Episode Transcript
[00:00:03] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ head.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: What up, world? It's your favorite homegirl. Gina views, man.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: My brother one of the homies. He's a familiar face.
Aka the baby.
[00:00:15] Speaker C: The baby.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: The baby is.
[00:00:16] Speaker C: What's up with you, bro?
[00:00:17] Speaker A: Man, I appreciate you. Number one, I appreciate you having me. Let me tell you three things. Number one, I appreciate you because you always been you. You always solid.
You never switched up. Number two, the music is consistent. Like, you one of the most consistent people, and I just gave you props when we was talking to Elliott Wilson. Like, you one of them people who give us music on a consistent basis. And you don't ever slow down.
[00:00:39] Speaker C: And I gotta stop you right there and take accountability for, like, that two year gap that I did. Slow down and get off my goddamn cadence of doing it. Yeah, but that's definitely. Yeah. The rate I would love. Okay.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: And then the third thing is, because you told me, you was like, hey, when I'm back out, I'm coming to see you.
[00:00:54] Speaker C: Not for sure, 100%.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: So I appreciate that.
[00:00:56] Speaker C: Appreciate you having me. Wouldn't rather be nowhere else. You know what I'm saying?
[00:00:58] Speaker B: I think, too, you're, like, lyrically, you want a hardest this area.
[00:01:01] Speaker C: I appreciate that fact. I'm gonna take that and run with it. I'm gonna go tell everybody you said that.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: I'm, like, a super, like, she's super hip hop. I'm big on, like, rapping shit. So when you come outside and you doing the freestyles and all of that, like, it never goes unnoticed. Do you think you get your flowers for that?
[00:01:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I do. When I do do that, you know, and I can get. I feel like I can get the same amount of flowers. Not even feel like I've done it before. I already know how it go. I apply that same level of consistency and passion into the original music to do the same, you know what I mean? That's why I came with the 14 songs at once mixtape. Fuck that. I ain't gon spoon feed because it ain't no way for me to really give you that, you know, everything that I'm capable of. Dropping single at a time after taking two and a half to three years of, you know what I mean? Like, not dropping music. I dropped more music the first six months as a mainstream artist than I have in the last three years.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: And a lot of people don't understand how the music business. I find myself teaching the music industry a lot on the air, which I shouldn't do, but people be like, man, so and so is on the shelf. It's like. Or there's label restructuring, and they don't have nothing to do with his program. You know what I'm saying? But what do you think is the reason why? Well, not. I don't say the reason. I saw. I did see you on breakfast club, so I don't rehash that conversation. But you taking accountability as far as not giving the fans music. Is that partially, do you feel like you was on. On some, like, depression type shit, or was it more just creatively you couldn't get there, or you didn't feel like being bothered?
[00:02:26] Speaker C: It definitely ain't the third one. It ain't feel like being bothered.
And I wouldn't even say, like, depression. Like, I just simply was in, like, in a creative space, like.
And that is, like, I take 100% accountability for that because it wasn't, you know, it really got to a point to where, like, somebody, you know, close to me that I worked with, like, they had to have a real nigga conversation with me. Nigga, ain't nobody holding you back but you. You get what I'm saying? Cause I would want to do something a certain way. But at the end of the day, it's like, if the music business is the business I'm in, and okay, boom, you supposed to go about shit that it was never. I never agreed, probably with 100% of how shit go to begin with. You get what I'm saying? But it's up to me as an artist, if this something that I want, if this something got the potential to goddamn feed my family, feed other people's families, all the people I take care of, I got to navigate my way through that shit and, you know, and get what I want up out of it, you know what I'm saying? So for a long time period, like, you know, I just allow myself to settle. Allow myself to settle in the shit that I disagree with when I could have been, you know, like, there's nothing to it. And I feel like that's why them freestyles and shit, like, connect like that. Cause it's just, boom, it's direct to consumer. It's, uh. So, you know, that's something I thoroughly enjoy doing. Like, I enjoy doing it. It ain't nothing. Nothing about that can goddamn change the way that shit is received. You know what I mean? It's 100% on me. And that's like, you know, that's the way I like to operate at the end of the day. That way, if something don't go it's playing. It's my fault, and I know what adjustments to make. But when I'm playing by, like, you know, so many different goddamn. I'm playing so many different people games. So many people, you know, like, whatever. Like, taking advice from here, taking advice from there, what have you, and then this shit don't work. Like, I'm left to goddamn try to figure out how this shit work. You know what I mean? And ain't nobody gonna goddamn raise their hand and say, yeah, my bad. That's me. Majority of motherfuckers ain't gonna be, yeah, that idea. Yeah, that ain't this. It's all I'm telling you. Like, I done seen it. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, like, me. Me being able to do that shit, like, the way I want to do it, that's what give me that extra. That's when I step. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's when I step, and that's the energy I'm embodying with this project. How the fuck is this a mixtape, for sure.
[00:04:27] Speaker B: What's that self talk. Like.
[00:04:31] Speaker C: It probably wasn't even so much of a talk. It was three years of goddamn living through that shit, you know what I'm saying? And finally realizing, I mean, not even that. I'm not no, I'm not no cry about it type nigga anyways. Like, I like to find solutions for whatever, you know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna be the one to find a solution. Like, before I present a problem, I already got a solution. Like, let's just do this shit like this. Boom, boom, boom. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it came from me, like, seeing it, you know, the way. And another thing with me, if some shit ain't working with me, like, and I got them and I recognize it, I'm gonna change it. It don't matter. Like, I'm not too stuck in my ways or whatever or scared to, you know what I'm saying? Like, raise my hand and say, that was me. Like, I try whatever, and if that shit don't goddamn work, boom, try something else. When I try work, though. Yeah. I'm a milk it. I'm gonna take it as far as I could take it. So it wasn't so much as, like, just an individual conversation I could pinpoint, you know what I'm saying? Like, that I had with myself or self talk is just. Yeah, like, I really, you know, I got to see the difference in everything. When I sit back and settle for, you know, what's presented in front of me rather than doing what I always do and break barriers and, you know what I mean? Shake shit up. Like, that's what I always do. I didn't get handed none of this shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, I kicked doors down repeatedly, over and over and over again. Like, I had to work for everybody the second that I got down, you know, feel like, or get to a place, which I did get to a place where I, you know, where I feel like I'm entitled to, you know what I'm saying? Like a certain level of goddamn whatever, whatever you want to call it. If, man, all these people supposed to see my album. Cause I'm better than all these. Nah, they're supposed to go this way. They're supposed to. Nah, hell nah. You gotta put the work in, you see what I'm saying? At the top, at the bottom, in between, whatever. Yeah. Even harder than before. You get what I'm saying? When you up against what I done been up against. So, you know, but that's something I know, and I've been understood. And for me to allow myself to get in a space to where I got them, you know what I mean? Where I undermine these things that I know, these are real principles. I know when it come to whatever, you know what I mean? I'm supposed to get the results I got.
[00:06:33] Speaker B: You ever lose motivation?
You ever lose motivation during that break?
[00:06:38] Speaker C: 100%. 100%. That's what I lost first.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: What do you think was the. I mean, obviously, you know, your pops and you went through a lot of shit.
[00:06:45] Speaker C: Yeah, you know, I navigated through that. I didn't get the chance to grieve, you know what I'm saying? You know, like, I probably would have. But see, that's the thing. I don't need a chance. I'm not even that type of person. Like, I don't really want a chance to, like, grieve. And with me losing my pops, that was a little bit different, you know, he got a chance to see what went on with me. I got the chance to talk to him about it. He got a chance to commend his son for going after what he went after, against whatever. Cause he wasn't. He ain't wanna hear that shit either. You get what I'm saying? Nobody really wanna hear that. We don't know nobody. There's no fucking rapper, ain't no history around me, ain't no example of that, nowhere near me or around me, of really success, period. You see what I'm saying? So, yeah, they should, you know, should or shouldn't. That part don't really matter, but he got a chance to really see me go after something and go do it, and he got a chance to commend me on that. That's our last conversation. You get what I'm saying? So that was a little bit. Then. I carried the name with the album. Kirk, number one album, honored him with the album. You get what I'm saying? That's my way of carrying the name, you know, and moving forward, and that's what he would want me to do, period. But with my brother, though, that's really what. Yeah, like, losing somebody to suicide, that's a different story. Like, I can't go do nothing about it. He did it to himself. I can't go. You know what I mean? Not only that, my nieces, the people I love the most, they really. They still living through this shit today, right now. You get what I'm saying? Every time I do an interview and talk about it, that shit get to circulating online. They reliving that shit every time. When they got them. Exactly. When they got them see the car. Like, they, you know, so this shit is. This shit is a very real thing with me. You know what I'm saying? And when I see this shit that's so real with me get played with by all this other shit that come with the music business, you see what I'm saying? And people. And people that I work with work around, whatever, like, not know how to differentiate the two. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, this real life shit and not knowing, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, you know, it's a lot of. Yeah, it make you a ticking time bomb. You get what I'm saying? Or whatever. Cause you got no choice but to, you know what I'm saying? Just, you know, brush everything to the side and goddamn keep it moving. But, yeah, that's a recipe for goddamn.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: You know, I remember you saying.
You said basically, like, once somebody. The sentiment was, once somebody, like, cross you to a certain level, you, like, ain't no coming back from that. Basically, like, you know, you can move on, and you be a fool to come back and trust me after, you know, what you did to me. Yeah, right. But then, also on the flip side to that, based on what you just said, as far as, like, people treating you just like you just. This machine, you don't got real shit going on. Is there empathy? Like, what? What do you think? Like, don't you think that there's some level of empathy that you should have for other people that you want them to have for you in the same way?
[00:09:20] Speaker C: Absolutely. And that's how I am. You know what I mean? Like, it ain't, you know, and don't get me wrong. Like, when I say, when I say goddamn, like, you know, I cut a motherfucker off. I give everybody mercy. Cause God give me mercy. I didn't navigate it through plenty. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, outside of this shit, outside of the world of controversy, anybody of me, anybody that's a fan of me or anybody who, you know, who know of me as an artist, outside of anything, any of y'all know, I didn't, the shit that y'all don't know, it run laps around that shit. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, I definitely, that's not something I, like I hold my nuts on n about, especially in terms of, like, being, like, insensitive to what I go through or whatever, because at the same time, that's another area where I can hold myself accountable. Cause I don't allow people to. You get what I'm saying? Like, it's very real with me. So it's like, if I'm dealing with somebody for something else, like, if I'm dealing with somebody, like, I do business with, like, I'm not even Finna have a serious conversation with you about my brother committing suicide. Like, we not even about to blur them lines. You get what I'm saying? Like, you doing business, like, that's my brother. You get what I'm saying? Like, that's my nephew, my nieces, that's their daddy, that's my mama's son. You see what I'm saying? Like, every day at a certain time, a long go off on my mama phone, she say his name. My mama ought him. Like, it's, this is every day for the rest of all my people, life type thing. So it's like, you know, when it come to that, like, I'm real, you know, I'm real goddamn. I'm real particular about, like, how I got them, how I deal with that. And with that being said, like, you know, for, I probably wouldn't even give myself a chance to decipher whether or not if something was genuine or whether or not, if it had intention behind it, if somebody did, you know, even attempt to check on me, you know what I mean? Try to, you know, try to see if I was okay. Through the shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I probably wouldn't even allow it. And I probably, definitely wouldn't. I know for a fact, like, you know, like, I'm setting that type shit down. Like, I'm not even gonna act like, you know, you feel me. You would have to feel me. You would have to know. You have to come tell me something. And I feel like, okay. You know what I'm saying?
[00:11:26] Speaker A: Genuine.
[00:11:27] Speaker C: Exactly. Yeah. Or, you know, you would have to have somewhat of a similar experience or some shit.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: Got something to relate to.
[00:11:32] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: I thought you took really good accountability on not accountability. I thought you addressed how you was feeling and what you was going through on the intro. Like, was it in a minute?
[00:11:42] Speaker C: Yeah. It's one of my favorite records on it.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: Me too. And I was just telling her before you got here, I'm like, I like when you do those types of records because people do look at you like a machine.
[00:11:49] Speaker C: Like a machine, yeah. And that's what I meant to touch on that part. Like, that's how I. That's how I got. That's how I operate. That's how I carry myself. So I can't fault nobody for that. You know what I mean?
[00:11:59] Speaker A: Oh, you're saying that's how you present, so you can't.
[00:12:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't fault nobody for looking at. They used to that. They used to seeing this nigga. No, it don't matter what that nigga got them go through. You get what I'm saying? It's boom. Like, I'm not even trying to talk about that shit. Like, you know me. Like, it could have went down yesterday. It could have been a whole shootout if, God damn. I'm talking about shooting this music video, doing this today. Like, I'm goddamn, look, we only. We not talking about that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm gonna keep it so short. Like, boom.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: Let me ask you this. Cause the women that I have dealt with in my life always tell me that it stems back to when I was a kid, and I'm terrible with women because I'm like that the same way. It's like, it don't matter what I'm going through. Like, let's get to whatever we got going on. And so I remember specifically one day, my mom coming home, and she was. My mom's strong. Like, you give your mom. That's what I give my mom, the same, you know, Jackie. And so I'm like, when Jackie would come home from work, she would be like, hey, she gave me a bag of batteries from the 99 cent store and a flashlight, and she like, here. And then go take the food out the refrigerator, put it in the freezer, and I'm like, what's going on? I'm fourth grade.
[00:13:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: She like, well, the electricity finna get cut off until, like, next week or the week after I get paid. So here's some batteries here. The flashlight, put the food out of the refrigerator in the freezer so it stay good longer, and she would just go in her room, and that was just Tuesday, right? So I think I've been conditioned like.
[00:13:28] Speaker C: That to navigate through life.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: To navigate life like that. And I remember you saying something similar. Do you remember something like that in your life?
[00:13:34] Speaker C: Plenty. Plenty. I can give a thousand stories like that. Like, my mama the strongest woman I know. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like that, like, when it come to women, like, if a woman I do, like, you gotta be a strong woman. Like, I don't know nothing about, like, you know, like, looking at anything is, like, an obstacle that you can't navigate through. I don't know nothing about that. I don't know nothing about no woman. Like, you know? I don't know nothing about a woman not being the head of, like, not knowing how to run shit, not knowing how to goddamn boom. I don't know nothing about that. Cause my mama's strong, and my mama, goddamn boom. Like, she did three.
You think about how you look at me, how the world look at me, right? The stigma around the baby, right? Whatever. Like, if you tell them I fuck, describe the baby in one sentence, right? Think about what the average sentence would be.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:22] Speaker C: And think about the fact that out of my mama, three sons, I'm the baby boy. I was the angel. I was the. Yeah. I was the one with the good grades. I was the one. Yeah. I'm telling on them niggas. Cause they terrorizing me. My older brothers. You get what I'm saying? So just to put that into perspective, like, and I know my whole family, like, y'all tripping like this ain't nothing. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, I'm like, kirk, the good one. Like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:14:45] Speaker B: Like, for sure you the good one.
I hate to see the rest of.
[00:14:48] Speaker C: The brothers coming, I swear to God. I promise you. I promise you. You know what I'm saying?
[00:14:53] Speaker A: So, yeah, I, like, did it, too. I felt like that was another. That's the one I've been playing on the radio. That's my favorite one.
[00:14:59] Speaker C: I appreciate you put on that.
[00:15:01] Speaker A: I know a lot of people been talking about, ain't that a bitch?
[00:15:03] Speaker C: Ain't that a bitch too?
[00:15:04] Speaker B: Ain't that a bitch is the one. I like that one.
[00:15:07] Speaker C: Everybody got a situation they done been through or whatever that they can. I'm pretty sure that that shit, it touched a certain spot.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: What was the significant moment like that? Whatever happened, what was the situation where you was like, ain't that a bitch?
[00:15:21] Speaker C: Damn, ain't that a bitch? It's plenty, you know what I mean? But it more so, you know, it boiled down to that's more of a reflective song than anything. So, like, you know, the ain't that a bitch moment when it comes to this shit, it's probably a moment I done had, like, more recent. You get what I'm saying? Cause it's like it take time to really be able to, you know, look at shit and stand across the street from, you know, your life and your relate and look at your relationships from over here. Take for them to go all the way left for you to got them. Understand, you know, that you overplayed your partner shit anyway. And it ain't even, you know, appreciate it in the end, you know what I'm saying? That'll change your perspective on life altogether, you know, even though it's like something a nigga used to. Like, I grew up around, you know, I grew up around that shit, so it ain't really, you know, but it's different. Shit hit different when it's family or when it's, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit hit different. Shit hit different when it's motherfuckers who. Yeah, who at any point, you know, probably looks you in your eyes and told you, goddamn, you didn't save their life. Looks you in your eyes and told you they don't know where they'll be without you.
[00:16:25] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[00:16:26] Speaker C: You get what I'm saying? But then end up giving you they ass the kiss.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:16:29] Speaker C: See what I'm saying? And then ain't even, you know, ain't even solid enough within they self and it's male, female, whatever. Ain't even solid enough within they self to even, you know, still fix they lips or allow another motherfucker in the room to fix their lips to discredit or take away anything you done did from them. You see what I'm saying? Like that type shit. Like, you know, shit, it hit different when it come that way. And I'm pretty sure everybody in some capacity, for sure. For sure. So I like that song, too. I really love that song. That was another one that I added, like, last minute that wasn't on there. But I'm like, now I need these pieces. Like, it need this real deal. Cause I'm really, you know, in a space to wear, and I didn't grown and changed so much. And then even with me realizing, like, you know, and hold myself accountable for the part that I played, which is the most important part, and the way that my career done went over the last couple years, like, it's like I'm in a space to where I need to reintroduce myself to the audience. They need to understand, like, who exactly they listening to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It ain't just the super entertaining motherfucker that come with the hit songs from back then. And you know what a nigga did, he's super entertaining. He come with the hit songs, but he'll still get on your ass or this or that. I don't know, bro. I let people, you know, get their own, you know what I'm saying? Spill on what I am to them or, you know, or how they perceive me. But it's definitely so much growing. It didn't happen in between the where. Yeah, it's no way. And that's why I came with the amount of songs or whatever, but it's like, no way for a motherfucker to connect with me as a person without me goddamn covering all the bases and checking all the boxes. You get what I'm saying? And that's what I did with this project.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: Speaking of that, though, because you're one of those people who you have no issue with being vulnerable. And we're in, like, a social climate where black men are not allowed to be vulnerable.
You, like you said, you dedicated the project to your father that you lost.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: You lost a sibling. That's something I can identify with. It's been ten years. I'm still grieving to this day, for sure. Have you ever regretted being vulnerable with the world?
[00:18:20] Speaker C: Absolutely. Yeah. 100%. Because it ain't. It wasn't. It wasn't. It was taken for granted. It was taken advantage of. It was preyed upon. You get what I'm saying? It was preyed upon. And that was the turning point in me, like. Like, falling out of love with this shit, you know what I'm saying? When it come to making music and releasing music, like, that's what made me fall out of love with that shit. Cause it's like, this really me. Like, I'm you know, this is me. This is me giving you me. For real? For real. You get what I'm saying? Especially when you get. When you get advised to be vulnerable, right? And then you see the shit weaponized and used against you, then it's like. Cause I really don't, like, really like my comfort zone. Like, how I'm raised, like, for three decades, my comfort zone is, nigga, fuck everybody. I'm gonna go through whatever. Goddamn. Yeah. You know, do something.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: That's kinda how you raise to be like that, right?
[00:19:10] Speaker C: So, like, that's. It's so easy for me to do that when I am vulnerable to the world and shit. I know you said, like, I can get perceived as a person and I have no problem being vulnerable. That's the thing. Like, I never had no problem doing both. And me knowing, okay, where I go with me knowing what I'm about, it's a difference. Like, you got certain people that wear it and want you to see them as they wanna wear that shit 24/7 but me, like, that ain't never been me. That ain't never had to be me. You know what I'm saying? Like, that ain't never had to be me. I had a biggest smile in the room and the biggest gun in the room at the same time. Depending on goddamn how you deal with me. You can get either one. You see what I'm saying? You get either one, right, right. But it ain't, you know, I'm not too much if I. But the first one that I'm going, I'm always gonna lead with the smile. It's not, you know, I won't say nothing at all. But I ain't out here, you know, on some, trying to show. I've been in the space. I've never had to do that coming in the game. I never had to show motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't do that. I could have came in on some straight. When I came into the game the most, what motherfuckers probably knew the most about me was, did I kill somebody? You see what I'm saying? Did I kill somebody? Like, they knew that. Like, if it's like, okay, boom, they know that. So I could have came in, like, trying to represent that as a person and, like, you know what I mean? Like. But nah, smiling, showing all my teeth, goddamn, on the album cover. You get what I'm saying? I still bring you animated goddamn visuals and shit. Like, I'm playing the person that's getting bullied in my own music video. I'm really falling down and shit, hurting my goddamn arm. I'm really, you know, I ain't never been, you know, too cool for myself, and never been afraid to tap into my mind creatively and represent different walks of life within my art and my music, and still package that shit and give it to you, in a way to where it don't take away from my integrity as a person. And when I still walk in any room, I'm gonna get respected as a man. You get what I'm saying? So that ain't, you know, in a nutshell. Like, in a nutshell. It ain't. I'm just. I got on. I blew up off being unapologetically myself. That is what people favor the most about me. You get what I'm saying? That's what they love the most about me. So when I get into a space to where I do, okay, open up, or I do tell you, okay, how certain things affect me, or I do, or if I even. I even open the door for that. To care about what a motherfucker say or how I'm perceived here and there. That shit is not. That's not for me.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:35] Speaker C: Yeah. That's when I see you feel me, like. And that's why I refuse to go that route moving forward. So, any signs of that? I'm not going.
[00:21:42] Speaker A: So no vulnerability or you say, no.
[00:21:44] Speaker C: Not vulnerability, but, like, vulnerability. I'm leading with that. Like, it's completely transparent. You get what I'm saying? It's like Eminem and eight mile. Like, he come do the freeze. He gonna. I'm a. I'm laying all my flaws out on the table right now. Okay, so now what? Like, what are we talking about?
[00:21:58] Speaker B: Like, we need that because everybody is, like, fake perfect.
[00:22:01] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: And I feel like you have one of those success stories that without. Not just the success, but with the family shit.
[00:22:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:08] Speaker B: That's something that people can identify with.
[00:22:09] Speaker C: Nah, absolutely. I couldn't fake perfect if I wanted to. Nowhere along the line, nowhere in my journey could I fake like, I ain't going through shit or none of this. I never had that luxury. You get what I'm saying? But what I always did have and the better days out of it, what I always did have was, you know, the resilience within me to goddamn move forward and navigate through whatever. But when I. You know, when I allow myself to get into a space to where it's like, nah, be still and let that shit sit with you type shit, it's like, and then look how y'all handle niggas to be still and you be still and goddamn bend over. They gonna spank you, nigga. They gonna spank you. Be still. Been over. You getting fucked. You're getting fucked.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: Do you think that actually. Fuck that. I ain't even gonna ask about that for you. What I do appreciate, I'll tell you this. What I do appreciate you. I've definitely defended you a lot over the last four years. Like, when it came, I'm like, bro.
[00:23:01] Speaker C: I appreciate it too, bro.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: He not like I'm talking to Arnold, talking to g about just different things. Right? But one thing, you always have stood on that I noticed, and it's out loud as being a father.
[00:23:12] Speaker C: Absolutely, 1000%.
[00:23:13] Speaker A: And I really appreciate that. Just because black men specifically get a bad rap. Now, I think I've told you this before off Mike, but black men get a bad rap for being dead, be dads, not being around, like, not taking care of their kids, all of the shit that come with it, right. You are out loud about how involved you are with your kids.
[00:23:33] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: You put your kids first. You got them on the jet with you. You got them. You brought your kid to a radio station, like, different things like that, to where it's like, no, like, I'm a dada first. Like, my kids come before all of this shit. And I'm not playing about my kids. And if you say something about, like.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't be. I be trying to, like. Like, as much as people think I show my kids, like, I don't. I be trying to keep it. Cause I get to. I go follow your page.
I lay on your ass for some time. It'll happen, right?
My baby mama had to talk me out of doing something to one nigger not too long ago. I swear to God, she already know. She know what's up with me. Like, I ain't even. I said nothing to her.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:13] Speaker C: And she called me out of nowhere. Like, hell no. Send me a text, like, I already know what you own. Hell no. Hell no. I already know what you own. And it was emotion.
I swear to God, it was emotion. She. I already know what you on. Hell no. Fuck that lame ass nigga.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: So I remember specifically, there was different things that happened for you as a dad.
How do you then navigate the space? Because you are public with your kids, you know, even your nephew. Your nephew is hilarious.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: That's the star.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: Oh, he's a star.
[00:24:49] Speaker C: I'm gonna be like him when I grow up.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: But how do you navigate the space of, like, exposing them to what you got going on, letting them be a part of what you. Cause I know it's important for kids to want to be a part of or what they parents got going on. Cause otherwise they feel alienated. They with a nanny, they with the grandma, shit like that. But how do you balance that and keeping them involved but keeping them away to where they ain't get me in, like, where you gotta go crash out, right?
[00:25:11] Speaker C: For sure. When it come to that. Like, I let my kids choose, like, you know, like, I let them choose what they gravitate towards in them spaces rather than do it. Like, I see a lot of niggas, like, on the Internet. And who knows, you know? I mean, it's different, but I mean, I know with me, like, you know, like, with me, like, I know too. But, like, I see people, like, try to force their kids, try to force the cameras on their kids, force all this shit, you know what I'm saying? On their kids or whatever. And I can kind of in comparison to, like, how it is with me and my kids, like, I can. It's a difference. Let me just say that. I ain't gonna say I can tell that it's this way. Cause maybe that kid is just, whatever, it's shy. But, like, I got four daughters. They all got different personalities, right? So, like, my second born, my second born daughter, she not with that camera shit.
She not with none of that. So I'm never going, like, I'm not letting nobody make her uncomfortable. It don't matter who it is. You get what I'm saying? Especially not me. So it's like, I'm not even gonna point a camera at her. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm not gonna do it. Motherfucker from the outside looking in might see it as, oh, why he don't post this child or whatever. She don't wanna be posted, nigga. Right? And it ain't. And you try to come post her, see me with her and try to come put a camera on her, you gonna see. You get what I'm saying?
I'm telling you. I said it's gonna be more than that. But goddamn. Yeah, that's what I'm like. I let them choose what they like in this shit. You see what I'm saying? And then I make the decision whether or not if this is something that suits this in their best interest for me to allow them to be a part of, they might wanna come do this show or come do this. You get what I'm saying, or they might wanna, I might have this song. Got them going on. Like, whatever. If I got, like, the shake something song going on. But if it's a trend going on with the song the way, okay, let's say if it's a fucking trend going on with any type movements or dance or something that I don't agree with, right. Or whatever. Like, I know what to keep them away. What to keep them away from. And not only that, like, I talk to my kids. I keep it real with my kids. Like, my oldest daughter, like, I don't even, she got her discernment at the age of seven is like none other. Like, she know what's going up. Absolutely. Like, she ain't gon, you know, she's not gonna involve herself in shit. It don't matter. 20 little girls right there doing it. She gonna goddamn, oh, she, but you do anything that she, that's in her lane, she's the best at it. Like, she gonna look. Yeah, but they know, and that's what I do. Like, I pour it into my kids. I tell my kids right from wrong. My nieces, my nephew, I don't give a fuck how you feel about it. Any kid around me, like, you can hate me. You get what I'm saying? But they don't, they respect it. Like, we ain't, that's such, that's the norm around this bitch to where, you know, any kid who I didn't, who I done been there, you know, since they done been born and I done been in their life consistently. Any kid that I'm around, period, I'm not gonna let your kid do some shit they ain't got no business doing. And I ain't gonna let nobody. I'm not gonna let nobody if I'm in a room. Absolutely. But that's how we was raised. You give it to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how we was raised. Like, it wasn't, okay. Mom in the house, daddy in the house, so goddamn boom. That's who laid the law. That's who do the nurturing. It wasn't none of that. It was the same thing. My mama did both. You know what I'm saying? My uncle's filled in where she needed help at. You know what I'm saying? That's why we so throw it off in so many other ways. That's why, you know, I get tendencies. I get characteristics and tendencies from so many different people. So many. But we all like on hindsight, when I become a grown ass man, I look back, we all lit. Like, I can still. I can make my uncle instagram right now. They nigga have a million followers organically in a week. You know what I'm saying? My nephew, my nieces, anybody. I really almost got to protect my family from this shit because, you know, I want them to know how to navigate through this shit, too. And I don't want them overexposed to the world and end up being in danger. Like, and that's one thing about me. Like, I always care more about my family than myself. I'm ready to deal with whatever at the end of the day when it come to me. But if I got my family involved or whatever, like, I'm completely different. Like, I don't want my mama buddy buddy with motherfuckers talking or whatever. I don't. I don't want that. You know what I'm saying? I don't want that.
They can deal with me. They don't. You don't deal with who I deal with? Cause if they play with you, if they play with me, you know, I can. I can suck it up and let it slide. You get what I'm saying? Or choose whether or not if it's worth it for me to. You know what I mean? But they play with you.
I'm having no understanding about this. I don't know. No understanding, you know what I mean? So that's kind of like how I deal with it. Like, when it come to family and, you know, and how involved I choose to have them. But at the end of the day, like, if they express it to me that they want to be involved in something, like, they just gotta be ready. And I teach them that type shit. Not only that, like, I like to lead by example, you know, and I got shit that I can reference immediately that I done been through. You get what I'm saying? With my career, why? It's like, nah, you don't want my daughter already know what's up? Like, you can't. My oldest daughter, you can't even walk up to her and people do it all the time. You get what I'm saying? By how much she has been in the public eye, you know what I'm saying? When she is in the public eye, how much attention she draws, you know what I'm saying? But. And she tells me every time, like, if a kid come up to her at the park today, if she out at the park with her brother, mama take her to the park, she'd be in the. She's gonna facetime me when I talk to her in a minute, when we talk on the phone every day, she's gonna tell me, daddy, somebody came up to me in the park and asked me and asked me, was the baby my daddy? They asked me, was you my daddy? What you tell him, baby? I told him no, and walked off. Like, she don't play that shit. I'm telling you.
A teacher at her private school that she was at last year. Seven. Just turned seven to Mayo. Yes. Thoroughbred. To the.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: I like that.
[00:30:29] Speaker C: I'm telling you.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: Is that why you none like her?
Cause you mentioned this several times on the mixtape where you was talking about, like, you want a woman that's not in everybody face. You want a girlfriend to be stank face, too?
[00:30:42] Speaker C: It don't even gotta be stank face. Just, you know, just firm and just confident within herself and, you know, one who don't feel like she gotta overplay it, you know what I mean? In order to gain attention.
[00:30:55] Speaker A: You was talking about being one that.
[00:30:56] Speaker C: Ain'T attention seeking and easily oppressed, easily impressed. You get what I'm saying? To summarize it, like, yeah, that type shit. Like, it ain't. And that ain't my baby, like, at all. She eating.
She don't give a fuck if she was here right now. And, like, you walked in and. Hey, hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? Look, girl, I'll be seeing you on the Internet. Shit. Look there at you. Look at me like, I swear to God.
[00:31:20] Speaker B: What's her son?
[00:31:21] Speaker C: Taurus.
[00:31:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:31:23] Speaker C: Yeah, Taurus. Same thing. Her throw it off ass Mama is, I got too many tauruses in my life that I got to deal with.
My second born daughter got the same fucking birthday. What, three years apart? Yes, but they personalities. It's completely different.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Birthday shop.
[00:31:42] Speaker B: How many years apart are they?
[00:31:44] Speaker C: Three.
She was born on her third birthday.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: Same mom.
[00:31:48] Speaker C: No.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Oh, that baby mama was petty, man. You couldn't push her out a day.
[00:31:53] Speaker C: Before or day after I did. I would have loved for her to. I would have loved. I'm like, have her now, man. Please. Have her now. Cause my oldest, she on straight princess. But that's what I'm saying. Like, that girl is such a pure. And, like, that girl is everything. Like, she is the. She takes pride in being up. She's the best big sister, the best daughter I've ever seen. The best little sister to her brother, the best grandchild to my mama. Like, she is. That girl is one of a kind. You get what I'm saying? So it's just. It's an honor. And that's, you know, that's my motivation at the end of the day, when I lost motivation, that's what it was. It really.
I ended up in a space to where on hindsight, like, you know, I'm looking at it as something that I needed that Jonathan needed. You get what I'm saying? Like, I needed that. I needed to get my ass sat down. I needed that time to, you know what I mean? Like, I always gave time to my kids, but I needed. I needed time to not, you know. She know that about me, too. She know daddy gonna go to work. Daddy take it. She know why. She know you. If you see a gun, you ask her with a gun for to protect your family. You get what I'm saying? You ask her why her daddy gone. He at work.
Say why. She gonna give you a complete sentence. She not even gonna just say here. And this could be anybody. If she out with her mama right now, somebody where your daddy at? She gonna. If she say anything, she gotta know him and fuck with him to say anything. If she do he at work to take care of us, to take care of our family, she know what time it is. You know what I'm saying? And that's what, you know. I mean, that would be advice I would give to anybody who admire, you know, me as a father. Like, make sure you, you instill, you know, morals and principles into your kids and explain to them what's going on. So if you ever is away from them, they not left wondering, you know what I'm saying? What the fuck you do it for and, you know, and why you doing what you're doing. And then that within itself, that instills them principles in them. You know what I mean? No, she's not looking for no handout. Like she, you know what I mean?
[00:33:43] Speaker A: Something that always stands out to me about you is that it's always authentic. Like, even if it's. Even if it's. Whether it's negative, positive, it's still real, right? You know what I mean? And I think you write about people, people know that about you, right? Like, you're going to get real every time, right? Do you ever think that being real is something that not being. I don't want to say. Being real is overrated. Because to me, I'm me the same way. Like that. Like, people don't like me because I'm real. I tell them I don't like their record or people like me because I'm real.
[00:34:14] Speaker C: And I tell you, you tickled me yesterday, I saw some shit. You made me laugh. I said, hey, what? I crazy.
I ain't even going, oh, all right.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: We'Ll talk about this.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: But, um, you seen him dragging that white man?
[00:34:26] Speaker A: I didn't drag him.
[00:34:28] Speaker C: It just, anyway, you know, go ahead, though.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: We talk about that. But how being authentic as you are, how have you avoided, like, the quote unquote beefs? Because I know, like, people, I don't think people want to play with you for real. So when it comes for fake, like, it not being authentic, when it comes to, like, rap battles, and she's a huge battle rap fan when it comes to battle. I don't think nobody has ever tried you in that way either. Why do you think that is? From your perspective, from your lens?
[00:34:58] Speaker B: Somebody tried to fake beef with you.
[00:35:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: It ain't real, though.
[00:35:02] Speaker C: But I'm saying, you know, that type shit. But that's like my response to it. It's like, to directly answer your question.
I don't. I do my part in staying out of this shit. You get what I'm saying? I can't tell you why.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: So you go out of your, I.
[00:35:17] Speaker C: Can'T tell you why. Nobody tried me. But it's like, you know, I even out here in the world, like, I know how to move when I leave here, okay? I know what type of goddamn store to stop it to go to. Sometimes I don't give a fuck. You get what I'm saying? Sometimes I don't. Sometimes it's like, fuck it, I need this right now, okay? So I go do this. That's life, you know what I mean? Or sometimes you ain't gonna be in a situation where you get to choose. You get to choose your environment and the factors that come to play in the environment, you can, I can only always control how I operate, you know what I'm saying? With whatever hand I'm dealt. Okay. No, no, no. So, but this what I'm saying. Like, when it comes to rap, like, I can't sit here and say, and they ain't trying to dis me cause they know I'm gonna do something. But I could tell you why I wouldn't diss a nigga on no song. You get what I'm saying? Like, why I'm not, right? I'm not into that type of shit because, like, you know, a motherfucker say the wrong thing, you know, about me or my people or what have you, like, my response to that? It's going to be different. It's not just going to be like music.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:14] Speaker C: And I can't. And I can't. That ain't even something I can predict, you know what I'm saying? But I know I ain't going for certain shit. You know what I mean? I just know I ain't going for certain shit.
And at the end of the day, like I say, like the shit I go through, a lot of the shit I go through, the shit I go through, that a motherfucker would probably call they self talking about, right? Even if you just. If you. If you just talk about the shit like a motherfucker probably trolled me about this or that, like, that shit that I got them losses I wear on my sleeve, that shit I. You know what I mean? That shit. What made me. My struggle on the way up is what made me who I am, period. Like, I'm, you know, I'm proud of my struggle. I'm proud of goddamn having to come home and having a house key at five years old, and goddamn getting off the bus and let myself in the house and lock the door, don't let nobody in. So your brothers come home. Like, I'm.
I've grown in a space and become aware enough as an adult to appreciate the character that was developed within the moments and shit. You get what I'm saying? And goddamn, the character that's developed in the swag that you get from your. That's why my nephew is the way he is. Like, he done been through some shit, you know what I'm saying? And still going through some shit to this day. And it's like, that's the coolest little nigga you gonna know.
He just turned seven three days ago. Yeah, three days ago, he just turned seven. But I don't know. A seven year old fucking with that boy.
I promise you, I don't. You know what I mean? But that type of shit, like. But motherfuckers from the outside looking in don't understand. It's like that shit is, you know, that shit is derivative of struggle and going through some shit and having to make a way in no way and having to, you know, make what you got to be enough and find happiness within yourself. And we got no choice but to be confident. You get what I'm saying? We ain't got no choice but to be confident. Cause we can't. I ain't get the J's and all that shit till I start either stealing from the mall or hustling. I didn't have that. You know what I'm saying? I'm wearing my older brother clothes, who are already selling drugs, robbing niggas. He five years older than me. I'm strapping some. And that's when the jeans. That's when we was already wearing shit too big for us. I got the belt. You know, the belt that you can just go all the way this way to where ain't no belt holes. It's like it's woven, like Loki.
[00:38:25] Speaker B: Like the initial belt, the first one.
[00:38:28] Speaker C: You know what I'm talking about? The little brown shit.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: Before the initial.
[00:38:31] Speaker C: Before the name belt? Yeah. Hell no. Before the name Belt got down, I got my hands on one of them, but I was already selling candy and shit by that time. I bought my own name Belt. Mine was official. It said John John. But the computer, like we. Yeah, no, I ain't had a digital one.
It's not like that. I ain't have it like that. That's your plan? You weren't playing for the girls to have. You wasn't playing. I ain't had that. God damn. Yeah. Yeah, you would have been one of. You was one of them ones.
Yeah, he was one of them ones.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: To his point, though, on some rap shit, I don't think that you would be an easy component for somebody to beef with. So it just. We just speaking music. We're just keeping it musically. That's why it was even surprising to me when you did tell the story. I don't even know if the person name ended up coming out, but when you told the story, somebody said, well, you said this shit is a component.
[00:39:22] Speaker C: But what you saying, though, like, easy component?
[00:39:25] Speaker B: Like, as far as.
[00:39:26] Speaker C: There's a lot of shit you can talk about.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: No, I mean, opponent, opponent. What'd I say?
[00:39:31] Speaker C: Component.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: Component. I'm dyslexic.
[00:39:34] Speaker C: You think I'd be an easy opponent and a rap beef?
[00:39:36] Speaker B: I think you would be a hard. A difficult. You'll be a tough cookie to battle.
[00:39:40] Speaker C: Okay. Okay. There we go. Okay. Because, like, what you saying. No, you must not like what you.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: I didn't mean to say that.
[00:39:47] Speaker C: Cause I'm gonna outrap a nigga deal with.
[00:39:50] Speaker B: No, that's what I'm saying, though.
[00:39:53] Speaker C: You ain't performing this shit nowhere. We gonna crash when I. You gonna know the difference between you and me. But that's just how, like, that's how I'm not even on no rap shit.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: Like, when you spoke about the person who was like, oh, let's do this. In the light of, like, what's going on, to me, that didn't even make sense?
[00:40:09] Speaker C: Not at all. It's just like, you know, this person don't know me like that.
[00:40:12] Speaker B: Your freestyles have literally been, like, fan favorites.
[00:40:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So it's like, why the fuck would you want to beef with a nigga that everybody loves when he freestyle and.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: He rap all the time?
[00:40:21] Speaker C: Yeah, it would give you notoriety. But that was the whole idea. Like, that was, bro. Whole idea. Like, yeah, people, it's gone. It's gonna go crazy. Like, the conversation started. You want to go crazy? You trying to go. I'm like, what's up? What you got in mind? I'm thinking you got a song or something? Yeah, I think it'd be dope if we got.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: Nah, bro, that's like asking to get your ass what.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: What a play.
[00:40:43] Speaker B: Like, that's crazy.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: To her point, I looked, I got homies that I'm from LA, we got security like that do clubs and shit. The homies would go to the club and fight the security. And I'm like, why the fuck would you go fight niggas that's there to fight?
[00:40:56] Speaker C: Right, right.
That.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: Leave them alone, bro. And so I look at it the same way. Like, if you. You actually like rapping, you rap all the time on Instagram, on freestyles, on YouTube. Like, you just rapping. Why would you want to fuck with a nigga that likes to rap and.
[00:41:13] Speaker C: You know, get into the other shit, right? So now it's, you know. But see, like I'm saying, it's somebody out there for everybody.
You say you got home, you got homies that they go to fight secure. That's what they do. They. You know, it ain't. Ain't nobody untouchable in any category. You get what I'm saying? So, you know, but me, like, I wouldn't engage in that. Like, it would have to be. It would have to be worth it for me to engage in that. I would have to see something else. It ain't something I'm a back down from, you know what I'm saying?
[00:41:40] Speaker B: But it needs to make sense.
[00:41:41] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's like, I would have to watch what I say. Cause I'm gonna do something. Something gonna happen, so I can't, if I say too much, and then, goddamn, when something happened to your ass, they just gon come pick me up, and I ain't going rap, battling the goddamn beat, sitting in jail, talking about I was the best battle rapper ever. He really knew that he was rapping about. We already. We should know that by now. That ain't what I'm doing it for. You get what I'm saying? At the end of the day, like, ain't no nigga trying to go viral off no moment with me. No, like, you are. No, you sitting across from me in no courtroom.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: You are no slouch when it comes to being in shape. And I try to go, we call it together. I'm like, for Floyd Mayweather effect, they just. You walk around ready at all times, right?
[00:42:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: So. But you are seeing. You are seeing a lot of rappers that starting to do these. These fights, like, online, where they stream.
[00:42:30] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:42:31] Speaker A: Would you be open to doing something like that? They'd be giving, like, offered you a bag?
[00:42:36] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. You remember for who?
How much the nigga fuck with? I'm like, man. I'm like, man, come on.
I don't know. I don't know how that work. You know, I'm saying that part of the process, but I don't see them just randomly, I don't know, coming with the nigga now.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: Do you have a number where I told him, let's do it.
[00:42:53] Speaker C: I did tell him that.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: You told him a number?
[00:42:55] Speaker C: Hell, yeah.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: What's the number?
[00:42:56] Speaker C: And I said. Cause they came with a number. I'm like, man, I'm not doing no shit like that. I said, unless they got them, they come like this. You gotta come like this with me, and you gotta pay me. Like, y'all paying these motherfuckers to see me fight?
[00:43:07] Speaker A: Yeah, like, well, we've seen you fight.
[00:43:09] Speaker C: No, but I'm saying, like, professor, like, what I'm saying is, like. And I don't even like fighting.
I don't even like fighting. Like, I much rather. You take too much of a chance to lose and fight.
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Yeah. You throw your bodyguard in the field. That's a big nigga.
[00:43:24] Speaker C: Yes. That's on him. He out there. They need to offer him. They need to send him a contract. Yeah, he out there somewhere. Okay. I want to see you. Go get him. Go get him. Yeah, bring him in.
I done got excited. Go bring Kane in. He be here in a minute.
[00:43:41] Speaker A: He here.
[00:43:42] Speaker C: But now, when it comes to that, like, I know the type of.
Type of draw that I have. Like, I know that. So it's like, I ain't even gonna play like that. And not only that, like, I know, you know, I know how it can affect, like, okay, what I would rather do. I know, you know. Yeah. I might go out there and get my ass knocked out cold. So, boy, I better goddamn be guaranteed some. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I'm not gonna take no fight. I ain't winning. I don't do that.
[00:44:07] Speaker A: How do you pop your ass so if you weren't, hypothetically speaking, if you did agree to it, they came with what you asked for, and you did agree to it, and you did lose, how would you be? Like, okay with, like, you get up, shake the name.
[00:44:19] Speaker C: I went to the car, get my gun. I'm fucking with you.
But no, but that's what I'm saying. Like, that's why it's like, I'm not gonna. You can't say that I'm nothing. I can because I ain't finna agree to doing this shit. Like, I don't like to fight. Ain't no way you finna whoop my ass in front of my daughter.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Crazy as hell.
[00:44:36] Speaker C: Somebody dying.
Somebody dying, she gonna know she ain't finna. She ain't finna remember, damn, my daddy got his ass. She gonna say, that nigga put his hands on my daddy.
[00:44:45] Speaker B: My daddy only take the fight if you know you winning.
[00:44:47] Speaker C: Huh?
[00:44:48] Speaker B: You will only take the fight if.
[00:44:49] Speaker C: You know you win 100%.
[00:44:50] Speaker A: But, bro, you agreed to the fight.
[00:44:53] Speaker C: I'm agree to it if I know I'm a win.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: No, but what I'm saying is, you.
[00:44:56] Speaker B: Know what's on the table.
[00:44:57] Speaker C: You packing a nigga ass up.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: You. But listen, this is what you agreed. You agreed.
[00:45:00] Speaker C: You agreed to take the training and everything.
[00:45:02] Speaker A: You agreed to for the money. You agreed to fight. Who you gonna fight? And I lose. So you just gotta take your l. I see.
[00:45:09] Speaker C: I don't got the stomach for that.
[00:45:11] Speaker A: There he is.
[00:45:14] Speaker C: He was talking about, like, people offering.
[00:45:16] Speaker A: Me this Gina view.
[00:45:19] Speaker C: Stand up next to him.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Just stand next to Gina views.
[00:45:22] Speaker C: But, yeah, he's asking me about a celebrity boxing match, what I be open and doing. And I told him, nah. And she said, I need to throw you in there.
I say, he here. No, that high.
You already know what I be doing.
You already know you can't fuck with me. But anyway, we can figure it out.
[00:45:39] Speaker A: We can figure it out.
[00:45:41] Speaker C: We can figure it out.
[00:45:44] Speaker A: Figuring out it's crazy.
[00:45:45] Speaker C: You need that. We in LA. We from LA. He need that. If you need that when the cameras go off. Yeah, if you need that, we can do that.
[00:45:52] Speaker A: Mean want to fight.
[00:45:53] Speaker C: We can do that.
[00:45:54] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:45:55] Speaker C: We can figure that out.
[00:45:55] Speaker A: You just stand next to Gina, right, for the rest of this.
[00:45:57] Speaker C: But yeah, nah, she said, oh, he here. I say, yeah, actually, you can ask him. He out there.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: I was hiding. So what's going on?
[00:46:03] Speaker C: I just wanted to introduce you to her. That's all.
[00:46:09] Speaker A: Right.
[00:46:09] Speaker C: I just wanted you to meet her. I told her you was here, that's all.
[00:46:16] Speaker A: I. Gene, let me see what's going on with you.
[00:46:23] Speaker C: All right, I'll see you in a minute, bro.
Let me know in the future you have any problems with him, I'm the one to call. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
[00:46:33] Speaker A: Tell him about that.
[00:46:33] Speaker C: Get that nigga together.
The yo yo.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: That's for show a yo yo.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: What's the yo yo yo is? Yeah, so we were talking about Chris Brown doing these meet and greets. I know you finna go on the road, you gotta do meet and greets.
[00:46:46] Speaker C: I know you mean I was doing them.
[00:46:47] Speaker A: I already know my meet and greet.
[00:46:49] Speaker C: It was along the lines of that it was, you know, a lot of motherfuckers got them pictures from 2019, 2020.
[00:46:55] Speaker A: We were talking about Chris Brown's meet and greets on the radio, and she was saying that she would be a yo yo. And you explain what that means?
[00:47:04] Speaker B: No. Cause he's still in the room.
[00:47:05] Speaker A: He not in the room.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: He in that room. He can hear me.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: He can't hear you.
[00:47:08] Speaker C: Hey, step out real quick.
Real quick.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: He can't hear you.
[00:47:12] Speaker C: You cut it. Go ahead. Yeah, he cut it.
[00:47:14] Speaker B: I don't trust avery.
[00:47:16] Speaker C: The nigga winked his eye soon as I said he cut it.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: Basically, she said. She said something. I don't know how to describe it, but she says, I want to be a yo yo. And I don't know what the fuck that is.
[00:47:24] Speaker C: Like, the nigga heard you, like.
[00:47:25] Speaker A: No, no, no. She mean, like, spin around like a yo yo on the person. On the person. Just look at how perplexed do it.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: Look like I say some shit like that.
[00:47:40] Speaker C: You said it. I saw you.
I ain't hear about this shit. I just saw you say. I'm trying to understand what you. You said that's for show a yo yo. So what you mean, like. Like, spin around? I'm trying to paint the picture.
Anyway, that's a new shit. I ain't never did. I never did the yo yo.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: That's that tweet.
[00:48:03] Speaker C: Yeah, that's some new shit.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: I have a way to change I subject.
[00:48:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:09] Speaker B: I would like to give you your flowers on the visuals.
[00:48:11] Speaker C: I appreciate that.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: The music videos, even if.
[00:48:15] Speaker C: Hey, man, now you're stepping out of line.
Is it something this? Is it. Is it appropriate to. Goddamn.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: I'll show it to you in a minute. I'll show it to you.
[00:48:28] Speaker C: Is it appropriate? Is it.
[00:48:29] Speaker A: This is very inappropriate.
[00:48:30] Speaker B: I got so called fashion, so any. Yeah, nothing is off limits.
[00:48:34] Speaker C: All right.
[00:48:35] Speaker B: But I'm just like, okay, bet.
[00:48:37] Speaker C: Yeah. You in your other spot right now. Okay. Gotcha.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: Um.
[00:48:42] Speaker C: You should bring that nigga on there if you think that might be dope. You should bring him on there.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: That might be dope.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: He can't come to my house.
[00:48:47] Speaker C: Got it.
[00:48:47] Speaker A: She shoot at her house. Okay.
[00:48:48] Speaker C: All right. Say less. I'm gonna mind my fucking business now. Now I'm out your business. But the visuals. Yeah.
How do we get.
[00:48:58] Speaker B: All I asked, all I said was throw your body card in the ring.
[00:49:02] Speaker C: How we get here? Now?
[00:49:03] Speaker B: Y'all done fucked me up.
Nigga done walked in, stood behind me, and held my hand for 30.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: Look at me, and they're blushing.
[00:49:14] Speaker A: Ask your question.
[00:49:16] Speaker B: So storylines and creativity and music videos is sort of like a lost art with the newer era. If you think back to what Missy Elliott was doing or Murder, Inc. They gave us real music videos. Is there any busta rhymes?
[00:49:30] Speaker C: The list goes on.
[00:49:32] Speaker B: Is there any intention, when you do your videos, to be creative like that?
[00:49:35] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. Like, I mean, not only was that the type, shit like that, I grew up watching, you know what I'm saying, the greats before me do, but I also got so much going on in this head of mine, you get what I'm saying? Where it's like, you know, I get to create these different worlds and still have my music be the soundtrack of it, and, you know, just tap into different spaces creatively and shit. And that's, like, where I have my fun at, you know what I mean? It's definitely intention when it come to that. Like, however. So make me feel or whatever world, you know, however I want the audience to perceive it or whatever. Like, I love to try to bring it out as much as I can with the visual. For sure. For sure.
[00:50:10] Speaker B: How much is you and then, or do you, like, have a creative team?
[00:50:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it'd be. It'd be more of me than anything. For real. For real. Definitely got, you know what I mean? Definitely got a team of people that, like, you know what I'm saying? That I lean on to execute the ideas that I have. For sure. For sure. You know what I mean? And put them in motion. But, you know, all that's in house. You know what I'm saying? Artists in house.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: Any thoughts of, like, creative direct for other artists?
[00:50:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I done directed a few other artist videos and other artists hit me and shit. I'd just be having to have the time for that shit and find the time for it. And then, you know, like, artists would just have to understand, like, that type creativity. Like, you know, I invest my money into being that creative. You know what I mean? Like, I invest my money. That's something artists, anybody who admire, like, what I do visually, that probably need to be, like, the first thing that they understand about that. Like, I got the amount of confidence that I have in it and the passion I got for doing that shit. Like, you know, I put my money where my mouth is. You know, I done spent the dollars in acquiring that knowledge and knowing how to do that shit. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, they would just have to be understanding of that and have the same confidence in what they want and what they trying to create. And then we could do it. It's whatever, but that'll be what differentiate, like, the ones that I do. You know, find time to do it, whatever. Cause I ain't, at the end of the day, like, I ain't trying to make, you know, no couple thousand off goddamn directing no nigga video. Like that shit. That shit take too much time. You know what I'm saying? Like, I can make way more. Yeah. Doing a verse and being done with that shit in ten minutes. You ain't gonna do no video in ten minutes.
[00:51:40] Speaker B: I would love to see, though, later along, like, the line, like, when you older and you probably done with music and stuff, that you do your own production. Cause your videos are, like, out of this world.
[00:51:48] Speaker C: So I started a production company, like, off the rip, you know, I'm saying, like, so I already got all that shit. Like, the same cameras. I got arri cameras. I own camera. Yeah, I got signature prime lenses. I got one of the lenses I got every time I pop out, like, on the set with it, with people that do that shit for real, it blow they mind. Cause it's like. It's like, only a certain amount of them in the world type shit. Like, but I. I've been invested, you know, I'm saying, like, my own bread into that. And not only invested my bread into, like, the tools and equipment that's needed, but acquiring the knowledge, like, I paid for that game. You get what I'm saying? Like, I did exactly what I wanted to do. Okay. I want to do it this way, but I'm paying attention every step of the way. The pre production, you get what I'm saying? Okay. Like, what we doing right here? With the light and what we doing with this? What we doing with that? And I ask questions, you know what I'm saying? I'm really like that with anything that I got damn gravitate towards that. I take a liking to like. I soak up as much game as possible. I ask as many questions as I can. It only take me for to see something, you know what I'm saying? That I like one time. You know what I mean? And if I'm around a motherfucker that'll tell me how I'm going to ask. And if I ain't, I'm going to figure it out on my own and then put my spin on whatever it is and make it mine.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: When it comes to your accolades, and I'm not going to ask you to comment on this. I just want to tell you some shit that I've said publicly. Okay. So I always give you more props than I give other people because you have achieved more success than them with numbers wise, but you also have done it with less resources than I looked at, then I look at other people. Right. So I've gotten two comparisons from you. One is the only one I care about, which is Lil baby. Right. And Lil Baby doesn't have any number one records.
His highest record is number two, and that's with Drake on it. It's the Drake stimulus. Right. You have a number one record with Roddy Rockstar. Number one on Billboard, hot 100. Right.
The reason why I'm telling you this is because I look at your success as bigger, not because of the numbers, but also because I think you have less favor than other people have had when it comes to industry and the media and the attention and shit like that. Like, to me, you've done more with less is what I'm saying. Right.
[00:53:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: The second part of that is when it comes to these award shows and stuff, I don't see you being rewarded in the same way. Your accolades don't line up with what you've been given, in my humble opinion. So you've been nominated for Grammy, I think, eight times, and they haven't given you one.
[00:54:11] Speaker C: And I lock star when I was supposed to. Yeah, that was. That was ours for sure.
[00:54:16] Speaker A: And so I look at it like, same thing with Hov. Jay Z in the same boat. Damn near. Right, right. So anyway, I'm just saying that when you look at the accolades, the war show, do you care about shit like that or is it just about the money and the catalog at this point?
[00:54:29] Speaker C: I mean, when it come down to, like, the awards and shit, really, you know, and this not the, like this, I mean, I didn't really, when it comes to the charts, I didn't did. Mm hmm.
Achieved the highest, the highest award with that shit, you know what I'm saying? With the top streaming song, the highest charting song of the year, 2020. Top streaming. I was the top streaming rap artist, period, in the whole world. You know what I mean? 2020.
When it come to the, I mean, the Grammys, at the end of the day, and it's not to discredit them at all. Like, I would love a little Grammy trophy or whatever, but the bet award that I won for, like, best new artists, that was like, my Grammy from where I'm from, you get what I'm saying? Like, we grew up watching that.
I ain't never watched the Grammys.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: I appreciate you saying that, because I look at a lot of us, you know what I mean? We discredit our own people.
[00:55:17] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. And then give and give the other motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying? And see, that be where, like, see, that's where you fuck up. Like, when I got to caring about this shit that didn't care for me, that's where I fucked up. And I, you know, and I make it a point that, like, I'm not on that disco round. Like, I'm not even going for it for a second. Like, I don't care about that shit anywhere where I'm going, where if I gotta explain my value at this point or what I do, like, that ain't the place for me. It's simple. You know what I'm saying? Like, my mother don't know what I could do. Don't know. It's simple. But, you know, when it come to awards, like, of course you want to be recognized. This goddamn is the best in whatever it is that you got them. Love doing whatever it is you're doing. But I came in and took my flowers early. I came, took my flowers first year, I got trophies for days at the crib, plaques, you know what I'm saying? And like I said, even when it come to, like, the charts and the billboards, like, I done been on, you, you had to go through me at a certain point to even get on that shit.
It's latin artists, this. You know what I'm saying? It could be an artist I ain't never heard of from a different country over here, from over here. Like, I'm not even knowing these motherfuckers until now. You need to do this one, you need to do this one. I don't like it. Oh, no, I'm telling you, telling you, I still won't do it. I bullshit. I be in the studio. The n know I'm in the studio. Send it to me. Send it to the engineer or some shit they play. I'm like, all right, I do the song, but it's massive. Even now. You get what I'm saying? Like, I can perform this shit now, and I can go in front of this crowd full of white people. I can go over here. I done been all over the world, you know what I'm saying? And they know word for word. Like, I can go anywhere and tap into just my catalog alone. Nothing that I've dropped within the last three years, and perform a 60 minutes show SET. A lot of n'T do that to this day. That people still, that are probably recognized as being definitely a hotter artist than me right now, or that some people might measure their success in a different way. So I think in terms of, like, how motherfuckers measure success, like, to answer that part of the question, like that shit subjective. Like, that's, you know, that to each his own when it come to that. Like, I don't, you know, I ain't playing a number game and saying that I didn't have much success than a motherfucker that who ain't have to navigate through none of that shit. None of them factors matter. I think everybody journey within itself. It is what it is. But my success is measured off of where I started and where I didn't got to, you get what I'm saying? And all the shit in between that affects it this way and that way. I let that, you know, I let those be factors that got them that be, like, components to where I would, like, judge my success or lower. Like how, you know what I mean? How I'm perceiving my success or increase it, but never what another n doing, man. Because don't nobody got the same, you know, the same cards.
Ain't nobody dealt the same cards.
[00:58:08] Speaker A: I got two more. Oh, go ahead.
[00:58:09] Speaker B: I was gonna say, you spoke on it, on giving me a reason. Was there anything like compromising a label or.
[00:58:16] Speaker C: Compromising what?
[00:58:17] Speaker B: Like you talked about, you said, had I sold my soul, then I'd be on the charts. So I don't want to butcher your lyrics.
[00:58:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, I mean, we all know goddamn what goddamn threw me off my rocker. Yeah, we all know. You know what I'm saying? Anybody don't know that. That ain't somebody I need to be paying attention to anyway. They ain't keeping it real, and no need for me to keep it real with them. That's just somebody that, you know. That's somebody that would just rather see you doing, you know, less. But other than that, though. Yeah. Like, it ain't. Yeah, for sure.
[00:58:50] Speaker A: So the one critic, not criticism, the one thing that I always.
[00:58:55] Speaker C: I wouldn't blame it on the label. My bad not to, because I want to just answer that question through and through, and I just leave it so, like, open ended. But I wouldn't blame it on the label because, shit, they. It fucked up the money they was making off me. You get what I'm saying? So I can't see. No, I'm just saying. I'm just answering your question through and through rather than kind of giving you, like, a vague answer, you know what I mean? But, yeah.
[00:59:17] Speaker A: Oh, I was gonna say the one thing that some, I think Elliot Wilson asked me about you, and I said, man, the one thing I think that you would benefit from is having a cohesive, like, overarching, like, production. Like, produced, like, through and through.
[00:59:33] Speaker C: Absolute.
[00:59:34] Speaker A: One solid thing.
[00:59:34] Speaker C: Right.
[00:59:35] Speaker A: But I don't think it's somebody. I don't think it's, like, a young producer. You don't mean like a metro or. No, I think. And this is me being. I'm just putting it in the ether because I just wanted to. I'm trying to manifest. Yeah, but I noticed that your relationship with 50 is. Is good.
[00:59:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:49] Speaker A: And fifty's always been embracing of you from the jump. And then also when it wasn't cool to be in the. When I met him, he was in the baby.
[00:59:57] Speaker C: I met him a week before then, so he had every reason in the world to stay away from that nigga. That a nigga. Facts.
[01:00:02] Speaker A: And fifth is, I look at you in the same light that I look at him, and, you know, y'all do.
[01:00:07] Speaker B: Remind me of each other.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: Been solid the whole time. Like, fifth is one of the people who, to this day, is like, it's solid. Like, every time you talk to him, whatever I want, I'm gonna just throw my desire into the world. I would like for 50 to oversee an album for the baby. Like, kind of like how he did for pop smoke, because I think that y'all are damn near the same caliber of person where he can relate to you, where you come from, and what you've been through, your trials, tribulations, but then also craft that in a way that make it palatable for the world. To consume.
[01:00:41] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[01:00:42] Speaker A: And I think it would take it to another level. That's just me throwing it out there.
[01:00:45] Speaker C: That's a hell of an idea. That ain't even something out of me.
[01:00:48] Speaker A: Like an EP. Like a. Like, let him, like, you can do what you doing, but let him oversee the album, officer, and EP the album. I think it would change shit.
[01:00:56] Speaker C: I agree.
[01:00:58] Speaker A: All right.
[01:00:58] Speaker C: The thing is, then they gonna have to find a time to do it. That nigga hustle like he trying to make it out the hood.
I be like, bro, you make me feel like I ain't got. Then I'm a hustling motherfucker. When you could make me feel like, damn, I could. I need to go harder. Yeah, you. You a bad motherfucker.
[01:01:15] Speaker B: Speaking of 50, he posted a video of you. What you do with all that oil and why you didn't bring me nothing?
[01:01:22] Speaker C: I was being a director, so, you know, you was talking about you gave my flowers for the music video. That's why you give them to me. Man, I was just directing the video, just bringing the props on set. I ain't had nothing to do with that.
[01:01:31] Speaker B: What video was y'all doing?
[01:01:33] Speaker C: It was for. It was for another artist.
[01:01:35] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[01:01:36] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: So that's gonna be crazy.
[01:01:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, I just did my part. I can't control when somebody filmed you. See, I'm looking around, like, trying to make sure nobody record me. It was a motherfucker right here. Record me in the video. You get what I'm saying? Oh, you didn't even watch yourself? Hell, no, I ain't. That wasn't. Hey, I'm act like. Goddamn, I'm about to act like I'm sneaking with this baby. No, I'm really bringing the baby oil upset to give to the talent.
Goddamn. Make sure nobody got nothing watching me. Like, what this nigga doing with all this shit, right? I. The timing just bad for me to just have a bag full of baby oil. It's just bad timing for that. I ain't, you know, wanna be involved with none of that.
[01:02:14] Speaker B: Define Hollywood freak.
[01:02:16] Speaker C: No, Hollywood freak.
I think it explains itself.
[01:02:21] Speaker B: I think we in Hollywood.
[01:02:22] Speaker C: Yeah. That's where they at. Mm hmm. Think it explains itself. You know what I'm saying? Okay, what you wanna know?
[01:02:30] Speaker B: Experience.
[01:02:31] Speaker C: I know a little Hollywood freak. Oh, you want me to tell you about an experience?
[01:02:33] Speaker B: I just want you. No, you don't even gotta tell me an experience. Cause we ain't on ho fetches. But you can just defined Hollywood freak. Like when you look at a bitch how, you know, like, that's a Hollywood freak right there.
[01:02:45] Speaker C: I don't really got eyes for them type of hoes to keep it real, so I wouldn't even. I don't even look for that. I look away from that at this point. You get what I'm saying? But I do know one or two. I don't change the fact that I know one or two, you know what I'm saying? But it's. I think it's.
I think it's more so, like, along the lines of, you know, and really Hollywood freak, you know. I'm glad you asked me to break this shit down because it could be perceived as, like, whatever. Like something negative. But one thing about me, right? Let me, let me, you know one thing about me, like, I respect a motherfucker who is. Who is, you know, authentic and, you know, comfortable with they self and up front and forward about, you know, what they want. Like a female. You get what I'm saying? So, yeah, like, you know, I got respect for, like, females that, like, like, if you gonna be a ho, like, be a ho. Like, make that shit club.
[01:03:35] Speaker B: Don't hide it. Yeah, divide it.
[01:03:37] Speaker C: Yeah. They get respect for me. Now, you gang, you good with me. You know what I'm saying? So it's more so that, that's more so, like, giving the flowers to motherfuckers that, like, you know. Yeah. Giving the appreciation, giving them something to vibe to something they can call theirs and, you know, shed more of a positive light on them, making them feel sexy. More so than, you know, use the, like an item, just, like, letting them type females know. Like, you know, a nigga like me got respect for a female that's honest about, you know what I'm saying? What she got going on. Yeah, yeah. You know, and maybe, you know, maybe somewhere our paths might align and we can, you know, freaks together figure it out.
[01:04:15] Speaker A: We figure it out.
[01:04:16] Speaker C: We can figure it out in whatever capacity.
[01:04:18] Speaker A: I'm gonna start saying that, right?
[01:04:20] Speaker C: I might, you know, figure it out.
You might, like, like, my partner or somebody. I see you. See me. Whatever. I might could do that for you or whatever have we, you know, it's.
[01:04:30] Speaker A: Whatever da baby cares.
[01:04:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:04:33] Speaker A: I really was dope. It was dope for me to see you do this because I know you on your own battles with, you know, everything you've been through, your trauma and stuff like that, dealing with your loved ones or whatnot. What was the main thing that made you want to, like, envision, pour into other people's mental health? I mean, you haven't. I saw you talk to Charlemagne about it, where you haven't really done the work on yourself yet. So what made you want to give back to other people in that way?
[01:04:56] Speaker C: The small amount of work or just attention that I didn't pay to, you know, me needing to address that, like, mental health issues or whatever, or the, like, trauma or whatever with myself, the small amount of work. Cause I didn't. Did, you know I was more so talking, like, along the lines of just therapy. I ain't started that yet. That's how I want to start. But, yeah, like, when I actually give myself time to pay attention to these things and address them rather than tuck them under the rug or go around them or whatever, like, when I see the impact that it has on me immediately, like, how quickly it put me in so much of a better space, it's like, you know, I know, I know with me and the resources I got and the platform that I got, I know what I can. The type of life I can speak into somebody else who probably needed way more than me. I'm not going through the shit I'm going through, but don't know how I'm gonna feed myself tomorrow or goddamn. Gotta go back to a place. Like, I can get away from shit. You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't gotta. You know, it's a kid going through it that don't got nothing. He gotta go back home to that parent that's gonna abuse him, you know what I'm saying? Whether it be goddamn emotionally, you know what I'm saying? Or spiritually, like, just beat him down as a person or physically, you get what I'm saying? Like, it's motherfuckers that's really going through real life out here, you know what I mean? And if if I can use my platform and. And, you know, a lot, help myself heal at the same time, you get what I'm saying? And kind of go on. Go on my journey and healing myself from this position that I'm in and help people that ain't who, you know, who look at the position I'm in. It's something that they would dream of, like, you know what I mean? And that's another thing with me. Like, when it comes to being vulnerable, when it comes to expressing, like, expressing, like, you know, like, the way I feel about shit I'd have been through.
I'm such a selfless person that, like, I feel like it's disrespectful to motherfuckers who got it worse. Like I ain't, you know, like. And that's why it's like, it's a. It's a no fly zone when I see it prayed on or played with. You get what I'm saying? Cause it's like, I know it's motherfuckers that got it worse. Like, I lost my brother, my nieces, my nephew. They lost their daddy. You get what I'm saying? So it's a difference, like, you know, and they, they strong as ever, you know. They really the one. They was like the first ones that kind of helped me cope with it. Cause they holding it down, they strong, they keeping it together, you know what I'm saying? So what the fuck I look like being out this bitch? Acting like, you know what I'm saying? Like, ugh, falling down and shit. Nah, hell nah. Like, hell no.
We gotta be strong for each other in that sense. And that's a lot of people real life situation, you know, all they might have is they self. So if I can, you know, tell my story, shed light on it, and inspire motherfucker to want more, you know what I mean? For they self, while letting them know situations I done navigated through and where I feel like, boom, 10, 15, 20 years ago, when I was your age or whatever, if I would have had a me or had somebody to come boom, if I could have just saw somebody, you know what I'm saying? That I'd have admired in any capacity that I admire something that they got going on. I don't gotta admire everything motherfucker got going on. That's one thing I always been good at since a little boy. Like, you know, like I say, I acquire many characteristics and tendencies from a lot of different places. But one thing I always knew was the type of motherfucker I wasn't gonna be like, yeah, I might like this uncle right here. I might love this nigga to death. You get what I'm saying? Like, it's my favorite uncle. I like these things about him. I like a sense of humor. I like, you know, how he don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying? He don't speak his mind, whatever. But ain't no way I'm finna be, you get what I'm saying? Nah, ain't no way I'm finna do this and do that. You know, just giving these kids an example is something to look at rather than this shit that's just pumped into their head. 24 7365. And giving them, you know, somebody that they done already connected with, if it's through music, music videos, whatever TikTok they may have connected with me through there being on the stream or might hear me on here, right? Connect with me through what we doing right now, okay. Boom. But they still. And they connect with me. They hear what I'm saying, but I can still pop up. They see me in the flesh and they goddamn, boom. See me provide. They'll take that advice from me and go back to what I was saying. Like, they'll probably take that advice from me quicker than they'll take it from somebody preaching it at the school or somebody who they feel like it ain't been verified, that they didn't, you know, had to walk that life, that they didn't have to walk. Cause it's just like with me, like, I'm not receptive of, you know, sympathy that comes from a place to where ain't no way. You goddamn, like, I'm not Finna. You can't tell me. I know, I know. I know how you feel. You can't tell me that if you don't know how I feel. Like, I don't even wanna hear that shit. You know what I'm saying? It's, like, disrespectful to me. You get what I'm saying? And disrespectful to others that I got all the love in the world for. So that's the way I try to navigate through that shit and moving forward with doing that shit. We have an opportunity. It's something I've been wanting to do. But like I say, I had to start with myself, you know what I'm saying? In whatever capacity that I did. But being in a place to where, okay, boom, I could do that shit on a larger scale and impact as many people as possible. You know what I'm saying? And at the same time, help my goddamn self is something I'm super excited about, man.
[01:09:59] Speaker A: And really, that's dope, man. I'm happy for you.
[01:10:01] Speaker C: Appreciate you.
[01:10:03] Speaker A: Go ahead, go ahead.
[01:10:04] Speaker B: I was gonna say, I would hate to transition into some bullshit.
[01:10:07] Speaker A: Oh, she wanna do her card.
[01:10:10] Speaker B: You wanna play a game?
[01:10:11] Speaker C: I wanna play some bullshit.
[01:10:13] Speaker A: No, you play. No, this is.
[01:10:15] Speaker B: She gotta read the card.
[01:10:16] Speaker C: Oh, she's.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: She got two cards. Go ahead.
[01:10:19] Speaker B: You got a head scratcher.
[01:10:20] Speaker C: Do your thing.
[01:10:21] Speaker A: No, go ahead.
[01:10:21] Speaker B: Okay, so I have a show called whole fashions, where rappers allow me to dig deep, deep, deep in their business.
[01:10:28] Speaker C: That's what they do.
[01:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah. This is the segment on the show, okay. It's called spit or swallow. I have two cards in my hand. One card.
[01:10:36] Speaker C: I can give you the answer to that.
[01:10:41] Speaker B: It's not what it sound like.
[01:10:42] Speaker C: Okay, go ahead.
[01:10:43] Speaker B: One card says spit, the other card says swallow. If you pick the card that says spit, you got to spit. A freestyle. If you pick the card that says swallow.
If you pick the card, it's a play on the rap shit. Cause I love rap.
[01:10:54] Speaker C: You know?
[01:10:55] Speaker B: If you pick the card that says swallow. You gotta let me search your phone for the word swallow.
[01:10:59] Speaker C: Hell, no.
Hell, no.
We might as well not even play that. I'm gonna bring you somebody that'll play that with you. I can't play them type of game. Lord have mer. That's a goddamn lose lose. Either one you got. God. Nigga gonna be like, let me just rap. Let me just rap. Goddamn. Put a beat on. Goddamn your game, stiff. You only got two cards. Two.
[01:11:22] Speaker A: You ain't.
[01:11:23] Speaker C: Bullshit. That's a setup.
[01:11:24] Speaker B: You wanna just pick one? Just see which one.
[01:11:26] Speaker C: You ain't going through my phone.
[01:11:29] Speaker B: Just pick. You might pick spit.
[01:11:32] Speaker C: I ain't really.
[01:11:35] Speaker B: You ain't rapping?
[01:11:35] Speaker C: What you want me to rap? Like a cappella or some shit? What you want me to do?
[01:11:38] Speaker B: Whatever you comfortable with. I love making niggas rapid.
[01:11:42] Speaker C: Do you do this show outside of this show or that's a segment?
[01:11:45] Speaker A: No, she do a show outside.
[01:11:46] Speaker B: I have a whole show called whole fashions.
[01:11:47] Speaker C: I'm gonna come to whole fashions.
[01:11:48] Speaker B: You'll pull up?
[01:11:49] Speaker C: I'll pull up. But you can't go through my phone. You can. I'm gonna pull up. I'm gonna come with the burner phone. Fuck you talking about?
[01:11:55] Speaker B: That's what niggas been doing.
[01:11:56] Speaker C: Yeah, uh huh.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: Niggas come to her show with the burner phone. This a flip.
[01:12:00] Speaker B: When you was at the pop out, I went through everybody phone backstage.
[01:12:05] Speaker C: But type, they fuck with you like that.
[01:12:07] Speaker A: This is a real thing. It's a real show. Like, people fuck with it. All right, but what you do with the information?
[01:12:14] Speaker B: Nothing. It's just for the. For the clip move half the time.
[01:12:17] Speaker C: Reading it out loud.
[01:12:19] Speaker B: I don't like playing with people, relationships. So when niggas be in relationships, like, I might look at some shit and I might fake react like, oh, you know. But I don't be trying to, like, fuck people up.
[01:12:29] Speaker A: Blow her spot.
[01:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I won't blow nobody cover.
[01:12:31] Speaker C: Okay, we figure it out.
[01:12:36] Speaker B: Don't leave LA without pulling up.
[01:12:39] Speaker C: I'm gonna check the schedule.
[01:12:40] Speaker B: You wanted to see.
[01:12:43] Speaker C: Check the schedule, bro.
[01:12:45] Speaker B: He wanted up.
[01:12:46] Speaker C: I'ma hit you, I'ma hit you. I'm a thousand percent one of them hit you.
[01:12:51] Speaker B: I see what I can do.
[01:12:52] Speaker C: You don't got my number, Brian. No, nigga, they saying that to the back of my head. I'm already out the door.
Hello, for sure. Now we can figure it out, though. You know I ain't mad at that.
[01:13:03] Speaker A: I appreciate you, bro.
[01:13:05] Speaker C: I appreciate y'all having this.
[01:13:06] Speaker A: I want to end it in the same way. Like, I really appreciate what you stand on. I really appreciate. I mean, me and G, you know, me and him be riding the bike, just getting some exercise. And I'll be telling them, like, I really appreciate what you bring to it. I appreciate it because it's real and it's a lot of fagaze shit out there for sure. You know what I'm saying? So I just wanted to say that publicly.
[01:13:25] Speaker C: I appreciate you because I try to keep it that way. It's hard work. I already know you get what I'm saying. Keeping it that way, for sure. But it's even more expensive when you know that's what you really stand and you step outside of that and go a different direction, it costs you way more than it costs you to be yourself and be authentic. 1000%. And if I can give a nigga any amount of advice, like, that's what I tell him, like, be you. Especially if you get to a place that you want to get to by being you. Why the fuck would you. Don't fix what ain't broke. You get what I'm saying? Don't fix what ain't broke. Get put in a position where, okay, you forced to fix something before you try to cause me. Like, you know, I feel like when I feel myself back against the wall, put in a position where, okay, now I gotta fix something is really just fixing the shit that I change from, like, what I would rather, you know what I'm saying, be doing in the first place. So if you could skip that bullshit, you know, learn from my experiences and goddamn. Yeah, but I do. I appreciate you, and I do. I see different shit, you know what I'm saying? 24/7 are you somebody I keep up with anyway, fan of what you do? So, you know, I definitely appreciate you, you know, holding a nigga down and seeing, and seeing me for what I am, you know what I'm saying? As opposed to what I'm perceived to be word for show.
[01:14:31] Speaker A: Well, Dababy is here immediately, effective immediately.
[01:14:34] Speaker C: Motherfucker. Like right now. Like yesterday.
[01:14:37] Speaker A: It's the baby.
[01:14:38] Speaker C: Yes, sir.
