Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: I'm DJ Head and it's your favorite homegirl, Gina Bues.
[00:00:07] Speaker A: We have a special guest in the building. I'm not gonna say your name, I'm gonna call you Grammy nominated. Black is here.
[00:00:14] Speaker C: I appreciate it, bro. Good to see you.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? You gotta put some respect on it, first and foremost. Welcome to the show.
[00:00:20] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: I appreciate it. Thank you for being here. We was talking. Can we talk about what we were saying right now?
[00:00:25] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: So you move to la? Yep. Okay, let's start here. Because I get into it with my homies in Atlanta a lot. They tell me to come home.
I say very inappropriate things that I can't repeat on the radio about them and their ancestors because they talk shit about me and my people out here. What's your favorite and least favorite thing about la?
[00:00:50] Speaker C: I mean, I got plenty of favorites. Like, I moved out here mainly because I like the range that I have and when I. When it comes to what I want to do outside of music. So if I want to go to the mountains, if I want to go to the beach, if I want to go to the desert, if I want to go to another city, all I gotta do is hop in my car and go. And as far as that, as far as, like, wellness, like, there's just. It's plenty out here for me to do. Yeah. And everything that I needed to get from Atlanta for 20 something years, like, I got it so good now I need something different. As far as what I don't like your least favorite. I don't like how unwalkable it is sometimes.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: Well, that depend on where you live, where you.
[00:01:27] Speaker C: Yeah, Depend on where you live, where you live. I know for sure.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: And you got a little bit of money, so.
[00:01:30] Speaker C: For sure. For sure, for sure.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: So where you live is probably not walkable.
[00:01:34] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Yeah, but I mean, I just mean, like walking shit. Like. Yeah. I mean, downtown is walkable, but downtown a little scary sometimes.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: Downtown is not walkable.
[00:01:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, stuff. Things are next to each other is what I mean. But you don't really want to be walking, like, taking downtown.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: Got that stitch?
[00:01:50] Speaker C: Yeah, you know. You know, got the stitch, you know.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: You got a dog?
[00:01:53] Speaker C: No, I don't do that.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: You don't fuck with animals.
[00:01:55] Speaker C: I like cats.
[00:01:56] Speaker A: You like cats?
[00:01:56] Speaker B: You like cats?
[00:01:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:57] Speaker A: Oh, nah, they easy. We gotta rap this, like, without a
[00:02:00] Speaker B: gun in your head.
[00:02:00] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: So that's crazy.
[00:02:02] Speaker C: Y' all like dogs? I'M not taking no dog for no fucking walk. Just, just.
[00:02:06] Speaker A: Oh, you want no maintenance?
[00:02:07] Speaker C: Yeah, like okay, low maintenance. That's the only reason why I like cats. Like you ain't gotta do nothing. You leave the food in a bowl, leave the water, you can leave them for a couple days. They fine.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Go on tour.
[00:02:15] Speaker C: Yeah, they excited. They excited to see you for about two seconds. Then they leave you alone. And the dog, they just require too much. Like I got kids and that's enough.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: I feel you.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:02:24] Speaker C: I feel that dogs are kids.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: So you've been here for a minute. That mean you like our food?
[00:02:28] Speaker C: I love the food out here. Yeah, there's plenty.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: We got one.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: We got one.
[00:02:33] Speaker C: I don't any of the lure that other folks be saying about out here. I have convos with folks all day where I'm just like. You just ain't looking like facts or you just not good at looking like it's just one or the other. But once you find your spots and you just mark them in your little maps like you good, you got a
[00:02:47] Speaker B: go to spot O.
[00:02:48] Speaker C: For what? Like it just depends on what you talking about. For sushi. Yes.
Kim Bay and Silver Lake. I love that spot.
And it's real lowkey too. It's like by itself like I'll be
[00:02:58] Speaker A: going over there to Silver Lake.
[00:02:59] Speaker C: It look like it only fit like 20 people in there, but it's like top tier.
Kim B. Yeah. K E M B E Y.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: What's the one you like?
[00:03:08] Speaker A: I like. I got a few of them.
[00:03:10] Speaker B: I mean the one over here.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: Oh, you talking about sugar fish?
[00:03:13] Speaker B: No, it's one that we be going to. That's over.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: Oh, the katana. But we don't be getting the sushi there. Katsuya.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: Katsuya.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't be getting the sushi though. We get the, the fish and.
[00:03:24] Speaker C: Okay, they like the ones with the fish with the eyes on it.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: I get the whole fish.
[00:03:28] Speaker C: I can't do that.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: You can't do that either.
[00:03:31] Speaker C: None looking at me while I'm eating.
[00:03:33] Speaker A: You got a few isms, bro.
[00:03:35] Speaker C: We could get into it, but I do.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: What's your what? Other isms.
[00:03:38] Speaker C: You got milk, mayo, sour cream, whipped cream.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: So you know dairy white.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: Just that.
[00:03:44] Speaker A: Oh, cuz it's.
Cuz it's white.
[00:03:48] Speaker C: Yo. Vanilla ice cream, condiment, bigot. Just everything under that white family. Yeah, I'm good.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: What?
[00:03:55] Speaker C: I don't want no parts.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: Marshmallows.
[00:03:58] Speaker C: Marshmallows are cool, but I just, I'm not gonna just Eat a marshmallow. Like, I see them Rice Krispies. I appreciate them, but I'm good.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: You don't eat nothing white?
[00:04:05] Speaker C: Not nothing. It's just certain. Anything that reminds me of milk or that's close to milk, I'm straight on.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: Name something white you eat.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:04:13] Speaker C: It's crazy.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: And he asked you some shit like that when he's straight crazy.
[00:04:16] Speaker A: My bad.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: That was crazy.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: Let me tell you something.
[00:04:19] Speaker C: Commercial break, come back.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: All right, we gonna move on. We gonna move on my grandma recipes. Shout out to Martha B. It was this white man bro tried to holler her in the bowling alley. And she looked at this white man and said, honey, I don't even wear white draws.
And I was like, grandma, you can't say shit like that to people.
But she from the South.
[00:04:35] Speaker C: Yeah, she meant that. That's crazy.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: You fuck with horchata?
[00:04:38] Speaker C: Nah, I'm good.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: Dang. I'm trying to think of something that's gonna, like, make.
[00:04:43] Speaker C: I mean, like icing on cake. Like, that's cool. It don't really taste like nothing too Darius for me.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: I don't fuck with dairy either, but it's.
[00:04:51] Speaker C: But the thing is, I can have like, dairy insert. Like if I'm making Mac and cheese or making mashed potatoes or whatever like that has milk in it.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: I'm like, oh, you eat mashed potatoes?
[00:05:00] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure.
[00:05:01] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay. That's white.
[00:05:03] Speaker A: Yeah, Paul, we got.
[00:05:06] Speaker C: All right, that's enough on that.
That's enough on that part.
[00:05:10] Speaker B: How long have you been against.
I don't wanna say white things.
[00:05:14] Speaker C: Since childhood.
[00:05:16] Speaker B: Since you was a kid?
[00:05:16] Speaker C: Yeah, since everybody knew too. In my school, like, folks knew. Don't come near me.
[00:05:20] Speaker B: Like a fear.
[00:05:21] Speaker C: It wasn't even. It was just like a deep disgust. Like, I don't.
[00:05:24] Speaker A: It's kinda like that's high Em with buttons.
[00:05:26] Speaker C: I don't want that shit around me.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: You might've been here before.
[00:05:28] Speaker C: Of course, my last week of school too. In high school, I got hit with a milk carton. And it was like.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: Was it full?
[00:05:33] Speaker C: It was full.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: Were you traumatized?
[00:05:35] Speaker C: It was one of them moments when something happens and you look down. Like when you looking up, everything's normal. You get hit and you look up and now everybody's surrounding you.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Okay, so look. What if your so happened when I gave me a heads up, right? And what if I put a cart in the middle in front of you right now? You gonna trip out.
[00:05:50] Speaker C: I'm not gonna trip, but I'm gonna think something wrong with you.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Oh, I ain't got a cart in the middle. I'm fucking with you.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: Cause if you threw a box of buttons at him.
[00:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm tripping.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: He'll lose his mind.
[00:06:00] Speaker C: Buttons?
[00:06:00] Speaker B: He's scared of buttons.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: He don't look, you don't like white shit buttons.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't fuck with buttons, bro. The same disgust you have for that.
I don't like buttons for an award show. You just go chest out. No, nigga, I wear the Dr. Dre knitted tees.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: You got your chest out.
Tees out on the red carpet is crazy.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: Now you wear a jacket covering him up. You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:26] Speaker C: Okay, okay.
[00:06:27] Speaker A: But anyway, thank you for being here.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: Now we got all your phobias out the way.
[00:06:34] Speaker A: You somebody. I've never had a chance to really talk to you before, but I do. Like I've been a fan of certain things that you've done right. Appreciate it.
First of all, I know since I never had a chance to talk to you about X calling was my introduction to you. I know you probably was doing your thing, but was. And I know you probably answered these questions a million times, but I've never talked to you about specifically. When I heard that song, I had this girl that I. That was in and out of my life. I say it like that, right.
Has anybody approached you about that song being about them and it wasn't about them?
[00:07:09] Speaker C: No, nobody's ever approached me about that song being about them. But whoever the person who I made it about, they know it's about them.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: It was about a person.
[00:07:17] Speaker C: It was about somebody specific, for sure.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Did they get publishing on the record?
[00:07:21] Speaker C: Yeah, no. Absolutely no. No problems. And ex calling like they were. It was the same thing. Same situation.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: Same situation, yeah. Okay. So you like a long term relationship type of guy?
[00:07:35] Speaker C: I guess so, yeah. Yeah.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Are you emo? Like, do you get in your feelings about it? Like you really like?
[00:07:42] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I'm a long term type of nigga for sure.
[00:07:47] Speaker A: So if a girl fuck with you, she gonna end up on a record at good or bad?
[00:07:52] Speaker C: Yes, Damn. Absolutely.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: How much of the music is based on your personal experience and then how much of the music is based on the experience of others?
[00:08:05] Speaker C: I would say 90% is just me. Yeah, yeah, just. Just me and my situations for sure. But it's cool cuz I'm like, I'm at the part now where I'm talking about like myself and my situation. But I'm still in my relationship, so that's like. That's new for me to have to figure out, like, how to dissect something and talk about it while also, like, being respectful of, like, just the fact that you putting it out to the world.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: So is Fatal Attraction based on a true story?
[00:08:29] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: In what way?
[00:08:35] Speaker C: That's a good one to ask about, too. That's a good one to ask.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: That's a nice song.
[00:08:38] Speaker C: Thank you. I appreciate that. Like, Fatal Attraction, for me, like, I.
I feel like when you are in the industry and dealing with fatherhood and juggling, like, a bunch of stuff at once, like, your relationships can sometimes get a little bit diluted and the intimacy can, like, take a hit. And for me, in the last maybe, like, three to five years, I'm just like, how do I make sure that part of my life is, like, continuously on the up? Because we getting older, so naturally it kind of, like, regresses, but I'm like, nah, I want my shit to be like.
I'm trying to be excited all the time about this shit. Like, I'm trying to, like, have my moments with my lady and that shit be fun for as long as our limbs fucking work. So, yeah.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: When do you decide which information is good for music? Good for, like, you to make music, and then what part of it needs to remain a secret?
[00:09:30] Speaker C: You don't know until after it's bounced out and played back. So you make. You make it first, and then after you make it, you know, you'd be like, I can't really say that. Or I can't really do that one right there. So we've had a couple of songs to where I'm just like, that ain't. That's just not where I'm at. That's not how I want to step right now. Right. It might be true, you know, but maybe I sound, like, a little bit too arrogant in that moment, and that's just not how I want to talk about it. Because you was, I don't know, upset that day, and it just. You popped off a different type of way.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: So do you ask for per.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: I'm sorry?
[00:09:58] Speaker B: Do you ask for permission from your significant other? Like, is it okay for me to tell this part of the story?
And if the answer is no, do you still put it out if it's something that you're really in love with?
[00:10:10] Speaker C: I don't literally have to ask for permission, but what I did with this last album, too, is the same way that you do with your friends or your label or anybody. When it was done, I had a day where I set aside where she came to the studio. It was just me and her. We played the album from top to bottom. I didn't have to ask anything. It was more just like, you know, this is. This song, this is what it's about. Play it. And then if she got anything she want to say or ask or talk about, then cool. But otherwise, like, she's an artist too, so she gets it. Like, we both. We both, you know, use music to express ourselves. So I'm not really, like, pulling no
[00:10:43] Speaker A: punches with her being an artist. Have you ever had conversations about boundaries on what to express and how to express it or what's allowed? Not. Not permission. But I'm saying boundaries.
[00:10:53] Speaker C: Not really. Like, I don't.
[00:10:55] Speaker A: I mean, so she put out anything, you would be okay with it.
[00:10:58] Speaker C: Like, it is what it is. Yeah. And the thing is, like, we have a respect for each other, so it would never be anything that's like, disrespectful or detrimental to, like, each other. So, you know, we don't really have to ask the questions, literally. Cause it's just kind of understood. It's just like, don't make me look crazy.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:13] Speaker C: And that's it.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: Has there been a time where she, like, just cooked you?
[00:11:18] Speaker C: I get cooked.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: You was like, damn, I get cooked
[00:11:21] Speaker C: regularly, but that's just in regular life. On songs.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:24] Speaker C: No, I don't think. I don't think she cooking me on songs.
[00:11:26] Speaker B: She ain't cooking your own songs.
[00:11:27] Speaker C: No, no, no. I just get cooked. In real life.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: There's a tweet floating around.
[00:11:32] Speaker C: Oh, shit.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: And the tweet asks the question basically, like, what songs are you nasty to?
Somebody asked, like, I just need a suggestion of, like, all the songs that I could get nasty to. And you pop up a few times. So it made me wonder. Number one, do artists get cracking to their own music? And number two, what's on your after hour playlist?
[00:11:53] Speaker C: The answer to the first question is absolutely.
If it's on. Especially, like, again, like, you're talking artists and artists. We both love the shit that we make. The shit that she makes is beautiful. The shit that I make, like, if it's within the right realm, like, it makes sense. So if we go on a trip somewhere and we are, you know, we got like our playlist of unreleased songs on loop, then that just might be what sets the scene.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: That's hella vain. Black.
[00:12:18] Speaker C: Nah,
[00:12:21] Speaker A: bro. You know, get throwing that black, babe. I'M Finn where this side is.
[00:12:24] Speaker C: But it's not like I'm not me personally. I'm not like throwing my music on for the moment. But if it's on and the moment happens, then cool. But. And same for her. Like, if her music is already playing, like, I'd rather hear her voice than somebody else. Random shit. Like, why we in a moment you
[00:12:39] Speaker B: gotta test drive the car before you
[00:12:40] Speaker C: buy it, you know, I don't wanna hear nobody else. I'm straight.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: Has there anything just randomly come on that you had to turn it off?
[00:12:46] Speaker C: For sure. I'm not sure what songs. Cause I know that's probably the follow up
[00:12:53] Speaker A: who he skipping, but hell yeah, this ain't it.
[00:12:56] Speaker C: Yeah, hell yeah. For sure, for sure. Yeah, you gotta lean over.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:12:59] Speaker C: Hit next.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: Hit next.
What's on your after hour playlist?
[00:13:03] Speaker C: My after hour playlist right now. It ain't nothing on my after hour playlist because I just want to hear like, you know, what's actually happening. Like, I just want to. I just want to hear it. I don't want to hear no music right now.
[00:13:13] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:13:14] Speaker A: You talking about love is the new gangster, right? And I feel like, where are you coming from with that? Like, what perspective is that? What lens is that?
[00:13:22] Speaker C: To me, like, gangsta was always synonymous to like, cool growing up. So, like normally or just regularly, like when I was growing up, the shit that I saw and thought was gangsta was all the shit that we know later on in life is not really that gangster. So, you know, now I know, you know, taking care of my kids, having hard conversations, taking care of myself, showing up for myself.
Like, those are the things that are gangster to me. And this is really just like my moment of saying, like, it's cool to have love at the center of what you do. And I just get like the most inspired when I'm talking about the shit in my life that makes me feel good. So I think it's just a nice full circle moment, especially coming from free black to where everything felt monochromatic and like suppressed and compressed and like lo fi and, you know, just everything felt like problems and ex calling. And now I'm at the part where it's just. It's the opposite now.
[00:14:16] Speaker A: Your last project, was it like three years ago?
[00:14:19] Speaker C: Yeah, three years.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: You said having tough conversations in the last three years. What's the toughest conversation you ever had to have?
[00:14:27] Speaker C: Xing out a lot of friends that I thought were for me but weren't really, like the right Type of grown man friends that I need to have. Like, if you see me and we are in a club or we in a space to where I'm fucking compromised, it's too much going on around me.
Somebody done snuck their way in here. I didn't have too much to drink. Don't go with the flow just because it's fun. Or we here, like, be the nigga that's gonna be like, hey, we need to bounce, or you need to stop, or that don't look good. Or, like, I need folks that's gonna hold me accountable in every sense. So even if it's not that scenario, like, if it's just in regular life, if you see me slipping, if you see me tripping in any way, feel like you could check me, like, that's. Those are the types of friends that I want to have. So I had to have a lot of those combos. A lot of the folks that I knew for, you know, 10 plus years fell off in the last couple of years. And that was just because I went to everybody individually and was like, here's the situation that I'm thinking about.
This is what I don't appreciate about it. This is what I could have done better. And moving forward, like, I only want, like, this type of energy, like, around me. And mostly everybody understood, but I think also naturally, even though they said they understood, we just kind of grew apart after that. And that was just.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: That's real.
[00:15:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: What about in your relationship? Have you had. Have you had one of those?
[00:15:44] Speaker C: Oh, hell yeah.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: What's the. What's one that stand out to you?
[00:15:48] Speaker C: I think my biggest thing, like, in the past was if I am, like, harboring any old shit, whether it be trauma, past relationships, fatherhood, shit that I'm, like, fucked up about, like, if I'm harboring anything, I would always keep it to myself. And my partner can pick up on shit, like, easy. So for her to have to, like, lay everything out for me and just tell me about myself, I think was the most difficult part. Because your ego just want to be like, I'm good or I'm straight, or I'm gonna figure it out, or it's not that big of a deal. But when somebody could say, you look crazy, I'm not fucking with you, you don't look good to me anymore. Like, when they can, like, really tell you, like, in this moment right now, you're not your best self and I'm about to bounce. I think for me, it was hard to, like, to come to terms with it. Because first you just kind of have like a.
You just want to deflect or like, say anything other than, like, what the actual issue is. And it took years and years and years for me to finally be like, you know what? I am fucked up about missing out on my oldest child, like, her birth and being on the road and missing all her milestones and having to figure out the balance of being a father at a young age, but not being with the mom and how to set a boundary and not relapse and do like, old just weird shit just because you had a kid with somebody. Like, it took a minute for me to grow up past that point, and it took a minute for me to, like, let go of all that shit. Cause I really just wasn't talking about it.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: So what was the thing that got you over it?
[00:17:19] Speaker C: My partner just let me know she bout to bounce.
[00:17:22] Speaker A: Oh. Literally her saying, I'm out.
[00:17:24] Speaker C: Yeah. If she's saying, like, I'm not fucking with you, and this is it for me, unfortunately, that's normally what it takes for a nigga to, like, snap into it. And I just, like. I care so much about, like, myself and how I represent myself that it sucks to look back and see all the moments where it's just like, that's not me. That's not me. That's not me. So, you know, to. To let myself be misrepresented to the world, to my friends, to my partner, I think was just like, that shame. And that, like, realization was like, oh, nah, this like, if all my shit gets fucked up right now, like, I just want it to at least be on the tail end of me being who I'm supposed to be. Yeah. So I feel that.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Was it difficult for you to address the things that she wanted you to do differently?
[00:18:08] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I think in conversation it's easy to be like, I understand, I get it. But when you got decades of, like, learning something, like a specific way or doing something a specific way or expressing yourself a specific way, it's like muscle memory almost. And it's like you. It literally feels like a resistance happening when you. For me, like, one of my things is if I'm thinking of a conversation or thinking of something that we need to talk about, I'm in my brain for about two, three weeks. Like, today is not the right day. Let me figure out, like, how I could say it nicer. Let me figure out, like, we having too much fun right now. Let me just. Da, da, da. And I will, like, prolong it and prolong it. And prolong it until she says something about it, and then it's like, too late. So, yeah, that was, like, one of my main things, where it just kept being repetitive to where it's like, I definitely understand the concept of opening my fucking mouth and just saying what's on my mind. But I have gone through a great portion of my life not having to do that at all. Like, it was always just on me. And it wasn't, you know, expressing yourself to your mom or talking to your dad or talking to your friends. It was like, it's just always been internal. So to make it to a point where you share a life with somebody is realizing, like, it can't just be happening in here. And in here it's like, you gotta get it out. Cause otherwise she picks up. She ain't fucking with it. Ruins the whole vibe. And yeah, you have two kids. Yeah, two.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Being that you missed those milestones in your first child's life, does that affect the way you parent with the new kid?
[00:19:33] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. I'm there every day. The way my schedule is right now, too. It made it so, like, I finished this album at the perfect time.
She's nine months right now. I've been able to see, like, her progression every single day.
And it's like being a dad for the first time, because I just didn't really realize how much I missed out on. It's like you show up and, you know, you have a good time with your kid, but to really be there every day is just a completely different thing. So I'm there as much as I can be there.
I feel just amazing about being a dad right now.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: What stage of your life does love is the new gangster represent for you?
[00:20:10] Speaker C: Just, like, resetting. I feel like the fires and everything, like, happening in la, like, it was all happening all at the same time. Like, when my relationship was just at the peak of needing to be fixed. It was also in the moment where you find out you're having a baby. It was also in the moment when the fires happen and her family's house gets burned down. It was like everything happened at the same time. So for me, it was just like, this is a reset. Like, this is starting from scratch. This is like, promising myself. Like, I'm not going back to any old, like, habits that I just. That don't serve me anymore.
[00:20:44] Speaker A: Is there something to. Cause I know you had a kid before, but I didn't know how old you were at that time. When you have a kid, there's a thing that we talk about on the radio, where the guy. It's always a debate, does a guy always have access to the baby mama type shit? Right.
How do you handle those types of deals where people might put that on you, I might put that in her head, or stuff like that? How do you handle that?
[00:21:09] Speaker C: Honestly, I didn't.
I really didn't. Like, during that time, I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. I didn't know how the fuck to do it. Like I said, I was trying to, like, set boundaries, but also, like, this was. At one point, this was all that I knew. So it's like, even coming out of a situation, it's just like, if something isn't feeling good or if the day isn't right, or if the situation presents itself, you just kind of fall back to fall to go back. Yeah. And for me, it was just like asking myself simple questions, like, do you want to spend the rest of your life with this person? If the answer is no, don't fuck around. Don't do nothing that's going to jeopardize your own individual life, her life, the people to come after that. Just lock in on yourself right now. You don't need nothing else but yourself to provide, to be a good person. That's it. So I understood. But it was still a process to finally get out of that stage where, you know, it's just like. You just. It's just a lot of anger, a lot of frustration. A lot of resentment, too, from her end, too. Cause it's just like, at the same time that she's pregnant and having a baby, life is changing, like, rapidly for both of us. So it's just like, oh, shit. You don't get to be a part of something that you thought you were gonna be a part of.
And I'm finally waking up to, like, whatever the situation has been the whole entire time, but I still have to step up to the plate and do the right thing. And ultimately, like, we figured it out, and it's exactly where it's supposed to be right now.
[00:22:32] Speaker A: On the song Wifey Baby Mama is. That's based in the truth. That's a true story.
[00:22:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: Got you. That's where I was pulling from.
[00:22:39] Speaker C: Yeah. That's one of my favorite songs on the project. It's not like, you know, one of the singles or whatever, but it's a great record.
It was just taking, like, the term baby mama and putting a little spin on it. Cause normally it got like a negative connotation to it to where I'm just like, ain't nothing wrong with being a baby mama. It's just. It's more about, like, who you have kids with and whatever agreement y' all have and however y' all want to live y' all lives. But wifey, baby mama was just me talking about the. Basically the story of, like, having somebody who is wifey or who you want to wife, but, you know, you had a kid first. And before we can, like, feel like we need to do anything because of fucking, you know, traditional standards or legal standards or rings or weddings, it's like, before we can hop to anything, like, let's just take care of what we supposed to take care of, which is me showing up and proving to you that I'm even worthy of making it there. So even though we had a kid, there's still a process, and I want to make sure, like, I take care of everything on the way to getting married, versus just saying, because we got a kid, let's get married.
[00:23:37] Speaker A: Are you engaged?
[00:23:38] Speaker C: No. Not engaged. Okay.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: Do you think that people over romanticize the process of falling in love and having a family and getting married? That's an argument I have a lot.
[00:23:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. I think that's what was wrong with my first situation and, like, all respect to her, too. But I think we were in different places to where she had an idea of what she wanted, and that was like, a family and something. And for me, I was really just figuring out my life, and we just so happened to be sharing space at that time. And I was like. Like, I would make sure that I was communicating it, too. But I think that was my biggest lesson during that time is I could say exactly what I felt in that moment, but I wasn't really, like, standing on it the way I needed to stand on it. And that was also because of my situation where I ain't. I ain't really got nowhere else I could go. I ain't got that many options on what I could do. And we both are just kind of, like, playing with this relationship because we have time and we have space, so.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: Well, this album is really good. This is a great listen. 10 out of 10. Highly recommended. I guess it's different.
[00:24:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:40] Speaker B: Can you tell us, like, how did that song even come about?
[00:24:43] Speaker C: I guess me, Childish. Major Treylander.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: Shout out to Childish Man.
[00:24:48] Speaker C: Childish Man Outskirts.
We were, like, towards the end of the project, and I'm like, even when I'm done or I feel like I'm done and everybody else is, like, hype about me being Done. There's always something in the back of my mind where I'm just like, I could make another one. I could do another. Or something's missing. And that was just the something's missing moment. I feel like the project has a good amount of live instrumentation and a good amount of just vibes in general, but I'm like, we need to up. We need some energy, and we need that energy to not, like, not be. It ain't got to be trapped out.
It just. It just. It need to be a little bit left of what people might expect. And Childish had already, like, started the demo for the song, and the rest was history. The second that I heard the beat and heard what they had already, I'm like, yeah, that's it right there. That's exactly what we missing. Let's drop it in there. I cut it.
And maybe like, the next day I randomly woke up and I was like, I think I need Fable on the ad libs. And everybody was like, fable?
I'm like, yeah, I need Fabo on the Ad Libs. Just to give it, like, a little. A little more kick in certain moments. And, yeah, I sent it to Fabo. He did some ad libs. And, yeah, that's how. I guess.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: How did you get Chike to rap like that on all that Matters? You got him to open up. That's a different version of Chike Facts.
[00:26:05] Speaker C: I love Chike, man. I feel like his clarity when he raps and, like, the way that he raps is just very, like, precise, and I appreciate what he brings to it. So I had already had the song for a minute, but as we were making a song, I was telling them, I don't have a song that sounds like I live in LA yet, and I would like to eventually, like, have that. And as we were, like, making a baseline for it, I'm like, okay, I think we might be in that realm. I did a verse, did the hook, and immediately I was just like, and he's Chike. I didn't think of nobody else. I didn't, like, literally first thought was Az. Chike sent it to him. And I think both of us, like, this is one of my favorite records that I've done. It's one of his favorite records that he's did, and I'm excited.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: Yeah, Chike's special.
[00:26:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I love Chike, bro. That's my dog.
[00:26:49] Speaker B: How did you end up on the Now? I'm just asking random fan questions because it's stuff that I wondered for a long time. I actually shuffled Your features on my phone. Not just the black songs. Like, literally just the features. And I'm hearing you got. You done made appearances on Wale Music, Snow, Allegra, Sid K Camp. You got boogie, boogie. That's one of my favorite ones. So I was thinking, I'm like, when he walk in the studio, it either have to be intimidating or inspiring because you're like, we was actually talking about it before you walked in. You damn near like the singing Wale, like, you the person that they add to the song. It's like you're the finishing touches.
[00:27:30] Speaker C: I appreciate that.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: That's how I look at it.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: Wale are definitely the same nigga on the record.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Y' all the same person.
[00:27:35] Speaker C: Hey, I love Wale. That's my daughter, too.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: Do you get complimented by other artists in that way? Like, you are what made the song complete?
[00:27:42] Speaker C: Yes. I don't talk about it too much, but I will say in the last few years, I've been able to look back at all the features that I've done and, like, the moments that came from those features, and I'm like, we did some, like, of course, special shit in our own realm, but we did a lot of shit for a lot of folks. And I feel like, really, like, good about just working with people who I'm cool with. And I think it just so happens that I, like, I have the most fun when I get to step in other folks world and, like, do my thing because it's. There's no pressure of, like, having to turn some shit in or, like, I ain't got to think it's already. It's already laid out for me. All I got to do is add the extra on top. So. I love doing feature records.
I feel like in the last five years, I've got to be one of the most featured artists in this year right now. Like, 100 plus. For sure.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: I was gonna ask you that, but let me just ask Chad Giparter.
[00:28:32] Speaker A: She brought up your features.
The one in particular that actually our producer. Well, actually, let me ask you about East Atlanta first with Future.
Did you already. Cause did y' all come up together?
Not come up together, but did y' all know each other prior to you being in music?
[00:28:48] Speaker C: Nope.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: Okay. Bet.
[00:28:49] Speaker C: No, not at all.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: So that was just like, some music shit.
[00:28:51] Speaker C: Yep. That was. I mean, like, I knew, of course, like, being in Atlanta, you know, about Future.
And I'm pretty sure, you know, at some point when I was coming up, he heard about me. Cause by the time I had the record and sent him the record. That was the easiest, like, exchange ever. It was. Send the record.
It's done.
I'm not charging you. That's it.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: Word.
[00:29:10] Speaker C: That's it.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: That's what's up.
[00:29:12] Speaker C: Just get my PJ when I come to the video shoot.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:16] Speaker C: But at that point, I was like, you know what? I'm like, you know what?
[00:29:19] Speaker A: He not charging us. Fuck it.
[00:29:20] Speaker C: I'm like, I can roll with that. I can roll with that. So I wasn't tripping at all. And Future is, you know, he wanted to go in Atlanta, so I'm.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: Speaking of which, the state of Atlanta right now is crazy. Okay. I know you. You a LA resident, right?
Do you have any thoughts on the trajectory of your city as far as. From a music standpoint? We don't do street shit, but from the.
[00:29:40] Speaker C: From the musical standpoint, Atlanta gonna be all right forever. Forever, Forever. There's always something buzzing. There's always new artists to lock into.
And I think it's good for things to be exactly where they are right now. Like, every three to five years, there's a reset happening. I feel like it's regional. It's not even just in Atlanta. Like, it just has to start over. It has to start from scratch. New people have to emerge. And the folks who are on top or in the mix right now, they either have to check themselves and, like, just sharpen whatever they got going on, clean it up or get left behind.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: When do you think the start of that was? Because I know Thug is on your album, but when do you think that start of the reset happened?
[00:30:18] Speaker B: Two chains on there.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Because this is something we argued about in a group chat.
[00:30:22] Speaker C: Start of the reset.
I feel like it's been about.
Somewhere around the pandemic, shit got weird, okay? And I think a lot of what was popular as far as just, like, what folks talk about, what people brag about, it just started to hit less. It was just like, we fighting for our lives out here right now. Like, ain't nobody trying to, you know, flex right now.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: I told the homie that, like, you talking about the ghosts and, like, n. Trying to pay their bills or ain't
[00:30:50] Speaker C: nobody really trying to hear too much about robbing and killing. Like, in this moment right now, like, folks are really dealing with real life shit. So it naturally. I think it just switched around that time. So after the pandemic, I feel like it started to change a little bit. And in the last two or three years, I think it's just been, like, living in a reset moment.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: But y' all niggas never shut down, though.
[00:31:08] Speaker C: No, keep it a buck.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Like, y' all was swag surfing all through the pandemic.
[00:31:11] Speaker C: Yeah, Atlanta was.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:31:14] Speaker C: Atlanta was good. You go catch it. Go to the crib for about a week. Come back outside next week.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: You said go catch it. You know, go catch it and go back outside. It's crazy.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: All right, real quick, how many features you think you did in your whole career?
[00:31:28] Speaker A: Oh, she got a number.
[00:31:29] Speaker C: I mean, I know it's 100 plus.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:31:33] Speaker C: What they talking about? They don't know. Who, you think I need to teach them?
[00:31:36] Speaker A: Him, I would say.
I'm not gonna do 100 plus. I'm gonna say 67.
[00:31:42] Speaker B: All right, Chad, Jumpiter got it wrong.
[00:31:44] Speaker C: What'd they say?
[00:31:46] Speaker B: It says 50 to 70 plus 67.
Well, don't start that old TikTok shit.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: I won. I won the right price without going over. Nigga, I won.
[00:32:00] Speaker C: How do you win if they wrong?
[00:32:01] Speaker A: Okay, well, Chad jumped. I think it's wrong is I don't like fucking with niggas like him because he'll go pull up his. His EMI or something. He in his asscap account right now. Looking at his.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: If he said 100 plus, I'm gonna have to go with that.
[00:32:14] Speaker A: All right, this is interesting. If he says 100 plus, then that's what it is.
[00:32:17] Speaker C: I feel like a good start would be on the featuring Black playlist on Spotify. Yeah, that's a good start, cuz. Not everything is on that list, but that list has a majority of it.
[00:32:28] Speaker B: Okay. Okay.
[00:32:29] Speaker C: So if you go on there, I'm. I'm assuming it's at least 70, 80 something on that list. Damn.
[00:32:34] Speaker B: How did you end up on Snow, Allegra? The remix. I want you around.
[00:32:39] Speaker C: I was in Sweden. I heard Snow for the first time. Obviously was a fan. Reached out on Instagram. It was mutual love. And she had just dropped I want you around, like, not too long before then. So she immediately was just like, you want to get on this remix? And I was like, hell, yeah. What? Hell yeah.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:32:59] Speaker C: And that's crazy.
[00:33:00] Speaker A: You know that's not normal, right?
I'm. Listen, bro, fuck all that. I'm stoic, too.
[00:33:05] Speaker C: I'm just out here.
No, but honestly, though, that's one. It's only been a few songs like that to where, like, when somebody gives me the grace to do something to it, I almost am like, oh, shit. Like, yeah, it's a perfect song. Like, without me, it's A perfect song. So now I gotta. It's one of the moments where it's like, if I don't get this shit absolutely right, I'm just not gonna do it.
So I was a little intimidated by the song because it's just a great song and I got it done. She liked it, we put it out, and that was it.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: That has to be, though, like a mixtape dream. If you can just reach out. Imagine hearing a song, you like the instrument, you want to rap on it, and then you can hit the artist and say, I like this. And, you know, and then you're able to feature on the remix. Has there been any other song that you, like, wished was yours?
You like I smoke this beat?
[00:33:53] Speaker C: Oh, yes.
There was a song that her made. I can't remember the name of it right now, but it's a.
It was a. It was a feature that I started on for her. H E R. You know, the rl. Yeah. That I did for her. But I just don't feel like I got it down the right way and it came out with somebody else on it, and I was just like, I got to charge that to the game. It was a great song. I wish I was on it. I wish it was my song, too. But, yeah, it was just one of the moments where it just. It didn't click for me, and I'm just like. I got to. I got to pass.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: Have you given other records away that we know of?
[00:34:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I did a record for Janae some years back, and it was on a deluxe for, like, one of her albums. I can't remember what album it was, but it was called Clear My Mind. Clear My Mind, and it was just, like, a demo that I had that she ended up just taking and doing her thing with. I mean, I had another song, too, that she wanted, but I didn't let it go. And I feel a little bad about that.
[00:34:53] Speaker B: Was Still Dreaming created during the Dreamville sessions?
[00:34:56] Speaker C: Hell, yeah.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: How were those sessions?
[00:34:57] Speaker C: Dreamville sessions are. Well, I mean, to me, Dreamville sessions during that time were just Spillage Village sessions. So it wasn't no different than just me meeting up with Jid, with Mareeba, with everybody else. Olux. Yeah. And just, like, cooking up. So it felt just like how it felt when we were coming up. Cause when I was first coming up, 2015, 2014, I was staying on Jed's couch, like, cooking while he was out delivering pieces.
So it was just linking up with the homies and making shit from scratch. That's it.
[00:35:28] Speaker A: What about the, like, it record with you and Summer Walker. Like, I know the girls are in love with Summer Walker.
[00:35:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: Any other collabs with her that you have coming down the pipeline?
[00:35:38] Speaker C: We got some unreleased ones, but I always want to work with Summer. Summer is, you know, one on one right now, especially, like, in R B, but in Atlanta, too. Like, she is a gift, and I'm happy that we got Summer, so I'm always down to make more of a Summer. But I think it's just. It's funny because we same label, same, you know, same situation, so folks just expect us to have a mixtape or something. Yeah, but I mean, we. We are both two very peculiar.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: I can see that, people.
She might like Milk. You might not fuck with her.
[00:36:08] Speaker C: So to align. Yeah.
Summer was on tour with me, too.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: Like, from here with A Glass of Milk.
[00:36:14] Speaker C: Yeah. Summer was on tour with me for my second album, too. So that was also, like, a time where we were getting to know each other, too.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: And again, like, I love Summer to death, but we're two different folks.
[00:36:23] Speaker A: I feel that.
[00:36:23] Speaker C: So, yeah, we just gotta.
[00:36:25] Speaker B: Have you work with Domani yet?
[00:36:26] Speaker C: No, but I see Domanee all the time. Yeah. All right.
[00:36:29] Speaker B: If I could just, like, Just because y' all do a good job of talking to us.
So if I could just get, like, a Domani K Camp Black.
[00:36:37] Speaker C: Okay. I'll reach out to Damani after I leave.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: That sounds amazing.
[00:36:39] Speaker C: I'll reach out.
[00:36:40] Speaker B: That sounds amazing.
[00:36:41] Speaker C: Damn.
[00:36:41] Speaker A: You just request like that. Shit. I got a request.
[00:36:45] Speaker C: Just tell me, man. Look, man.
[00:36:46] Speaker A: Okay, now I got two more things for you. Black.
Five time. Am I correct? Five time Grammy nominee? Yep.
This project obviously is important to you. It's very personal. Do you want the Grammy? Because a lot of people try to play coy and be like, nah, it's an honor being nominated. Pusha T came up here. He sitting in his chair. He was like, nah, I want my Grammy.
[00:37:06] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, it ain't gonna hurt my feelings, but I definitely want, like, you know, like, if.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: Is that something that's important to you?
[00:37:12] Speaker C: Yes. Like, not in a sense to where it makes or break, you know, what I do or how I create or anything like that. But what's the point of, like, making cool if you can't go and celebrate yourself? So, you know, regardless of who's putting on the event, whether it's BET Awards or VMAs or Grammys or anything, like, if there's a moment to celebrate us as artists, like, I'm down. And if I'm getting Recognized. Hell, yeah.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: So talk that shit.
The other thing is for you as an artist. Is there somebody that.
Like how you slid in the snow Allegra DM and got that? Is there somebody that surprised you, that was tapped into you, that was like, oh, shit, I didn't even know you, like, fuck with me.
[00:37:50] Speaker C: Yeah, that list is long. I'm trying to think.
Janet Jackson.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: Janet Jackson.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: Janet Jackson.
[00:37:55] Speaker A: She DMed you?
[00:37:56] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: Get the fuck out of here.
[00:37:57] Speaker C: Yes, sir. Let me see the Jenny.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: Jack, that's great.
There's no way. Let me tell you something, Black.
[00:38:03] Speaker B: Let me see the DM is crazy.
Let me see. The DM is crazy.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Hey, bro, I know. You know what? I don't need to see dm. That's why I leave.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: He was really about to shut up.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: I interviewed Janet Jackson one time in my life, and she walked in the room and I couldn't see her feet. She was just floating like this. I'm not even making this shit up.
[00:38:21] Speaker C: I don't even know.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: She floated in the room. It's like, how's everyone doing? She sat down and I was just like, I don't even know.
[00:38:26] Speaker C: Yeah, where do we go from here?
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Exactly. So I want to know about this interaction.
[00:38:31] Speaker C: No, she reached out and she was just like, I'm a big fan of what you're doing. And I was just like.
I mean, I would say the same thing, but that's just fucking obvious.
I was like, yeah. I was like, it goes without saying, like, crazy. And we just, you know, had a little moment of showing some love to each other, and I was just like, if you ever need anything, let me know.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: If Janet ever need anything.
[00:38:49] Speaker C: If I could ever do anything for you, you never know who the fuck
[00:38:52] Speaker A: you think you should.
[00:38:53] Speaker B: You better than me. I would have remixed.
[00:38:54] Speaker C: Would you?
[00:38:55] Speaker A: Hey, you better be opposite or open verse.
[00:38:59] Speaker C: I be trying not to blow it. That'll it up right there. I know.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: Center. Just send her an MP3 with an open 16 on it.
[00:39:05] Speaker C: No, no, you gotta lead with just the convo. And, like, that's the way it was, like, for a lot of the features that I had were folks like. Like Cole, like, on Pretty Little Fears. Yeah, I didn't ask them to get on Pretty Little Fears. I just played it for him. And I played him a bunch of songs. And when he heard Pretty Little Fears, he was like, send me that. I was like, I ain't. This was what I was trying to do without having to literally be like, can you get on this song? So he heard it. He Heard it. He loved it. He asked.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: So it was. So was the song finished?
[00:39:31] Speaker C: The song was. Yeah, it was finished. It had two verses on it.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:39:34] Speaker C: And I took my verse off and let him do a 32 or 48. Whatever.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: He rapped forever.
[00:39:41] Speaker C: Whatever he did. When I got it back, I was like, that's. That's fine.
[00:39:44] Speaker B: Did you change anything on your verse?
[00:39:46] Speaker C: No. Absolutely nothing like that. No. I think the cool thing about, like, existing in the rap and R B space is that sometimes, like, I'm. I'm not really trying to out rap niggas. So it's like if I'm just trying to set the vibe and he takes it away. That's great. We just had a moment like that on one of the songs on the album. I ain't gonna get too specific into the details, but somebody wanted to change something, and I just had to be like, bro. No.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Like another rapper.
[00:40:09] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm just like. I'm not like, we good, brother. Yeah, we're straight. Like, it's fine how it is. I'm not overly rapping on this song. You set the vibe perfectly. Let's keep it the same way.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: That's why I said you gotta be intimidating to see you walking in the studio. Cause you already got this, like, calm voice.
[00:40:27] Speaker C: Amen.
[00:40:27] Speaker B: And then you have one of those voices where it don't matter what you say on the song. It's just gonna sound cool. Like, whatever. That's why I said, like a wale adomany kay camp. Like, y' all have this skill where it doesn't matter what you say. You could go on that motherfucking say milk, eggs and bacon.
[00:40:44] Speaker C: Hey, listen, I'm trying to stay in that space. I feel that way about folks like Don Tolliver.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He got one of those voices.
[00:40:51] Speaker C: Whatever his vocal chain is. It sound like if anybody hops on that computer and just says they favorite words, it's gonna slap. Like, the production is beautiful. His delivery is crazy and it's not easily duplicated. Yeah, nah. Don is one of one.
[00:41:04] Speaker B: Y' all are one of ones to where nobody can duplicate your sound, your
[00:41:08] Speaker A: style, or anything we gonna have. I wanna get to the cars. But my last question for you are mild manner. Like, she's saying, when's the last time you lost your. And do you have road rage?
[00:41:20] Speaker C: Last time I lost my.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Yeah, cuz. There's no black crash outs online. I look.
[00:41:27] Speaker C: Yeah, no, definitely no.
No crash outs online, cuz I'm like this.
[00:41:32] Speaker A: Don't never lose his temper.
[00:41:33] Speaker B: He don't you ain't clap back in the contest.
[00:41:35] Speaker C: I mean, for sure. Like, that's for sure. But they already, like, understand. Like, I. I said that, like, super early on. I was like, if you say some stupid shit and I see it, like, I'm gonna say something back and it ain't. We not about to get into a whole beef or nothing like that. I'm gonna say what I wanna say, and then I'm gonna leave it at that.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Yeah, you dissed the nigga on your own album in 2018. But I'm.
[00:41:53] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. I made a song about a tweet at one point, and he was. He. He felt so. So rewarded. He was like, oh, you made a whole song.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: I'm like, that's all they want.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: You said his act.
[00:42:01] Speaker C: Nah, I was just like, you got some nerd tweeting from your mama house. You got some nerd tweeting from your mama couch. And that was like the chorus and that song, like, for whatever reason, translated perfectly well all the way over to Australia. It was like my biggest record in Australia for a second. It was called that far. And that. That whole moment was based on a tweet that somebody sent. I can't even remember what he said at this point anymore. But when I saw it, I was just like, bro, how you gonna tell a nigga who's doing it how to do it?
[00:42:26] Speaker A: Hey, man, listen, but is there any. Is there any time, you know, do
[00:42:30] Speaker C: you remember the last time, my last crash out. I can't pinpoint the specific moment or combo, but I know the feeling of,
[00:42:37] Speaker A: do you remember when it was?
[00:42:38] Speaker C: I mean, it would only be in respect to my relationship.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:42:42] Speaker C: So, again, so I can't. I can't remember a specific combo right now, but it would have to be in a moment where she's saying, I already told you this, and I'm here telling you again, and you saying, you understand again.
So why the fuck would I believe that?
[00:42:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:56] Speaker C: And me just in that moment, being overwhelmed with, like, my back is against the wall. I gotta. I gotta make it sound good, look
[00:43:03] Speaker A: good,
[00:43:05] Speaker C: you know, you gotta add a
[00:43:06] Speaker A: little extra sound good. Crazy is that.
[00:43:08] Speaker C: Please believe me, that. That part right there to where you just like, I gotta figure out a way to. To get it out. And sometimes the only way you can figure it out is by just being a little. A little loud, a little vocal.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: They wanna. They want you. You know, they want you to emote, bro.
[00:43:21] Speaker C: Yeah, so that's. That's the thing too. I'm I'm super chill. My girl be calling that out. She like, I can't tell.
[00:43:27] Speaker B: What's your time?
[00:43:28] Speaker C: Cancer.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: I don't know nothing about cancer.
[00:43:31] Speaker C: From what I hear about cancer, this is pretty much. It's in that realm where it's like we either are over emotional and, like, too expressive or very, like, in the shell.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: You in July cancer.
[00:43:41] Speaker C: I'm June Cancer. Like, end of June 24th.
[00:43:43] Speaker B: You was almost a Gemini.
[00:43:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:46] Speaker B: I got some questions from Twitter. So I asked Twitter, what should I ask you?
[00:43:50] Speaker C: These niggas, they fuck with you.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: You know they fuck with you? Nothing disrespectful. The yak guy said, can we get more songs from him and Janae?
And also can we get the Black and J I D project?
[00:44:05] Speaker C: I would love to do more songs with Janae.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Where is that project at?
[00:44:08] Speaker C: Hey, man, that ain't on me no more. That's on her.
[00:44:11] Speaker A: All right.
[00:44:11] Speaker C: That's on her.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: Lightsplease said, ask him about the VSU cyphers. It's a rare question he's ever asked about.
[00:44:21] Speaker C: Yeah, Badass estate. I went to college for a year while I was down there.
This dude named Blue used to shoot these cypher videos. And during that time, like, when Twitter was still pure, it was, like, the perfect place to make a video, put it on YouTube, post it on Twitter, and then have, like, just real time conversations as everybody's watching it. So they would gather, like, six to eight rappers from campus and put them in a cipher, and we would all just rap, post it, and get on Twitter and live tweet while people were watching it. And those were like, those were the coolest moments in my college because right after that, I was like, I'm dropping out. So it was. I did it for a year. The most fun part about being at school for me was rapping, so my priorities was a little backwards.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: What was your major?
[00:45:03] Speaker C: Computer science.
Yeah, only because they make a bunch of money and because I'm good on computer. So I was just, like, trying to do what my mom is, like, suggesting, but that shit, boring.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: That's the best thing about Millennials, how tech savvy we are.
[00:45:16] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. It's cool as a hobby, but being in a class where you just hear it. Yeah. I was like, nah, I can't do this shit.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: I took a webpage design class.
[00:45:24] Speaker C: That too. Yep.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: Struggled.
Supa2124 said, ask how it felt when the Les Twins was killing the choreography
[00:45:34] Speaker C: to his songs they made.
I want to say it was free off of my first album, they made that song there. Like, I saw multiple videos of them teaching it in classes, performing it on, like, TV shows, dance contests, like.
But yeah, seeing that was cool. Like, obviously, to be able to be anything adjacent to Beyonce is.
You feel me?
[00:45:56] Speaker A: We got time for a couple cards. We gotta wrap.
[00:45:59] Speaker B: Oh, we are. Okay. All right.
[00:46:00] Speaker C: We gotta rap. We gotta rap.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: Whichever ones you wanna skip.
[00:46:05] Speaker A: Tell em.
[00:46:07] Speaker B: So I have a card game called Hofessions.
[00:46:09] Speaker C: Ah, shit.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: Where I get in the rapper's business.
[00:46:11] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:46:11] Speaker B: So if it's a card you want to skip, you can make head. Answer the question or her.
[00:46:16] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: And then. Well, I know all the answers.
And then the water, that's your shot. Like, if it say take a shot.
[00:46:25] Speaker C: Okay, let me get it ready.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Take a shot of water.
[00:46:26] Speaker C: Let me get it ready.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: All right, so read it out loud. And then.
[00:46:31] Speaker C: So pick a card.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: Just flip. Yeah, pick one and.
[00:46:34] Speaker C: Cause you had that one on top. I don't trust that. I don't trust it.
Nope. Okay.
Who was little Meech helping with their groceries?
Hey, man, it was his cousin. Right?
[00:46:50] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:46:50] Speaker C: His sister. Right. That's what he said.
[00:46:52] Speaker A: Right.
[00:46:53] Speaker B: She had too much ass to be anybody's sister.
[00:46:56] Speaker C: Yeah, I pleaded fifth on that one.
Shout out to Summer, though.
Let me see. So all of these, just run through them?
[00:47:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:04] Speaker C: Okay.
What time was genuine Home Alone?
Nine o'. Clock.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:47:13] Speaker C: Name three side piece songs or take a shot. Oh, three side piece songs. See, I don't even really, like, entertain side piece songs because that ain't even my life. That's not even my genre. I'm a good man.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: This just got saved.
Talking about. All right, go ahead. Next one.
[00:47:37] Speaker C: No, nothing about no side pieces.
Okay, Sorry.
What? Did Jody leave any vet's car? You know, I don't know.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: Okay, don't tell us in the comments.
[00:47:51] Speaker C: What did Jody Lee in the car?
[00:47:54] Speaker A: A condom.
[00:47:56] Speaker C: Can you verify that?
[00:47:57] Speaker B: It was a box of two.
One was missing.
[00:48:00] Speaker A: One was missing, yeah.
[00:48:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:48:02] Speaker B: Go ahead, Trojan. Very sensitive. America's number one condom.
[00:48:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I watched Baby Boy.
[00:48:06] Speaker B: She went all out.
[00:48:07] Speaker C: I watched it a couple times, but I ain't like a Baby Boy enthusiast or nothing like that.
Okay. Your friend is about to die, and the only way for them to survive is if your wife or husband performs oral sex on them in front of you. Will your friend live? No, they fucking did.
They're dead. That's crazy. Hell no. It could be best friend, too. You gone name all of the women. DMX mentioning what these bitches want. That's for you.
[00:48:35] Speaker B: I don't know all of them except
[00:48:37] Speaker A: for Brenda, Leticia, Linda, Felicia, Don, lashawn, Inez, and Delisha.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: Monica, Stacy, Teresa, Monica, about three Kims.
[00:48:48] Speaker C: Latoya, Gina's all good.
[00:48:51] Speaker B: Who you meet in the ice cream parlor?
[00:48:52] Speaker A: Tanya.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: All day in Charlotte.
[00:48:57] Speaker A: No, that ain't even right, either. That's crazy. Anyway, listen, man, thank you for coming through. Black. We appreciate you coming to hang out with us. You know what I'm saying? Love is apparently the new gangster I'm working on. My gangster.
[00:49:07] Speaker C: Yes, sir.
[00:49:08] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Get it right. Hopefully you come back again and be stoic with us.
[00:49:11] Speaker C: Let's do it.
Let's fucking do it.
[00:49:15] Speaker A: We appreciate you. All right, it's black here. It's effective immediately. Immediately.
