Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, Hip Hop Nation? It's your favorite homegirl, Gina Views.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: We got some legends in the building today, man. I've been waiting a long time for this. To have all of y'all at one time. Pause.
That was crazy.
[00:00:20] Speaker C: What a way to start.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Hey, my brothers is here, man. The legendary PJ Drama.
[00:00:26] Speaker C: Yes, sir. What's cracking, Don Kenny? What's up, Gina?
[00:00:29] Speaker A: Lake Sheezy, my boy. And of course, Kai Cash is here.
[00:00:32] Speaker D: Of course.
[00:00:32] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: Yes, sir.
[00:00:33] Speaker D: I got.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I got them here, everybody. You got them here?
[00:00:37] Speaker D: Got them here.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: Appreciate you for having these pull up, you know what I'm saying? Thank y'all for coming through. Y'all been in LA running amok.
[00:00:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Only thing to do here, bro. So what's interesting about this. This conglomerate, right? You got a whole bunch of lineage here that we. We probably not even have time to get to, but we gonna. Goddamn. We're gonna try. You know what I'm saying? Kai Cash Wheat, obviously you the newest.
You are the newest on the scene. People are talking about you first and foremost.
These guys are my guys.
[00:01:09] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: What is it like for you being around these dudes 24 7? Is it a headache?
[00:01:16] Speaker D: Nah, no, no, it's fun. It's like, these niggas is big kids, bro, but they, like. They handle their business too, though, right?
[00:01:24] Speaker A: Right? No, the business gonna get done.
[00:01:26] Speaker D: It's just. I ain't gonna lie. We always have fun when we be on these runs. This is only our second run, so it's just like, I can't wait. I'd be happy as hell.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Did you know this? Did you know this prior to with Generation that?
[00:01:39] Speaker D: No, I had no idea.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Okay, so what'd you think it was gonna be like?
[00:01:42] Speaker C: Sorry.
[00:01:46] Speaker D: I didn't know. I thought. At first, I thought Ken was a dickhead.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: Yo, me too.
[00:01:52] Speaker C: So did I.
[00:01:55] Speaker E: You wanna know something?
[00:01:56] Speaker A: Nah.
[00:01:56] Speaker D: I'm gonna tell you why. It's full circle. Full circle. Life is crazy. I had sent in a. You know, it's wishful thinking. I had sent in a verse. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to get a Jack Harlow feature. We had some ties to DOC in it. I sent that shit in. That nigga was like, man, this shit is trash.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: Hey, respect, man.
[00:02:13] Speaker F: That's respect.
[00:02:14] Speaker D: You told me.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: Impressed. Me impressed.
[00:02:16] Speaker D: He was like, nah, that shit was trash. But we here now. I was like, nah, no, you said the nigga we signed was trash in 2020. He's won.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Hey, look, let me tell you why I respect that one. Me and Canon align a lot on that. We're the same rhymes. Gonna fluff you a.
You know, it's crazy. Like, I ain't gonna host it, but it ain't bad. You know what I'm saying? Canon gonna be like, that shit's trash.
[00:02:38] Speaker D: I know it was that song. Then they was like, yeah, nah, that's not the one.
I know I don't get a second chance.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: What made. What made it trash?
[00:02:44] Speaker C: I don't know, man.
[00:02:45] Speaker F: You know what? I just probably was being on some critical shit. Just like, I'm. You know, that's what I'm on. I'll be on critical shit sometimes.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: When you listen to it now, do you know what he's talking about?
[00:02:53] Speaker F: Yeah, but I be. I do this all the time. Like, we'll be in the studio. I'll be like, he do that so and so better than you. He'd be like, yo, what?
[00:03:00] Speaker D: He'll really walk in, Nigga, this shit is trash.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: Try to convince a nigga to crash out on a verse.
[00:03:04] Speaker F: Yes, that part. You know what I mean?
[00:03:06] Speaker B: Do you still think it's hard after he say it's trash?
[00:03:08] Speaker D: He think it's hard after he says.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: All right, you trolling.
[00:03:12] Speaker F: Sometimes I'll be like. I'll wait, like, 30 minutes, and I'll be like, nah, nah, that shit.
[00:03:16] Speaker B: How long did it take you to accept that, though? Like, it's not real. It's a troll.
[00:03:22] Speaker F: Sometimes he was like, yo, you serious? Or you just, like, you playing?
[00:03:25] Speaker D: I ain't gonna lie. Maybe a few. Maybe like a few months in, like, okay, this is how he joke around. Cause he keeps sending more beats. He keep dropping more beats off, so it can't be bad.
[00:03:34] Speaker F: That's facts.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: That's facts, man. The lineage of this label, bro, for people who don't know generation now, like, legendary Run. You know what I'm saying?
[00:03:41] Speaker C: Appreciate that.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: Lil Uzi Ver, Jack Harlow, Sonny Digital. Like Kai Cash, Lil Tyler, Karina Scheme, Shout out to the first legend, West Coast Columinati. The thing that was interesting about this to me is no artist is the same. And I remember talking to Lake one time, actually. Lake, what is the methodology to sign an artist to the label? What is the thought process? Because no artist is the same.
[00:04:11] Speaker E: Yeah. I think the foundation for us, I think it starts with skill set. So that's the first thing I think in this generation. I don't think that's necessarily what everybody leads with. Most people lead with analytics, so we lead with skill set. And that doesn't traditionally always lead you to the same type of artist. You know what I mean? So, like, if you can get past a country draw and hear the skill, you'll sign somebody from the South. If you can get past, you know, the gangster shit on the west coast and listen to the lyricism, you can find somebody from the West. So for us, I think the foundation starts with the actual ability. And then I think having a purpose and knowing where you going, I think those are, like, things that are super key to us. I think artists. I spoke about this earlier, but I think artists today kind of, like, throw stuff against the wall and see if it sticks. And I think the guys that work or the people that work actually have an idea or a plan of where they want to go before they even come into the room.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? That's real.
[00:05:00] Speaker E: So that's key for us.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: Whose idea was it to call it Generation Now? Cause I heard conflicting stories.
[00:05:07] Speaker F: Let's hear the story.
[00:05:08] Speaker C: I ain't heard none of the stories.
[00:05:10] Speaker A: What you mean?
Just tell me.
[00:05:13] Speaker C: After we tell you, then will you tell us stories?
[00:05:15] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:05:16] Speaker E: It was a mixtape title.
[00:05:17] Speaker C: So basically, we had.
Me and Cannon had. Went and got a. A very early Kanye west interview. Before College Dropout, he was on tour with Talib Kweli, and we were going to have him host the tape. And we actually had. We had College Dropout before anybody had it, because our homeboy Damian Lemon, a comedian, used to work at Vibe magazine. This is like a long story short. I'm a. I'm gonna speed it up. So then we. We had drops. Joe Button came through to do a freestyle when we. I think Pump it up was it out? Yeah, right when Pump it up was first getting hot. So basically when we had these early artists, Kanye Joe Button, they didn't really fit gangsta Grylls at the time. It's still early gangsta grills. But it wasn't, you know, I hadn't branched out. We hadn't branched out and did the Pharrells and the little brothers and things like that. Like, it was a very street orientated brand. So we needed a title for the mixtape. And I came up with Generation Now. So just randomly, randomly, just, you know, same way I came up with Gangster Girls. I was like, let's call it Generation Now. Again. I was like, oh, that's fire. So we started a series called Generation Now. The first one was like, Kanye Joe Button killing my. He was on the second stack.
[00:06:27] Speaker F: Quo. Corey Guns.
[00:06:28] Speaker C: Yeah, Corey Guns.
[00:06:29] Speaker A: So.
[00:06:30] Speaker C: So that. That was the initial. It started as a mixtape brand, coincidentally, like Gangster Grylls. And then later on, Cannon was a VP in a Def Jam. I had just got my A R job at Atlantic. And then, you know, through that process, Lil Uzi came across Cannon's ear and eyes. And then, you know, instead of me just A and R ing him and, like, handing him over to Atlantic, we wanted to sign him to us first and then go into the building. And then once we did that, we needed to start our production company, which then became our joint venture. We look up for a name. We didn't want to call it the Affiliates. We didn't want to call it Gangsta Grills. So he was like, how's Generation now sound? And everybody was like, yeah, that's it.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Are there.
[00:07:14] Speaker F: And we asked Kanye to do drops, Remember? I don't know if you remember this. We asked him to do the drops. He was like, yo, I can't do them. I'm a heavy hitter.
[00:07:20] Speaker C: Yeah, he. We wanted him.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: Oh, he thought it was a DJ crew.
[00:07:23] Speaker C: No, we wanted him to say certain. Something specific. Like, yo, these are the hottest DJs on the planet. The affiliates that. I was like, I can't say that I'm a heavy hitter. It was like, no doubt politics. He still did the jobs, though.
[00:07:33] Speaker F: Yeah, he did the job.
[00:07:35] Speaker C: Is that what you heard or no?
[00:07:36] Speaker A: No, I heard that because I remember the affiliates.
[00:07:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: And I remember that was like the thing. And I had heard that. I don't remember where I heard it from. I would say if I heard it. But I remember when the. The story that I heard was Generation now was just like, it was supposed to be a mixtape series like. Like Gangster Grills.
[00:07:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: And you ended up like, no, I'm going to use this for the label or something like that. Close.
[00:07:57] Speaker C: Yeah, so it's close.
[00:07:58] Speaker F: It was even against. He had. Against the girls. That was the Generation Now. Remember? That was the Killer Mike, right?
[00:08:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I had a Gangster Grills and it was.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: That's probably where it came from.
[00:08:05] Speaker C: I caught Gangster Grylls. And then it was as an. As a subtitle. It was Generation now edition. And that. That's the one Killer Mike hosted, so forth. But I've never said this publicly, but I will say there. There is an executive that early on came and before we started the label was like, yo, I'm thinking about starting my label. What are y'all doing with the Dame Generation Now? And I was like, nah, we using that. So it stuck in my head, and then I brought it back to the table, I guess.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Oh, so you was like, no, we using that. And then. But you wasn't using it yet.
[00:08:36] Speaker C: Not yet, but I knew it was still something.
[00:08:38] Speaker F: It's taking us a long time to figure out that name on the label. Yeah, it was taking us a long time to find a name for the label, and we was rushing. So he was like, yo, just name it. Whatever, bro. Just name whatever. We just did.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: You already did. Y'all was already signing Uzi before you even had Generation Now.
[00:08:54] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah, we was working on it. That's why we couldn't come up with a name to do paperwork.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: So you needed a name to do the paperwork.
[00:08:58] Speaker F: You know, we was like. He was like, yo, call Ken. I'm like, nah, hell no. I'm like, let's name that shit something. You know what I mean?
[00:09:03] Speaker B: What was some of the other that.
[00:09:04] Speaker E: Actually came to sign Scheme and T Fly before, Remember, before Uzi. And we didn't have a name then.
[00:09:09] Speaker F: At the time, we sure did.
[00:09:10] Speaker E: So we came. Oh, my bad. We came to sign Scheme and T Fly before that, before we had the name, before we even signed Uzi.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: So when you signed, when you are okay, what was the timetable? Cause you saying it was a hurry up thing. What was the timetable? Like, when you had Uzi, like, we finna sign him to the time when you got the name.
[00:09:26] Speaker F: About a year.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: So you was. Okay, they cut. No, I'm talking about a timeline from when, like, I got Uzi ready to sign. We need a name. What was that timeline for a day? Oh, word. Yeah.
[00:09:37] Speaker C: Probably at that moment, 24 hours. We had been working with Uzi and courting Uzi for some time, and he wasn't officially on paperwork. You know, it was clear that he was gonna sign to us, but, you know, then it was like, all right, it's time here. They're ready to hand you guys a check. We need to finish this up.
[00:09:52] Speaker A: Oh, shit. 24 hours.
[00:09:54] Speaker C: Crazy.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: I've always wondered, what are the internal conversations that labels have for these ch. Chains?
Y'all got some nice ass chains.
[00:10:03] Speaker E: Question, Ice Box. No, I'm just playing.
[00:10:08] Speaker C: Internal conversation. We design the logo. Design the logo, and then we take it. Then they show it to us on, like, paper. Like, not paper, like a PDF, Like Kanye said, like. And then, you know what I'm saying? We. We yes it. Yay it or nay it. And then, you know, it comes out. How it comes out?
[00:10:24] Speaker E: LA Jeweler actually did These.
[00:10:26] Speaker B: Oh, okay. This is not an ad. Don't shout out.
[00:10:28] Speaker C: Yeah, my guy, Saint.
[00:10:29] Speaker F: Stop.
[00:10:29] Speaker C: What?
[00:10:30] Speaker B: This is not an ad. Yeah, shout out Saint.
[00:10:33] Speaker E: Yeah, she funny.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: I just always wonder because, like majority of labels, y'all, you know, people have chains and stuff and y'all have some fly ass chains. Y'all might have one of the best out of the labels that is walking around with these chains.
[00:10:46] Speaker C: We appreciate that.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: Is that like part of the creating the label starter kit, though? Like you said, we need the name, we need the logo, we need the chains.
[00:10:53] Speaker C: I mean, since the 90s, I feel like it has been.
[00:10:55] Speaker E: Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah. Come with the territory.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: First one I saw was a cash money was like, that was the thing.
[00:11:00] Speaker C: No, Death Row.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: Oh, no. Death Row had.
[00:11:02] Speaker C: I feel like Death Row was also the west coast art, I would say so. I don't think before that there was. I think Death Row was the first like, official like, chain that. You know what I mean? People were proud to wear. Sorry, guy.
[00:11:14] Speaker D: What? I didn't even tell.
[00:11:15] Speaker C: Oh, no, I saw you shaking your head.
[00:11:16] Speaker D: Nah, dad said some shit.
[00:11:17] Speaker C: Oh, okay.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: Well, who do you think you.
[00:11:19] Speaker D: No, no, no. I agree.
[00:11:20] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Okay.
[00:11:24] Speaker F: He's heavy.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: East Coast.
[00:11:27] Speaker E: He just had to force his hand real quick.
[00:11:28] Speaker D: For sure, for.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: Well, speaking of that though, you did do okay. Google says it's 150 Gangster Girls projects.
[00:11:38] Speaker C: They're wrong.
[00:11:38] Speaker F: It's more than that.
[00:11:39] Speaker B: It's more than that.
[00:11:39] Speaker C: Way more than that.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: How many?
[00:11:42] Speaker C: Probably like 275, 300. There might be 150 classics.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Damn.
[00:11:47] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying?
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Talk to yourself.
[00:11:50] Speaker C: No, not a flex. I'm just speaking the truth.
You asked me a question.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: You gotta flex, though.
[00:11:56] Speaker C: I answered it. You know what I'm saying?
[00:11:57] Speaker B: This is show of flexes.
[00:11:58] Speaker C: It might be 150 classics. So it's a lot of. It's a lot of taste.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: What attracted you to you did one with RJ Tyler. Creator Simba.
[00:12:08] Speaker C: A lot of west coast names.
[00:12:09] Speaker B: Nipsey.
[00:12:10] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: What attracted you to those people?
[00:12:14] Speaker C: Their artistry. I mean, each one of them are like so individualistic. How do you say that word?
[00:12:21] Speaker E: Individualistic?
[00:12:24] Speaker C: You know, and these are all at different time periods too. Like, you know, again, like nip. I wound up running in the nip. Me and Lake wound up running in nip. Rest in peace. At a random night at Volcano.
And, you know, he was in there. We was in there and he was like, yo, I think it's that time. I'm ready. I got this idea to do this $100 mixtape. And I was like, let's get it. You know what I'm saying? So that became Crenshaw, and, you know, the rest is history.
RJ is. I've always thought RJ was super dope. You know what I'm saying?
[00:12:57] Speaker E: You spent a lot of time. We spent a lot of time down here, too. I'm from la, so we used to be here a lot.
[00:13:01] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:13:02] Speaker E: Cannon lived here for a long period of time. Like during the Supper Club Playhouse era.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah, we was here, Lake was outside.
[00:13:08] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a second home to us. Like, even in the clubs, like, we were, like, we were DJing, like, regularly, every weekend. You know what I'm saying here. So.
[00:13:16] Speaker B: So are y'all the reason why the LA club scene turned down now?
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:19] Speaker C: Cause we're not here no more. Like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:13:23] Speaker E: Motors holler at us.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Hey, you know what? I got two things, actually. I'm gonna tell you two things I never told you before.
[00:13:29] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: The first one is I used to be jealous of you because I remember the promoters. I ain't gonna say who it was. They used to act broke with us.
[00:13:40] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: And they fly. Drama and late come in. Hey, what's up, y'all? Walk right past us. Y'all got the hotel, the black trucks. I'm like, this Nigga gave me $200. He said he had no money, and I was hot. I was so mad.
That was one. The second thing was, you know, obviously, me and you have a good relationship. I have a lot of respect for you, but vice versa. I think that one thing that people never really gave you credit for is you. And, like, I mean, Cannon, I never really seen Cannon out here like that. As far as, like, you, you would be in the trenches for sure, like. And I even like, sorry, dro no, I'm not saying in a bad way, but, like, you was where I was at, right? And so it's like, they got drama in here. What the fuck is he doing in here, like? And you would just always come through show love. And I remember one time, I ain't gonna say the organ, the group that it was, but it was a rumble in that motherfucker. It was me, you, and a girl dj I'm not gonna name. And you was in there just like, shit.
I said, I don't know if you remember this, but I'm like, yo, I'm gonna stay here with you and make sure everything's straight. You was like, I'm good.
I'm talking about n. Is full on fighting like, it's a rumble in this. And he like, nah, I'm good, you can go. I'm like, okay. Like it then. So me and the homies left. But you just always been like that. And like, obviously you from a certain place, so that texture is in you for sure. But people look at LA in a certain way. Why have you never, like, been like.
[00:15:10] Speaker C: That as this guy to the left of me right here shot the Lake show?
I mean, you know, again, first of all, LA is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been to. You know what I mean? If it wasn't for my deep roots connected to Atlanta, I would probably have moved out here. But, you know, I mean, I've been coming out here for years and years, even in my early 2000s, but you know what I'm saying, When me and Lake started officially working together, he had me in LA all the time we was working and it was just, it was comfortable situation.
I never had to. Those things that people talk about on TV and you hear about them stories. We was.
My homie's from the city, he's from the town. So it was never a problem. It was always love. And, you know, the city has always shown me love. And that's why even when Gina brought up those projects, you know, outside of that talent, like, I love to show love back, you know what I'm saying? Especially in a place that I'm around and at all the time, like, it would be disservice for me not to touch the town, the people that, the music and you know, feel at home in that way.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: What part of LA you from?
[00:16:20] Speaker E: Gardena.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: Oh, okay, okay.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Now, Canon, bro, I. I don't. I don't know if anybody ever asked you this before. I play a lot of video games. I know the tag.
I know the tag. The tag come from the Madden, right?
That's a. That's a urban legend.
[00:16:38] Speaker F: It's going to stay an urban legend.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: The tag don't come from Madden?
[00:16:40] Speaker C: Nope.
[00:16:41] Speaker A: Okay.
Have anyone ever contacted you from, like, dope?
[00:16:50] Speaker F: Nobody. I mean, it's TV shows out with the same shit in it. It's a show from the 80s. They got a cannon in it. Steps back, it's got that in it, you know?
Just got you out of here, kid. The drumstig.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: Well, yeah, you know. Well, you know.
[00:17:09] Speaker F: No, no, no, no.
[00:17:10] Speaker C: A lot of people step back.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: Is there a story for the tech?
[00:17:12] Speaker F: I mean, it's just an urban legend. People been trying to find out where it was from. They've guesstimated. They did some things. You know, when time comes to time. We'll talk about it.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: We'll talk about it.
Yeah, I'm picking up what you putting up.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: Speaking of the tag, though, who idea was it for Lil Wayne to rap over the attack?
[00:17:34] Speaker F: I think he's just that good, you know what I mean? When he just. He hears things. Like, if you listen to Carter 3, like, Maestro was one of the biggest producers back then. And when that song came on, he was like, I got that beat from Maestro, and that's all right. Like, that's just something he do. He's so good. He dodging.
[00:17:51] Speaker B: What was your reaction when you heard it?
[00:17:53] Speaker F: Man, I probably. Probably went to the bathroom, took a couple dumps. You know, I was. I was so excited.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: What?
[00:17:59] Speaker F: You know, you get excited, you get the bubble gum.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: I'm like, n. That sounded crazy.
[00:18:03] Speaker B: I was waiting for you to land.
[00:18:05] Speaker F: You know what I'm saying? I try to keep it pg.
[00:18:07] Speaker C: That was.
[00:18:07] Speaker F: You know what I'm saying?
[00:18:08] Speaker C: Go ahead.
[00:18:08] Speaker F: Yeah, that was one of the. So. So the story behind it easily was I made that beat for Trick Daddy.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: Word.
[00:18:14] Speaker F: Yeah. I went. Somebody from Atlantic flew me down to work with Trick Daddy. I made the beat. He never showed up. He was like, in a strip club every day. So I gave it to Dram. And, you know, he did.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: He just. No. Showed you.
[00:18:24] Speaker F: It wasn't a no show. It was just like, you know, sometimes A and R's get a bad rep at these labels. Like, they set up sessions for people and they be like, yo, I want you to go on with Trick Daddy.
[00:18:33] Speaker C: And Trick Daddy's like, yeah, he was still early.
[00:18:35] Speaker F: It's like, you. I ain't really had on name. I was just getting there, you know what I mean? So I think he was like, you know, he was still Trick Daddy, like, one of the best rappers out of there. And I think he just didn't make it. I had fun with it. This dude named Fiend was in there, and, you know, Fiend, he was right. Crazy hooks. And we was just coming up with stuff. So he was the first one to do that hook. And then I gave it the drum. And then, you know, Busta got on it first. But when Wayne got on it, it was special because he did the whole record. He did three minutes straight.
[00:19:02] Speaker A: He was right through.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: I was gonna ask, why is the song so long?
[00:19:04] Speaker F: Yeah, we actually made a verse out of it. We chopped it to make verse out of it.
[00:19:08] Speaker C: But he's rapping actual versions of that.
[00:19:11] Speaker F: You know, I mean, the original was a hook. The canon was a hook.
That was a hook that he had made because he rapped for like, 3 minutes and 30 seconds.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: Can we get this? Unreleased. I'm a Lil Wayne fan.
[00:19:22] Speaker C: He got it.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: I got it.
[00:19:23] Speaker E: He got it.
[00:19:24] Speaker C: Yeah, you got it.
[00:19:24] Speaker F: I'll send it to you.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: I can leak it.
[00:19:28] Speaker F: I mean, I've played it. We've did, like, parties together where we did like the. The Red Bull joint where we had a sound clash. We played it. You know what I mean?
[00:19:37] Speaker B: Unreleased. So it's not public nowhere. It's not on YouTube or anything?
[00:19:39] Speaker C: I don't think so.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: What?
[00:19:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:19:43] Speaker C: I still have, like. I still have probably about 50 minutes of, like, outtakes of the talking that's on the dedications.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:51] Speaker C: From Lil Wayne that I didn't use for the tape. Like, a lot of stuff from that time.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Is the. Is the drama Netflix documentary coming?
[00:19:59] Speaker C: It's in. It's in the works.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:20:03] Speaker C: We have a lot of stories to tell. So obviously there's like the. There's the Gangster Grill story. There's the generational story. Then there's like the mean streets story of our studio in Atlanta. So we're figuring it out now.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: How many old, unreleased Gangster Grill projects are there?
[00:20:20] Speaker C: Unreleased? Not a lot.
Mr. Fab ad.
[00:20:25] Speaker A: I knew. Didn't I say that before they came in? I was like, it gotta be a. I remember there was something in the works. Somebody from the Bay. I think it was Fab.
[00:20:32] Speaker C: It was okay. He. He's probably one of the few people that's never. That didn't drop. It's like fully completed. Everything, like, great talking on it and just never.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: So he didn't drop it? Not you.
[00:20:43] Speaker C: He didn't put it out.
[00:20:44] Speaker A: Why?
[00:20:45] Speaker C: I don't know. I still to this day, I often ask.
[00:20:48] Speaker E: No, he wants to put it out now, 20 years later.
[00:20:50] Speaker C: Sounds about right.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: I'm for sure.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: Gonna ask you any other artists?
[00:20:53] Speaker C: There's some ones that were supposed to happen that didn't happen. Like, Days Before Rodeo. Travis Scott was supposed to be a gangster. Girls. Wow, that's crazy. It was some other supposed to's. There was a. A Drake and Gucci collab tape that was. Almost happened that was gonna be against the Grills.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: All the songs. You got all the songs?
[00:21:12] Speaker C: No, we put a couple of them out there. They came out on, like, the burr print, like. Or was it the bird print? No, it wasn't the burp. It was after the bird print. Gucci did like a three Tape series with me screaming holiday. And he put a couple of those out that they have been working on. And, you know, Nikki beat me up. Scotty was almost against the girls.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:21:32] Speaker C: So, yeah, there's a couple out there. I'm forgetting. I'm forgetting a few.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: I tweeted, what should I ask you? And somebody told me to ask about Pusha Ts.
[00:21:39] Speaker F: Oh, man. Most participants.
[00:21:41] Speaker C: Yeah, that's definitely the. I've been getting that question for, like, the last, like, year and a half.
[00:21:47] Speaker B: Is that something in the works or was it just a conversation?
[00:21:50] Speaker C: That's really a question for Push. Honestly, like, I got my shit already prepared, so, you know, I definitely would say it's still in the works.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:22:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: When do you ask, Kai? When do you ask for a gangster grip? Like, at what point?
[00:22:05] Speaker D: I ain't gonna lie.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: Cause I remember. I remember talking to Jack about this shit.
[00:22:09] Speaker D: Yo, so what we doing?
[00:22:10] Speaker A: Oh, that's how you ask what we doing?
[00:22:12] Speaker D: Yeah, it's real passive, but fuck it, just like, it's getting the point across just a little bit. Yeah, I asked early, but I think.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: I would have you asked already?
[00:22:20] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: Damn, nigga.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: He said when I got.
[00:22:23] Speaker F: He said, damn. N.
Off the real.
[00:22:26] Speaker D: But now drama's like, yo, let's do it.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: Oh, word.
[00:22:29] Speaker C: That's normally how it happens, though. They ask early and then they wait, and then normally they pop and then they don't do it.
[00:22:38] Speaker D: He also told me that when I asked, he's like, yeah, you say that now. We're not gonna do it.
[00:22:43] Speaker C: Love is Raised was supposed to be against the girls.
[00:22:45] Speaker D: Oh, wow.
[00:22:46] Speaker F: You could change this.
You can pop off and then gangster girls. You can't do the title of the creator.
[00:22:52] Speaker A: So when you double back and ask again, it'd be annoying.
[00:22:56] Speaker D: Yeah, Yeah, I hope he does. I'm definitely. I want to do it. I'm a student of the game. It's super important to me. Like, I gotta make sure I do it.
[00:23:06] Speaker A: Has. Have. Have either one of y'all ever pitched an idea and it was in.
[00:23:11] Speaker C: Like.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Y'all was like, no, this ain't for the generation now. This ain't for us.
[00:23:14] Speaker F: Pitch the idea like an artist.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: Like an artist. Like, yeah, I wanna. I wanna fuck with this artist. And then like, somebody veto it. Or somebody be like, I'm probably the.
[00:23:21] Speaker F: Last one to veto.
[00:23:22] Speaker C: Yeah, all the time.
[00:23:24] Speaker A: You shut down everything for sure.
[00:23:27] Speaker F: I don't know why. Because they'd definitely be decent artists. I'll just be trying to.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: Problem?
[00:23:31] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:23:34] Speaker C: You know.
[00:23:35] Speaker F: You know what it is, though. And not that I'm perfect. I'd be trying to hit a home run all the time. And that ain't what you should be doing. Like, you should be hitting rbis. Yeah.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: Getting basics.
[00:23:45] Speaker F: And for some reason I can't see it. I don't know where I got that from. From. I don't know.
[00:23:48] Speaker C: It's Barry Bonds.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: You a dj, bro.
[00:23:50] Speaker F: That's true.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: We want. We want. We want the record to agree to it.
[00:23:54] Speaker C: We rolling.
[00:23:54] Speaker D: That's what they told me my first meeting. What it was just Lake and Drum. And they was like, yeah, you just got to get past canon.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: Oh, the. That told me out. That I was told.
[00:24:06] Speaker D: Right now.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Are you guys the first hip hop Rico?
[00:24:10] Speaker F: Damn.
[00:24:11] Speaker A: Probably.
[00:24:13] Speaker F: God damn. I don't know. I doubt it. No.
[00:24:16] Speaker C: Are we who.
[00:24:17] Speaker F: Who wasn't Luke and no, that wasn't a Rico.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:24:23] Speaker E: For sure.
[00:24:23] Speaker F: Might have been. Yeah.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: So what was your.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: No, that was pre me.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: That was.
I didn't have nothing to do with that.
[00:24:30] Speaker C: Even we were before tip. Tip came later in the year.
[00:24:32] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:24:33] Speaker C: Damn.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: We might have been the first set the tone.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Because I don't think. I didn't. I didn't know that until today when I'm looking at. Obviously I was a child then, but I've been thinking this whole time with everything going on, like, this is crazy. This is wild for hip hop. What were y'all thoughts, though, going through that?
[00:24:48] Speaker C: This is crazy. This is wild.
Same shit you just said.
[00:24:55] Speaker B: But experiencing that. And then a website like datpiff or my mixtapes comes out, like, what was y'all thoughts on that?
[00:25:03] Speaker A: That's good. That's a good question.
[00:25:06] Speaker C: In the beginning, when we were doing what we were doing, the approach that Dap Piff and LA Mixtape brought to the table, we didn't. With that. Like, I was looking at it like, yo, they're giving away the dope for free. You know what I'm saying? So, like, it was like a. From a DJ perspective. It was like, man, that Piff, like, I'm not with them. Like, they over here just handing the out, you know, we came from an era where there were like mixtape websites, and obviously it's so, so many years later, but it was always a very, like, taboo thing to talk about money and mixtape, you know what I'm saying? Because it was quote unquote, for promotional use only. You weren't supposed to admit that you were making any money off mixtapes, you know what I mean? So. But everyone was making money off mixtapes. So then dad Piff and the mixtape game, you know, when online and even, like, the blog era, those almost became the new mixtapes because that's how people started to get their new music off of that. So slowly but surely, you know, I started to warm up and they started to reach out and want to do business. And, you know, ironically, like, I made more money during that era, like the Dat Piff and LA mixtape era with them than we made before the Rico. Like, the money was insane. Like, after the raid, a lot of people thought, like, oh, the mixtape game is gonna die or it's done. I mean, it got bigger than ever. You know what I'm saying? It was. I mean, it really paved the way for what streaming is now for sure.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: What did y'all. Was the first creation y'all made after that situation, after the case.
[00:26:38] Speaker F: Like, music creation, you know, artist storytelling, artist story. Oh, was. I thought that was before.
[00:26:44] Speaker C: No, that was the right. That was. We made it right after the raid. I mean, yeah, because, you know, the. The whole hook that. The hook on that song, the artist storytelling is a record on my album produced by Canon. It features Outkast and Marsha Ambrosius.
Probably one of the last, like, people to, like, get an Outkast record since I don't know when. But the basis of the hook is based upon what we went through in the trial in the case. And nothing's gonna stop us. You can't stop us. We stronger than ever type shit at that point.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Are y'all tiptoeing around putting out music?
[00:27:22] Speaker C: A little bit. But, you know, I also, like, just put my balls on the table and put a mixtape out. Like, fuck it. I put out gangsta grills 16, you know, with my. With my face on the COVID and just was like. But I gave it out for free, you know, just to show the world, like, it's not. It's. It's not about the money. It's about the culture. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I mean, that was really. The money was good, obviously, but that's not what we did it for. You know what I mean? Like, students of the game, we came in this to continue on what. What's gotten us here and what's made so many people rich?
[00:27:54] Speaker B: Do y'all have any advice on people dropping mix? I'm dropping a mixtape.
[00:27:58] Speaker C: Are you? Yeah, Fire.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: It's a series. I'm not rapping.
[00:28:00] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: Do y'all have any advice for people?
I'm not a white boy in the room.
Any advice for People putting out music without making money from it.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: Don't get locked up.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:28:17] Speaker C: Without making. What do you mean, without making money from it?
[00:28:19] Speaker B: Obviously, I'm not gonna make no money from it, because it's not. Why not? I am the recycling beats.
[00:28:25] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: I haven't locked in with a producer or anything like that.
[00:28:29] Speaker C: So what are you putting out on.
[00:28:30] Speaker B: I was gonna drop it on YouTube.
[00:28:32] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:28:32] Speaker E: You can still. You know you can still do that, though, right?
[00:28:34] Speaker C: Like, it'll take still ways to monetize it.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: Oh, how?
[00:28:38] Speaker C: I mean, there's.
[00:28:39] Speaker E: You would have to license the actual music, but that's not hard to do.
[00:28:42] Speaker C: Yeah, licensing the music because that's being done right now.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: So I should talk to y'all after. Yeah, y'all gonna give me a chain, though.
[00:28:49] Speaker E: Give you a pendant to put on.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: The chain you got already. What's the pro. What's the worst? What's worse? Ask them for a gangster grill or a chain.
Like, which one is the worst?
[00:28:58] Speaker B: The chains is free.
[00:28:59] Speaker A: Y'all just got to chain.
Which one is more egregious? Ask.
[00:29:04] Speaker C: More egregious.
[00:29:05] Speaker E: We get more chain ass than anything we get. Like, when my homies ask.
[00:29:08] Speaker A: The chain is hard, though.
[00:29:10] Speaker D: The chains is hard.
[00:29:11] Speaker F: Everybody has a chain.
[00:29:13] Speaker C: Everybody has an artist.
[00:29:14] Speaker E: They just want a chain before a job. Like that don't make sense.
[00:29:17] Speaker C: Yeah, like, Joey from down the block's gonna ask for a chain. Doesn't rap.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Is there a favorite gangster girl project?
[00:29:25] Speaker C: Nah, nah, it's too many. Like, they're all. They're all special. I mean, obviously, you know, there's always been this debate and conversation based upon Trap or die and dedication to, like, those are like one and two, and then, you know, a very important one was the Pharrell in my mind, the prequel, you know, and there's just so many. Like, so many incredible ones. And then, of course, you know, next to those. From now on, I always speak upon Tyler the creator. Call me if you get lost. For sure.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: Yeah, that's.
[00:30:00] Speaker C: That's a very endeared project.
[00:30:02] Speaker A: Grammy drown.
[00:30:03] Speaker C: Yes, sir.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: Grammy drown. I seen that. I was watching the stream. I think it was you and Wayne o Dreamville when you found. When you found out.
Congrats on that, by the way. I appreciate that. Again, on that. That's a dj.
Like, winning something like that is crazy to me. Like, as a dj, that's insane to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't never get that. But did you know. Did you already, like, when you was going into the project and call me if you get lost. Did you know what that was?
[00:30:34] Speaker C: Lake came in the studio. He wasn't there for the first session. He came for the second session. And I had already kind of laid the. The foundation for most of my vocals on the music. And again, like, Tyler is such the. The mad scientist and genius. Even before I did the project, he had found some random vocals of mine from some random gangster grills and, like, placed it on the music of, like, what he thought it should sound like. And I was like, yo, this guy's insane.
The first thing, like, said when he came in is, like, yo, y'all gonna win a Grammy for this.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: For real? How'd you know?
[00:31:11] Speaker E: Just because I know the aesthetic and, like, what? What, like the Grammys are listening for. And I knew Tyler had already won the year before with the.
[00:31:18] Speaker C: Well, Igor.
[00:31:19] Speaker E: Yeah, for Igor.
[00:31:20] Speaker C: Yeah. At that point, it was a year.
[00:31:22] Speaker E: Yeah. So I was like, okay, cool. His approach was totally different, and I knew he knew how to approach. It's the same conversations I have with Terrace all the time. I think there's a certain approach that you make from a musicality standpoint to try to impress Grammy listeners. And I knew that's what he was doing and adding that element. I was like, okay. Coming off this commercial album, him doing this hip hop shit, they're gonna respect it. I just knew.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: Off top. Yeah, off top. Did you heard the whole project or.
[00:31:44] Speaker E: You only heard probably, like, four songs in? I was like, oh, yeah, I get what they doing. Cause when he told me they wanted to do it, at first, I didn't really see the vision. At first.
[00:31:52] Speaker C: I didn't know that.
[00:31:53] Speaker E: No, I didn't. Just because as dope as Tyler is, it's so abstract as opposed to what you do. I didn't know how it would sound when I went and listened to it, I was like, okay, it makes sense.
[00:32:03] Speaker A: You know what? You got hella foresight.
[00:32:06] Speaker C: And it was some heavy competition.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: Hell, yeah. Yeah.
[00:32:09] Speaker C: I mean, it was Cole. It was certified Lover Boy. It was Donda.
[00:32:15] Speaker A: It was some shit up there.
[00:32:16] Speaker C: And was it King's disease? Was that the other one?
[00:32:19] Speaker E: No, I think King's Disease won the year before Cole.
[00:32:22] Speaker C: It was Donda. It was certified Lover boy. And it was one more.
[00:32:26] Speaker F: It was tough.
[00:32:27] Speaker E: Cause I remember when we flew out there, we was like, yeah, this is gonna be a tough one. But at least you got nominated, right?
[00:32:32] Speaker A: You already like, yeah, fuck it. You know, speaking of foresight, like, Jack Harlow is somebody who I always fight for. Like, I'm always. I'm a huge Jack Harlow. We appreciate you for that advocate, you know what I'm saying? Like Jack is hip hop. But then you also got Kai Cash. So from your perspective as an executive, you don't really.
I don't necessarily see a lot of executives doing the kind of stuff you be doing when it comes to hands on approach, when it comes to the way you move your artists and stuff like that. What's the strategy?
[00:33:08] Speaker E: For real, bro, it's just boots to the concrete, man. I think we've had a formula that traditionally worked for us and I think when we all have 10 toes down and when everybody kind of plays their role, I think that's the brilliance of our partnership. Can is a genius when it comes to the music. Drum's a brand that's undeniable and I think I'm pretty good at the business side. So I think when we're all involved, I think it's kind of unstoppable. And I think when there's a formula that works consistently, I don't think you should really stray away from it. No matter if the game changes, if your formula works consistently, consistently just stick to the script. So that's really what I do, bro. I stay, you know, ten toes down.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: What made you want to sign this man right here?
[00:33:43] Speaker E: Just his ability, bro. And he comes from a lineage, pure talent and the lineage too, you know what I'm saying?
He comes from Biggie and Junior Mafia's camp. Student of the game and then so much more than rapping. The key to me is you could create all these dope, energetic moments, right? But a lot of times when you create these moments, when you go and listen to the music, it's not really that good. Our goal with him, after he would create these moments or rap for us or freestyle, we go listen to the music. And the music is good too.
[00:34:12] Speaker A: I think I always peep that y'all had an approach kind of like top where they don't. You don't want nothing like established like you want to build shit ground up from scratch.
What's the mentality behind that?
[00:34:24] Speaker E: I think what I just said more than anything. I think a lot of people that make music today, like they're trying to create a moment, right? They're trying to create virality. But then when the virality comes, they're not necessarily prepared. So by the time they scramble and get prepared, the moment is gone. So what we try to do is we spend all that time preparing for the moment. So when you do hit the Moment, like when Uzi or when Jack did, when they get there, they on autopilot, you know what I mean? Cause they're prepared. They know how to perform. They've been on tour with Drama already. They've been in the dojo with Cannon doing songs for a year and a half. I don't know. How long did you record before you actually put this mixtape out before we're about to put this out? What, a year and a half?
[00:34:58] Speaker D: Nah. N, like two years?
[00:35:00] Speaker A: He said, nah, nigga, like longer. I need my credit. I was just been rapping my ass off. Yeah.
[00:35:06] Speaker E: So I think it's really just getting them in the dojo and really preparing them for the moment. And a lot of times it's just like practicing for a sport. You don't think it's gonna work until you get into the game. But when you actually get in the game and you see, it's just, you know, it's muscle memory. It's the exact same thing with the music for us. So it's about preparation and being prepared for the moment. So when the moment hits, you can take advantage of it.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: And you never really vocal either. Like, I know, like the whole shit with. When she was going down with Uzi, like Drama and Cannon took all the strays.
[00:35:32] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: Lake be in the background.
[00:35:33] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: Like what? Like what are you doing?
[00:35:35] Speaker C: He was getting strays.
[00:35:36] Speaker E: I was getting a lot of strays. Nobody know who I was. So it really wasn't no issue. I wasn't tripping.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: So how do you handle that? Like from when those types of things.
[00:35:43] Speaker E: Happen, man, it's tough, bro. Because you really gotta realize that ultimately you can't beat the Internet. And you gotta understand more than anything that like a fan is somebody who's obsessed with somebody. So no matter what I tell you about somebody, you're gonna believe what you believe. Ultimately, time tells every bro. You know what I mean? And. And we started this company, what, in 2014. It's 2025. You know, I'm saying I always pride of myself and being a good dude and a stand up dude. I think these dudes are the same type of people. And you know, like I said, time, time tells all. So I think you could look at everything and say, all right, cool. Maybe it's not what they said it was. And then arguing with the Internet ain't gonna never be.
[00:36:21] Speaker C: You know, you can't win that fight. And we. And you've seen people try and it ain't worth it.
[00:36:25] Speaker A: You're gonna lose every time.
What do You. What do y'all do when y'all, like, see things like.
Like, with, like, the Jack Harlow conversation that I've been having for forever, right?
Like, oh, he's. He can't rap. He's not hip hop. He's industry playing. He's this and that. Like, how do you. Like, how do you handle that internally as a team? Do y'all even talk about that type of.
[00:36:45] Speaker F: No, we don't talk about none of it.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: Nothing.
[00:36:47] Speaker F: Even when the Uzi stuff. We wasn't talking about that stuff, bro. We just was working, bro.
Cause we knew what we had. Like, anything we got is different. Like, we learned by trial and error, like you said. We learned by trial and error that we can grow stuff from the seed up. But we also, like, it don't make no sense to sit there and worry about stuff and do all this stuff in time. Like, we got too much other stuff we trying to accomplish. You know what I mean?
[00:37:10] Speaker C: I feel you.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: My introduction to you was the West. The song the west with King Combs and Greedo.
[00:37:16] Speaker D: Yep.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: I thought you was from LA at first.
[00:37:19] Speaker D: Mad people did.
[00:37:20] Speaker F: To this day, he is from la.
[00:37:24] Speaker D: A lot of people thought I was from la, but I appreciated the love. Cause when I came out here, it was just like, I received a lot of love.
[00:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:31] Speaker D: But that was the one record that broke for me back home, too.
And that's what made it so big. Yeah, the west was. I was getting super love off the west of New York because it was just like, oh, we got a New York nigga that could do this on some Cali shit. And here it was just like, this nigga's from here. So it was just like, I wasn't even. I'm not. Yeah, whatever y'all think, fuck it.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: I look at King Coles.
[00:37:53] Speaker B: Exactly what I look at King Combs as an LA nigga, even though he not from out here. But that was the first song that I put on my hybrid. I made a West coast playlist. That's the first song I put on the song.
[00:38:04] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:38:05] Speaker B: And y'all gave us. Well, I don't know how long ago y'all had. Did the verse, but Greedo was in jail when y'all dropped that.
[00:38:11] Speaker D: Yeah, he actually did his hook maybe, like, two weeks before he turned himself in. He was, like, one of the last.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: For real?
[00:38:19] Speaker D: Yeah. He actually came to the studio. Dolores. It was mad of us in there off that. I was just like, oh, yeah, this n. He coming to work.
Came in. He listened to the song. Cause initially it was my verse, and then it was Christian's verse directly after we didn't have no hook, I was just gonna put Greedo last. He's like, y'all don't really need me on this shit. This shit is crazy already. I'm like, nah, nigga, you here already. Like, come on. He went in there and, oh, Rip. I took a deal just to beat that indictment. Like, the first thing that came to his mind, and he was about to keep going. I was like, nah, just stop.
[00:38:48] Speaker C: That's it.
[00:38:49] Speaker D: That's it. That's all we need. He was like, cool. And we just placed it in. The rest was history.
[00:38:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:53] Speaker D: And two weeks later, the craziest thing is, my pops, he wanted us to go shoot the video so bad. Like, he was like, I would pay for all of y'all flights before this nigga goes to jail. Go to New York, shoot this video out of here. Me, I'm not listening. Damn opportunity.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: Did you know he was turning himself in?
[00:39:10] Speaker D: Yeah, he told us. He was like, bro, I just had. He's like, y'all like, my 15th session today. I'm about to go turn myself in.
[00:39:16] Speaker A: And you still don't want to shoot the fucking video? Just me and Knucklehead.
See, that's why Cannon don't fuck now. Fuckers.
[00:39:25] Speaker E: Do that shit, man.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: Yeah, you can do the fucking video, bro.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: When do we get. I was kicking it with somebody. They tried to flex on me with an unreleased Gangsta Grills project.
[00:39:36] Speaker F: Damn.
[00:39:37] Speaker C: You gonna name them or no?
[00:39:39] Speaker B: We could bleep it out if we ain't supposed to talk about it.
[00:39:42] Speaker C: Too many talking about Perico. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got a date, right?
[00:39:45] Speaker F: April 11th.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: April 11th.
[00:39:47] Speaker D: Oh, tomorrow?
[00:39:51] Speaker C: Yeah, it's on the way.
[00:39:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:53] Speaker E: 4 11.
[00:39:54] Speaker B: How did that happen?
[00:39:55] Speaker C: I mean, this is our second project together. You know, we've worked together for some time. I've been fucking with Preco for years. Just a homie again, you know, being. Being in the city, you know, and just. He's dope, you know what I'm saying? So he reached out, you know, and. And again, I think, like, it's a generation, like, people like G and Kai that kind of grew up on Gangsta Grylls. So for me, it's still a blessing that they still feel like it's. For them, it's something in their career. Like, I want to have a Gangsta Grylls, you know? So even for me and G to go back in, like, okay. It's not even like, all right, we did it now it creates more moments where he's an artist that now I have a body of work with. You know what I'm saying? So then he can be in those conversations with the Nips and the Waynes and the Jeezies and the tips and everything. So we can have a continuation of projects together. So for me in 2025 to still be able to talk my shit on records and come up with some creative shit that people still appreciate and look for and it feels like cheating.
[00:41:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:07] Speaker A: You had a project with 50. I mean, I'm a project. Was it. It was a mixtape. The lost tape.
[00:41:14] Speaker C: The lost tape.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: And that was 2012.
[00:41:17] Speaker C: 2012.
[00:41:18] Speaker A: That was after he did Before I self destruct.
[00:41:23] Speaker C: Yeah, it was.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Which probably. Which wasn't well received by everybody. What was his energy like in that project, in that. In that process?
[00:41:31] Speaker C: You know what's crazy? I was just thinking about this the other day, like, yo, when we worked on that project and like did a run with 50, like that shit was so much fun, bro.
[00:41:41] Speaker A: Like he was having fun.
[00:41:42] Speaker C: I mean, to me, I feel like Fif's always having fun. Like I've never been around Fif and you're not gonna laugh and like get a story or get a moment like, you know, this man one time came to my video fuwishing record I had with Chris Brown and scheme and just showed up to do a cameo and wound up like, like basically co directing the video. Like, you know, you got a free.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: You got a free director.
[00:42:07] Speaker C: Yeah, like fifth is just one of those guys. But I remember us just in New York like going around doing, doing promo with him and everything and you know, sitting in the office and him telling stories and you know, shout out to Renee. But like fifth is a. Fifth is a very rare individual and it comes to this industry like, you know, he's one of the few people that I consider very solid and you know, stand up guy. And for me, you know, again, like he was so inspirational to us when it came to the mixtape game with him and who Kid was doing and you know, he literally changed the game, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, to finally get one in with him after all that much time. Like to me that was bucket list shit. Like I can't not have a 50 Cent Gangster Grill.
[00:42:54] Speaker A: So you asked, you hit him up?
[00:42:55] Speaker C: No, he wound up hitting me. I think I had reached out like earlier, earlier, like some years earlier. And you know, it wasn't Tom. And then he was like, yo, you know. Cause you know who Kid was his Go to. But, you know, Gangsta Grylls is what it is. Staple. And then, you know, we got that done. But, yeah, the stories that come out of out of Fifth Mouth are legendary. And, like, he's just, you know, he's just. He's one of a kind, bro. You gotta love him.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: Can y'all get fat back outside?
[00:43:23] Speaker C: Damn. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I don't think Fabs. He's inside.
[00:43:27] Speaker B: No, he active. But I'm talking about. There's no competition.
[00:43:30] Speaker C: That would. That would be fire. I wonder if people want a soul tape more or. There is no competition.
[00:43:36] Speaker B: I want. There's no competition.
[00:43:37] Speaker C: Really?
[00:43:37] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:43:38] Speaker C: I ain't gonna lie. I might want a soul tape.
[00:43:39] Speaker A: I'm cool.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: I want anything from Fab. If Fab just whatever. Fab dropped.
[00:43:44] Speaker C: For sure. I'm with you. Yeah, I mean, he actually, I think, teased it maybe last year because. Wait, when did the first one come out? The first one came out and like.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: Okay, get cracking and come back. That's her phone charger. Wait a minute.
[00:44:00] Speaker E: Get cracking and come back.
[00:44:02] Speaker B: When I charge my phone, that's just what it's like.
[00:44:04] Speaker C: Oh, boy.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Daily affirmation, yo.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: That's hard.
[00:44:10] Speaker C: Two years. 10 years. 17 years. You know, we might do some ghetto shit.
[00:44:14] Speaker A: Thanks for pointing that out. Like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:44:16] Speaker B: Then I'm sitting here with the Blu Rag. It's crazy.
[00:44:19] Speaker A: The marathon continues, and I got this.
There's a lot of going on.
Anyway, let me pivot.
Miles Minick is a Christian artist. I work with him. I'm a R and his stuff. Dope.
[00:44:36] Speaker E: Congrats, too, on your new.
[00:44:37] Speaker A: Yeah, thanks, bro. That's big, man. It's an untapped world that I think could benefit from culture.
But Miles Minick just announced Glow Fest. It's gonna be in the bay.
Another person that's gonna be there is Lecrae.
[00:44:50] Speaker F: Yep.
[00:44:51] Speaker A: Cannon, you did Lecrae's first mixtape.
[00:44:54] Speaker F: Three first three.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: First three mixtapes.
But you was early, though. Like, were you already tapped in on that wave or, like, what even. How does one even go about doing that? Because that's kind of a foreign concept.
[00:45:08] Speaker F: In our culture, to be honest. I grew up in a church. You know what I mean? When I was little, before I met Lecrae, I used to have random people run up on me and be like, you doing that secular music? You come from the church, and it always used to say something. And then one day somebody was like, yo, it's this rapper that you have to do a Tape with, like, you would enjoy his music. And Knife Wonder why I'm playing it for me.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: You said ninth Later.
[00:45:37] Speaker F: Knife Wonder. It played me, like, a song. He was like, yo, I did this song with this dude. You should do a tape with him. And then I left it alone. He wound up hitting me like, yo, I got these songs with Cray hit.
[00:45:47] Speaker A: You or Knife hit you.
[00:45:48] Speaker F: Cray.
[00:45:48] Speaker C: Oh.
[00:45:49] Speaker A: Oh, shit.
[00:45:49] Speaker F: And he was like, yo, I got these songs with Knife. I got these songs with, you know, all these producers that I knew. And I was like, come on, let's do it. He sent me some records. I wound up doing a tape. We doubled back and did another tape.
And then last year, we wound up doing our first record that won a Grammy. So, like, I'm happy about that.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: Hell, yeah.
[00:46:07] Speaker F: Because that's Christian music.
[00:46:08] Speaker A: And congrats.
[00:46:09] Speaker F: That's out of all the stuff that made my mom more happy. It was like, yeah, I could go to church and brag now.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: Not the house, the car.
[00:46:15] Speaker F: Yeah. Nah, like, she wanted. She wanted to brag about some stuff. And, you know, through all the accomplishments, that's one that a lot of people can't hang in a shrine is that they crossed over into Christian music. It's very hard to be on both sides. You know what I mean?
[00:46:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:46:29] Speaker F: So salute to Craig. We going. We about to double back and do another church close. Yeah, I just sent them this year back.
[00:46:36] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:46:36] Speaker A: So it'll be out this year. Okay.
[00:46:39] Speaker E: That's Grammy, but I'm winning, too, by the way.
[00:46:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: That's dope, bro. Congrats.
[00:46:43] Speaker F: Yeah. So we. We working on that. And I love homie. I love. I actually love the drama, and I think that's where a lot of the music is starting to go. You're starting to see a little bit more lyrical. People not using as many cuss words in their music, and just getting back to coming out the drill.
It's like, let's slow down. Let's get back to this side. You know what I mean? In a positive world. But I'm happy to do both, you know what I mean?
[00:47:06] Speaker A: That's dope, man. Thank you, too. Miles is super excited to beat that crave, and it's tapping in like that, you know what I'm saying? I think it's a big move.
How do y'all go about making decisions on what y'all gonna drop first? Because we've had this debate on the bigger picture, arguing about Jack Harlow hits versus the Jackman album. And, like, I don't want the Jack, man album. I want the slaps.
And Jeremy Hecht, who is here, you know, he wants the. He wants the emotional shit. I want the slaps.
I want the records that's gonna. You know what I'm saying? I want the top 10. I like when Jack go number one. It make, you know, say, I like that, but it make, you know, people crash out and whatnot. But how do y'all make the internal decision on what records is coming? Do you know they hits? How do you make. How do you stagger the hits? Like, what does that look like?
[00:48:00] Speaker F: I mean, I bake them, and then the guys pick on. I'm too indecisive. I can't pick no record. I like them all.
[00:48:05] Speaker E: I think with Jack, like, it's a fine line between, like, cultural relevance and making the hits, right? And, of course, the elephant in the room is that his skin is a little fair. You know what I'm saying?
[00:48:15] Speaker A: A little fair?
[00:48:16] Speaker E: Yeah. It's a little lighter than everybody else.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Is in here, right?
[00:48:19] Speaker F: He's the honorary light skin with that.
[00:48:21] Speaker E: I think. I think in his heart, right, he wants to. To have this ultimate cultural relevance because he actually cares about the culture.
[00:48:27] Speaker F: Yeah, Right.
[00:48:28] Speaker E: But at the same time, that doesn't necessarily give you the residual effect of making a hit record, right? So I think that's a constant battle he has as an artist, and most artists have for sure. And. And I think we've always done a good job of teetering the line. If you look at our philosophy with Jack Stuff, we usually drop a rap record first, and then we go into the single.
That's always been our strategic way of doing that, just to let people know, yo, before we give you this, just let you know he's not abandoning this. Because, of course, the first thing they think that a traditional white artist is gonna do is go over there. So our goal initially, every time before he comes out, is like, yo, we rapping. And then after we rap, it's like, yo, we got these two.
[00:49:07] Speaker A: So how did y'all. What did. Is it. How do y'all. When you first heard I Just Wanna Rock, like. Cause I ain't gonna lie. First time I heard it, I didn't know what the fuck I was listening to, right? And I was like. I was like, what am I listening to? Because it doesn't sound like anything that's going on right now, and I don't know where the fuck to play it. Like, in my. Like, as a. Like, as a dj, I'm mixing. I don't know. It Stops everything. So, like, when you first heard it, like what? Like who brought it? Like who brought it?
[00:49:35] Speaker E: To me, that's the mastery of Don Cannon. So when I first heard that record, it was a 20 second snippet, am I right? It was 20 or 30 seconds. So it wasn't even really a full length song. It was kind of like an idea to an extent. And I know Cannon flew to New York and when he came back, that shit was two minutes long. So ultimately, I think Cannon did a really, really good job of getting in with Uzi and structuring it to make it sound like a complete record. I want to say it didn't even have a verse.
[00:50:01] Speaker F: It's still no verse.
It's like a three bar.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:08] Speaker E: It's a minute 40 seconds. But even adding the back part with the. Ha ha.
[00:50:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:12] Speaker E: All those extras, I think just canon being a mind like, okay, this is a dope ass idea. And then shifting into the new generation, where these songs are a minute and a half and two minutes. He figured out a way to kind of turn it into something full. So that's. That's him. That was him and Uzi doing most.
[00:50:26] Speaker A: What was that like? What was that like? You did. You have to. When you got in with him, you had to convince him.
[00:50:31] Speaker F: I mean, he had the idea. I just felt like it just needed a couple extra things to make it a solid song, you know what I mean? Even the mix, like, there's really no real mix on that. Like, his engineer just did it. Yeah. And I was like. He was like, yo, we send it. I said, he gonna do it. The engineer, he spent his. You know, I got this thing of if you spend the multiple time with somebody, they're in it. Yeah, they should be able to do it. And that was. That happened to be the guy. Ben's first mix.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: His first mix ever.
[00:50:57] Speaker F: His first mix ever.
[00:50:58] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:51:00] Speaker F: And I could have easily did it. And I was like, yo, I want you to do it. Because it was just one of them records. It didn't need too much. It was already there. And then he had his idea. And Vert is smart enough to be like, he knows the genres of the things that he wants to do. So he's very strategic. So I just wanted to be like, yo, let's add this. But I remember people was like, yo, put a verse on it. I was like, it ain't that type of vibe. Like, you know what I'm saying?
[00:51:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:51:22] Speaker F: It's really like, you know them Chicago, hey.
Or the Chop. It's one of them. Like, you go to the game, you know, the rock jocks is what they call them. Like, you know, the jock jams. It's like. It's one of those records. So why would you put a whole bunch of rapping on it?
[00:51:37] Speaker A: Because that ended up going number one, right?
[00:51:39] Speaker F: Was it close?
[00:51:39] Speaker A: It was like it was close as.
[00:51:43] Speaker B: They played that back to back at rolling loud about 20 times.
[00:51:46] Speaker A: I had an anxiety attack in the crowd just recently.
[00:51:49] Speaker B: No, it was last year's.
[00:51:50] Speaker A: Two years ago.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: Years ago.
[00:51:51] Speaker F: It was crazy. Will Smith just flipped.
[00:51:55] Speaker E: You know what I was listening to the other day? You know what it reminds me of? I say it's the east coast version of. You know that song in Miami that everybody uses the background.
The thing that Kodak used. Everybody used like, that Miami bass like that. 30 seconds. It's the east coast version.
[00:52:12] Speaker F: You never get tired of it because it's not really a lot to it.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: Before Jeezy, did anybody else touch Go Crazy?
[00:52:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:52:20] Speaker F: Yeah. Well, so have I told this a story. So I made the beat for Willie the Kid. That was our first artist.
I don't think they understood what it was.
What you mean?
Because when I did it.
[00:52:34] Speaker B: What's up with that, nigga?
[00:52:37] Speaker F: Let me rephrase. The first version of that had some breakbeat drums on it. And a friend of mine focused was like, bro, why do you DJ and kill all these parties? But all their beats sound underground now. It's a disconnect. And I was like, damn, he me up with that one. You know what I'm saying?
So what I did was I took them. I took the Brigby drums off of it when they had it and put those drums on it. Then it got passed off to the ipod King. And then, you know, he gave it the tip. The tip just freestyled on it.
[00:53:10] Speaker C: You know, I actually took it. He gave it to me. I had a beat tape, and then Tip gave me some acapellas, and I put him on Go Crazy. So he didn't even know he was rapping on it. And I put it on down with the King.
[00:53:25] Speaker F: The.
[00:53:26] Speaker C: The tape we. We did where he was going at Little Flip. So that was how, like, the Streets initially first heard it. And then we wound up doing a party for Jeezy, I think. What was that on Riviera? Riviera, this club on Peachtree. And we just kept running it back, running it back, running it back. And Jeezy heard it and then coaching. And Jeezy reached out to Cannon for the beat.
[00:53:49] Speaker F: He used to Be my manager.
[00:53:50] Speaker A: They. They heard it.
[00:53:52] Speaker C: They heard it.
You know what I mean? He was like, you know, it wasn't sold to Tip. Like, Tip didn't buy. It was some mixtape. And he was like, it's available.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:54:04] Speaker B: What's your first response when you heard the, like, the complete version of it?
[00:54:07] Speaker C: Jay Z, Yeah.
[00:54:09] Speaker E: Bubble guts, my first placement guy.
[00:54:11] Speaker F: Y'all keep asking these questions. It's bubble guts. You know what I'm saying? I was scared, like, even when I saw.
[00:54:15] Speaker A: Bro, what is it with you? You got irritable bowel syndrome.
Like, you got a shit every time.
[00:54:20] Speaker F: You hit record, bro. You gotta understand, you know, coming from, like, all right, from 2000 to 2004, I was in a space where I didn't know I was even supposed to be doing it. I thought I was just doing it, and then was gonna have to get a regular job. Cause that's what all my family members would say. Yeah, you gonna do that? But then start looking for a job. So when you see your idols get on your music, you feel like, damn, I'm actually supposed to be here. So that's a scary moment. You know what I mean? I watched Jay Z perform it in Atlanta or come out to it on a stage. What do you do? You get chills, goosebumps, your stomach hurt. You might want to cry.
[00:54:55] Speaker A: You remember everybody?
[00:54:55] Speaker F: Everybody in your face like, yo, they play your shit. I'm like, yo, I'm holding the tears and shit. You know what I'm saying?
[00:55:00] Speaker A: I remember everything about that day.
[00:55:01] Speaker C: 1,000% legendary.
[00:55:04] Speaker A: So what venue was this?
[00:55:07] Speaker C: State Farm. What is now State Farm. It was Phillips arena at the time.
[00:55:10] Speaker A: So at the arena, it was birthday party. And you standing there.
[00:55:14] Speaker F: I didn't understand what was going on. Beyonce and Kelly Rowland was up there. Jay Z was there. And only the craziest moment I remember about it, it was when Jeezy. When it was over with, he's like, I told you, nigga. And then walked off. That's why for the rest of my life, that's all I'm gonna remember.
[00:55:28] Speaker C: Yeah, I told you to convince Cannon to go. He didn't want to go.
[00:55:31] Speaker A: I didn't want to go.
[00:55:32] Speaker F: I never liked to go in the world.
[00:55:32] Speaker C: Yeah, he don't go out. We was like, bro, you gotta come. Like, Jay Z's coming, bro.
[00:55:37] Speaker A: Like, you didn't wanna see HOV perform your record?
[00:55:39] Speaker F: I think I didn't believe him. More than anything.
[00:55:41] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:55:41] Speaker F: Cause you know what I'm saying? I was like, he's not doing that, bro. We in a lot. Atlanta.
[00:55:44] Speaker C: Yeah. Why is he doing that at this time? He was competing to be Mr. Birthday Bash.
[00:55:48] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:55:49] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? Because before that, Tip had that crown, and jeezy wanted that Mr. Birthday Bash crown, so. And to beat at you, it was who he was bringing out, you know, I mean, Yeah, I think this was his second year doing it, and he brought Jay Z out, and it was pandemonium.
[00:56:02] Speaker F: Yeah, that was crazy.
[00:56:03] Speaker A: Y'all had to convince him to go. Y'all knew before.
[00:56:06] Speaker E: We often have to convince him.
[00:56:07] Speaker C: Yeah, it's not. It's not.
[00:56:08] Speaker E: Yeah, this is.
[00:56:09] Speaker C: This isn't abnormal.
[00:56:11] Speaker A: But he knew that Jay Z was performing his record.
[00:56:13] Speaker E: It doesn't matter.
[00:56:14] Speaker F: He was gonna be there. I'm like, there's no way.
[00:56:16] Speaker A: Oh, you didn't know he's gonna perform the record. If he knew. If you knew he was gonna perform the record, it would have been.
[00:56:21] Speaker F: No.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: Convenient. You would have went, I still might have.
[00:56:25] Speaker F: Like, I still might not listen. I missed a lot of monumental things.
You tripping out.
[00:56:32] Speaker A: What the is wrong with you? I just, you know, bro, go relish in your breakfast.
[00:56:36] Speaker F: I'm the Frankenstein dude, bro. I'm in the.
[00:56:39] Speaker E: There's introvert right here.
[00:56:41] Speaker F: That.
[00:56:42] Speaker E: That is intro.
[00:56:42] Speaker F: You know, it's in. You know, but. But it's weird because I would DJ in front of all these people and play all these records for many years. But, like, going out, I used to be like, nah, maybe. Cause I was fidgety. I don't know. I was in there like, man, if I ain't DJing, get me out of here.
[00:56:55] Speaker C: I just want.
[00:56:55] Speaker F: I was competitive.
[00:56:56] Speaker A: I feel that way, too. I don't like going to work. But if HOV is performing my. If he's gonna be there, and there's a potential possibility he's gonna perform my record, I'm pulling up.
[00:57:05] Speaker D: That's true.
[00:57:05] Speaker A: If he gonna perform your record, I'm pulling up.
[00:57:07] Speaker F: That's true.
[00:57:07] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:57:08] Speaker F: I mean, I'm a super, super, super, super fan now. Like, if Kendrick. If I did a record with Kendrick and he' Free party, I'm flying out here to watch it.
[00:57:15] Speaker A: Okay. Progress.
[00:57:17] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Give your credit.
[00:57:19] Speaker F: I'm definitely doing that. That's all I got now. It's like, oh, okay.
[00:57:22] Speaker C: He said, that's all I got.
[00:57:23] Speaker A: Have you heard of. Have you ever heard a record in which you produced it?
[00:57:26] Speaker F: A whole lot of them. What's the most recent one put on for my City? Can't tell me nothing. Kanye, I wish I did what's poppin? You know what I mean? Because at that time, Jack was like. Like, he had a song called I Want to See Some Ass. He was really heavy on that record. And I was like, man, that one is crazy. I don't know what's going on, but I wish I did that record. There's a couple records I did. I can't believe I did that. Right?
[00:57:51] Speaker A: Like what?
[00:57:52] Speaker F: Like his new joint. What you want? I'm like, damn, you actually did that?
[00:57:55] Speaker C: That's hard, you know what I'm saying?
[00:57:56] Speaker F: That ain't something that you usually do, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's a bunch of those records. I mean, everything on Gen X I wish I did. From hey now to whack out my marrows. Like, that's stuff I run to or work out to. And I'd be like, damn, why I ain't do this beat? Why don't I think about this?
[00:58:11] Speaker A: Let me ask you. I don't know if this is a uncomfortable question, but we had. Mannie Fresh is one of my Goats. Like, that's somebody who, like, he produced platinum gold records ten years by itself. Like, that's insane to me.
Do you ever have that thought, like what you just said, like, I wish I produced everything on Jen now. And it's like, in theory, you could if you weren't, like, if you were hands on with everything, where it's like you produce every single record from GEN Now.
[00:58:36] Speaker C: Y'all talking about gnx, right?
[00:58:38] Speaker F: Gnx. I meant. But this is a good question. Yeah, I was saying Gen X doing everything on gnx.
[00:58:43] Speaker A: Oh, shit.
[00:58:44] Speaker F: But on GEN now I do, because I got this thing where I'm like, yo, everybody should be incorporated in the sound. I don't think I should hog it. Mannie Fresh came in with them guys and already had 500 records. That's right. Everybody was like, yo, if I don't do Mannie Fresh, I'm not gonna be in the building. Yeah, it's not like that now. Some of the newer kids, they want, you know, they go and get a Pharrell. They go and get a, you know, Boy Wonder. So. So you just gotta be in that. In a space where it's like, yo, I want to get as much as I can. If I. I have the chemistry with the artist, then I'm good with that.
[00:59:17] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:59:17] Speaker F: You know what I mean?
[00:59:18] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:59:18] Speaker C: Well, I think it always helps too, when Cannon puts his hands on something regardless, like, when it comes to our. Our System.
[00:59:24] Speaker A: Even if, like a music director almost. Yeah, absolutely.
[00:59:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:28] Speaker A: Nah, for sure. The guide to sound. Do y'all ever. Do you look at Generation Now Lake as a label that needs to be mentioned with these other labels?
[00:59:36] Speaker E: Yeah, I do. I think the tdes the like.
[00:59:40] Speaker A: Cause I don't see people putting respect on y'all name when it comes. When it comes. When. If you look at accolades from a label, like, that's not one of the majors.
[00:59:49] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Like, y'all are right there.
[00:59:52] Speaker E: That's partially us, too, though. We don't really walk around. Yeah. And stick our chest out too much. And I think, like, the first two times, I think their brands are so big as individual people that it's hard to brand Generation now. So that's our focus, really, on this next. Go round and let people know, you know, what the label is. And for real, for the. Most of the time, bro, we just had our head down and was just working. We really didn't think about it. But when you sit back and look at it and when people don't include you in the conversation, that's when you're like, wait a minute.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: So you definitely feel that? Like, you feel that?
[01:00:21] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[01:00:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:22] Speaker E: We feel like we're not including the conversation. I think a lot of people don't even know. Some people think it's a management company, Some people think it's a label. They don't really. Really have the full understanding of the scope of the label. Again, I think because of who these guys are as entities on their own. You know what I mean?
[01:00:34] Speaker F: Yeah. I mean, not to take. I was gonna say, not to take away from nobody's work. But we were a label before that label, you know what I'm saying? Like, we. All them gangster grills, all the mixtapes we've done, this is a curation of albums. Like, we was doing this for a long time. So when. When people ask that question, I'll be like, man, what y'all think about Streets is watching Trap or Die. You know what I'm saying? Slim Thug, first mixtape. All these joints is just like. People started young and then grew. We were. We were hands on with that. So, you know, bar none, like, we. We gotta be mentioned with the great labels.
[01:01:07] Speaker E: I think curation, the word curation really comes from what they developed, bro. Like, really when it. When it. When it came to like, curating talent instead of just, you know. Cause you gotta think before them. Traditionally, the way you broke an artist was you put a single out, the single had the artist's name. In it Exhibit X, or my name is or. You know what I mean? That was what it was. But I think the mixtape allowed these guys to develop an identity before they kind of threw themselves out there as a major artist. So I think that, like, I think that initiated really, like, the. The new structure of a rollout. And like I said, it was just a new way to just break talent in general.
[01:01:38] Speaker C: And then, like, you know, through our label, like, we got Four Diamond Records. You know what I'm saying?
[01:01:44] Speaker A: Talk that talk.
[01:01:45] Speaker C: And even, like, you mentioned in tde, which is. Is to me, like, top tier, you know, like, and respectfully, like, even the labels that are maybe a tier under. We don't even get mentioned with them sometimes. You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, it does definitely feel kind of slighted in a way. And like Lake said, you know, we. We're never the ones that are out here necessarily complaining. We keep our heads down and do the work. But you know what I'm saying, when we look at it, you know, we. It definitely is, like, it doesn't make sense that, you know, Jenna. And the thing is, like, you know, even for the first run, it was like, people didn't even realize that it was a label. Now. Now they do know, and we're convincing them, but it's still, like, more industry known. Like, it's still for us, like, you know, to go out and let the people know it and the fans know it and understand it is, you know, our approach and what ultimately we want to be known and to get done.
[01:02:38] Speaker A: Hell yeah. You want that? You gotta get your credit, bro. If nothing else else, you know, for sure.
[01:02:42] Speaker F: Y.
[01:02:43] Speaker C: For sure.
[01:02:44] Speaker B: I got some yes or no questions from Twitter, and they. They all Twitter. Like, don't think I'm trolling. They all from Twitter.
[01:02:52] Speaker C: Rocking.
[01:02:56] Speaker B: Ask DJ Drama. When is the next album with DJ Khaled? Caught in the crossfire of the Kendrick and Drake beef in the battle overseas, the lane is wide open for Drama to drop some heat.
[01:03:08] Speaker F: Great. Great.
[01:03:11] Speaker C: That wasn't a yes or no question, but yes.
Oh, is it wide open? Say it again.
[01:03:18] Speaker B: Are you dropping it? Are you gonna drop it?
[01:03:20] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:03:20] Speaker E: Yes.
[01:03:22] Speaker B: How long? How soon?
[01:03:23] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:03:25] Speaker B: Will you drop another dedication?
[01:03:27] Speaker C: Yes.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: All right. This one not yes or no. How does he get his hat to stay on?
[01:03:32] Speaker A: Like, yeah, he's coming every time.
[01:03:34] Speaker C: I don't think it's that hard. Like, she's got a lot of hair. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not. It's nothing for it to come off. Like, it just feels more comfortable when it's on, you know? But I embrace my age, you know, it's all good. I can sit here without it and do the rest of the interview.
[01:03:49] Speaker B: That's all I had to come off when they all the way down and I got hair.
[01:03:55] Speaker C: That's gonna be the name of my last album.
[01:03:58] Speaker B: This one, not yes or no. Who was the first person to check on you after the raids?
[01:04:03] Speaker E: Your dad or your mom, probably.
[01:04:06] Speaker C: Yeah, my parents. And then Lake, probably.
[01:04:11] Speaker E: I booked him in North Carolina the.
[01:04:12] Speaker A: Day he got out.
[01:04:13] Speaker C: Yeah, like that.
[01:04:14] Speaker A: Oh, he's going to work that Friday.
[01:04:17] Speaker F: Get some money, keep your.
[01:04:21] Speaker C: Show.
[01:04:22] Speaker A: North Carolina. Yeah.
[01:04:24] Speaker E: I was managing Freeway at the time, and Freeway had a show with Petey Crack and North North Carolina. And he got out and he was like, yo, bro, this went from I ain't gonna say how much, but a whole lot.
[01:04:35] Speaker C: Yeah. To nothing.
[01:04:36] Speaker A: Zero.
[01:04:36] Speaker E: I called the promoter like, yo, Drum just got out of jail. I'll never forget.
[01:04:40] Speaker C: I still got the video of that show. Yo, there was like. That was the first time I had, like, lights on me.
[01:04:44] Speaker A: Yo.
[01:04:44] Speaker E: It was like 2500 people.
[01:04:45] Speaker C: Now.
[01:04:45] Speaker E: I'll never forget.
[01:04:46] Speaker C: I remember Petey Crack out on stage.
[01:04:47] Speaker E: And was like, wait a minute. I should have charged some more money.
[01:04:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:04:51] Speaker E: Like, they're here to see Dr. Yeah.
[01:04:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:04:54] Speaker E: Fayetteville, North Carolina.
[01:04:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:04:56] Speaker F: Never forget that shit.
[01:04:56] Speaker B: Did Clark Atlanta have any influence on Gangster Grills?
[01:05:00] Speaker C: Absolutely. I mean, Clark Atlanta had every influence. The influence on us sitting here. Like, if I would have never went to cau, I'd have never met these brothers right here. So who knows where this would have been? I mean, you know, I think we were all, in our own ways, destined for greatness. But, you know, without cau, without the auc, the Atlanta University center, late going to Morehouse, me and Cannon going to Clark. Like, I don't know if we'd be sitting here right now. Like, think about all the things we might not have gotten. Like, if he wouldn't have came to Atlanta, we wouldn't have came to Atlanta. Like, it's crazy. It's insane to think about what. Hip hop wouldn't be the same.
[01:05:38] Speaker B: Such a legendary conversation, legendary lineup. This is. This is crazy.
[01:05:44] Speaker A: This is crazy. You. You, Kai, are an author.
[01:05:48] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:05:50] Speaker A: Like, so what don't you do that? Be an easier conversation to have, easier controls.
Talk about that. Because a lot of people wait until the end of their career to write, to write a book or.
[01:06:02] Speaker D: I kind of wrote the book down there before I really, really took rap more Serious.
I was on some like. I wouldn't even call it side hustle. It was just more so what I was going through in life. I felt compelled to like help somebody else because I figured out how to help myself. Yeah, I was in school too. So it's a book about anxiety. And I realized it ain't just something that one demographic of people go through. It's just like kids go through anxiety, adults go through anxiety. So it was just something that I knew I can share with the world before I started really doing music.
[01:06:35] Speaker A: So you would die. Were you. Have you been like diagnosed with.
[01:06:38] Speaker D: Yeah, I was diagnosed with chronic anxiety. It was a minute ago. I haven't checked since. But I think I'm alright now.
[01:06:44] Speaker A: Yeah, but I'm saying for you. Cause I think I had it, but I never been diagnosed. But it's like we were heart rates and stuff like that.
[01:06:51] Speaker D: Yeah, a bunch of. You know what's crazy about anxiety is the symptoms. It's never like one thing.
[01:06:56] Speaker A: It's a combination.
[01:06:58] Speaker D: Yeah, it's just.
I feel like it's like a placebo kind of thing where it's just like whatever you fear is what you feel with anxiety. Facts. It's weird. It's weird as hell. Shortness of breath and stupid shit like that.
[01:07:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I for sure got it. And you gave it to me real bad.
Revoke.
[01:07:16] Speaker A: What?
[01:07:17] Speaker F: Revoke.
[01:07:17] Speaker B: The Revolt Summit.
[01:07:18] Speaker C: What'd I do?
[01:07:19] Speaker B: You came.
[01:07:21] Speaker A: Gina, like, remember? He judged. Yeah, Gina, she.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: I was the host on that show.
[01:07:28] Speaker E: That was her.
[01:07:29] Speaker D: That's fine.
[01:07:30] Speaker B: And I had an anxiety attack. When you walked up this gonna say, come meet DJ Drama.
[01:07:35] Speaker A: What?
[01:07:36] Speaker B: DJ Drama, the legend. And I said no.
[01:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah, she did.
[01:07:41] Speaker B: He said, come over here and meet him. I said no. And then I got. I got on that stage, he was behind me and I was panicking the entire show. Heart was through. Fell through my ass.
[01:07:51] Speaker C: Cut it out.
[01:07:52] Speaker E: Look at you now.
[01:07:53] Speaker F: Look at you now.
[01:08:02] Speaker A: I'm a shitter too. That's what it is.
[01:08:06] Speaker C: I mean, but afterwards, then I made you feel warm and comfortable.
[01:08:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I wasn't familiar with, you know, Bing bong.
[01:08:15] Speaker C: Yeah, Nims.
[01:08:15] Speaker B: You said Nims. I wasn't familiar with his tagline. So you said something to him.
[01:08:21] Speaker C: And I thought I said, fuck your.
[01:08:22] Speaker B: Life, but I'm thinking on some.
[01:08:24] Speaker C: I'm in Atlanta, I'm coming at him.
[01:08:26] Speaker E: Yeah.
[01:08:26] Speaker C: So I'm like about to go down. Fuck.
[01:08:29] Speaker B: I'm used to a nigga say some shit like that. It's gonna get pumping and jumping. So when you say I'm like, oh, shit. But I was trying to stay, you know? But yeah. No, you scared the shit out of me.
[01:08:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:08:42] Speaker B: Do we got time?
[01:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah, go ahead.
[01:08:44] Speaker B: All right, so this is my card game. It's from my hofessions podcast.
[01:08:49] Speaker D: Hofessions.
[01:08:50] Speaker B: I'm gonna just mix em up, and whichever question y'all don't wanna answer, just pass it to head.
[01:08:54] Speaker A: What?
[01:08:55] Speaker C: All right, Bab.
[01:08:55] Speaker A: Shit.
[01:08:56] Speaker B: He'll answer it.
[01:08:57] Speaker A: Nah, they got to answer the question.
Take a card.
[01:09:01] Speaker C: Pick a card.
[01:09:01] Speaker B: You just pick a card.
[01:09:03] Speaker C: Let's go right here.
[01:09:04] Speaker E: Come on, Jesus, be with me.
[01:09:06] Speaker F: Please be with me, Jesus.
[01:09:10] Speaker A: Go ahead. Oh, you want me to do.
[01:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:14] Speaker D: What the.
[01:09:14] Speaker A: All right, so I wait.
[01:09:15] Speaker B: I want to switch this with somebody.
[01:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah, he like it.
[01:09:19] Speaker D: Let's do it.
[01:09:20] Speaker A: So look, my.
[01:09:21] Speaker C: Easy.
[01:09:21] Speaker A: You got to read the card out loud and then answer it, I guess. Who? Anybody want to start?
[01:09:28] Speaker F: I'll start. Pass this card to the person who is the most likely to have sex after this.
[01:09:38] Speaker E: Easiest question of the day.
[01:09:40] Speaker F: That was the greatest shit. That was telling.
[01:09:42] Speaker A: That was easy.
Yeah.
[01:09:45] Speaker E: How do you pass it to yourself?
[01:09:46] Speaker C: I wouldn't have. Oh, yeah.
[01:09:47] Speaker F: You might have kept it. You might have kept this shit. Tomorrow. What's up?
[01:09:51] Speaker A: All right, mindset.
[01:09:52] Speaker C: Everybody over there is having sex.
[01:09:55] Speaker A: Have you ever snitched on a cheater?
No.
[01:10:00] Speaker E: Real nigga.
[01:10:01] Speaker A: No, it's not. Because I was being a real nigga. I don't want to do with it.
[01:10:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:10:04] Speaker A: I just don't want to do with it. You know what I'm saying? The homies be running. They plays. I don't want nothing to do with it. So I just log off.
[01:10:11] Speaker F: I did. I learned my lesson.
[01:10:12] Speaker A: You told on a cheater.
[01:10:14] Speaker F: It was a precarious situation, man.
[01:10:16] Speaker A: It was a precarious situation.
[01:10:18] Speaker F: It was deep.
I walked into.
I walked into one of my homies cribs with it, and he was with a girl that my other homie was really in love with.
[01:10:30] Speaker E: Oh, no, that's just being. No, that's being.
[01:10:31] Speaker F: He was really in love. And I. For four or five days, I didn't say nothing until he was. Every day was like, yo, I'm buying our car.
[01:10:37] Speaker A: Oh, yo, we going again, bro.
[01:10:39] Speaker F: He was doing all this shit.
[01:10:40] Speaker E: Yeah, hold on.
[01:10:42] Speaker F: And I finally said, yo, she like, you had it.
[01:10:44] Speaker A: Let us hood.
[01:10:44] Speaker F: Yo, stop talking about this girl, bro. I just bomb, bomb, bomb.
[01:10:50] Speaker A: You had to, though.
[01:10:51] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:10:52] Speaker F: And he was, bro. He was like, oh, it's all good. That's good. It's good. I was like, I'm just letting you know, you my man. You know what I'm saying? I just can't see it.
[01:11:00] Speaker C: Right.
[01:11:01] Speaker F: He went back and talked to the dude about it. He did. And the dude came to me like.
[01:11:04] Speaker C: Damn, dog, we cool, son.
[01:11:07] Speaker F: You ain't it. And I was like, you know, we got back together. Cool, though.
[01:11:12] Speaker A: Damn. He came back. That's. See if I give you a heads up, you can't go.
[01:11:17] Speaker F: It was a crazy situation. Shorty was like. She. She was heavy in the streets.
[01:11:22] Speaker C: She.
[01:11:22] Speaker F: She saw me at. I was at this barbecue spot.
[01:11:25] Speaker B: She was heavy in the street.
[01:11:26] Speaker F: Barbecue spot on la.
[01:11:27] Speaker C: Sounds crazy.
[01:11:28] Speaker E: I know what kind of street.
[01:11:29] Speaker F: Get the name of the store. I started to be. But she came. She came. She pulled up with some dudes. They was like, yo, so what's all that? And I'm like, yo, I was helping. You know what I'm saying? She brought some dudes to the restaurant. It was wild. Some wild going on. Yeah, yeah, that. I learned my lesson.
[01:11:44] Speaker A: That's why I stay out of it.
[01:11:45] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:11:45] Speaker F: I'm never doing that again.
[01:11:47] Speaker D: Your friend is about to die, and the only way for them to survive is if your wife performs oral sex on them in front of you. My friend just gotta die.
[01:11:56] Speaker F: My friend got to die.
[01:11:57] Speaker D: Masterpiece.
[01:12:00] Speaker A: You're not doing it.
[01:12:01] Speaker D: Hell, no.
[01:12:01] Speaker F: Hell no.
[01:12:02] Speaker A: What if it showed? Like, your man don't give a.
[01:12:04] Speaker B: What if she cheated? What if she heavy in the streets?
[01:12:07] Speaker D: Not with my man.
I don't want to see it regardless, but no. Yeah.
[01:12:12] Speaker E: No.
When was the last time you performed oral sex on someone? Like three weeks ago. I'm married, so.
[01:12:18] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:12:19] Speaker A: Three easy ones. Yeah. Good man.
[01:12:21] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:12:23] Speaker A: Got an easy one. It was Valentine's Day, Right.
[01:12:28] Speaker C: Have you ever had sex with a woman who was pregnant with another man's baby?
[01:12:33] Speaker A: Damn.
[01:12:34] Speaker C: Well, the first time was. I was like.
[01:12:37] Speaker B: The first time?
[01:12:38] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:12:39] Speaker C: I was like 17.
[01:12:41] Speaker F: That's funny as hell.
[01:12:43] Speaker B: How old was it the last time?
[01:12:47] Speaker A: With another man's baby. Was she showing?
[01:12:51] Speaker C: Yeah, a little bit.
[01:12:52] Speaker E: I can't have fun.
[01:12:53] Speaker A: She was showing.
[01:12:54] Speaker D: I heard a.
[01:12:55] Speaker E: Spying up. I can't.
[01:12:56] Speaker F: I heard this.
[01:12:57] Speaker C: I heard it.
[01:12:57] Speaker A: You a wild boy.
[01:13:00] Speaker F: Do you remember the last time, bro?
[01:13:02] Speaker A: She was. Yes.
[01:13:02] Speaker E: I just thought about it.
[01:13:04] Speaker C: Oh, my God. Remember the last time?
[01:13:06] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:13:06] Speaker C: I was probably about 40.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I know.
[01:13:12] Speaker C: I don't want to say it.
[01:13:13] Speaker F: Nah.
[01:13:13] Speaker C: Yeah, nah. I'm not into that. Honestly. I'm not into other people's girls watching me. Yeah, some people get a thrill out of that. I'm not into that because I don't want Nobody to do that to me. I, I, I live by a certain code and ethics. Like, if somebody, Especially if it's somebody I know, like, no, no, no, no, no. Now, if it's somebody just random, somebody's girls trying to give me something, like, that's different, but, you know, especially somebody's wife or that's you're about to have a child with that person, like.
[01:13:41] Speaker A: Nah, but she was showing.
[01:13:43] Speaker C: Well, this was when I was 17.
[01:13:45] Speaker A: Yeah, you said she.
[01:13:46] Speaker C: No, but what about the most recent one? No, I didn't know.
[01:13:48] Speaker A: Like, you didn't know she was pregnant?
[01:13:49] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, not at all. Like, I didn't know until, like, he called me.
[01:13:55] Speaker A: Like, the dude called you?
[01:13:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:13:56] Speaker D: Damn.
[01:13:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:13:57] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:13:58] Speaker F: He reached out.
[01:13:59] Speaker A: How do you get to, like, bro, you find out?
[01:14:02] Speaker C: Because it's. It's social media. Like, you know, put two and two together. Yes, people are easily detectives, especially when something's already up. And she had told me, like, she wasn't with the dude no more. I was like, yo, what's up? You got me all tangled up.
[01:14:16] Speaker B: Like, was you worried that it was yours?
[01:14:18] Speaker C: No, I knew it wasn't mine.
The streets thought it was mine.
[01:14:22] Speaker E: The streets. One thing in common, Gina. The streets, everything in common.
[01:14:27] Speaker C: The streets thought it was mine. I knew it wasn't mine, bro.
[01:14:30] Speaker B: Let me get on Twitter.
[01:14:31] Speaker A: That's crazy as hell, bro. Y'all be. Y'all wild boys.
[01:14:35] Speaker C: Nah, nah, we cool.
[01:14:36] Speaker B: We should have did this on whole fashion.
[01:14:40] Speaker A: Two more things. Did. Did y'all. Did you sign up? Did y'all give Summer Walker her social handles?
[01:14:46] Speaker C: No. Summer Walker. So my ex wife is named Summer Walker.
She was a, like, a video vixen in the mid-2000s. And she. We got married around, like, oh, seven. Around, like, 0708. I had met her at my 5001s video, and then she also helped me build Mean Street Studios. Like, she was super into, like, art and design, you know, and, like, before we had our old studio. And then she. She kind of always used to push me. Like, yo, you need a. You need a dope studio. Like, this studio doesn't represent you, you know? And I put it in her hands, like, yo, like, all right, let me see what you can do.
[01:15:28] Speaker A: Build a studio.
[01:15:29] Speaker C: Yeah, she. She wound up really building Mean Street Studio. So one thing that Summer used to always do all the time. You know how women are with social media, she used to always go on Twitter and, like, search her name. Like, always search her name, like, Summer Walker. I'm not going front Like, I didn't used to search my name too. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people search their names, but one day she was searching her name and she saw Summer Walker and the name Summer Walker on YouTube. And it wasn't her, and it was this young girl playing a guitar. So, you know, at the time, like, we were. We were doing. We're building generation now. This is. I think we just started courting Uzi and what have you. And she. She was trying to work in, you know, music, kind of figuring it out. She was helping manage me a little bit with Lake at the time, early on, and long story short, like, she wound up finding Summer Walker and she linked up with her. They. They got together, they met, you know, and she started managing her. At the time me and her went through. At the time, we had. Went through our divorce, so we had separated, and she went on to continue to, like, do art and design and build studios and lvr. Lvrn. Shout out to my guys over at lvrn. They hired Summer to build their studio. So during that process, she was like, yo, I got. I got this new artist that I'm working with named Summer Walker, and, you know, she took him to lvrn and, you know, they saw the talent and they saw the vision and they signed her and the rest is history.
[01:17:02] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[01:17:03] Speaker C: Summer, my Summer. My ex wife Summer actually had the Summer Walker handle on Instagram and Twitter, and she gave it to Summer Walker. Like she's. Because I was her artist, so she gave it to her.
[01:17:15] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[01:17:16] Speaker B: Is this the first time?
[01:17:17] Speaker E: Yeah, I think this first time you told that story.
[01:17:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, because I. Yeah, that's. That's crazy.
The. Did you have anything? Because I have one more thing I want to ask you.
[01:17:28] Speaker C: Somebody asked you to ask me that?
[01:17:29] Speaker E: No, that was. That was a head question.
[01:17:31] Speaker C: Oh, you asked me that? Yeah, yeah. You research first ten. Yeah.
[01:17:33] Speaker A: Okay, cool.
[01:17:35] Speaker F: Yeah.
[01:17:41] Speaker A: Last thing last year, was it still praying. West side Good fire tape, bro. I'm a huge wrestling fan, right? So when I seen the Psycho Sid, like, I'm like, oh, like, I'm thinking he doing some wwe. And I'm like. And then they came. I'm like, man, there's some drama shit. Like, I was not disappointed, but I was like, yeah, you know, I thought he was doing something with wwe. But anyway, was that already a concept before you got involved? Like, was he already on that?
[01:18:10] Speaker C: Yeah, he was already on that. Like, that's gun shit.
He's been on that So I just come in, do my one, two. Like, he, he hits me every probably four or five months. And, you know, that's somebody who actually, in my opinion, still doesn't get a lot of credit for the resurgence of Gangsta Grylls. Like, even before the Tyler Project, Gun was one of those people that reached out during a time when mixtapes weren't the. The it thing to do at that moment and wanted to do a gangster girls project. So I think me and Gun, we probably in like four or five. Yeah, four or five tapes. So. Yeah. But, you know, wrestling is his thing. That's. That's his vision. And, you know, he's killing it with the fourth rope. Like, you know, he's. He's all the way in, man.
[01:18:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:18:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:18:50] Speaker A: So it's Wrestlemania.
[01:18:51] Speaker F: He still owe me that wrestling shirt from Complex Contour.
[01:18:53] Speaker A: You with that?
[01:18:54] Speaker F: Yeah. I never got. It was ridiculous. The line was, I'm like, bro, what am I doing?
I'm just floating around trying to get this shirt and just never happen.
[01:19:02] Speaker A: I'm like, I got you, though. I'll put the call in for you. I got you. But no, I, I, I'm good, bro. We, we in some time now, but thank y'all for coming through. Absolutely. Kai, Cash, do. Do we have. I know we said we rolling out, but do we have a.
[01:19:18] Speaker D: My bad.
[01:19:19] Speaker A: Do we have a release?
[01:19:21] Speaker D: Yeah. Cash rules, April 25th.
[01:19:23] Speaker A: Okay, bet.
[01:19:24] Speaker D: Yeah, straight to it.
[01:19:25] Speaker A: Okay. Straight to it.
[01:19:25] Speaker D: Cause the music's coming.
[01:19:26] Speaker A: For clarification, it's not a Gangsta Grylls. It's not a gangster Grill, but it's coming.
[01:19:31] Speaker D: Gangsta Grylls is coming, but yeah, April 25th. Cash rules will be everywhere. You see it and what you want out now.
[01:19:36] Speaker C: There we go.
[01:19:37] Speaker D: Shout out to you for helping Elliot.
[01:19:40] Speaker C: Say your name.
[01:19:42] Speaker D: Shout out to Elliot.
[01:19:45] Speaker C: Shout out to Jesus.
[01:19:46] Speaker A: I've been wondering, like, how often I be in group chats now. Cause I be like, oh, thank you, Dron, for you reached out to me, bro. Like, you never. You Lake Canon. Y'all never get credit for, like, the behind the scenes. Like, y'all always. Lake, always tapping in, you know, like, y'all always looking out. Even on your platform, too. I'm sorry. We didn't even get a shit to talk about that. Don't worry about it.
[01:20:08] Speaker F: I'm good.
[01:20:08] Speaker A: But, like, y'all always looking out, like, for other people and you using your platform and, you know, drown specifically. You hit me, like, last year, it was like, you know, DJ head, dj. DJ of the Year. And I was just like, fire. That's crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? I was looking at the message, and I'm like, fire. I just. I don't even know. I don't think I just said thank you or something like that. I don't know. I didn't know what the fuck to say.
[01:20:30] Speaker E: That's dope to see, bro. Cause, you know, I know especially where you come from, bro. So just to see this. Evolution is dope as fuck. And for real, like, the dopest thing for me to see is that these niggas think that, like, this is this blasphemous person. But you've literally been the same. Same person since day one.
[01:20:47] Speaker A: Like, when I met you with glasses.
[01:20:48] Speaker E: They was always like, yo, this gonna say something crazy every time.
[01:20:50] Speaker A: According. I just got here last year.
[01:20:53] Speaker E: Nah, nah. This how it goes.
[01:20:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:20:55] Speaker C: Your industry plan. Welcome to the club.
[01:20:59] Speaker A: Nah, but thank y'all, man. For. For real, like, I really appreciate that. The Lineage is legendary. And are y'all looking at other artists still?
[01:21:07] Speaker F: We are.
[01:21:07] Speaker A: Of course. You have some on the radar already. They gotta get through Canton.
[01:21:11] Speaker E: We got one from the coast that we looking at. I'm going to tell you about it when we get off here.
[01:21:14] Speaker A: Oh, shit. Okay. All right, well, let's have a conversation. God damn it. Thank you all for coming through. Generation Now. Kai Cash, Don Cannon, late, and DJ Drama is effective immediately.
