we like, fuck it. The big posse, they like, shit. We mash and what's up? And we used to mash while we talking about 213. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Can you tell us how groupie love came about? [00:16:23] Speaker C: That was. That was Snoop idea pretty much. It was. It was. [00:16:28] Speaker A: I could see that. [00:16:29] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. It was groupie love. [00:16:33] Speaker B: Any inspirational stories came about that made groupie love? I think. [00:16:38] Speaker C: I mean, back in the day, you know, I mean, when I first started. When I first went on my first tour, I didn't really understand a lot of. A lot of the. I Didn't even know. I didn't even know what royalty checks was. Even though I was in the music, in the game, I didn't even know about none of that stuff. So I was just. I didn't know about the females, you know, at the shows and none of that. Until I did my first show. I was in Miami, and I did my thing. Rocked the show. So I was in the back of the. In the back of the stadium with the tour buses and everything. There was a gate, and it was just women all on the gate, just everywhere, groupies. This pretty, young, beautiful ladies. And it was one. And she was just like, can I take you home? And I was like, what? She was like, can I take you home? And she was like, I do all kind of things. I'll do all kind of stuff to you. Like, I was like, oh, shit. It blew my mind. [00:17:48] Speaker A: I was like, damn, Were you new to this? You like? [00:17:50] Speaker C: Yeah. So I was like, God damn. Is this how this is? And, you know, just being young, like I said, I was. [00:18:00] Speaker A: That was in Miami. [00:18:01] Speaker C: That was in Miami. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Did you go to the crib or you, like, you went to the house? [00:18:06] Speaker C: No, I didn't go. I didn't go. I punked out. Yeah. You know, I was like, nah, I'm cool. I had a friend with me, you know, back then, so that was crazy. But after that, we had kind of, like, you know, kind of separated. And then it turned. I turned into a monster. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:29] Speaker C: You know, everywhere I went, I was like, damn. Beautiful women everywhere. Hey, how you doing? You know, not. I wasn't, like, going crazy, but I would meet, you know, some cool ladies, and cool ladies not. And I only want to say it was like, group. A groupie thing. It was just like, shit, like, hey, how you doing? You know, like, I'm fine. You know, like, come here, let's chop it up. And, you know. And. [00:19:00] Speaker B: Who came up with the term joystick? [00:19:04] Speaker C: That was nadog. Now, this is crazy. The whole song happened from us playing the video game. [00:19:11] Speaker B: Really? [00:19:12] Speaker C: Swear to God. We had a. The beat was in there playing, and we. Playing video games. [00:19:18] Speaker A: Do you remember what game? [00:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah, what game? [00:19:20] Speaker C: I don't know if we was playing. It had to be Madden. What system back then? That was. It was Xbox. It was the one. Let me see. [00:19:29] Speaker A: I think y'all was playing Madden. He came up with a joystick. [00:19:32] Speaker C: Nah, it was. I forgot what it was. I gotta ask my guys. Kenny, mcu. It was a bunch of us in there, and we was playing the game, and he said, hold Up. Wait a minute. He told the engineer, Greg. He said, turn the mic on. And then he played the beat. Came in with the count as soon as it. She said she wants to ride my joystick. She wants to ride. She wants to ride it. I was like, nigga, that shit is hard as a motherfucker. I swear to God. It was like. It was crazy. Cause he just stopped the game and he. Cause we was playing. I don't know how that happened. He just mentioned the joystick. Cause we was playing, you know, with the joysticks, you know, on the game. And that's how that whole thing happened right there. That was. It was a trip. Yeah. Nate was a monster with it. [00:20:37] Speaker A: So he came up with that while I was playing the game. And then y'all went and produced the record? [00:20:42] Speaker C: Yeah, right after the. I actually didn't produce that. [00:20:45] Speaker A: No, I'm saying, like, made the song, like. [00:20:47] Speaker C: Yeah, right after that. After he did the hook, we immediately left up off the game and went in there and did our thing. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Oh, like, literally. [00:20:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:55] Speaker A: Damn. [00:20:56] Speaker C: It took me a little bit to get my verse off, but I got it off. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Right. [00:21:01] Speaker B: That word ended up being, like, a slang. I believe it's in the urban dictionary. [00:21:06] Speaker C: Is that right? I believe it is. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Even I feel like so Fly was ahead of its time. Because I want to say in 2016, maybe 2017, they did the so Gone challenge, and everybody was rapping over it. But y'all had already did that. Yeah, years ago. [00:21:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:23] Speaker B: How did that song come about? [00:21:26] Speaker C: Actually, Kanye west produced that. Yeah, Kanye west back then. Yeah, back then. Kanye West. [00:21:32] Speaker B: What? [00:21:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:34] Speaker A: So wait, wait, wait. Okay. So how did. How did y'all. Did you already know ye or, like. [00:21:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I knew ye, like, before he was, like, popular. [00:21:45] Speaker A: How did y'all. Did y'all link. How did y'all end up linking, like, initially? [00:21:48] Speaker C: Well, Snoop had reached out. We was doing the 213 album, and Snoop reached out to him and was like, we doing the 213 album. Send some tracks straight up. Yeah. And the sample that he used was the same record that Monica and Missy had did. They was pissed off. [00:22:06] Speaker A: They was mad pissed. [00:22:07] Speaker C: I was like, damn, if I would have known that, I would have been. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Like, were there issues clearing it? [00:22:13] Speaker C: It was an issue with the clearances on that record. That kind of like, like, ruined the whole 213 get down after that. Because the company. I forgot the company that we did it through tvt, they went bankrupt right in the middle of. How y'all gonna go bankrupt in the Middle. And you still ain't gave me the rest of my money. Shit, give me my money, then go bankrupt. So they went bankrupt, and that kind of messed everything up, you know? So we. They stopped trying to get the clearances done and all of that stuff. [00:22:52] Speaker B: So I always thought, growing. I'm sorry. I just always thought, growing up, that it was actually a remix. So I didn't even realize that that's a standalone song, but. Cause Monica's came out 2003. Yalls came out 2004. [00:23:06] Speaker C: Yeah, but it was around. Shit. Damn. It was around the same time. [00:23:10] Speaker B: That's why it felt like more of a remix or something on it. Cause I remember. I remember being a kid and the radio would play both of them back to back, and it almost sounded like you guys were all on the same song. [00:23:20] Speaker A: I thought it was the same song for years. I was like, yo, this is hard. Like, they got everybody on the. So you said they were mad, right? Did you ever have a conversation with them about it? [00:23:30] Speaker C: No, I never talked to neither one of them. [00:23:32] Speaker A: So how did you know that they was mad? [00:23:34] Speaker C: That's what we was getting from the rapper. Oh, okay. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Gotcha. [00:23:36] Speaker C: You know, that was like a big thing. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Got you. [00:23:39] Speaker C: You know, I think ours was kind of, like, overpowering, you know? So they was getting. They was upset about it, but I would have told them, shit. I'm sorry. I didn't know it was going, you know, whatever it did or whatever happened. Cause I like both of them. They very talented. Super. Yeah. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Goaded your. Now I want to. I know people talk to you about Regulate all the time. Like, all the time. And you also touched on it was inspired by a true story and stuff like that. But one of the ones, to me, I mean, was obviously this dj, and to me, that's like, that's my go to as a Warren G record. Like, I think actually we sampled it for that Good. Me and Glasses Malone. [00:24:30] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Yes, indeed. Thank you for that. You didn't have to do that. And I'm gonna put you on blast right now. You know what I'm saying? So backstory for the kids and people that don't know. I have a song that myself and my homie Jim produced. Jim Nays, we produced it. It's called that Good Glasses Malone featuring Todd Alasson and C Ballin. And we made the record. When we produced the record, he was like, yeah, let's use this. You know, G Dub. That's family. Like, we good. I'm like, oh, yeah? Are you sure? Like, like, like, it's literally. It literally sounds like your record. Right after we did the record, we made, like, we made it. We modernized it and kind of like did some to it or whatever you with it. And you didn't charge us. Yeah, thank you for that. [00:25:18] Speaker C: That's all good, man. [00:25:19] Speaker A: That, like, people don't hear those types of stories. I've never told that story before, like, ever on, like, on the radio or nothing like that. But you didn't charge us for that. And, like, that was one of my. And that was the first song I ever produced in my life. [00:25:31] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [00:25:32] Speaker A: And so I come into the music industry. I've been a DJ forever. I've been doing radio forever. That was me starting my production journey. [00:25:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:41] Speaker A: And you doing that was like, made me realize, like, damn, there are still people out that want to see other people do things with their music. And positive. Because you always hear the horror stories, like sample clearances and people saying, no. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. But that was my first song. It became a hit record. Radio, like, all that kind of shit. And that was my introduction to the production world. And I just wanted to, you know, give you a flower shot. [00:26:04] Speaker C: Much love, man. I mean, it's just like what I did for the Doobie Brothers, you know, the record. It's like, I ain't gonna stop nobody from using some. Something that I created because it just carries on. It helps to carry on and go, keep going. I did that with you with the disc DJ J. Cole cleared. Wanted to clear a song called Hollywood. I did that for him. Some people that was on the record was trying to charge. And I said, look, what are you. Y'all crazy. What are you gonna try to charge this dude for? I told him, stop that shit. Don't charge him. Nothing went out. And I do it just. I may need him one day. I may need you one day I may need somebody. You know, that's how you gain relationships. You know, I may need a favor from you or something, man. Jump on this verse. I would love to have J. Cole on the verse, though. I ain't gonna lie about that. I need to get him on something, right? Yes, indeed. [00:27:02] Speaker A: Now, I guess the question where I was going with that is, like, where you get that from? Like, where do you get that, like, that generosity from? Not the mean relationship. Cause that's mutually beneficial, but where do you get that generosity from? Because I don't think the era that came up with was that generous. [00:27:21] Speaker C: I'm. I'm different. Like, I'm different. I, like you said, I want to see people win. Whatever I could do to help, you know, because I went through a lot of, you know, a lot of shit in the music industry. And it taught me to be a different person towards everybody as far as like clearing something I did or if somebody asking me advice, I tell them, you know, what I think they should do. And a lot of young guys hit me, you know, and be like, unc. I'm like, unk, I ain't that goddamn old. But they hit me and asked me for advice about different things. A lot of the hardcore, you know, young rappers, they be like, what can I do? So I tell them, like, look, you gotta stop killing everybody on every song. You know, make whatever you doing a movie. Make it a movie. As far as your album, what you writing about, and tell your story, even though it will be some of the rowdy stuff in there. But then give them the fun side too. You know, that's what we always do, tried to do, was just give people a dose of this, a dose of that and a dose of that. And you know, most of the stories we would tell would have. Some of them would have. Most of them would have a good ending and it show you this is what happened. And this was the ending results of what we did. And it was fun. Ain't no fun. That's a fun record. [00:29:00] Speaker B: Did y'all realize that was going to be such like a. One of those. Cause that's a song that people use to warm the crowd up. [00:29:06] Speaker C: Yeah, we knew that was a bang. [00:29:08] Speaker B: Y'all knew it. [00:29:09] Speaker C: Oh my God. We knew as soon as we did it. [00:29:11] Speaker A: Wait, take your phone off the table, it's vibrating. [00:29:14] Speaker B: That's like a generational song. Like it's gonna forever bang wherever it's played at any moment. Like DJs literally use that to warm the crowd up. [00:29:22] Speaker C: Believe it or not, I walked in on it. [00:29:25] Speaker B: Really? [00:29:25] Speaker A: On them making it on them? [00:29:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I walked in on it. They was like, warren, you got a verse? I was like, shit, yes I do. Went in there and just had a sip and just hit him with that. Woo. But I did that because I had had. Hey, now, you know, I had endosmoke. And it was popping, it was really popping hard around that time. So I was like, forget it. Let me start it off like that. Cause they'd be like, oh, that's the same dude from Endosmoke. So I was like, so you was. [00:29:54] Speaker A: Thinking like that at the time? [00:29:55] Speaker C: Uh huh. Word. So I hit him with that Woo. Hey, now you know. Cause they'll be like, oh, that's. That's okay. So that's how I started. [00:30:04] Speaker A: So when you was approaching your thought, I mean, when you were approaching these verses, you already thinking about marketing and branding. [00:30:10] Speaker C: Gotta think like that. [00:30:11] Speaker A: Damn. [00:30:12] Speaker B: How did you know that with. Cause even. Cause this is, like, early on, so you couldn't have that much experience here. Right. [00:30:18] Speaker C: That's just how I just. It just was in me. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Where were you financially when you got the call about Poetic justice soundtrack? [00:30:28] Speaker C: I didn't have a lot of money. I was pretty much, like. I was pretty much on the broke side. I didn't really have no income. Coming in from nowhere. And that was pretty much. That was a good. That was like a blessing that just happened because I was actually up at the studio visiting Snoop and Dre because I hadn't seen them. So I was up there visiting them, and Paul Stewart and John Singleton came in, and I was like, what's up with them? What they here for? And he was like, they got a movie soundtrack that they working on. So I walked up to both of them immediately, like, I got a song. Can you listen? No, I got a record. So Paul was like, cool, let's do it. So I had a burgundy Regal. I actually got that Regal. That burgundy Regal. Working with Tupac and MC Breed. That's how I got the money to get the Regal. [00:31:31] Speaker A: I had. [00:31:31] Speaker C: I was in my burgundy Regal. I had beat in it, but I didn't have a lot of money. So we got in the car, I started playing Indosmoke. Paul Stewart hit the button. He was like, stop. And he was like, can I take the tape with me? And I was like, it's all good. Just give it back to me. And so I let him take it. And it was probably. I think it was like a Thursday Friday or something like that. But, like, that Monday, they called me and was like, we want this to be the first single for the Poetic justice soundtrack. And I was like, are you serious? And shit. I was charred. I was so happy at this point. [00:32:12] Speaker B: You already producing for Pac. [00:32:14] Speaker C: Well, I did something with Pac, with MC Breed, but me and him was like, we didn't, like, know each other. I just did it, you know? Cause DLC and Breed was tight, so that's what. And Rodney G is the one who called me, like, warren, you gotta beat Fantasy Breed. And I was like, hell, yeah. So I went, you know, went up there, did the beat, went up there, took it to him, and Tupac had heard it, and he jumped on it, but we still hadn't. Like. We wasn't, like, tight, and, like, he was like, what's up? What's up? That was it. And. But I worked with him again later on, and I still. I didn't. I didn't. Like, I didn't believe it was him calling me. I was like, this nigga ain't gonna be calling me. So I hung. I was like, this. People playing with me. So he called again and was like, this is Tupac. I want you to. He said, didn't you. Did you do Endosmoke on the Port of Justice? I said, yeah. He said, I want you to do a beat for me for the Poet of Justice soundtrack, too. Because back then, they would take the single and put it out, and they still be working on the albums. So that's how that came about. And I did the How Long Will they Mourn Me? And then I did Definition of a Thug for Tupac right there in the studio. [00:33:36] Speaker B: Did that relationship land above the Rim, too? The above the Rim soundtrack? [00:33:41] Speaker C: Nuh Nah, that was all me just making a visit up to. It happened the same way. That's what's so crazy. I went up to the studio. I was up there with Dre, because I used to always. Wherever he was, I wanted to be. So I went up to the studio with Dre. I had a little bit of cheese because I had. Did my deal with Def Jam from the Endosmoke record. But they. I thought they was coming for Mr. Graham. And so the call was. I was on the conference call. They was like, you know, we interested in signing the guy who rapping on the Endosmoke, and I'm the producer of it. So they had me on the conference call, so I was just like, shit, it's all good. I'll tap in with him and get him in contact with you guys, you know? And they was like, the guy that's doing the, like, kind of singing, that's the guy that we want to. We want him. And I was like, shit, that's me. Shit. What you mean? I said, let's go. So that's how. Oh, wait, the thing fell out the cup holder. Sorry about that, y'all. So that's how. That's how all of this whole. All of that stuff happened. I forgot where I was at when that. [00:35:06] Speaker B: Above the Rim. [00:35:07] Speaker C: Okay, above the rim. Now. It was the same. Pretty much like, the same process. I was at the studio because I used to always be around Dre, so I was up at the up at record one, hanging out, just chilling like we usually do. And I asked Mike Lynn could he listen to the record I wanted him to hear. I said, me and Nate just did a banger. I want you to listen. Come on, let's go. I want you to hear this. So we went to the car, and when we got to the car, pushed it. I put it in, started playing it. It was CDs then. So had the CD going. And he was like. He was like, this is dope. And I was like, shit. He was like. He said, can I. Can I take the disc? Same thing. I said, go ahead. And he took the diss and let Jimmy Iovine hear it. And Jimmy Iovine was like, we want this to be the first single off the Bud of RIM soundtrack. And it was powerhouses on there, too. [00:36:13] Speaker A: Damn. [00:36:14] Speaker C: And that's what set it off. [00:36:16] Speaker A: Because you gotta think that was what Dre was around. You had rage. Like, yeah, it was some shit. [00:36:22] Speaker C: It was a pox. [00:36:23] Speaker A: Like, it was some shit. [00:36:24] Speaker C: Yeah, it was some powerhouses. [00:36:26] Speaker A: So when you do. When you get that. When you get that look, do you. Do you accept that or you still do. You go through, like, some kind of. Like, you sure, like. Because, I mean, at this point, you said that you thought they wanted grim. [00:36:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:39] Speaker A: So are you, like, having imposter syndrome or you kind of like, they won't meet like, y'all. You sure you want me? Or like, you haven't. Are you having second guesses or doubting is what I'm asking? [00:36:49] Speaker C: I didn't second guess that one. That was a banger, right? That motherfucker was banging. [00:36:53] Speaker A: So that kind of kicked off most of the. Most everything. [00:36:56] Speaker C: It kicked it off. [00:36:58] Speaker A: Did you know that Endosmoke. Was that when y'all made it? Did you know it was that? [00:37:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:04] Speaker A: Okay, so that's why you told him. You walked up with comedy like, I got a record for you. [00:37:07] Speaker C: Yeah, it was because of the sample. [00:37:11] Speaker A: Got you. [00:37:12] Speaker C: It was Blowfly. Blowfly was a. A record that I used to hear my mother and father playing back in the day. So it was. It stuck with me. And I knew that if I flip this, people gonna be like, what is that? Flipped it. Boom, boom, boom. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Do you remember what you made? Like, what you made it on? [00:37:35] Speaker C: I did that on my NPC 60. [00:37:37] Speaker A: So you made it on the MPC. [00:37:41] Speaker C: Technic turntable, MPC 60, my Newmark mixer, and dis. I did it all, and then I had a live bass played. What I did is I took the I EQ'd the sample without no bass and had my guy play the same. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. [00:38:06] Speaker A: How did you know how to. That's why I'm asking. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Yeah. How do you learn how to do all this? [00:38:09] Speaker A: How did you know to do that? You know what I'm saying? The homies sit in the room in their laptop, and they just be, like, dragging and dropping. Like, how would you. Like, you know what? I'm finna take the bass out and have a homie play the bass. [00:38:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:22] Speaker A: Like, why would you know? [00:38:23] Speaker C: Well, I learned that from Dre. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. [00:38:26] Speaker C: Just being around him and us working on the chronic. And just Even from NWA Days, just being around him and learning. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Damn. So you, like a sponge, you get in, you just soak it up, and you fly it. Okay, So I don't know what she was gonna say, but you brought up Def Jam, Def Jam Vendetta. You was an asshole. I had real problems. [00:38:53] Speaker C: The regulator. [00:38:54] Speaker A: I played Def Jam Vendetta. [00:38:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:56] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? And playing that video game like you and Fat Joe, I had issues with, like. I had real issues with, like, I really. Once I started getting older, I lowkey, didn't play Fat Joe music like that. [00:39:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Cause I was holding on to that shit. [00:39:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:11] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Like, you from the west, it was, like, different. You had to fuck with you. You know what I'm saying? But, like, when you did the game, like, did you have input? Like, on how. On your character? Did you, like, what kind of creative input did you have on that? [00:39:25] Speaker C: I didn't have a lot. I just told him I wanted to kick ass. Yeah. Don't make him no punk. Let him kick some ass. [00:39:33] Speaker A: Yeah, you did. Yeah, I was hot ain't up front. [00:39:38] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. That's crazy, because I was chopping it up with this cat I be training with, and he was saying the same shit, bro. [00:39:48] Speaker A: It's true. I'm not blowing smoke up your ass. [00:39:51] Speaker C: Just happened, like, last week, you and. [00:39:53] Speaker A: Fat Joe, I had problems with Method Man. Watched him. Like, I was like, not. No disrespect. I was running through them, like characters. But, like, you and Fat Joe, I had real issues with. And Fat Joe was big on the game. Like, they made him, like, you know, it was just, like. It was an issue. But I just want to know how much input y'all had on that. Cause I think I asked Fat Joe when I had him on the show before, but he was, like. He said kind of similar. The same thing y'all didn't have a lot of input on that. Yeah, but y'all did the voiceovers, though. [00:40:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Okay. Cause that was, like, one of the first hip hop games where you got to hear, like, our people that we loved in culture on the video game. [00:40:30] Speaker C: We need to do it again. Damn. I might have said too much. They gonna do it when they see this? Nah, but that needs to be created again. That would be. It was a classic game. Why so classic game? [00:40:44] Speaker A: So the reason why I talked, I end up talking to DJ Poole. Cause, you know. You know, shout out to pool. That's another goat. One of my goats. [00:40:50] Speaker C: One of my OGs, too. [00:40:52] Speaker A: He oversees, like, a lot of the stuff for Grand Theft Auto, for Rockstar, and he, you know, he does the music supervision, supervision, all that kind of shit. But would you be interested in doing stuff like that as well? [00:41:03] Speaker C: Because, my goodness, I would love to. I just don't, you know, really reach out to the. To see who to talk to to get it going. You know what I mean? But that's another side of the music that I want to do is just score. Score video games, score movies. The whole. That's just like. That's what I really, like, want to do. And still. I still produce for artists as well and occasionally put records out myself. But that's what I ultimately want to do. Cause I could chill, build my own, like, incredible studio and just explore. [00:41:46] Speaker A: Did you see any movies that you would like to go back in and rescore? Like, what's a movie that you would go in and, like, rescore? [00:41:55] Speaker C: Like the Marvels. [00:41:56] Speaker A: The Marvels. [00:41:57] Speaker C: I put some cold music up in. [00:41:59] Speaker A: There that's random as. But I. With it. [00:42:02] Speaker C: Yeah. No, I'm serious. [00:42:03] Speaker A: The Marvels. Carol Danvers and like, Ms. Marvel and the three girls, right? [00:42:10] Speaker C: Yeah. I put so much music up under them. [00:42:16] Speaker A: That's so random. [00:42:17] Speaker C: Cause it's like the. You know, the feeling. I love the creative feeling, you know, when I'm producing and I've created a lot of records that I say, damn, this would be dope for this person, that person. I got records like that just in the archive. Like Lil Wayne, for instance. I had a record. Well, I got a record called all along with Lil Wayne. It's gonna be on the quarter six. [00:42:49] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:51] Speaker C: They was like, we need this warrant. Let us go and get that. I was like, all right, that's cool. It's me and him on there. That motherfucker so vicious. When they hear that, they gonna be. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Like, did you just randomly drop the fact that you got. You In a Lil Wayne right now. [00:43:07] Speaker B: How did it even happen? How did it come out? [00:43:08] Speaker A: You mean Lil Wayne got one? [00:43:09] Speaker C: Crazy. I hit him like. I hit him in the DM, like. [00:43:13] Speaker A: Wayne, I got a you DM, Wayne. [00:43:15] Speaker C: I DM'd him. I said, I got an open verse, man, can you get down? So it was. It took him. He hit me. It took a while. And he had hit me and was like, whatever you want, Warren. You know, just send it. Send the track to me. So I was like, all right, boom. I shot it to him. I'll play it for you guys off the air once just to let you guys hear. [00:43:39] Speaker A: But Lil Wayne is heard. [00:43:42] Speaker C: Yeah, wait till you hear this one. This one is. This is. It's a banger. [00:43:48] Speaker B: I never would have thought that one. [00:43:50] Speaker C: It was my record, Dming people. Because he did the verse for me. It was my record. And then when he heard it, like. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Let me get that. [00:43:56] Speaker C: Him and Fabian, they heard it. It was like, can we have it for the Carter sex? I said, shit, hell yeah, take it. [00:44:02] Speaker B: So it's crazy. [00:44:04] Speaker C: It's crazy. [00:44:04] Speaker A: You know what? I want to pause for a minute and just say, all you lazy ass young producers, even the older ones, this man just. This man is a whole legend. And he out here dming Lil Wayne to get the. To get a. [00:44:20] Speaker B: He also warned G, though. [00:44:22] Speaker C: No, but it don't. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Lil Wayne ain't responding to anything. [00:44:25] Speaker A: I'm not telling people to respond, but it's people that feel like they too good to even put in that kind of effort. That's where I'm getting at. [00:44:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Nah, I reached out. [00:44:33] Speaker A: Have you dm, like, do you do that often? You DM people like, hey, I got a record. [00:44:38] Speaker C: Not all the time. No, no, no. Not a whole lot. [00:44:42] Speaker A: But this one was just speaking to you. [00:44:44] Speaker C: Yeah. I was like, this will be one of them ones that people gonna. [00:44:50] Speaker A: Is there anybody else that you reached out to like that where, you know, it ended up working out or didn't work out? [00:44:55] Speaker C: I reached out to J. Cole, people. I don't even think he knew or know that I was trying to reach out to him. Cause I think he wanted to the dopest artist in the gang, like, period. And then, you know, he had. I seen, like, back in the day where he said that my album and Tupac's album was. Is what inspired him to rap. And just knowing that just, you know, and hearing him and hearing how dope he is made me say, well, shit, I would love to produce a record for him. You know, I Would love for him to do a verse, you know? So I reached out. I forgot the dude name. It was like a. Like a African last, like, name. Like, it was. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Was Ibrahim. [00:45:39] Speaker C: What is that? [00:45:39] Speaker A: Ibrahim? [00:45:41] Speaker C: That's him? [00:45:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's his guy. [00:45:42] Speaker C: I reached out. I reached out to him and he kept saying, all right, he was going to do this, do that, but never got back at me. But I ain't tripping about it. I charged it to the gang. [00:45:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:55] Speaker C: But he is one artist that I would really love to get some production up under. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Yeah, now we gotta figure that out. Cause that'd be hard. Like, you already got Wayne. You just. [00:46:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:05] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? [00:46:06] Speaker C: I mean, a lot of these guys, they. I mean, I could reach out to a lot of guys. They'll do it. Like, a lot of them. I've known them before, they was popping, you know? So a lot of them will, like, get right back at me, like, warren, what's up? What you need? [00:46:24] Speaker A: I'm in the car one day with my manager, Silas, right? You know Silas. We chilling, we listening to the radio, and Jeezy got this song come on the radio with Neo singing. She said it's beautiful. The chords is singing. It don't sound nothing. Like, I'm like, we. Like. I'm like, damn, this shit kind of like it's moving, too. Cause it's. I'm a dj, you know what I'm saying? You a dj, but you get it. But it's like, it's moving. It's 94 bpm. I know that off the top of my head, but it's 94 bpm. And it got a nice little sample with singing. And damn, I'm like, damn, this shit cold. Like, you know, Warren G did that. [00:46:58] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:46:59] Speaker A: Did what? Fuck is you talking about, nigga? Warren Gene produced no record for Jeezy. [00:47:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:04] Speaker A: How the fuck did you. Like. [00:47:06] Speaker B: I remember seeing that on MTV Jams. Remember how they had, like, the credits and stuff? I remember seeing Produced by Warren G. Like, how. [00:47:13] Speaker A: Like, okay, did you already have a preexisting relationship with Jeezy or how. First of all, it's deep. Okay, yeah. Explain this to me. [00:47:20] Speaker C: I got a homeboy named Hitman that's got. He got life. He got life here in Georgia. So he knows some of. He was locked up with some of Jeezy's people. So Jeezy's people that he was locked up with got out and reached out to one of our other homeboys, who also typed with Hitman as well. And reached out to my other homeboy fave for me and Jeezy to link up when he in la. So Jeezy was in LA and he was doing a video shoot. And they said he was. They said for me to come up to the video shoot, and he wanted to hear some tracks. So I was like, all right. So I came up there, but I wasn't like. I just thought it was gonna be some old Hollywood bullshit. So I went up there, jumped in the car with him, had a CD with like, 12 beats on it and played the beats. And he picked like, three of them. Two or three. And I didn't hear nothing else from him. That was it, you know? So I was like, damn. And it was. I say it was probably, like, maybe a couple days before Christmas Eve, I got a call from Kevin Lyles. Damn. And he was like, Warren. He said. He said, I got Jeezy right here. And I was like, what's happening? He was like, we just wanted to holla at you and let you know that the record you did for Jeezy, that's gonna be the first single. That motherfucker banging. They was hot. He said, look, they playing it in the club. Listen. I was like. I was like. She said, they was playing that motherfucker in the club. I was like, oh, my God. [00:49:15] Speaker A: So you hadn't heard it at all? [00:49:16] Speaker C: I hadn't heard. I didn't even know that they even recorded. Yeah, yeah. And that. I was blown away, man. I was blown away just to, you know. Cause I'm a fan of Jeezy, too. I love to get him up under my production. He's dope. He actually did another record that he let out on a mixtape. I didn't even know he put it out. Him and yg. It was him and yg. That motherfucker was so hard. It was one of my favorite beats. And I forgot the name, what they named it, but it was him and yg. That's when they was hanging pretty tough. Yeah. But, yeah, that shit. That shit. I was charged up. [00:50:00] Speaker A: What was the time gap from the time you gave him the beat to the time Kevin Lyles called you? [00:50:04] Speaker C: It was some months, you know, it was in the summertime when he was doing the video shoot. And then, like I said, around, like, maybe a couple days, a day or two before Christmas, Christmas Eve, I guess they was at a Christmas party or something. But Kevin Lyles called, and, you know, that's my guy. So I asked, like, what's up? That's when they told me And I was like, what? [00:50:29] Speaker A: So leave you alone ended up becoming a huge hit. [00:50:31] Speaker C: Yeah. His first single. [00:50:32] Speaker A: His. The first record, like. And I, up until that point, biggest. [00:50:37] Speaker C: Records to this day. [00:50:38] Speaker A: To this day. [00:50:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:38] Speaker A: Up until that point, we hadn't heard Jeezy like that. [00:50:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:42] Speaker A: And so you. I always thought that you produced that for him. I didn't know it was. You played him a bunch of beats and he picked that. [00:50:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:49] Speaker A: So that even goes credit to him, too, for even being there, being willing to do something like that. [00:50:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Because that's different than what, you know, can't ban the Snowman. [00:50:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:57] Speaker A: Type shit that we used to Jeezy on. That's dope. I never knew that story, but he. [00:51:01] Speaker C: Should have tapped in with me on that last one, too. I'd have gave him a banger. It ain't gonna stop. That's what I love to do. I like to do singles. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. [00:51:10] Speaker C: I like to do that. Yes, indeed. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Did you and Ron Isley share a blunt in the making of Smoking Me Out? [00:51:19] Speaker C: Nah, we didn't. We didn't. We didn't share no damn, did we? No, we didn't share no blunt. Nah, he don't. I don't think he smoked. [00:51:28] Speaker A: She bet not. [00:51:30] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot of smoking, though. [00:51:32] Speaker A: It was a lot of smoking. [00:51:34] Speaker C: But we actually did that like a movie. Like, it was like a connection, like a. [00:51:44] Speaker B: You had the girls wrestling deal. [00:51:47] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. So we went and met with the guys. That was their little entertainment for us for coming. We sitting down at the coffee table to talk a deal. Yeah. And that was fun. And just to be next to Ron Isley, I was. [00:52:03] Speaker B: How did y'all even get connected? [00:52:07] Speaker C: I was a straight groupie. I ain't gonna lie. I was like, shit, I'm with Ron Isley. Shit. This is. This man between the sheets. This is teenage, you know, humping music, making love. He said humping. [00:52:23] Speaker B: How did it even happen? How did y'all connect? [00:52:27] Speaker C: How did we connect? I think, if I'm not mistaken, through Angela Wimbush. Okay. Angela Wimbush. Her and Ron, I think they was an item back then. And I did. What did I do? I think I did a remix for Belle Bev Devoe, I think it was. Or New Edition, one of them. I did a remix, and I think she had heard it, and somehow they reached out to my uncle Ron G and connected the dots. And then I went and produced some records for them, and he did Smoking me Out for me. [00:53:06] Speaker B: So I'm like, Too young to even have ever experienced y'all music, but it was, like, played so much in my household. [00:53:15] Speaker C: How old are you? [00:53:16] Speaker B: I ain't gonna tell them how old I am, but. [00:53:18] Speaker C: Well, you. You. [00:53:20] Speaker B: But it was played so much in my household that I thought it was current. Like, I didn't know Tupac passed away until I was probably in, like. Probably like maybe like 2001 or something. [00:53:29] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [00:53:29] Speaker B: Because that's how much the west coast, you know, like, music was, like, a thing in my household. So when we found out that she was coming, I had to call my daddy. I called my uncles, I called my mama, and I'm like, can y'all just tell me something that y'all remember that happened back in the day that nobody else has asked on an interview ever? One of my uncles told me to ask you what happened the night that you first. First. First met Suge Knight in Hollywood? He said something about a parking lot. [00:53:58] Speaker C: In the parking lot that I first met him. No, I didn't. [00:54:04] Speaker B: He said you had to help him out with something. [00:54:06] Speaker C: Oh, I. Yeah. Damn. [00:54:10] Speaker A: You see his whole face. [00:54:11] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. He was in a situation. He was in a situation, and me and one of my buddies, one of my guys, we jumped in and helped him. [00:54:24] Speaker A: Did you know him already or. [00:54:25] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. Yeah, no, we was family, you know, that's why we did what we had to do. But after we, you know, got him up off of him and, you know, roughed him up a little bit, he hit him with a punch so hard. Wow. Oh, my God. He hit him with a punch so hard. I said, this motherfucker. Just imagine this motherfucker, 300 some pounds, and you grab a motherfucker. You come from way down here, and you got him. [00:54:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Boom. [00:54:56] Speaker C: I was like, whew. Wow. [00:54:59] Speaker A: Wouldn't want to be him. [00:55:00] Speaker C: Hell, no. We walked off. We don't after that. But, yeah, yeah, that. That did happen. Yeah, that happened. [00:55:10] Speaker A: That happened. [00:55:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:13] Speaker A: The relationship between you and, you know, Death Row and stuff has always been interesting as far as, like. To me, like, being a connoisseur of our culture on this side. Right. And, yo, you going to the Def Jam, I think, was in relation to you. Like, I guess they wasn't fucking with you at. [00:55:31] Speaker C: Yeah, he wasn't fucking with me. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Has you experienced that throughout your career where people will call you like, yo, can you put me on the phone with Snoop? Or, yo, can you. [00:55:40] Speaker C: Oh, still. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Right? Right, still to this day. [00:55:45] Speaker C: Oh, when he went to the Olympics, my shit was blowing up, right? Everybody trying to get at him. [00:55:51] Speaker A: Right. Do you ever look at that? I mean, I know you don't. You probably, you know. Oh, man, I'm just looking out. I passed the message along, or I pass on the opportunity or whatever. [00:56:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:01] Speaker A: That don't ever, like, make you feel away. Have you ever felt a way about that, even through the Death Row period, where you did go do your own thing because of that situation? [00:56:10] Speaker C: Well, the Death Row situation was just fucked up, you know, they wasn't fucking with me, and it was just like. [00:56:17] Speaker A: But why, though? [00:56:18] Speaker C: I don't know. I'm like, I don't know what I did. I guess. Cause I had a little bit of knowledge. I didn't have a lot of music knowledge, but I knew that if you get a motherfucking contract, you need to have a lawyer look at that motherfucker. Shit. So that might have been what was the. [00:56:40] Speaker A: You were too, like, wise? [00:56:42] Speaker C: Yeah, pretty much. I guess that might have been what had him upset. What had Suge upset. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Right. [00:56:49] Speaker C: You know. Cause we had to come. We bumped heads a few times, and we had a lot of fun too, you know, so we bumped heads and then it would be over with. But I remember they wasn't fucking with me. [00:57:04] Speaker A: I remember talking to Daz about that, period, and I had him on the show, too. I remember talking to Daz, and he was saying that, like. I guess there was always this kind of, like, dissension amongst. Like, we had, like, the dog pound. Had your own program inside of Death Row? [00:57:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:21] Speaker A: Like, y'all was. I don't know. I don't know how to explain this to people to the listeners, but it was like Death Row. But then the dog pound module. [00:57:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:31] Speaker A: Is that. Was that real? Was that a real thing? Like, y'all kind of ran your own little program inside, like, y'all had. He said y'all had a room where y'all would go and the Bloods had they room. [00:57:40] Speaker C: Well, no, that would. See, that was later on. [00:57:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:57:43] Speaker C: That was later on. Like, that was after I was gone. But the way it was before that, we was just in there doing our thing. It was us. We was the backbone of the company. So we was just in there just. The chemistry was just incredible. We were just being there, working from 7, 8 in the morning all the way to 5, 6 in the morning, just standing in there, just doing just dope music. It wasn't a lot of, like. It wasn't like a cripple blood thing. It was more of all of us together. Later on, I guess it turned into that. But we was all together in the beginning. It wasn't no separation here and there. We was mashing this one and you know, like Montreal and Iraq, all the guys from the mob, all our homeboys from Long beach, from insane twenties. It was just. It was just. It was just a whole, like. It was love. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Do you think that. Do you think that you going, taking your. Walking your own path and then everybody else doing anything? Do you think that's what took so long for us to get the albums? Like the 213 albums or because you kind of were like isolated a little bit? [00:59:00] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:59:01] Speaker A: And then Snoop ended up going, you know, doing no limit and stuff like that. [00:59:04] Speaker C: But it just, they. They wasn't. You know, I couldn't get him on a record. Like. [00:59:09] Speaker A: You couldn't get Snoop. [00:59:10] Speaker C: I couldn't get Snoop on a record. [00:59:12] Speaker A: Because Death Row wouldn't like allow it. [00:59:14] Speaker C: Wouldn't allow. Because Suge didn't really dig Lior too much. So. [00:59:23] Speaker A: Damn. [00:59:24] Speaker C: Yeah. So that's high level on his head. He didn't play, he didn't. He didn't give a. So. But it was hurting me at the same time. It's like, damn, you ain't gonna clear this after all the I did here. So it was up. But I didn't hold no grudge against him. I just said, shit, I gotta do my own thing. I'm gonna go and try my hardest to get my name known. I wasn't thinking about gold and platinum or nothing. I just wanted people to hear me. Cause I knew I had good music. From the stuff I did and the people I was around, I knew I had some good shit. [01:00:03] Speaker A: What were those conversations between you? I guess, dog. You, Snoop and like Daz and everybody. Cause y'all Nate, y'all family, like low key related, you know what I'm saying? Like your cousin, this is your, you know, whatever. [01:00:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:16] Speaker A: What were those conversations like amongst yourselves? Whereas you still have to come to the family function. [01:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:22] Speaker A: But then you can't be put them on a record. So it's like, what is that? Were those. Would that. Cause a little. [01:00:28] Speaker C: We didn't never. We didn't even never talk about that shit. Never really? Nah, we never talked about that shit. I did. I was pissed off about them not clearing him because I had him on this dj. [01:00:42] Speaker A: Snoop. [01:00:43] Speaker C: Yeah. He was going. He was on this dj, but I still kept him on there a little bit. What I did is I just made his voice, the chipmunk voice. So if you listen to this DJ and you hear that all that stuff up under me in the beginning. That's Snoop. [01:01:02] Speaker B: Did they know that that was him? [01:01:04] Speaker C: No, because it was the chipmunk boy. I had a Snoop knew it was him. Yeah. I had a character called. Named the G Chap. [01:01:11] Speaker A: Yep. [01:01:12] Speaker C: Yeah. And the G Chop. I used that voice on Snoop because that. That's. They. They probably was gonna think it was damn. Because I used the G. Che. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Did you sign to Death Row during the East Coast, West Coast? [01:01:30] Speaker C: I signed a Def Jam. I signed a Def Jam. Yeah. During all of that. It wasn't no. It wasn't no East Coast, west coast beef. They showed me major love. [01:01:42] Speaker A: That's a myth. [01:01:43] Speaker B: Did you go over there during. [01:01:46] Speaker C: Stay over there all the time. [01:01:48] Speaker B: And how. [01:01:48] Speaker C: Was signed over there. So I had to go. And they showed me love. Love. [01:01:54] Speaker B: So it's a myth. [01:01:55] Speaker C: A myth to me. I didn't. I didn't witness. I mean, I had a couple incidents. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah, but when you say that. [01:02:03] Speaker C: Yeah, but it was just a dude just tripping, period. He just was like. He was thugging, but he was in a wheelchair. We was at. I think it was called Not Louie, but not Willie Burgers in Harlem. This motherfucker was just on a wheelchair tripping some motherfucking west coast shit. I'm. Nigga, what did we do to you? So it was like. He was like. Just kept woofing. So I said, kenny, I'll be right back. We had a van parked right in front of us. So I went in the van first, just leaned down in the seat like. Like, put my shit back up. Then I came back out, and he was still sitting there tripping. And then there was a couple other dudes came from across the street. And I told. I made a couple calls to some guys I knew. One guy that I knew from Harlem that was a powerhouse around there and made a couple calls. I don't want to say the guy named one of the guys that. He's a super powerhouse. He is. He's a superpower house. He like. He in jail right now, locked up for a long time. But he made a couple calls, and it was the guy who owned the soul food joint in Harlem. I forgot the name of it. He came over there and was like, warren, whenever you want to come to my restaurant, you could come there anytime. Da, da, da, da, da. Your homeboys. Whatever y'all want to do, Harlem is yours. Da, da da da da. I was like, hey, it's all good. I'm not tripping. He the one was tripping, so. And you know, it was over with after that, but I was damn sure locked and loaded on his ass. He ain't know it. Time to regulate the motherfucking West Coast. [01:03:53] Speaker A: God damn. [01:03:54] Speaker C: What the fuck wrong with this? [01:03:57] Speaker A: Speaking of that, I wanna. I mean, we wrap up in a second, but I definitely wanna talk about. [01:04:00] Speaker C: We could go as long as you wanna go. [01:04:02] Speaker A: I wanna talk specifically from a West coast perspective. And I remember asking. Who did I ask? [01:04:12] Speaker C: Fuck. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Shout out to Wacko. I was talking to Wacko from Compton. And I was talking. I said, bro, why they don't fuck with us? He was like, bro, they never have. And so what you telling me is contradictory to that from an industry? Not actually. That's streets from an industry standpoint. You say you didn't experience that other regions and like. Cause it's like I had this whole back and forth on the shade room, you know, whatever with this guy. He was saying disparaging things about us. [01:04:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:41] Speaker A: And I was just like, bro, like, why don't people fuck with us? They just don't like us. And even DOC just said it on his record, on Euphoria, like, niggas don't like the West Coast. Yeah, well, you and that. You're saying that that hasn't been your experience to your career. [01:04:57] Speaker C: It ain't been my experience. Damn, you got some motherfuckers that was lashing out a little bit, you know, I kind of, like, gave him the side eye to the next time I seen him like, damn, nigga, that's how you really feel. But the majority, them N is cool. They was always been cool. [01:05:14] Speaker A: I'm not even talking about just New York. [01:05:15] Speaker C: I'm talking about west coast, period. But I'm just gonna give you an example. Like they were saying the East Coast, west coast thing. LL came and picked me up, took me all over from Queens, took me shopping, showed me his house, showed me his clothes. Everything he did in the beginning, he was, like, schooling me. Word came and scooped me up Had a ball down south Love the regulator Damn. DC Love the regulator all them love regulators. [01:05:42] Speaker A: Do you think it's because. Oh, sorry, you had a question. But do you think it's because you were not as boisterous? Like, you weren't as loud as Snoop and Pac, like, the Source Awards, right? That wasn't. [01:05:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I was just being me. [01:05:54] Speaker B: You wasn't out there stepping on buildings. [01:05:56] Speaker A: You wasn't Big Snoop. [01:05:56] Speaker C: No, I wasn't stepping over, kicking over. [01:05:58] Speaker A: Buildings you wasn't part of. [01:06:00] Speaker C: I was in the town. I was in New York when that shit happened. I was there when the shit happened. Snoop Nim had. Cause I talked to Snoop Nim when they was coming in there. Cause I had stuff I had to. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Do for the Source Awards or the. [01:06:13] Speaker C: New York, New York for the Source Awards. The New York, New York, all of that. I was there. Not gonna lie. I did hear some things on the radio. I swear to God, I heard that. Me and the twins, we was in the limo on our way to the. [01:06:27] Speaker A: Like, they was basically talking shit about, like. [01:06:29] Speaker C: Yeah, it was that. I heard that. What they say, you know, I don't want to get into who was saying it. [01:06:36] Speaker A: No, no, who said it? Fuck who said it. [01:06:38] Speaker C: But I know who said it. They doing a video here, and this. [01:06:43] Speaker A: Is where it's at. Yeah, they put that. They gave the address to the video shoot. [01:06:47] Speaker C: The little city. Word. Yeah. And what's so crazy is when I. When I heard about what happened. [01:06:52] Speaker A: That's so crazy. [01:06:53] Speaker C: Guess who I was in the club with? We and the motherfucker lounge in that motherfucker. Chilling, drinking, every, you know, gang. It was, you know. Cause they lounge. They have, like, a lot of lounges. So it'd be packed with women. Guy. Everybody in there. So Grand Puba. I was. That was me and Snoop, Die hard. Groupies, fans. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:17] Speaker C: So I'm. I get. I'm hanging with grand puba, fanning out, you know, when I found out what happened, you know, So I got to calling and calling Snoop and them and blowing them up. So they let me know they was all right, you know, and they was on their way to Jersey, you know, I don't know if anybody ever said that they went to Jersey, but they went to Jersey, and that's his store. [01:07:40] Speaker A: And got out of the way of. [01:07:41] Speaker C: He's Pookie. Pookie. That's who had brought him to Jersey was Pookie. Yeah, the homie Pookie. And it was. It was. You know, they was upset. [01:07:53] Speaker A: Were you at the Source Awards? [01:07:55] Speaker C: I was there, but I wasn't there. I was there. [01:08:00] Speaker A: What does that mean? I don't know what I'm thinking of. [01:08:03] Speaker B: What you're putting down. [01:08:04] Speaker C: I was there, but I was there, and I was like. [01:08:08] Speaker B: He was low. [01:08:08] Speaker A: Oh, oh, okay. [01:08:11] Speaker C: By myself. [01:08:12] Speaker A: By yourself. [01:08:13] Speaker C: By myself. [01:08:14] Speaker A: But you wasn't a part of that. Because you couldn't. Because you wasn't fucking with Suge. [01:08:17] Speaker C: I was back in the cut by myself. [01:08:20] Speaker B: The love that you got when you went on the east coast, was it. The east coast artists get the same love when they came over here. [01:08:26] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. We Axe Busta Rhyme and leaders of the New School Tribe Called Quest Latifah, Naughty by nature. You could ask any of them. [01:08:40] Speaker A: We used to. [01:08:41] Speaker C: Apache. Apache was our. I don't know if y'all remember Apache. I need a gangster bitch I want a gangster bitch I wanna. With my. I need a. Oh, that was our guy. Everybody. Das Effects shit, Biggie, everybody that came over here, we go smoke them out. [01:09:04] Speaker B: Was the media spinning these stories? Cause there's a. There's a. There's a clip that exists on YouTube of East coast people and west coast people on camera, and they both saying, f. You know, each side. But that's what I'm saying. Like, was that a media. Like, was the media trying to spin it? [01:09:21] Speaker C: They had. They was definitely spinning that. Cause it's video of us, me, Snoop and Tupac and Biggie. We all freestyling. It's videos. All of that out there, you know, we was cool. Everybody was cool. [01:09:39] Speaker A: Were you. Where were you at in your career when we lost Pac and then when we lost Biggie, like, were you. [01:09:48] Speaker C: I was cracking. Like, Warren G was hot. [01:09:51] Speaker A: No, I'm talking about creatively. Creatively. [01:09:56] Speaker C: Just like, were you more focused on. [01:10:00] Speaker A: The solo career or you wanted to get back in producing? [01:10:03] Speaker C: I was doing mainly music. That's what I do. [01:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:06] Speaker C: Before I do anything, I just do tons of music. [01:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:09] Speaker C: And then I go back to it and then just start listening to ones that hit me and I'm like, damn, that's hard. I use this one. Or if this one sound like this should go to him, this one should go there, there. You know? But I produce before I do anything year round. Yeah. [01:10:29] Speaker A: So when I just did a beating. [01:10:31] Speaker C: The car I had, I was on my phone, I just did a beat while I was on my way here. [01:10:36] Speaker A: You made a beat on your way here in the car? [01:10:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:38] Speaker A: You got an app? [01:10:40] Speaker C: No, I got my MacBook, my little keyboard. [01:10:45] Speaker A: Oh, you literally made a beat. [01:10:46] Speaker C: Yeah. Went into Logic. [01:10:47] Speaker A: And I use Logic, too. That's for it. [01:10:49] Speaker C: Yep. Pull plug in up. [01:10:51] Speaker A: So how long you been in Logic? [01:10:53] Speaker C: Shit, I've been in Logic for a while. [01:10:56] Speaker A: Did you make. Did you make. [01:10:58] Speaker C: And still learning some new shit in that motherfucker. I'm like, damn. I didn't know Logic could do this. [01:11:04] Speaker A: Okay. I'm about to nerd out. But anyway, I guess where I was going with that was when. Cause she was saying the media was spinning the East Coast, west coast thing, but you kind of. Like, you just said you was at the Source Awards. You was low. You know what I'm saying? You were inconspicuous. You weren't really prevalent as far as being a voice to speak out around this time either. As far as, like, what I can remember, like, even when we lost, even when Pac was gone, all the tension was on Suge and all attention was on Dog and like, their relationship and however that played out or whatever. And then when Big. I didn't hear anything. Warren G, like, around that whole period. [01:11:42] Speaker C: Right. [01:11:42] Speaker A: So that's why. [01:11:44] Speaker C: Bullshit. Biggie Small said. He said my name hard and loud. [01:11:48] Speaker A: No, no, no. I'm talking about as far as, like. About the whole thing. Like, your name wasn't involved in the Bulls. [01:11:52] Speaker C: Oh, no, no, no. Never. [01:11:54] Speaker A: Your name was never in Brooklyn. [01:11:55] Speaker C: I tried to. [01:11:56] Speaker A: You were intentional about that. [01:11:57] Speaker C: Yes, I tried to. Actually tried to bring them together. I went to Bed Stuy, Brooklyn. Jacob York took me and my uncle and one of our other. My other homeboy, who was my security, but he was from Bed Stuy too. It was him, Jacob York and my Uncle Ron. And I think so I forgot who else was with us, but we went right into Bedside on Biggie street, went right up to him and all the little seeds. He'd tell you they were sitting on the. You know how they got the little. The porches got the long little brick looking. Yeah. [01:12:32] Speaker A: Stoop. [01:12:33] Speaker C: Yeah. They was chilling and shit. We jumped out, started chopping it up. And we walked to the corner store and I had to do it. Got private stock, walked back and just chopping it up, just about the whole thing. And I told him, I said, you know what I'm gonna try to do is I'm gonna try to get at Pac and tell him that you not tripping. You don't want to be. You don't want this shit to be happening. He said that shit straight up. He said, I ain't got nothing against him. [01:13:04] Speaker A: He told you that? [01:13:05] Speaker C: Yeah, he said, I ain't got nothing against him. And was with everything, like, to clear it up, everything. Just couldn't get at Pac. Cause he was on the move. [01:13:16] Speaker B: Had you foreseen the. Oh, I'm sorry. Was you going to say something else? [01:13:20] Speaker C: No, no, no, I'm sorry. [01:13:21] Speaker B: Had you foreseen the downfall of Death Row and Bad Boy? [01:13:28] Speaker C: No, I wasn't really. I wasn't really paying attention to it. I mean, you know, some of the things that I was saying that was going on, I was just like these. This. This. This shit is crazy. You know, Just like the shit Talking back and forth and, you know, shit. Motherfuckers getting caught slipping. As far as, like, at a club or something. All that shit was crazy. But I really wasn't. I was. I was on. I was on my shit. [01:14:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:14:01] Speaker C: Trying to. Trying to get bigger, you know, trying to advance. [01:14:05] Speaker B: Whatever happened to your girl group, the five Footers? [01:14:10] Speaker C: I mean, they still around, you know. Then my girls. It started off with Josh Scales. She was at Cal State Long beach. And that's the Super Solstice. That's. That's what I put on Super Solstice on the Regulated G Funk era. And that was a trip because she was just. She was in a. Like a cipher, pretty much. I was up at Cal State tricking, because we used to go to the parties up there. That's where all the ladies was at up at the college. The beautiful ladies, you know, with a head on their shoulders. That's where they was at. [01:14:52] Speaker A: He said, tricking. [01:14:53] Speaker C: Yeah. So that. Back then. But that was just, you know. So I was hanging out and. And I heard her in a cipher with some cash. She was busting. So I was like, damn. I was like, what's your name? She was like, josh Gills. And I was like, can I have your number? I want to put you on my album. I told her just like that. So I actually played the beat from my car. I played the beat for her right there in the car. The boom, boom, boom, boom. I said, you got a verse for that? She was like, yeah. Gave it to her a couple days later. She was like, I got the verse wrote. So I booked the time. She came up in there, and soon as she said the first couple words, I was like, oh, that's motherfucker hard right here. Well, I'm the super, the duper, the Land Cruiser trooper. I said, oh, my God. And she was just. She. She was just dope, just still dope. And from that came Knee High. Knee High was tight with one of my other homegirls named Samora. So Knee High came. Oh, actually, you know what? Neb and Knee High actually came. It was about the same time. Neb and Knee High both came around the same time because my home girl Samara was hitting me like, I got a girl worn named Nehi. That's tight. So I said, shit, have her come up to the studio. So Nehi came up, she was busting. Josh Skills was there. They was busting. So they became cool. And then Josh Skills told me about Neb Love. So we brought Neb Love up in there. Neb was Tight. She was busing. And my dad and Neb's dad actually worked at McDonnell Douglas together, so that was a trip. So that was like, oh, that makes it even better. And then K Bar and Cobra Red came after that, so they. And then Pinky came. So it was a gang of them. They was dope, you know, the girls was dope. It's just. It just, you know, it didn't really work out. And it wasn't because of the. It wasn't. Didn't work out because of the music. It just. It was because you had so many different egos and attitudes and, like, I ain't downing nobody at the same time, but it was just a lot of different things going on within the group. Some agree, some don't agree. This, this. So it's just. It became a headache. And I love all of them. They all still my girls, and, you know, I'm riding with them still, period to this day, and I still think they some of the hardest girls to put it, you know, and rap still, it just, you know, it didn't work out. But then my girls, they still my girls. Ain't nothing changed, actually. Josh Skills is going to be on tour with me doing Super Soul. Since when I go out, the twins going to get down with me. You know, I got some. This tour that I'm getting ready to do real soon is I got some really dope things that I'm doing within it before songs. And it's like a lot of dope. Lot of dope stuff. I don't want to spoil it. I just want everybody to be surprised when they see how dope it's going to be. [01:18:25] Speaker A: I want to. [01:18:26] Speaker B: No, I was going to say, I think that's dope that you were embracing female rappers back then. Because I like the ladies today. [01:18:33] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a lot on all them buses. [01:18:35] Speaker B: A lot of people say that this era was like the first. Our generation is the first generation to actually embrace female rappers. But I remember it was like, random women, no disrespect. Like, I don't know who that is on Thug Passion. Like, it's just like, I don't know. [01:18:48] Speaker A: Who the girl is on. [01:18:49] Speaker C: I'm gonna tell your name in a minute. [01:18:51] Speaker A: It's the thuggish, ruggish bone. [01:18:53] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. It's like y'all era did put on. And not to say they random, but they weren't established artists. [01:19:00] Speaker C: Yeah, like. Like I said, Latifah, Moni Love. Yo, yo. It was every. Every Mia Mia X. Mamma Mia. That's what I mean. [01:19:17] Speaker B: Who was that on? You can run the streets with your thugs. Who is that? [01:19:22] Speaker C: I'm trying to. Her name. [01:19:24] Speaker B: Is that the same person from Thug Fashion? [01:19:26] Speaker C: Yes, it was that. Her name was. I think that. I think they called her Alize. I think that's what they called her. Alize, if I'm not mistaken. Damn. It was somebody that slipped my mind when I was naming the girls. I mean, the ladies. Shit, it was a lot of dope women. And we all. We never downed the women. Never. I don't know where they got that from. That's crazy. And then to this day, you know, right now, shit, the women busting harder than a lot of these dudes. [01:20:00] Speaker B: They're literally dominating the music industry right now. [01:20:03] Speaker C: Dominating. Yeah, Glow. Really get them Glo Facts. Yeah, Glow. [01:20:10] Speaker A: I would love to hear you do something with glow. [01:20:12] Speaker C: Oh, that'll be a man. Cause it'll be different. Musically different. [01:20:18] Speaker A: I want to do. Talk about. You just mentioned the tour, but also Let Me Breathe. That's out now. You. Zo sama, you always. I look at you. I look at E40. I look at Even Dog as somebody. As people who always have embraced the youth. Even Savvy. Third would be one. Like, you've always embraced the new wave of talent. You know what I'm saying? And I appreciate that, just being somebody who look up to y'all. [01:20:43] Speaker C: Much love. [01:20:43] Speaker A: And I do the same thing as well. But Let Me Breathe. Is that like a film? Because. [01:20:50] Speaker C: Nah. [01:20:50] Speaker A: Okay. [01:20:51] Speaker C: It's the video. We just don't. [01:20:52] Speaker A: But it's cinematic. Like, the way you. The way you. I look at it, like, regular. Like it was. It's like the same thing. Like, it's like a whole thing. [01:21:00] Speaker C: Yeah. Just bringing that back to videos. Cause a lot of the videos today, all you see is just a gang of motherfuckers in there throwing up sets and guns and shit and doing. You know, it's no creativity. [01:21:17] Speaker B: They in front of green screens. [01:21:20] Speaker C: I'm like, we need to get some creativity going. [01:21:23] Speaker B: We need the storylines back in music videos. [01:21:25] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. So we. I got it, too. I'll let you guys. I'll show it to you guys. I got it on my phone. I just. I just wanted to bring some. Some of that good feeling back to music. Cause it's like, I asked. I. This might sound crazy, but I asked my lawyer. I asked him the other day. I said, man, is music dead? And he was like, nah, hell no. He said, it's far from dead. Cause I was like, this shit has just done got weird. [01:22:01] Speaker B: It's not dead, it's just in shambles. [01:22:03] Speaker C: This shit is weird. Like. But what's good about a lot of it now is that it seemed like it's going back to an independent game. And that's how a lot of artists can win and get. They just do, you know? Cause I'm telling you, I sold a lot of records. Did a lot for Def Jam, Did a whole lot for Def Jam. Brought them out of being a company that was about to fold to now it's a billion dollar company, you know. And I asked just for one thing, I said, let me get my masters back. They just shitted on me. Like, no, straight up. [01:22:50] Speaker A: No. [01:22:50] Speaker C: Yeah, you gotta wait. [01:22:52] Speaker A: Just a straight up. No. Like no explanation. [01:22:54] Speaker C: No, no, you gotta wait. And I understand his business, but I did a lot, you know, So I should get a little extra love. I know it's a time period which is coming back in about the next four years. [01:23:09] Speaker A: Okay? [01:23:10] Speaker C: But fuck waiting for four years. I want that shit now. Give it to me. Give it up. Let me live off my shit. [01:23:16] Speaker A: Yeah. The last question I'm asking. And interrupt what you just said. As far as the masters thing, have you. I heard. I don't know how true it is where you can rerecord. [01:23:26] Speaker C: Yeah, I could. [01:23:27] Speaker A: You could rerecord the songs and then you then own the master of that. [01:23:31] Speaker C: Yes, indeed. Yes indeed. [01:23:32] Speaker A: Cause I know Taylor Swift. [01:23:34] Speaker C: Yeah, she kicked the door down. Oh my God, she did. Ashanti did. There's a couple people that did. [01:23:44] Speaker A: Would you tell an artist to sign a label, a record deal at this point. [01:23:50] Speaker C: If you feel like that the record that you have is a record that you think could go worldwide. Yeah. Cause you need that support to get it. Even though we got the Internet. But you gonna need like, you need that super duper support to just push it, push it, push it. I'm not saying that the labels, major labels are bad. And you see what they doing. They cutting all of the bullshit up out of it, out of these labels. Like all that laying everybody off, that Pitty Patty shit, they getting rid of all of that shit and kind of turning it back into you really, hopefully that they turned it back into. You really gotta have an art, you know, you got really have to be talented to get put on. And just anybody just can't do a record. And then it go viral. And then you like, okay, you know. Cause it just fades in and out, in and out. And we want records that we could have, you know, when it plays, brings back memories. We don't get that no more. I try to do that with whatever I'm doing. And I'm independent, though. I'm independent. Only way. If I signed with a label again, it was some that reached out, but they got a break. They gotta give up a bag, a major bag. Cause I'm not getting ready to go through the shit I went through again. So they'd have to get, you know, come with a bag, you know. Cause you. I'm. You got a producer slash artist slash actor slash motherfucker that'll kick your ass. [01:25:26] Speaker A: Hey, man, do you have anything? Yeah. [01:25:29] Speaker B: I want to know if you remember this day. [01:25:32] Speaker A: Well, she's holding up her laptop for the people listening to her. [01:25:35] Speaker C: As vivid as definitely. [01:25:40] Speaker B: Can you tell us about this day? [01:25:41] Speaker C: That was. I was. I was producing a record for Thug Life. Went in there and just started popping discs in my MPC 60. And Tupac Nimmin. And Tupac Macadocious. Mac 10. Macadocious. Little runner. Big psychic, baby. A little Runner. Big Runner. It was all my guys. And Richie Rich. Was the gov There? No, I don't think the Gov was there. It was Richie Rich. He was there. And we were just in the studio, and I had one of my guys that was with me back in the day, B Tip, he was there. He was the one who filmed it. Yeah. [01:26:38] Speaker B: And who's holding all this footage? Cause I'll be wondering, like, he need. [01:26:43] Speaker C: To give me my goddamn footage. Cause I was paying his ass. And the N sold my footage to somebody else, but they can't use it. You gotta tap in. Yeah, yeah. [01:26:53] Speaker B: Any biopics or, like, documentaries in the work? [01:26:57] Speaker C: Well, I'm about to get the. I don't know if you seen this one I had out. It was on YouTube Premium called G Funk. You gotta see it. I'm watching when I get home, please. Then you'll know who Warren is. You'll be like, damn. Okay, now, see, but everything is being reverted back. So I'll be able to put it out on Netflix or Amazon or any of the platforms for. For documentaries or movies, period. Once people get a chance to see that, then they gonna really be like, damn. Cause that's. It's broken down from, like, everybody you got. Every only person ain't in there is Dre, but he is on talking on a video thing. So he in there on that. But that's a really deep documentary. That was my, like. I really gave my story to a young guy. His name was Carm. Gill, I brought him from out of college. He wasn't doing nothing like he was doing filming. You know, he was in college for film and tv. But I took him under my wing and I told him, I said, I want you to start filming my shows for me. So he would follow me filming shows, and he'd send me back what he filmed. And I was like, damn, that shit is dope. So I kept him. And he was so good. I said, man, I said, if I told you my story, would you put it together with me for a documentary? So he was like, yeah. So I told him all the different events, like mapped it all out, different events on what happened. And we put it on the board, that storyboard thing. And he did an incredible job. And now he's doing like the biggest names in Hollywood and, like in the music too. Like that big dude, that big old mouse head and all, he be doing all they videos, filming for all them. All of the. Every major actor in the game, he's working with them now. And that was from what I did for him. It took him to the next level, you know, and he always hit me like, warren, how can I pay you back? Damn, you gonna film this. Do this motherfucking video for me. For me. And Wiz Khalifa. Mad at all single that's coming after. Let me breathe. [01:29:31] Speaker A: There you go. There you go. [01:29:34] Speaker C: So. But that's my guy. And. But the documentary, it'll really give you the story of myself. And then it opens up a lot that people didn't know. With Snoop, with dlc. I got Ice T on there. I got Wiz Khalifa. I got everybody on there. Russell Simmons on there. I got everybody on there. It's a really, really, really dope documentary that nobody has really got a chance to see. But the people that had YouTube Premium, you know, And I can't wait for everybody, they may be trying to hold it back so the world don't see it. Cause it'll put a whole new light on. Not in a bad way. It put a whole new light on me as far as what I've done. So, like, when people will be like, you did a lot for everything, for everybody. And you don't get the flowers or you don't do that. Because people say that to me all the time 24 7. And this will open up to let everybody know. Yeah, let them know what time. [01:30:47] Speaker A: That's how I started this conversation. I just wanted to make sure you. [01:30:49] Speaker C: Get that just due much love, man. And I mean that shit here. We always talked about getting up in this motherfucker. And, you know, getting down. I told you, we being here all night, you text me all kind of shit, but I know y'all tired. [01:31:03] Speaker A: No, no, it's not about that. It's just, you know, I don't think you could be summed up into one conversation now. [01:31:11] Speaker C: I dig it. [01:31:11] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? I think it's like, I want to check out that doc, too. Yeah, I want to see that. But I just want to say I appreciate you sharing stories and sharing you. Because you don't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? And also because you're very generous with your platform and you shared a lot with everybody. So, you know, that's much respect for that. [01:31:31] Speaker C: Much love. [01:31:32] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? And I know Gina feel the same. Like, she want to ask you hella shit. [01:31:36] Speaker B: I have, like, so many more questions. [01:31:39] Speaker C: Shoot at me. [01:31:40] Speaker A: We got to do. We got to do another one. Like, you got to come back, you know, when you. When you. After the tour. Cause I want to hear them groupie love stories. [01:31:48] Speaker C: Yes, indeed. Well, no, it ain't no more groupie love. [01:31:52] Speaker B: He tried to set you up. [01:31:53] Speaker C: I'm married now, so. [01:31:55] Speaker A: Yeah, he's like, hell, whoa. [01:31:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:31:58] Speaker A: You trying to start problems at the house. [01:31:59] Speaker C: That. That. That's. You know, it ain't no more of that. We got six kids. [01:32:04] Speaker B: Wifey love. [01:32:05] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Church. [01:32:06] Speaker A: No, but definitely. I definitely want you to come back. You know what I'm saying? [01:32:10] Speaker C: After. [01:32:10] Speaker A: After you get off the road and you settle down and you get back in, and we got the project and everything. [01:32:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:32:16] Speaker A: So. [01:32:16] Speaker C: Yes, indeed. [01:32:17] Speaker A: But I appreciate you. [01:32:18] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Thank you. [01:32:19] Speaker A: And we do it again. Gina views DJ heads, effective immediately. The legend Warren G. Yes, indeed.