Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, world? It's your favorite homegirl, Gina. Views.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: All right. Special guest in the studio. I've been waiting for this for a long time. The living legend himself, man. Super legend, OG great person, I will say, if I do say so myself. Always looking out. Akon, what's going on, Daddy O, man, thank you so much for being here. I want to start this off like I have done previously in many occasions is I want to give you your flowers because you changed my life. And you probably didn't even know that you did that. Wow. That's what's up. So in a way that you changed my life. No, you good. In a way that you changed my life.
So my big homie, you know, is Glasses Malone.
[00:00:42] Speaker C: That's my dog right there.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: We were in the streets, hustling, whatever. Legally, hustling is always legal. Just.
And we were doing our thing and, you know, shout out to DJ Toont.
Toomp blessed us, you know what I'm saying? And Toomp is one of the godfathers, one of the founders of trap music.
And Toomp blessed us with a beat, and it was crazy menacing. And the story goes, man, somebody made a call and shout to Mike Lynn and that whole thing. But Khan pulled up by himself, came to the studio, laced his hook, and we became the biggest thing on the West Coast. And it was because of a man named Akon.
[00:01:23] Speaker C: Nah, y'all was already big, bro.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: It wasn't the same thing. And you know what I'm saying, just me personally, that changed my life specifically because we end up going on tours and, like, experiencing the world. You took us out, you know what I'm saying? I got to do shows, arenas, and shit I had never seen before. That shit I never saw before.
[00:01:41] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: You know what I mean? And all from a song called Certified. And you came to Watts, shot the video. No security, like, not flexing that. I'm just saying you did that, and I just wanted to give you appreciation for that. I don't think I ever had a chance to tell you face to face about that.
[00:01:55] Speaker C: That's what's up, man. That means a lot.
[00:01:56] Speaker A: But I appreciate that, being a real nigga, you know what I'm saying?
I guess my first question would be like, where does that come from? Where do you get that heart or that generosity to do stuff like that, especially for up and comers? Cause you have a long history of dealing with up and coming artists in that way.
[00:02:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, as you know, I probably built My career off helping others build theirs, you know what I'm saying? I think it all probably stems from when I was trying to come up myself, you know, straight refugee.
You know, America was a little bit tough for me because I was trying to fit in at the same time. But it was just a little different because, you know, coming in from an area of no, you know, like, not really being recognized, and you come into a business where everybody has to know each other, where you actually get to a certain place because of who you know. I didn't really have that many people I knew, you know what I mean? And I think the idea of knowing that the struggle for me was real. When I see new artists, I have that sympathy. Especially when I see that they're grinding from an area where they started from nothing and they just need that extra little co sign or that extra little, you know, push, or just a little bit of a platform just to get they shit out there. I mean, it don't cost me nothing to do it. It takes no energy for me to lend a hand, you know what I'm saying? Or give someone my platform to expose themselves.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Yeah, but you've also given away hit records.
That does cost you.
[00:03:13] Speaker C: Well, it actually doesn't because it becomes a hit. I get paid too.
You know what I'm saying?
[00:03:17] Speaker A: You just don't get to be the person just delivering the hit.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: Right.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: But you still get the back end.
[00:03:22] Speaker C: I'll produce it, I write it. And oftentimes, in this case, tune produced it and I just wrote the chorus. But for the most part, the artist has to do the work.
You can give them the bone, but if they don't chew it down, swallow it, you can't make them eat it.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: I feel that I too wanna give you your flowers.
[00:03:38] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: This year will mark, what, 20 years since trouble was released.
[00:03:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: Congratulations.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: Yeah, man, we've been celebrating that, you know.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah, Y. That's dope.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: I had to have been like.
I had to have been like in elementary or something when he came out. And I remember the song being on the video, being on 106 and park.
[00:03:57] Speaker C: Right. Yep, that's.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: And I remember thinking like, oh, this man just got out of jail.
[00:04:02] Speaker C: And I actually.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: It got successful. Cause there's a narrative that you have had this overnight success. But I did some, you know, research. And. You're a producer first.
[00:04:13] Speaker C: Yeah, producer. Showwriter first.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: Yeah. How does it feel to look up 20 years later and man, to have still a hit like that in multiple hits.
[00:04:22] Speaker C: Right. I mean, it's Crazy for me, because it don't feel like 20 years went by. Like, honestly, I swear, it feel like maybe a few years. Couple years. Cause I just can't see 20 years passing me by, man.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: But you don't age.
[00:04:34] Speaker C: It didn't even feel like it.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: It's like 3N, bro. Who don't age. It's like, you be real. And like, one of the homies that nobody know, but, like, y'all don't age, bro. And I think I'm starting to think I need to start smoking weed or something. Like, it's always stopped me. You stopped.
[00:04:49] Speaker C: I never smoked.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: You never smoked, so be real. Looks like he never aged and he smoked all day, every day. Yeah, I guess.
[00:04:56] Speaker C: Gene.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Okay. All right.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: What kind of weed he smoking?
[00:04:59] Speaker C: Right?
[00:04:59] Speaker A: I don't know what he's smoking. Yeah.
[00:05:01] Speaker C: Cause normally it's interesting because we do sometimes make it seem or look older.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess. Different effects on different people.
[00:05:07] Speaker C: Your face get droopy quicker.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: It's in the eyes and the lips.
[00:05:10] Speaker C: Eyes and the lips.
[00:05:10] Speaker B: You can tell somebody that smokes.
[00:05:13] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: Do you have, like, a regiment? Like, do you eat clean?
[00:05:16] Speaker C: Like, man, I eat McDonald's. White cat.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: You eat McDonald's?
[00:05:19] Speaker C: What?
[00:05:20] Speaker B: Hell, no.
[00:05:21] Speaker C: Hell no. White cats. Favorite.
[00:05:24] Speaker A: Wait, what's your McDonald's order?
[00:05:26] Speaker C: Oh, the McChicken with cheese. Yes. 1,000%. You know what time it is?
[00:05:30] Speaker B: McChicken with cheese. And I put a little buffalo sauce.
[00:05:33] Speaker A: On top of it.
[00:05:33] Speaker C: Man, that would. McChicken with cheese.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: Y'all niggas are children.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: What drink?
[00:05:36] Speaker C: Huh? What drink you? I'm a Sprite. McDonald's.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: McDonald's Sprite.
[00:05:40] Speaker C: It's something about. They Sprite, ain't it?
[00:05:42] Speaker B: McDonald's.
[00:05:42] Speaker C: I'm telling you.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: McDonald's Sprite.
[00:05:44] Speaker C: I don't care. They put an extra little something in there.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: It's like you taking a shot of tequila.
[00:05:47] Speaker C: What?
[00:05:48] Speaker A: Yo, I don't drink McDonald's.
[00:05:52] Speaker C: But nobody on the spinach Sprite. Like, McDonald's.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: You can feel it in your throat.
[00:05:58] Speaker C: I'm telling you. Was a certain burn that come with that Sprite.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: So, like, just. You don't. So you eat whatever. It don't matter. You don't have.
[00:06:03] Speaker C: Nah, I eat whatever. One thing about. Okay, first of all, everybody's listening. Never take health tips from America. America's the most unhealthy place on the planet.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: That's gonna hurt a lot of fitness chicks.
[00:06:16] Speaker C: But it's true.
[00:06:16] Speaker A: The Instagram chicks. That's gonna hurt.
[00:06:19] Speaker C: It's the biggest case of obesity. Biggest case of heart disease. The food here is awful. But one thing I can tell you, no matter where you go in life, whatever you decide to eat, just stay active. The problem is people are eating and they ain't doing nothing. They sitting on their couch, they constantly in the car, they're constantly at work, they're not being physical. So what happens is your body just stores all that stuff and after a while, before you know it, it has nowhere else to go. So you just gain weight. And then before you know it, all the extraness, calm, diseases and all these other health malfunctions happen. But for the most part, as long as you stay active, you can eat whatever you want. Cause your body gonna burn it right down.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: So I don't know if that's true. God, you can eat whatever you want. I know somebody as active and big.
[00:06:56] Speaker C: As a motherfucker, he ain't that active, I promise you. And then rule number two, rule number two, at a certain age, I mean at a certain time every day, just stop eating.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: Oh, what time do you stop eating?
[00:07:08] Speaker C: See, I stopped eating at 8:30, 9:00.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: No matter what, no matter what, no matter how hungry you are, no matter.
[00:07:12] Speaker C: How hungry I AM at, at 8, 9:30, I don't put no food in my system. I just drink water or juices. Because what happens is then, what happens is now your body knows at 8:30, 9:00 every day, it knows when it can start to break itself down. Cause what happens is people eat at all kinds of night. Your body can be in a position where it's starting to digest it. And then you start eating and it has to stop, wait for you to eat. Then it has to wait to see if nothing else come in for hours before it start again. But before you know it, if you snacking all throughout the day and all throughout the night, your body never had time to digest it or break it down. But if you stop at a certain time every day, it's like clockwork. Your body just gets started immediately because it ain't no more food coming in. I'm like you, programming. So then you can eat whatever you want. Like right now, let's say how much time. Let's say you want to break £20. Let's say you wanted to drop £20 without going through.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: I do. I need to drop 30.
[00:07:57] Speaker C: All right, test this out. I promise you it's gonna work. £30, six months. At 8 o'clock, stop eating. Eat whatever you want during the day though. But at 8 o'clock, just stop eating. Don't eat nothing else till the following 8 o'clock in the morning. I promise you, without even going to the gym, you're gonna lose £30 in six months. I promise you.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Cause he be snacking.
[00:08:15] Speaker C: Yeah, he be snacking.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: Why you gotta. He didn't even ask you that.
[00:08:17] Speaker C: You look like you be snacking.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: You look like a nigga that snack.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: He look like a nigga that snack.
[00:08:24] Speaker A: I just be.
[00:08:25] Speaker C: But just try it. I promise you, bro, because now you're gonna allow your body to actually put the work in.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: Yeah, so I'm good. I can do it at all hours. So I'm trying to gain 30.
[00:08:33] Speaker C: You try to gain. Then you want to eat all hours of the day.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:36] Speaker C: You want to just. Yeah, you just want to eat whatever you see. Food. Just eat, snibble, snip, whatever.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:41] Speaker C: I'm on the right track.
Whatever you want.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Don't tell her that.
[00:08:46] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, she can get it in. She gonna gain about 20 pounds in six months, bro.
[00:08:49] Speaker A: So right now, musically, right? I think the last project we got was a couple years ago. No, I'm sorry, the. What was it? The last one. I forgot the name of it. It's escaping me. But you put out a body of work. Now, moving forward, are you. Cause I've noticed a lot of people that. They kind of, like, don't see the point of putting albums out.
[00:09:09] Speaker C: Right, right.
[00:09:09] Speaker A: Where are you at on that thought process?
[00:09:10] Speaker C: Oh, no, I mean, it's all about body work.
[00:09:12] Speaker A: Body work.
[00:09:12] Speaker C: Yeah. I did have a novelty album that I dropped during the COVID The pandemic.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:09:17] Speaker C: Pandemic. You know what I mean? So I think that's the one you're probably talking about.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:09:19] Speaker C: Yeah, but that was just for fans to have something to listen to while it was in super. Fans that just search me and see what's going on and see if there's anything out there new that they want to listen to. We just put it out there. We ain't market promote nothing. We just had it out there for the fans. But this is the next. This is the first official album since my last freedom album.
[00:09:35] Speaker A: Right.
[00:09:35] Speaker C: It's called Not Guilty. So we're gonna drop that in February. But Akon's Beautiful Day is the first single drop.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: Right. I saw the Beautiful Day. I thought it was a breath of fresh air because music is so depressing, man.
[00:09:45] Speaker C: It is, though.
[00:09:46] Speaker A: It just. I promise you it'd be whooping me, bro.
[00:09:47] Speaker C: Like, yeah, man, you. Man, you some. See, back then, I'm a dj. We Would turn to music to feel better.
[00:09:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:53] Speaker C: Now if you're depressed, you go to music, you're gonna be suicidal.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:56] Speaker C: You actually, you actually get worse.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: It might be messages in it, motherfuckers, man.
[00:10:00] Speaker C: It's a lot of messages. It's a lot of messages.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: You say something backwards, man.
[00:10:03] Speaker C: It's a lot of messages in it, man. Cause people don't realize how spiritual music is. Like music actually is the one instrument that everybody in the world can relate to without even speaking the same language. From a feeling or spiritual perspective. We all feel a certain way when music is actually being delivered to us, right? So if you like prime example, heavy metal used to do something to people and you notice all these, these you know what? Let me not do that because I don't want to stereotype heavy metal. But a lot of the. I'm picking up serial shooters, they were all heavy metal fans.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Put it that way, that shit satanic.
[00:10:34] Speaker C: You know for sure, you know what I'm saying? But then when you look at soul music and all the stuff we came up in this why we can't really be conflicted like group of people. Like we don't know how. We just, we over forgive to the point where we get, we get beat up by our own forgiveness. Like we constantly marching and doing peaceful things just so we don't go in that. Like we can't. We got too much love in us, you know what I'm saying? So we can't never go there. As much as we want to. We know that right now if we just bucked on the system, we could win. But we will all be in a buck like position, like in a real mind state. The world be in trouble. Right? You know what I mean? But because we just so spiritually led that way, it's hard for us to go against that. Especially if you God fearing men. Like we know we've been done wrong and we know we can just be like Malcolm X and really go on.
[00:11:19] Speaker A: He's showing grace.
[00:11:20] Speaker C: But we don't, you know what I mean? Cause we just, we ain't.
[00:11:23] Speaker A: Why is that though? Why you think we don't? Is it because. Cause a lot of people would say it's conditioning, right? I would say it's more like grace, right?
[00:11:34] Speaker C: It's more grace for sure.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: It's more grace.
[00:11:35] Speaker C: Cause apparently brown people, we just have a bigger connection to God.
This is why gospel. And there's a church on every corner of the hood. Like moms, grandma, grandpa, they preached that to us growing up. We don't know how to go around that. Even in every country you go to, whether it's Africa, you know, wherever, we gonna always be spiritually led. So that becomes. It's really our gift. We may see it as a curse because we're getting punished here. But people don't realize. I don't believe that life ends after we die. I believe that spiritually going to a different level of spirituality that we just haven't. And this is why we can have deja vu and we think certain ways and we just. We believe that karma is definitely real, bro. Like, whatever you do on earth, you're gonna answer for it. There's no question.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: Facts like, you gonna have to pay that.
[00:12:22] Speaker C: You gonna pay it back. That bill coming, it's coming.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: That bill is coming.
[00:12:26] Speaker C: I'm telling you, it's coming.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: You know, not you in debt, might be in debt.
[00:12:34] Speaker C: We all in debt to an extent. But there's. There's areas where we know we done overdid it and we got some making up to do. Put it that way.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: How do you then reconcile those things? Like while you're here, if people. Someone that you've done wrong or maybe inadvertently or maliciously. Right. How do you then right those wrongs?
[00:12:52] Speaker C: Oh, you just confronted. Cause I know me, before I got into the music business, I confronted all my enemies. Cause I knew I couldn't hide after that. Really, Literally.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: What did that look like? It was phone calls.
[00:13:03] Speaker C: Only one of them went down to blows. But we the best friends now. But we had to get that out. Cause otherwise that jealousy, that animosity, all that envy would have triggered even more. I'd have been on stage and walked out the door. He probably would have walked right up on me and blew my head off. Cause I've seen things like that happen. Right. When you a celebrity, you can't hide.
You are who you are. And I think a lot of mistakes that a lot of rappers made because they come from a certain environment where they actually accumulate, you know, enemies like. Like, you know, like gift cards. Because at the end of the day, bro, you got to hold your stuff down. You're gonna handle somebody a certain kind of way. They gonna feel some kind of way, or you're gonna have to make a decision that protects you and all your people, right? So. But somebody ain't gonna see it that way. They gonna see it like you the op. So before you come into a position where you have to go out and be public, bro.
[00:13:52] Speaker A: Get that out the way, man.
[00:13:53] Speaker C: Get that out the way. Go to everybody that you feel that you've wronged or somehow that they feel wronged you and fix that.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Make amends.
[00:14:00] Speaker C: Make amends to it. I mean, it's no different from going to the church and, you know, and pleading to the pastor about all the bad things you've done. But sometimes you just need to go to the person at hand and just say, look, bro, I'm sorry, man. It is what it is, man. Let's fix it.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: I feel that.
[00:14:13] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:14:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been. Go ahead, go ahead.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: No, I was actually gonna switch the subject.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: Is the Not Guilty album title. Is that a whole, like, wordplay on convict music?
[00:14:23] Speaker C: It's always gonna be a wordplay in conference because all my titles.
[00:14:29] Speaker A: A little vanity.
[00:14:31] Speaker C: It's definitely that. But it's more for our culture. I think our culture's been perceived different. And I think, you know, the culture itself is under attack. And I think it's up to us. Yeah, it really is. Like, but we gotta see that. We gotta see the difference. And we gotta come in and just create more positive energy and environment around the culture. Because what happens is any little small thing that happens, they're putting the gas on it, fuel it higher. And then we losing all of our role models through it, man. We just gotta really start supporting each other from a perspective of understanding that. Okay, go. Yo, bro, don't do that. That ain't gonna look right. That might transform into something that we can't even stop. Like sometimes we just allow each other to do things. Cause we in competition with each other too. We kind of want some niggas to fall off so we can pop off, you know, like. I know it sounds crazy. Be like, yeah, nigga falling. Yeah, tell me keep on falling. I need that number one spot.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: Tell em get off the way for somebody downfall.
[00:15:18] Speaker C: Yeah, they praying. Like we, we as a people, we pray for each other's downfall. Cause we want that spot. But not even realizing that sometimes when you support that person, it actually makes you look bigger. And you might even be in a better place later because of that support.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: Do you say we losing our role models? Do you think there's a concerted effort to take down a black man in this country?
[00:15:36] Speaker C: I think it's us doing that.
[00:15:38] Speaker A: Black people.
[00:15:39] Speaker C: Yeah, it's us, man. I never wanna blame the other man for doing it. Because we can stop it. If we attack one of theirs, guess what they gonna do? They gonna round around each other and bite that bullet for each other. One of us go down we on social media, helping them go down memes.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:54] Speaker C: Like we killing each other.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree with you. I just think. Cause I remember you speaking on the difference between. Well, not the difference, but I remember you speaking on Africans and how the view of slavery and stuff like that.
[00:16:06] Speaker C: Right.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: And that kind of made me think of that.
[00:16:08] Speaker C: Right, yeah. Cause we don't think about it like that. It's kind of something that went past us. Already been there.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: So from an African standpoint, I guess speaking from the continent, whenever somebody say Africa, they think it's a country.
[00:16:20] Speaker C: Right.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: The continent of Africa with multiple countries that you've. I haven't been to Africa yet. I would love to go. But is that their general sentiment is that we've moved past and beyond that? And that's more of an American thing. In general.
[00:16:33] Speaker C: It's definitely more of an American thing. 100%.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: So. Because there were African slaves, obviously, going.
[00:16:38] Speaker C: Back, I mean, Africans actually sold slaves themselves.
[00:16:41] Speaker A: Right.
[00:16:42] Speaker C: We were actually. The Africans was the ones that sold slavery. Africans to the Europeans.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: To the Europeans. Right.
[00:16:47] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[00:16:48] Speaker A: But slavery's been a thing since before.
[00:16:50] Speaker C: Yeah, it's been. It's been a thing for a while.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: So my question, I guess, to springboard over that is I have a homie named Nana. He's from the Crenshaw district. And I remember asking. He's. I forgot where he's from, what countries? From his family. But I was asking him about, do Africans from the continent. Not really with blacks like that when we go over there. Because, you know, like, black people go to go to Africa. Different countries as tourists.
[00:17:16] Speaker C: Right.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: We're not from there. We don't know the culture, we don't know the language, we don't know the fashion, we don't know the nothing.
And so it's always like. Like, I could. Like his, like, their families. I have known people would be, like, scoff at black Americans. Is that the sentiment or is it more welcoming? It's like, come home.
[00:17:33] Speaker C: Oh, it's definitely. It's way more welcoming. Like, way more welcoming. They look forward to it. Cause they wanna learn from you, too. Believe it or not, they think y'all the richest motherfuckers on the planet.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: Really?
[00:17:44] Speaker C: They wanna get closer to African American.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: Tell them not to do radio.
[00:17:47] Speaker C: 100%.
No, what happens is you need to be doing radio and syndicating over there.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: Okay, well, let me know.
[00:17:53] Speaker C: You keep doing radio, but you need to be opening up stations on that side.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: All right, well, let me. Let me.
[00:17:57] Speaker C: Yeah, let's see yeah, we gotta syndicate you with Africa.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Yeah, let's figure that out. I definitely don't speak the language.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: How long does it take to build a City?
[00:18:05] Speaker C: About 10, 15 years, depending on the size. But the smallest cities, the fact that.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: He knows that is crazy. Yeah, about 10, 15.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: At least. At least the smallest city, at minimum. 15, 10.
[00:18:17] Speaker B: Where are you right now? On it.
[00:18:19] Speaker C: We're in our third year.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: Okay, okay.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Okay. Is. So I know, I know that the rumors have been clear about the China thing, but what is the China. What's China's actual involvement with that?
[00:18:30] Speaker C: No, I mean they like, they the same involvement in any place they vendors. Most of the things that we need are manufactured in China.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: Gotcha.
[00:18:36] Speaker C: So you got. You got all kind of materials that's coming from China, all kind of resources that's coming from China. I mean, it's like China got the latest technologies of any and everything that we trying to do and everything What I'm doing is a futuristic youth city. So a lot of things that we need are definitely going to be sourced from China for sure.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: Because I remember seeing something somebody wrote like a piece, but I think it was. It had to be a hit piece. It was like, you know, China's buying up Africa at a crazy rate. Akon is selling out the. The motherland and shit like that was all propaganda. Propaganda, yeah. Who would want to see the. The city fail in that way to want to prompt something like that?
[00:19:14] Speaker C: All the. All the non African countries that's rape in Africa, they don't want it to.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: Happen countries now, not in Africa.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: Right.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: Okay. So like European or middle whatever, all of them got you.
[00:19:25] Speaker C: Cause they all benefitting from Africa. And the key is to keep Africa down because then they can continue to rape those resources. Like everything that we're using now, all these elements that surround us are all from resources that came from Africa.
[00:19:36] Speaker A: Right.
[00:19:37] Speaker C: Imagine if we control that.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah. You want to empower people like in that way.
[00:19:41] Speaker C: They were like, man.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: Cause you also know, like American propaganda is the way they present the motherland to us is like shanty huts and like.
[00:19:48] Speaker C: Right. And mind you, we're in 2025, bro.
That's historic. That's almost like Tarzan days. But they still promoting it as if it's current.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:19:58] Speaker C: But this is one of the main reasons why I took the initiative to build the whole Afrobeat scene so we can see like America can see the idea of what the youth are in Africa. Like, I would do seminars about the difference between what African Americans think Africa is versus what it is today. So that's why we started incorporating the lifestyle in music videos. Cause entertainment is the quickest way to move information around, Especially to you facts, you know what I mean? So that's why that Afrobeat was. Was the main source for me after 2008, I said I got to go back home and help bring the whole music scene global, you know what I mean?
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Are there off the top of your head, what can you think are like the biggest misconceptions?
[00:20:35] Speaker C: I think the biggest misconceptions that Africa's full of jungles, animals, you know, undeveloped disease, undevelopment. Yeah, for sure.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Now you spoke on Afrobeats, we talking like, I don't know, a good three years where you couldn't escape it, you know what I'm saying? It's just, it was then you got a couple of artists who kind of put their toe in the water and tried to jump in a little bit. Is that Afrobeats being obviously what it is from over there, Is that something that's frowned upon? Like where it's like say a European artist or a British artist tries to do the afrobeat thing, Is that considered? Is that frowned upon? Like some appropriation type shit?
[00:21:18] Speaker C: Nah, I think any music that starts and kind of struggle to get to a certain level when it's adapted, there's gonna be a few overzealous people that feels like, oh, they shouldn't be doing that. I think that's natural. It depends on the person. But from a culture perspective, that was the whole purpose. The whole purpose was to push it out there so people can actually be able to utilize it. The reason why hip hop grew so well is because no matter where you go in the world, there's gonna be hip hop in a different country, in a different language. But n ain't going, man. That nigga, he can't be doing no hip hop. And Chinese, that ain't. Man, listen, can I tell you something? Japan, they done preserved the legacy of hip hop. You go to Japan right now, bro, they still wearing Adidas with fat laces. You can go two blocks up and see a cardboard box with them boys over there, like break dancing. Like they preserve the culture in a way that we never even did.
[00:22:05] Speaker A: Cause I remember hip hop purists would say that that's co opting the culture or appropriation and stuff like that. So I think when the afrobeats thing kind of took mainstream and started going up them charts globally, people started paying attention and it was like, well, can we do this too?
[00:22:20] Speaker C: They should. Hell yeah, you can do it.
[00:22:22] Speaker A: But then on the flip side, you saying it's cultural. But then so are like, black women's hair.
[00:22:26] Speaker C: Right, Right.
[00:22:27] Speaker A: And then you got the Kardashians get their hair braided.
[00:22:30] Speaker C: See, that's what hip hop. And they say the same thing about Afrobeats. When you look at hip hop, Hip hop created fashion that everybody think to be the wave today. You know, especially when you look at all the gold chains and the Cubans and all that. Afrobeat artists are doing the same thing. Latin artists are doing the same thing.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: Well, I mean, right? Y'all had big.
Y'all have jewelry and.
[00:22:51] Speaker C: Yeah, but like, we did naturally. Cause you could always say, okay, gold was minded in Africa, and we came from that level. But when it comes to music, that wasn't a thing that musicians did.
Musicians were more cultural in Africa before Afrobeat. Younger wave came and started moving like hip hoppers. I feel that you understand what I'm saying, Like, the culture, even hip hop was founded by African Americans. It's still us. But we didn't take full advantage of what that was until hip hop became popular. Then it motivated us, it inspired us to be that. But in the culture that we came from. You know what I'm saying?
[00:23:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:31] Speaker C: So when you look at reggaeton, it's the same thing. Spanish kids that from Puerto Rico or Dominican Republic, they look like. If you see them on the street, you would have thought they rapped. Yeah, really? Cause they look is like hip hop.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: You could tell. You can definitely look at somebody and.
[00:23:45] Speaker C: Like, you just know if they artists.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: You just know, you know, like, that's hip hop influence.
[00:23:48] Speaker C: That's hip hop all day.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel that.
[00:23:50] Speaker C: You know what I mean? So Afrobeat is similar to that, but more from a global perspective. Cause Afrobeat actually plays the same role as hip hop now internationally, like, when you go internationally, the fashion, the way they move, like, you know, if that's an Afrobeat artist, you just know off top that, okay, he's afrobeat 1,000%.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:24:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: I think too, we're quick to say what people are culture vultures.
[00:24:11] Speaker C: Right?
[00:24:11] Speaker B: But we don't. We don't.
We don't put any spotlight on when.
[00:24:16] Speaker C: We'Re doing it right.
[00:24:18] Speaker B: Because it's like, if one. One example I was having this conversation. I didn't know that. We didn't start bamboo earrings. That's not us.
[00:24:25] Speaker C: Oh, wow, that's interesting.
[00:24:27] Speaker B: That's not us.
[00:24:27] Speaker C: Yeah, that's definitely African. But it is. Y'all notice us. I know that's us for sure.
[00:24:32] Speaker B: I mean, I saw something.
[00:24:33] Speaker C: I said it was Asian. No, that's African. The bamboo earrings go here. You got bamboo earrings that go from the nose. You got bamboo earrings that go under the lip.
[00:24:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:42] Speaker C: Like, that's African all day. But it's tribal, though. You know what I mean?
[00:24:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
Some last thing on Africa, as far as, like, I'm in the studio consistently with artists arguing about music. Right? Like, going back to what you're saying, music is so fucking depressing. And I'm like, the tempo is wrong. Like, y'all. There's no tempo in the music. Like, they make an R and B, but where's the rhythm to go along with the blues?
[00:25:06] Speaker B: It's sad. Cause everybody on drugs and depression, man.
[00:25:09] Speaker C: Listen, when you said the tempo was wrong, I thought I was the only one tripping.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: No, no, no, bro. So look, this is where I'm going with it.
[00:25:14] Speaker C: This one of the main reasons why it's hard for me to listen to it. Because every rapper is offbeat.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:19] Speaker C: Like, I'm like, how is that supposed to be like. And I don't want to say, man, that's whack. But I know me coming up, we would never play that. Like, we just won't. So it's hard for me to get into it. So the moment it bothers me to the point where I have to turn it off or go to the next song. Because me, I like shit that's in the pocket. Like, if it's not in the pocket, I can't. Like, the rhythm gotta be in that pocket for me to even be able to dance. So the reason why niggas ain't dancing the club no more. Cause the beat, the rhythm, the tempo ain't there.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: The tempo ain't there.
[00:25:47] Speaker B: What was the goal before? Because you know how now people are like, well, we gotta find a TikTok song, a song that people can dance to themselves.
[00:25:54] Speaker C: And that's the mistake.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: What was the goal before? Was it to make a song for the club?
[00:25:58] Speaker C: Well, I mean, the goal before was. Yeah, to make a song for the club. We like. No, I need a club record. That saying came from, whatever works in the club was gonna be platinum at that time. You know what I mean? Radio was cool. But, man, if that thing wasn't popping in the club, though, it was different.
[00:26:12] Speaker A: If the DJs wasn't playing that shit.
[00:26:14] Speaker C: Exactly. Exactly.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: The reason why I brought that up is because I got into a really heated debate with one of the homies who's an introspective artist. Like all the strings and the things, right? And I'm like, bro, the tempo is the problem. Like I said, do you know the origin of music? And they're like, what you mean? Like. Yeah, like not hip hop music.
[00:26:32] Speaker C: Music. Yes.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: You go back to Africa, it was just beating on drums and moving to the drums. Either ceremonial or going to war.
[00:26:40] Speaker C: Right, Right, Absolutely.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: We made it about bars and we made it about. Did you hear what that said?
[00:26:45] Speaker C: Right through.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: Through human vanity.
[00:26:47] Speaker C: That's so true.
[00:26:48] Speaker A: But the essence of music is about movement.
[00:26:50] Speaker C: Right?
[00:26:50] Speaker A: Right. And so I guess I want your perspective on where music has. Where music has evolved to. Like, do you even care about. You're a songwriter first. Like, so you obviously care about lyrics, but do you. Is what's more important? Is it like, if you had to give 51% to. Would it be the movement, the tempo, the drums, the way the song moves, or would it be the actual words?
[00:27:13] Speaker C: So pretty much the lyrics versus the music.
Let's start there. If I had to put more energy in one or the other, it would be the music. And the reason why is because music talks to you in a way that lyrics may not. And lyrics don't always resonate with everybody.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: EDM is the big prime example.
[00:27:32] Speaker C: EDM has no words at all. And the ones that do, you may hear it briefly in the chorus and it's out again. But the song can be on the chart for, I don't know, harmony and pull out to 100,000 people at a festival. Right. So lyrically, lyrics depend on who's listening and where the lyrics are coming from as a person, you know what I'm saying? So the lyrics ain't always gonna be something that everybody can relate to, but the music, everybody will relate in some way, form or fashion. Like if I just play the instrumental to you. Whatever you going on in your life, you gonna mentally apply that to your instrumental so that what you're like. It's interesting because your experience become the lyrics for you facts. So you don't even need lyrics on a song. But the mood of that song, you gonna apply it to whatever mood you went through that was familiar with you at a certain amount of time. And then that becomes what you reminisce on while you're listening to that beat facts, you know what I'm saying?
[00:28:27] Speaker A: That's some real shit.
[00:28:28] Speaker C: Whereas lyrically, somebody could be saying something that's based on what that person went through. So you just listening to hear what he went through. Now, once you hear it, you're like, damn, I either can relate. Cause I've been through it too, or that's interesting. That man went through that. So it's just then. But then you off to the next song.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:47] Speaker C: Because it's not something you can really relate to. You just heard about somebody else's issues. So lyrics can be a tricky situation. So when I write, I try to write to where it's general, where everybody can relate to it.
[00:28:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:57] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:00] Speaker B: Now, speaking of that, while we talking about music, you actually introduced us to an artist who pioneered a whole different sound and changed as Usher. As T. Pain said Usher told him he ruined music with Autotune early on. Did you guys expect Auto Tune to be so successful?
[00:29:18] Speaker C: I knew it from the gate. I knew it from the gate because first of all, it was something brand new that ain't nobody ever did. And everyone that's ever had something similar to it all worked. Starting with Troutman, all the way to Teddy Riley, to, you know, all these little groups that used to play the woo. I was like, nobody ever used that as actually a sound that you could say is who I am, or this is what I represent from a perspective. But more than that, that generation had never experienced that. And then the technology was growing to where it made it sound clean, where you didn't need the keyboard to actually do it. You just needed your voice and it just did it automatically. So I'm like, we gotta take advantage of that. Cause at the time, artists like. I think it was Britney Spears, where I heard it the first time. And they only use it in one line in the whole song. It was one line in the whole song.
[00:30:06] Speaker A: Which song was that?
[00:30:07] Speaker C: I can't remember the title of it. But if you go back to around.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: That time, I think I know what you're talking about. It was only one line. I can't think of it. But it just didn't stick out.
[00:30:14] Speaker C: It didn't stand out.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Unless you're a producer.
[00:30:15] Speaker C: Right. It was an effect. It was used as an effect.
That was all it was. And then I was periodically here, pop artists using maybe as an effect on one line or whatever, a specific line, and maybe in a verse that they wanted to poke out. And I was like, man, imagine that was done through a whole song.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: Is that essentially what they did on Computer Love?
[00:30:33] Speaker C: That was actually what they did. That was the birth of Auto Tune. Because what. That's exactly what it was. But what they did now, they had made it a plug in, but that is the origination of Auto Tune right there.
[00:30:48] Speaker A: Do you take credit for.
Do you accept the credit for spawning a sound that's still to this day? Because without. Without Akon, we don't get T Pain. Without T Pain. And we don't get Young Thug, we don't get Future, we don't get Roddy Ricch, we don't get all of these people. Do you accept that? Do you accept, like, that's your lineage?
[00:31:09] Speaker C: I will accept that. That was my. You could probably say.
[00:31:15] Speaker A: Gonna, like, I can go on forever.
[00:31:17] Speaker C: But I just look at it like they was all inspired by what we brought to the business. I don't look at it like I take credit for it.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: Not taking credit for them or their career. But what I'm saying is your sound was unique.
[00:31:27] Speaker C: When we are definitely the DNA for all of those kids, though. I can definitely say that much.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: You ever listen and be like, they fucking this shit up?
[00:31:33] Speaker C: No, I listen to it. Honestly. I love Roddy Ricch.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: Right?
[00:31:36] Speaker C: Especially that first album, bro.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: Yeah, Fire.
[00:31:39] Speaker C: I had that bad boy on repeat.
[00:31:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:41] Speaker C: Like, it's a lot of kids like that that I just was like, wow, they could have been my kids. Like, because I hear those songs, I could be like, these are records that I could have actually sang myself at my prime.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: You would have wrote them.
[00:31:51] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Like, all day. You know what I mean? Like, I honestly believe that a lot of the things that we've done or brought to the business definitely was inspiration for a lot of the newer records, because I couldn't, honestly, if I had. I never came out, I wouldn't have seen music going that direction.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[00:32:07] Speaker B: You deserve the credit for that. Like, you guys pioneered a whole genre, and I don't even think.
[00:32:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: People even credit, you know, you guys for that.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: I don't think people credit you.
[00:32:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Because, you know, your sound gave way to T Pain sound.
[00:32:22] Speaker C: Right.
[00:32:23] Speaker A: Nobody was sounding like you when you was on Running the radio. Nobody sounded like you.
[00:32:27] Speaker B: Smooth singing hood sounded.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: You knew it was. When you heard, you just knew, oh, this is out of here.
[00:32:35] Speaker C: Right.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? And so for me, I'm saying I don't think anyone gives you specifically the credit for that.
[00:32:41] Speaker C: Right.
[00:32:41] Speaker B: Because it wasn't cool to say gangsta shit singing it.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: Think about this.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: If you're looking for me, I'll be on the block.
[00:32:51] Speaker A: If you think about this, there's a melodic rap category for the awards now.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:55] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:32:56] Speaker A: That didn't exist when you came out.
[00:32:58] Speaker C: Yeah. That didn't exist.
[00:32:59] Speaker A: You understand what I'm saying? So I'm asking if you fully have thought about that.
[00:33:04] Speaker C: I actually didn't. Cause I never really seek for credit. That's why I never went to award shows at all.
It wasn't about that for me. You know what I mean? It was about just being somebody that can contribute to the culture in general. Now, whether I got credit for it or not, it really didn't matter because I know that it influenced what you hear today in urban music.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: Has anybody. Has anybody behind the scenes reached out to you and gave you props or gave you that credit?
[00:33:26] Speaker B: Any awards or anything?
[00:33:27] Speaker C: Nah.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: You haven't got, like, a lifetime achievement or icon award? Oh, hell no.
[00:33:34] Speaker C: No Grammys?
[00:33:35] Speaker A: Call Jesse Collins.
[00:33:36] Speaker C: What?
[00:33:37] Speaker B: And let us present it?
[00:33:39] Speaker A: Does that.
[00:33:40] Speaker C: No VH1 award?
[00:33:41] Speaker B: No. That's crazy. Because you are the godfather of that sound and you're still here, and we can talk to you and give you the flowers. That's a shame that nobody has.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: I would have bet my house that you have gotten one.
[00:33:54] Speaker C: None. I got nominations, but never won.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: That just blew me. Yeah, crazy. Okay, so now, moving forward, obviously, I know that you have signed artists in the past shot, you know, T Pain, Lady Gaga, like, you are an eye for talent. Is there anybody that you look at now as like, man, that person is like, the one or the two.
[00:34:21] Speaker C: I would say SZA is gonna do something big in the business. I think she created a whole nother energy for black female R and B artists with the anticipation of knowing that you actually can be successful in the pop realm as an R and B artist. Cause I think we have that stigma as black people that because we doing urban music, that if we cross over, we either selling out or somehow the music isn't as authentic as it's supposed to be. You know what I mean? But I think she's kind of proven that to be totally different.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: I think SZA is one. Dochi is too another one.
[00:34:54] Speaker C: But, yeah, she is too.
[00:34:56] Speaker A: T Pain talked about his first deal when he got the $40 million check. And then he ended up getting, I guess, getting out of that deal and rocking with you. Shout out to Troy.
Rocking with you. Did. How did you convince him? Was he already broke when you did your deal or.
[00:35:14] Speaker C: No, no, no, we broke him.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: No. Was he already broke? Like, he spent the money from.
[00:35:18] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, he was dead broke.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: Okay. All right. So then. Wasn't that much convincing. Okay, never mind about that question, man. Cause I'm like, how did you convince a nigga with $40 million.
[00:35:27] Speaker C: Wait, wait. What?
[00:35:28] Speaker A: He said he got 40. You didn't see that? He said he got $40 million from his first deal. When he got like a 85.
15 split on his first deal, he just said this. Like this just came out. And it was a 40. It was. Seems like a $40 million advance, something.
[00:35:45] Speaker C: That's a lot. Nah, I don't think you have to misquote that.
Yeah. Cause, I mean, I ain't even get that at my prime.
I think that was a misquote, either. That Payne for.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: I can play the. I'll play you the audio.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: Pain fucking with y'all.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: I play.
[00:36:00] Speaker C: Nah, he play Payne do. Be fucking with niggas, too. He'll see how far niggas take niggas go.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: What, nigga?
[00:36:06] Speaker C: Nah. 40 is a lot of money. I mean, at my prime. At my prime, my biggest deal was 23 million.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: So they wrote you a check for $23 million?
[00:36:13] Speaker C: Yeah, that was on my second album. So would you.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Would you. Okay. How do you cash a $23 million?
[00:36:20] Speaker C: You don't. You deposit it.
[00:36:23] Speaker B: Broke.
[00:36:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:26] Speaker A: Hey, yeah, I'm here for cash.
[00:36:28] Speaker C: This nigga going to Nick's.
[00:36:29] Speaker B: Check, cash.
Million dollars.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: Yeah. How much I need to cash?
[00:36:36] Speaker C: Right. Drop that right in the trust. And don't even. Don't even think about it.
[00:36:40] Speaker A: Just leave it right where broke ass shit up.
[00:36:42] Speaker C: Live off the interest. You just live off the interest of that.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: I'm all in Food for Less at the little check cash.
[00:36:48] Speaker C: Hey, this trying to get it on money order.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: Yo. That's crazy. Yeah.
[00:36:56] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Your glass is calling me right now.
[00:36:57] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: Hold on, let me see that on speaker. Hey, G, we got Akon right here.
We live on the air.
[00:37:13] Speaker C: I got you, glass. You know that. You know I always got you, boy. You all right.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: What's happening?
[00:37:18] Speaker C: I'm a one, man. So good to hear from you, boy.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: Man, I miss you, dog.
[00:37:21] Speaker C: I'm glad, man. Same here. Same here. We gonna lock in. I'm gonna make sure he put us together. Yeah, yeah.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: Y'all finish our interviews. I'm on y'all later. All right, boy. Yeah, he said, yeah. I'm glad. I need this hook.
That's some nigga shit, ain't?
Hey, yeah. Yeah. I need this hook, nigga.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: Let's straight to it.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: I wanna. Cause we gotta go. But I do wanna talk to you about bmf. What about, like, acting like. I don't think you've done much of it, but is that something that you'd be Interested in doing. I mean, now that Big Meeks just came home.
[00:37:52] Speaker C: Right, right.
[00:37:53] Speaker A: The BMF series is still a thing, but is it something that. Is there a world where we get an Akon like, starring role?
[00:38:00] Speaker C: It might start happening, but I like the producing side of it. You know, the producing side of films is a better niche for me because I didn't really have too much acting talent, and I didn't want you to be popping up in front of a scene.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: Well, you could play goon number two.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: A lot of NF don't got that much acting talent.
[00:38:15] Speaker C: Not at.
[00:38:16] Speaker A: It'll be like, you know, when power.
[00:38:17] Speaker C: Is going all the way to number two.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: Number two.
[00:38:21] Speaker C: Yeah. But I think I'm gonna play around with some acting eventually, though, for sure.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: Word. Have you talked to Big Meat since he been on?
[00:38:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I spoke to him.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Okay. Is there, like. Cause I know he's gonna be at the house, so he's like, you can go to the house, do a private concert.
[00:38:33] Speaker C: Nah, nah, nah, nah. He like family. I couldn't see myself performing for him. Only in the room or some shit. Yeah, you know, you wanna see him.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: Before you be dog.
Hey, Kyran, come in and do that thing.
Hey, y'all go viral as you in there on Tick Tock doing locked up with Big Meech. Why you bullshit in the house?
[00:38:58] Speaker C: Why you bullshitting? Hey, Kai did not let me have to do that. Hey, I might just stand outside the door with the boo box.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: Bro. Bro, give me production credit. That's all I need. Give me a little production. Little production credit.
[00:39:11] Speaker C: Hit him with one of them Vitali joints.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:13] Speaker C: Outside his door with the boom box.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: He said, why you bullshitting?
[00:39:17] Speaker C: That's a great idea. Hey, that go viral so fast. Just poke his head out the windows. Me over here like this.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's good too.
[00:39:26] Speaker C: Funny.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: N. You said the album coming. No, I mean February. February, Yep.
[00:39:30] Speaker C: It's called Not Guilty February not guilty. It's going to be crazy. I'm super excited about it.
[00:39:34] Speaker A: Do you. Do you. I don't want to say features, but is there, like, any surprises on there anybody would not expect?
[00:39:41] Speaker C: That's the next album that's gonna follow that one. That's the ikonic album. Yeah, the Akonic album.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: Well, you with the branding, it's like.
[00:39:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, it's gonna be crazy. The iconic album. I'm gonna have all those crazy features. The crazy features. Yo, that one's gonna be the one.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: Nah, for sure.
[00:39:56] Speaker C: The features that people won't expect.
[00:39:58] Speaker A: All right. Well, now listen, like I said, thank you. I've been waiting for this for a long time, you know? I appreciate you.
[00:40:05] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:40:06] Speaker A: I wanted to make sure. We gotta get you an award. Cause that shit crazy.
[00:40:08] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, man. This is the award. The fact that people even acknowledge it is my award. Believe wherever I go in the world, I. I know. Like, they. My fans make me know for sure. Okay? I think the war stuff is more political. And sometimes you can lose sight of where you're going musically when you start focusing on accolades for sure. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.
[00:40:27] Speaker A: I appreciate you. God damn it. It's.
[00:40:29] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:40:29] Speaker A: Akon is here, man. The living legend himself. It's effective immediately, man.
[00:40:33] Speaker C: Appreciate that.
