Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: I'm DJ Head, and it's your favorite homegirl, Gina Views.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: Welcome to another week of the show. Thank you for subscribing, thank you for viewing, and thank you for commenting because it's been a lot of that shit this last week. We appreciate you. A lot of things brewing that we will and won't talk about, so appreciate you. Hit that subscribe button.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: You all right?
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm great. It's a lot of shit going on outside.
How's your week been?
[00:00:29] Speaker B: I had a good week. I.
We're going viral.
We're going viral. I've been on Shade Room twice this month.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:00:40] Speaker B: I turned my phone off for a day.
I went on a boat.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: You did go on a boat.
[00:00:46] Speaker B: I went on a boat. I went to go do some hood rat shit with my friends.
I finished Beauty in Black.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Me, too.
[00:00:54] Speaker B: And I'm in numbers.
[00:00:57] Speaker A: What do you mean?
[00:00:58] Speaker B: The Bible.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: Oh, and you actually pacing.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I'm behind, actually.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: No, I'm just saying, like, when people be like, oh, I'm gonna read my Bible, they never like. It'd be like a chapter a month type shit.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: Oh, no. Once I commit to something, I do it.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I do it.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: You seem like a type that you. Taking notes, writing stuff down, highlighting.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: I started taking notes when I was in Genesis, and I realized that, well, I've always known that I wasn't the best note taker from college.
So I have an issue where when I'm taking notes, I write down everything rather than what you're supposed to actually, like, notate. So once I realized that I was writing Noah's whole family tree down, I said, what am I doing?
Like, what?
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Noah's whole family trees.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Nobody's gonna quiz me on this. And, you know, like, I don't have to treat this like an assignment, but. Yeah, no, I'm a horrible note taker. And I actually, you know, like, you're in school, you get a highlighter to highlight things. Right. The most important things. I'm the type that's gonna highlight the whole shit.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: Like, it's the whole chapter, so it defeats the purpose of the highlight.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know how to take notes. Like, I'm a. Just. That's just what it is. I'm a horrible note taker.
[00:02:12] Speaker A: You do. I mean, I've seen you do, like. Okay, so is that different than, like, doing show prep?
[00:02:19] Speaker B: No. Show prep.
Well, sometimes. No.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Cause you really good at show prep.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: Well, for show prep, in my mind, I'm Thinking headline.
[00:02:29] Speaker A: Oh, okay, got you.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: So I'm thinking headline. I'm thinking algorithm. I'm thinking what are people most interested in and what am I most interested in?
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Got it.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: So that's why with fabulous. Like, why was you in Brown Sugar? Yeah, I want to know that.
Things that people probably forget or whatever. But how was your week?
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Week was very interesting to say the least.
We all over the timeline. I've had more conversations about everything that's going on than I would like to.
But I will say and oh, you know what? I'll take this moment to give us our credit. Right. Because everything going on between.
Well, your Ari Lennox thing that went crazy, like, that was a fire ass conversation between just two homegirls.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:03:15] Speaker A: The seeing you do the women's panel was dope because I really like Libra Jolie's album and I wasn't familiar with BK that much. Like I have to dive into her stuff. But I went and listened to the entire Libra DRO Lee album because of your women's panel and because of the homie, he managed her. It's hard.
And it kind of made me think that I need to start listening to stuff that I wouldn't normally listen to. Because to be honest with you, the way I consume music and media now, it'd be like. Like a Libra Jolie will come. Like somebody will send me her album. Like Amir send me her album, whatever. I'd be like, oh, that's a Gina thing. And so I won't listen to it. Cause I'm like, oh, Gina, I know she gonna listen to this and then present to the show or present to our listeners or our audience the right way that it needs to be served up and I don't need to do that. But also it made me think, like, damn, I'm still missing good shit.
[00:04:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:06] Speaker A: As just a consumer. So I started just listening to just a whole bunch of just random people's music. Like, just people just. I would just find somebody and just listen to their stuff. And I don't know specific who I would shout out, but that's something that I'm trying to implement into my regiment more.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: You know, I think that's probably something that like media personalities don't talk about.
And I don't even know if everybody share the same sentiment. But I actually have difficulty listening to new music now because I have to listen to it from a professional point of view rather than like a consumer or a fan.
And it doesn't. Like now I don't feel unless it's somebody from like, obviously fabless. Drake Wale, Lil Wayne, yg, whatever they drop, I'm going straight to it. Like, regardless of what's going on, I'm stopping. Drop everything. Craig's in trouble. Come quick. I'm going straight to my music app to listen to them. But anybody else, it feels like a job, you know? Like, it feels like I'm listening to it because I have to. Because I have to talk about it. Cause I have to know versus before you be listening to some music. And that's what makes you fall in love with it and be able to have conversations about it.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: Because you are just with the homies. Yeah, man. Did you hear so and so's project or.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: Yeah, but now it's like you gotta dissect it, you gotta unpack it, you gotta talk about shit that's in the cr. You say you the way this damn social media work.
If you say some shit that's already listed in the credits, if you ask. Okay, perfect example.
London on a track.
[00:05:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: When we was having the Summer Walker conversation about him writing Bitter People was in the comments. Like, how y' all didn't know this?
Clearly.
Yeah, he's in the credits. But we look at London as a producer, facts, you know, Like, I'm not
[00:05:58] Speaker A: looking at him as the co writer of his own records, of his original
[00:06:00] Speaker B: of his own diss track.
[00:06:01] Speaker A: Yeah, the record's about him. He like, man, we finna.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's like when you. When we talk about music, like people expect you to be an expert. And it doesn't matter what generation you're born in or what era you were raised in. People was in my TikTok comments. Remember we was having the City High conversation and you was saying that it was a thripple.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:21] Speaker B: So obviously Karma, that group was out in 2001. 2002. So it was people in my comments, like how she didn't know this and I asked the question, what was you doing at six years old?
What was you doing at six years old?
[00:06:37] Speaker A: Right. You know, like, you wasn't in grown folks business.
[00:06:40] Speaker B: You wasn't in grown folk business at the same thing with Now. I think a lot of people didn't know this, though. The Party up thing with dmx.
Yeah.
[00:06:50] Speaker A: I mean, we kind of knew, but that's. I get why people wouldn't know.
[00:06:53] Speaker B: That's still something that obviously, if you was two when it happened and you don't have social media, you know, like you don't know. So it's like these Days like, nigga, I was two. It's like all the time.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: I was two.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: I was a kid. Like now.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: I didn't have adult teeth, bro.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: No.
Probably couldn't read.
[00:07:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: You know, like, but it's just even still, like, we didn't have social media back then to give us backstories and, you know, and things like that. Most of the things you have to find out in interviews. I wasn't watching interviews for real when I was a kid. Did I watch 106 and park? Yes. But they never really dived deep into, like deep death conversations about, you know,
[00:07:33] Speaker A: that wasn't for that.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: That wasn't for that. I don't even know if it was.
I think that's what the magazines was for.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: Nah, Jaleesa had a show.
Remember she had. What was Jaleesa's show called?
[00:07:44] Speaker B: Jaleesa had a show.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: It was a one on one and that was kind of a deep dive conversation type.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: And Jaleesa's show probably came on while we were at school.
[00:07:51] Speaker A: Touche.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: Because after 106 and park went off, it was either shows or movies.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: You right, I remember. I only remember two of them.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: We didn't even get to see Rap City.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: You right, that shit came on early.
[00:08:02] Speaker B: Rap City came on while we were still in school.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: But I remember Julisa had a show. And I remember Teen Summit.
[00:08:07] Speaker B: Okay. And I never seen Teen Summit.
[00:08:08] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:09] Speaker B: I know of Teen Summit because of, you know, obviously that's part of the culture. But I can't even remember.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: I don't remember who hosted or none of that.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: She recently passed away. I don't wanna say her name.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: Ananda. No, she was on mtv. Ananda Lewis. She was mtv.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: She wasn't on Teen Summit.
[00:08:27] Speaker A: That wasn't mtv, was it? That was bet. I think we both got computers in front of us.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: She was on Teen Summit. That was something that people that said when she passed away recently.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: I believe she was again. I never seen it, so.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it was Ananda Lewis. Rest in peace to Ananda Lewis. That's crazy. You know what I keep forgetting?
We know more as adults. I didn't know back in the day that, like MTV and BET was the same kind of company.
Like, it's a company called Viacom. Yeah, it's a company called Viacom. So MTV, BET, VH1, they were all owned by the same company at one point. So then, you know, it was easier for people to move throughout the networks and whatnot too.
[00:09:10] Speaker B: When you were a kid or younger, did you think that BET Was only for black people.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Okay? I had stages, as when I was a little kid, I didn't know what the fuck BET was. Cause when they were like, it's Black Entertainment Television, I was so naive that I didn't know the difference between black television and regular television. I didn't know that it was like, no, this is for us, by us.
I didn't. And it was a dude name. I think it was Bob Johnson, who was the owner of bet.
And I started learning about him as I became an adolescence. But then when I started watching the video shows, the rap Cities and the TRLs, like, I was a TRL kid, because to me, it was marketed to me in a certain way. And I didn't know no better. Like, I didn't know that this was our program. This was for our programming over here. And this was like, kind of like their programming. And it was just the way that it was marketed to me. So I had two iterations of thoughts on bet. I thought BET was one, a lower tier.
And I didn't value it as such because I didn't know no better. And then as I got older, I realized, oh, this is our thing. And that's when I started gravitating over.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: You thought BET was tubi?
[00:10:23] Speaker A: I thought it was. No, it was literally just because, to be honest with you, I didn't have cable, so I only caught the. These cable television networks. When I went to other people's house.
They was watching TRL and they was watching mtv because it was like, oh, you watching. Like, we don't watch. Like, we watching Carson Daly. And it was just like, okay, I guess that's what I'm supposed to be watching. Like, I didn't know no better.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: My household only watched TRL when it was black Guest there because 106 and park was always better than TRL.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: That was later. See you. You younger than me at one point. It wasn't like that.
[00:11:00] Speaker B: Really?
[00:11:01] Speaker A: No. Hell, no. No, they didn't. It wasn't really like a lot of black people on TRL like that. Like. And I don't want to misquote this how, but I'm going to tell you, and I want to have him come up here and actually shout out to. Actually shout out to Sean Stockman from Boyz II Men.
Sean Stockman told me a story, and I don't want to fuck it up, but he told me that they weren't allowed to be on trl.
And this might have been a private conversation. Now, he said he spoke about it in public Before, So I don't wanna blow the spot up. But they didn't really fuck with us like that until later on once they kind of fought for it a little bit. And then they started allowing the black artists to really participate. But it wasn't. It wasn't like a written rule that the black artists weren't allowed or weren't welcome. It was just kind of like, oh, we'll take the Backstreet Boys. Oh, we'll take them. We'll take Britney Spears. But it was like.
Like, it's kinda like the radio station y' all want so and so. Like. Nah, it'd be kinda like that. It wouldn't be an official mandate, though.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: How many years does TRL predate 106 and park?
[00:12:03] Speaker A: That I don't know. We have to look it up, but.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: Cause if 106 and park, best error is free and AJ then. When was TRL ever better than 106 and park?
[00:12:11] Speaker A: It was earlier.
Carson, I think, was the original host of trl. Right. And so when they launched that show, if my memory serves, again, I didn't have cable, so I don't know when it started. I remember how I perceived it from my. I'll give you the official. And I'll tell you how I perceived it. How I perceived it was Carson came on as the face of pop culture, right? He was the one that was presenting pop culture to the country he was doing it for. And then you had the other guys, right? You had Sway. Sway was the only black face I saw on MTV for, like, two years, if I'm keeping it a buck, you know what I mean?
I didn't even know that black people were at MTV until I saw Sway.
[00:12:58] Speaker B: So the first episode of TRL aired in 98.
[00:13:01] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: I think 106 and park came in year 2000. 106 and park came in year 2000.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: September 11th.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah. So I remember.
I literally remember.
I remember TRL existing in a space unmatched. It was uncontested. It was the only show that you can go to to go back to Sean. I wanna have. I'll have Sean Stockman come up here.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: I'm just still trying to figure out when was TRL ever better than 106 and Park? Those two years, 106 and park didn't exist.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying.
It was the only thing to watch.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: I think when 106 and park came, yeah, it took. It took the wind out of the sails for that. Because hip hop also became mainstream culture. There was a gap. If you don't remember, that's where Eminem came in, because he was against all the teeny bopper and he was dissing everybody and shit. And then once hip hop became the mainstream forefront again, that's when 106 and park thrived. And that's when it started.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: TRL's competition wouldn't have been Rap City.
[00:14:08] Speaker A: I don't remember the timeline on Rap City.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Rhapsody's from the 80s.
[00:14:11] Speaker A: I didn't watch Rap City because again, when I was watching at other people's house, they wasn't watching that.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: Mm, mm, mmkay.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: But I think when 106 and park came, I think it was perfect time, perfect storming, because hip hop became the thing.
[00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: So.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Well, are we talking about television and entertainment?
J. Cole has been making his way around the media street man.
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Listen, I'm so glad that he is talking.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: Because that's one thing we be critical about is like niggas don't say nothing. But our friend of the show, our family, Irene is here. She's one of the.
She runs our socials and stuff. Irene is one of the biggest J. Cole fans. And I remember she was sending us in the group chat and I was just like. I was so happy that J. Cole would talk because I didn't think that he would do an interview. And also on top of that, I'm so glad he talked to Cam'. Ron. Like shout out to Nadeska. I know that one came first, but when we all saw that promo of him walking that room while cam' Ron was on the air, and he goes.
And he goes, a lawsuit? For real.
He was like. Yeah, n. Like, I'm glad that that happened.
[00:15:30] Speaker B: Mm. Yeah. I don't grab the wrong thing.
Did you grab the right thing?
Did you grab the right thing? Okay.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: What?
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Cause last time you told me for not telling you.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Yeah, you gotta tell me.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: Okay. But this is the thing that I was really, really, really proud about because we were the ones who was saying that we didn't think that the interview was gonna happen.
And I think the last time we talked about Cam' Ron and J. Cole, I said like, Cam' Ron deserves that interview.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: When I saw the clip, like with the promo of it, of him, like, fake, like crashing, you know, the studio and stuff, I was so freaking happy.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: I was so freaking happy. Because it's like that out of all the interviews and everybody that he sat down with and stuff, I thought I felt like Cameron was the most deserving of that.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I think he was the most deserving. But I also think that it was like, that's those cultural moments that we look for. Yeah, that's those moments that you be like, Dan, you remember when. When J. Cole pulled up on Cameron? That's going to be one of them. Yeah, it's kind of like, like the control verse or the, like that record or, you know, those types of things. Like. Or even when.
When I remember when.
I think it was when I found. When we found out that Drake and Future was doing what a Time to Be Alive. It was like one of those types of moments. It was like culturally impactful. It's the two niggas that's running shit. And it's like, oh, shit. Cam' Ron is obviously one of the. A juggernaut in the media space at this point. And then J. Cole dropped his biggest album ever. At this point. He finna go on his biggest tour ever. And them linking up and then having the conversations that we want them to have.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: So I was like, this is fucking dope.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
What's your take on the actual conversation with him and Cameron?
[00:17:23] Speaker A: It was a couple of them.
I love the way that J. Cole was engaged in the way that. I like that Cole kind of got carried away and he kept like saying that, like, my bad, my bad. But I like the fact that he got lost in telling Cameron everything.
Cause I know like, they had mentioned that they had spoke, but they didn't. He didn't really. They didn't really dive into details about the timeline of everything.
And then I like that Cole has wherewithal enough to know to serve the fans and to serve the community. It's like, hey, we wanna know what's up, bro. So he literally painted the entire picture timeline the whole time, the whole way down from when he. When Cameron first did the verse for him. And then he was like, man, I kept doing this, I kept doing that. But then he explained it and now it all makes sense. Yeah, it's like, cam, I wasn't brushing you off, bro. I was learning how to mix a record on tape. Then I like, I kept pushing the album back. Then these niggas got into it, pushed the album, went in and remade a whole nother album, you know what I'm saying?
And he kept reiterating, I don't just talk just to talk. Yeah, I want to. I want to promote my music, bro. Like, that ain't what I'm on. So I loved and Cameron, this is why I with Cam.
A lot of people who I don't say try to do what we do. But a lot of people who do what we do cut the artist off when they be talking. I'm like, let them talk.
And Cam sat there and just let him talk. And I was like, damn. Like, I really with that. Like, not. I don't know if Cam. I don't think Cam has had. If I had to guess, I don't think he's had official, like, broadcasting or media training, but him just having to wherewithal to let Cole just get all that shit off. Yeah, I thought that was dope. The second part, I mean, the next part to me that stood out was the part about when Cole was talking about the battle, I think.
So I watched the Nadeska interview.
Cole didn't talk about Dot being on the fall off the original version, if my memory serves me correctly. I like that Cole kind of, like, gave that to Cam as, like, this is what happened.
These niggas get into it, and I'm like, oh, not now. He was on my album. We had two records together. I like that he saved that nugget for Cam.
And I just felt like that was like, all right, here, bro. This is my. I'm finna repay you in a way that is gonna benefit your platform and your show and stuff like that. Cause, you know, Cole is not stupid. He understands how to play the game and all that.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:05] Speaker A: The other thing that stood out to me was at the end, when.
Not the end, but when I like that Cam also acts straight. Cam is like you, like. Cam would just say, fabulous. Why was you in Brown Sugar? You know what I mean? Whereas me, I kind of, like, work through my thought to try to tell them where I'm going. And so it takes me a while to get the question out. But I like the Cam just like, yo, when last time you talked to them niggas, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't come from an era of that I come from an era of. I have to explain to you why I'm asking you what I'm asking you. And so I think it's just a different style of things. So I appreciate seeing that
[00:20:45] Speaker B: with the lawsuit conversation. It showed me how two people can have a shared experience but have two opposite versions of events.
So I thought that was cool. Just to see how this is Cam'. Ron's. This is his side of it. And then J. Cole starts to unpack and peel back the layers to show you.
I know this is what you think that I was doing, but this is what was actually going on. And I feel like without those type of conversations, that's how miscommunication happens. That's how people stop being friends. You know, that's how shit goes sour. Because.
Yeah, because I have an assumption of what I think you're doing and you're not communicating to me what's actually going on. But it's like, even if I do communicate to you, it might still come off as bullshit. It might still come off as if I'm, you know, like giving you the run around.
I know you mentioned that he didn't give.
Cause I didn't watch the Nedesko one, but if he didn't give her that. Another thing that he said he was not going to give us was the actual situation with the Diddy fight.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: And right now he's being dragged on Twitter for using the phrase, I'm not gonna kick nobody while they're down. And I feel like this era of the Internet, they're so comfortable with dogpaling.
And that's one thing that I said when I got fired, like with dude, like just. Cause everybody else going on press runs and talking about this shit everywhere and stuff like that. Like, I'm not gonna do it, even though I'm probably gonna go viral for it. You know, everybody wanna hear what I gotta say. Being the only female, you know, like in a situation. But I think it's just so corny to kick a n while he down. Even with them being the scum of the between my toes, you know, like, even with you being the most shittiest, nastiest, just demonic, evil motherfucker. Like, to me, you a pussy if somebody already down and then you dogpiling and jumping in. And that's to me not saying that with this situation, but like with people like that wanna jump in and want to jump on the bandwagon or tearing somebody up.
You're the example of a buster ass bitch who would kick somebody while they getting beat up, but you wouldn't take off first.
You not gonna get cracking first, but you gonna take off while other niggas is like, you know, like jumping on them and stuff. So I really do appreciate that he said that and I appreciate that he kept it real. Like, no, it happened. The version that y' all have is not true, but it did happen. And I'm not doing it right now because that would have been everywhere that would have been.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: That would have been everywhere that would have been on cnn, you know what I'm saying?
To that point though, he said that punch Version wasn't accurate. And then I saw Punch post cap on X.
And so that story has been told multiple times, to my knowledge. Right?
[00:23:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: I wasn't there. I can't speak on it, but I have heard two different stories of that incident, and they sound similar to what I. To what is out there. You know what I mean?
[00:24:04] Speaker B: The stories that I heard, they all sound similar.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Right? So.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: But it's a game of telephone.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: Telephone. Yeah. And so I do appreciate him. I like that Cole has been very transparent this whole time.
I won't say this whole. I mean, he's done two conversations that I've seen. I know he's doing other ones now,
[00:24:21] Speaker B: but there's been 7pm in Brooklyn, too.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Shout out to Kaz and Melo and them. But I think from the perception, again, we don't know, because I know niggas like to act like we know. I don't know. I don't know what he's. What his press run is looking like, but it appears that he's going into these rooms with people with no sheet. You know, they send us a sheet saying, you can't talk about this. Don't talk about that. It seems like he's just going in and just being honest, and I fuck with that. And I think that. And to your point, I think that that's fair for people to say what he said instead of sending us a sheet of saying, don't ask Cole about the Diddy fight. When Cole is here, be like, hey, I'm not getting into that. It happened. Yes, it happened, bro. But I'm not finna get into that. And then we'll move on.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: You know what I mean? And then if those people choose not to move on, on those prospective platforms, then, you know, just not to fuck with them. But I think it's kind of weird when people try to control the narrative ahead of time. It's like, hey, bro, just come in and have a conversation about the things. You know, what's going on right now, you know what people want to know about, and you know why you're here.
So let's talk about things. And whatever it is you don't want to talk about, just say, I don't want to talk about it now. If you saying, I don't want to talk about it, that creates a story in itself. That's probably the only reason I see us not bringing something up. But I really appreciate Cole being willing to stand in the line of the fire of everything that he's been going through, including when he addressed the apology, that's the other thing that I wanted to talk about, too.
I've heard different renditions of how that went down. It's pretty accurate to what Cole said.
Cause my homies that are a couple. I got a couple homies that's over there with him, and they're like, man, I'm not fucking with that shit. Like, to this day, I don't like that he did that. You know what I mean? Like, he got on that stage. He didn't. And the thing is, when it all went down and I don't think I've ever told. I don't think I've ever spoke on this.
I have friends and one of my homies, his name is Mixed by Ali, Mixed Bali. If you don't know, do your Googles.
They hit me up to do a tour.
I went on tour, and it was literally on a Dreamville bus. It was wrapped. It said Dreamville Festival. We were on the. We did a tour that was called Road to Dreamville Fest. And we were just going to cities across the country, going to different college towns and doing workshops with students.
I'm on this tour bus.
The beef starts to get cracking while I'm on the fucking Dreamville tour bus. Okay?
Like, I've never told this story because it's just like, it didn't make sense at the time, but I have a point to this.
So everything is going down all at the same time. The tour bus. The tour ends at Dreamville Fest, okay? So we're going city to city. We hop off the tour bus, we go to the college, we do a workshop. I'm hosting the workshops. Like, I'm the one hosting the damn workshops for the Road to Dream, the fest.
And as we get towards the end of the tour, the beef is starting to heat up. Cole drops this.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: I do remember when you.
I remember you going on that.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: You remember that?
[00:27:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I remember that.
[00:27:47] Speaker A: I just ain't never talked about it because it was a little diet, it was a little chilly.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: We also didn't have the show yet.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: Yeah, but.
So what ended up happening was. Long story short is we get to North Carolina, so we're out there.
It's full on.
It's smoke, right?
It's full on smoke. Okay?
I take a picture. It's still up to this day.
I take a fucking picture at. At, like, at our. At our stop with all. With. Not all, but with a lot of the Dreamville homies there. I do an interview with Jid, okay?
I'm wearing the Mr. Morale. And the big steppers. Hoodie on purpose, right? Hosting the Dreamville shit.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: Messy.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: And I was like, bro, I'm out of pocket for this. Like, because. Because at the time, Cole jumped out there.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:43] Speaker A: Like, and again, I'm getting to my point. Cole jumped out there. So I'm like, oh, that's okay. This is what it is. Let me tell you what's up with me. I'm not finna make no announcements or nothing, but I posted a photo at the thing, front and back. Yeah, I got the big. You see, just big steppers on my shit. I'm just like. You can't even see my face. I'm just. It just say big steppers. So I post that, right?
And I remember the shout to the homie, Barry Hefner.
Barry walk in, if you don't know, Barry Cole mentioned him in the desk interview. Barry manages jid and, you know, he's earth game responsible and all that. But Barry walks in and like, oh, hell no, nigga.
Barry immediately goes up, nigga, fuck all that, nigga. You know where you at? My right. So he going up, right?
And that's my bro. Like, that's the homie. Like, that's my nigga, for real. So we get in, like, we didn't get into it. Like it was an issue, but we having, like, a friendly, like, you got me up moment. And so he, like, man, he got these California out here.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: Woo.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: They all on. Is doing our. Like, he. He fully engaged in that energy of what J. Cole described talking to Nadeska. Like, I'm not with this shit. Like, all that. All the Kumbaya. If it's up, it's up.
So, long story short, I did that. I made my move just on some, like, hey, here's my little subtle. I'm this where I'm at with it. Boom.
My point is, it's like two niggas that have been consistent the entire time. It's Cole and fucking Barry, right?
[00:30:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:22] Speaker A: Cole on one side of the fence was like, bro, I feel amazing. Like, I feel so bl. And he reiterated in the interview with Cam, he was like, bro, I felt the best I ever felt after I got that off my chest. Like, I just felt relieved. And you got the homie Barry. Like, man, fuck that shit, nigga. Like, even to this day, like, he'll call me and be like, man, I ain't feeling that shit, bro. Like, if it's, you know. Cause he just a different kind of different cut of nigga.
I say that to say, when Cole was talking about after he did the apology, and he was like. He told everybody to stand down. Like he told his team.
He was telling Cam. Like I told everybody, bro, let me walk through this.
Let me just go through this solo. I chose to make this. My wife is the only person that knew what I planned on doing. He left E.B. out of it, which E knows everything. You know what I'm saying? And he didn't tell nobody. He was like, bro, let me do this on my own. I thought it was so dope for him to own that in the moment. It ain't like a after the fact. I thought it was dope for him to tell the homies that in the moment. And everybody respected it. We didn't get no diss records. We didn't get no responses. You might like, we had backdoor, like, you know, conversations and groups and texts and shit like that, but there was no public statement from anybody. You never got nothing from Boss. You never got nothing from Jid. You didn't get nothing from Kaz. Kaz is from la. You know what I'm saying? And I just thought that it was like, damn, bro. I really respect that because protocol is lost in this day and age of social media and clout.
The second thing that I really respected and fucked with was how Cole kept it real. Like, bro, no, no, no. I chose to do this, and my niggas wasn't going.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:05] Speaker A: You know what I mean? So not only did Cole have to fight the Internet, the world, and everybody kicking his back in, he was fighting his own niggas about it. And through all of it, he's like, bro, I feel great. It's like, bro, I'm not there mentally. I know you be talking about how you not where I am mentally. I'm not there either. You know what I'm saying? That's a different level.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: He.
I feel like he also spoke from a fan's perspective. That hasn't really been acknowledged, and it's probably an unpopular opinion, but the fan who's actually split down the middle, you know? And he said that during that time, that in 2024, when everybody was beefing, it was like, politics. You either Democrat or you Republican, which is freaking real. I'm from the west coast, but Drake is my favorite rapper, you know? So it's like. Like how he said, like, these. Both my friends, I'm happy that Kendrick is having such an amazing year, but I'm mad that it's off the back of or off the strength of Drake being torn down, which Is that's literally the same way I felt because it almost felt like I have tweets praising both of them, and I got dragged. It don't matter who I'm praising.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: Yeah. For both tweets.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it don't matter. If I praise Kendrick, I get dragged by Drake friends. If I praise Drake friends, I get dragged by Kendrick fans. But you damn near had to pick a side, and it's like, for us, we pick Kendrick, then that means you're a West coast biased. But then as a fan, if you pick Drake, you're a delusional Drake fan.
You know what I'm saying? Like, it's no.
It never was no middle ground during the battle. So I was happy that he touched on that because that was one thing that I was trying to avoid. Like, obviously, I love to if n rapping. N rapping, but I'm gonna call a spade a spade. If my favorite rapper lost, my favorite rapper lost. I'm not gonna sit here and, you know, like, fake it, but at the same time, I'm motherfucking proud of the West Coast. We got the pop out. Niggas is performing. The homies is at the pop out on this corporate stage, gang banging.
Like, we having a party in the trailers, you know, like, it was freaking cr. So it was a win for us. But it's like, damn, we stomping on a n grave, though, you know, like, and it's like, that's. I just feel like I said that's, like, an unpopular opinion, and people don't really, like, talk about how difficult it is to be in the middle and want to be happy for one, but it's like, damn. But what about him?
[00:34:38] Speaker A: You know, I think when he was talking about that, I have another perspective, too, that, like, you just talked about you being a fan of both.
I got the. Another. I got another perspective where if you look at how Cole handled the entire situation, that's a whole nother layer to what he's talking about, because.
No, okay, technically, nobody was talking to you, bro.
[00:35:05] Speaker B: DJ Cole.
[00:35:06] Speaker A: Yeah. You just jumped out there because, like, and he brought. And that's what. Another thing. Another thing that I respect about Cole. Cole owns everything.
He owns his ego. He owns his flaws. He owns all of it. So he's like, hey, bro, I knew for a fact that N wasn't finna. Listen, let me get this fall off album off without addressing this.
So his thing was he was being proactive. And then in the moment when he saw the traction immediately pick up, he like, oh, I Fucked up.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: And then he owned it and was like, let me just do this and get it out the way. And just. It's gonna take some time, but let me just get this out the way that I respect having context in the moment. I wanted him to rap.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:50] Speaker A: I'm like, oh. Because how do I say this? And I would love to talk to Cole about this, but.
And again, I don't know. I don't assume that he's ever watched our programming or heard the things that we've.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: Oh, no. One thing that I learned watching this interview, he sees everything.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: Yeah. All of them. They watch everything.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Yeah, they see everything.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: So, again, cultural differences. We don't have to rehash it from the battle, but where we're from, Cole, technically is still owed a DP for what he did, even after he apologized. You can't violate and then take it back after you already violated. That's still a D.P. where we from?
So to me, a discipline for the people that don't know what I'm talking about. So to me, he was still technically owed that. But now having context to why he did what he was doing, now I'm like, ah, fuck it. All right. I can see why.
Like, dotted, let it go type shit. You know what I mean? Like, all right, fuck it. Whatever. You know, he did. He did what he did. Boom. And let it go. Whereas in the moment, without context, it's like, nah, nigga, you don't get to just. You don't get to go shoot at some niggas and then come back to the hood after we told you.
Like, who told you to go shoot at the niggas? You know what I'm saying? You getting a DP when you get back to the hood. So for me, having context, going back to a conversation I had with Elliot Wilson, that's the purpose of N. Providing conversations to give people understanding. Not even to the fans, but to the people who might be feeling away about how you handle certain things. Which is why I appreciated his conversation with Cam the most.
[00:37:35] Speaker B: I think, too, like, how you said that nobody was speaking to him like he wasn't a part of it.
I do think that just because it wasn't like, a direct shot at him, if I call us the Big Three, and then you say, ain't no Big Three. That is a distance to me.
[00:37:53] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:37:54] Speaker B: And then also, I feel like, no,
[00:37:56] Speaker A: he said, motherfuck the Big Three. So I can see that.
[00:37:59] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like, if I say, hey, this my brother, and he's. I Don't got no fucking sisters.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Oh, you know, it's like, you know what? I overlook the human element a lot of times.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
Like, if you say, ain't no big three, and I'm calling us the big three, because, like I told you before, they are the big three. At the end of the day, they are, you know, off subject. But to me, that whole class.
To me, that class of them was always J. Cole, Big Sean Wale, Kendrick, and Drake. That was always, you know, to me. But, yeah, so it's like, if they're. If I call us the big three, and you say that we not the big three, that is a shot at me.
[00:38:42] Speaker A: I can see that.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: And then also, I feel like Tyrese's part. I mean, not Tyrese. I'm sorry, I'm watching. Versus Chingy did just come out.
[00:38:54] Speaker A: Chingy came out.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: Chingy just came out.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: Bruh.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Chingy just came out. We gonna get into it, but damn, I kind of lost.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: I love pulling me back.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: I fucked up.
[00:39:07] Speaker B: I was about to start talking about
[00:39:09] Speaker A: I fuck with pulling me back.
[00:39:10] Speaker B: I don't even know what I was saying now. What was I saying? What was I saying?
[00:39:15] Speaker A: Damn, bro.
[00:39:19] Speaker B: J. Cole. Oh, J. Cole's a part of that era where when niggas is rapping, we all rapping.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:26] Speaker B: We not shutting up just because my name wasn't said. Or, you know, like, whatever the case, it's like, oh, we outside, everybody sparring. I feel like he comes from that because, I mean, I wasn't raised in the 90s or the 2000s, but I remember when a hot song would come out. I mean, I was raised in the 2000s, but not enough to know what was happening when people was getting dissed, is what I'm trying to say. But what I do remember from the 2000s is when a hot song came out, everybody rapped on that beat. When a nigga came outside and started rapping, everybody used that beat and start rapping over that beat. Obviously, this is not the same thing or whatever, but I just feel like he from that era. Somebody say something disrespectful, somebody say something wild. We all coming outside.
No different than, I'm the king of New York, Compton, you know?
[00:40:14] Speaker A: Like, yeah, I feel that.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: But what did you think about him saying that the control verse wasn't disrespectful?
[00:40:20] Speaker A: I. With him, I agree.
That was just like, hey, he named the N. Hey, bro. But I. No, I'm like, yeah, we. It's good, but I'm Trying to murder all you. This is competition.
I want the crown like I want a ring. I want the chip. To me, that's not disrespect. If I had to choose the like, that thing would be more inflammatory than the control verse. I don't look at. I don't look at the control verse like a diss at all.
[00:40:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:48] Speaker A: I think niggas looking at that like a diss like I seen.
I think even Big Sean spoke on that. He didn't take it like that.
I think in the moment.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Cause all them niggas is cap. That's what I was about to get
[00:41:01] Speaker A: to in the moment.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: I think in retrospect, where you're looking or re listening to it with a mature set of ears, you're gonna look at it like that. But if a nigga from Compton say, I'm the king of New York, yeah, that's just imagine. Just imagine right now, a nigga from
[00:41:17] Speaker A: New York saying, if a nigga New
[00:41:18] Speaker B: York say nigga, I run Compton.
Niggas tripping. Niggas from Englewood tripping
[00:41:27] Speaker A: like I do. What better? It's what nigga Lefty Gun play tripping.
[00:41:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: And he from over there. He ain't even from like. He not.
[00:41:36] Speaker B: Joey Badass said TD Highland park is tripping.
[00:41:39] Speaker A: Tripping like, what you mean?
And then the niggas from Paramount calling the Compton. Hey, y' all going for that. Like, it's charging everybody up.
[00:41:51] Speaker B: But it's no different when you, like. Jay Z just did the interview with jq. I mean, with Jay Z did the interview with gq. And in that interview, he spoke on how he doesn't think that battling needs to be, you know, like, part of the. We don't need it no more. It's not essential to the. To rap culture.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: I know the battlers wasn't fucking with it.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Like, right now, the battle rappers wasn't fucking with it. And I seen a whole lot on my timeline, but I don't think that he was referring to battle rap sport. Sport. I think he was just referring to diss tracks and battle beef. Rap beef and stuff like that.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: I agree.
[00:42:21] Speaker B: But you're gonna have that point of view when you are the person who was a part of maybe the biggest or. Well, he kind of called it the second biggest. It's the second of the second biggest rap beef of, you know, the rap culture. But you're gonna look back, you're mature, you have more money, you have more businesses and things like that. So when you look back at it, Same thing from the control situation. When you look back, you like, oh, that's not what I thought it was. Or that doesn't fill the void that we once thought that it needed to fill. Like, it's not. We don't need it no more, you know, like. So I feel like when you, I
[00:42:59] Speaker A: see a nigga feeling like that at 50, like n. When you 25, you like, man, fuck this nigga.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:43:04] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:43:05] Speaker B: Exactly. This nigga said, da, da, da da. Or you know, whatever the case. But I mean, I think too, once you experience it. Cause like I've said it multiple times. When y' all get serious, I'm not in that. Like when it gets serious, I'm not playing these games about people, kids and they family and they likelihood and you know, like, stuff like that. So once it get personal, I am looking at everybody like, hold on. Cause I only wanted to be on the beat, you know, like we done seen where it goes when it goes too far, you know. So I think like looking at it going back, like with mature lenses and a new set of ears and looking at all of the backlash and you know, the result and everything that happened from it, it does make you say, we don't need that. And the point, the example that he made is what it does to people.
I don't think that diss tracks and rap beef had the same effect that it does now. I don't think it had the same effect in the past.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: No. Because it didn't affect people's lives. And I don't think, and nobody takes into account that we didn't take social media serious. This is like a new thing not to. To the new generation. They would look at me like I'm crazy, but I'm. This is an old nigga talking. When social media first like really cracked off, it was a big ass group chat. It wasn't CNN and Fox and msnbc. They weren't on Twitter, you know what I mean? It was just a group chat that people just like, we was talking about sports and music and culture and it was rumors and talking shit. We were saying inflammatory, crazy shit on social media.
People were posting pictures with, remember the HDR filters on Instagram. Niggas was posting pictures of like they feet and just. It was just goofy shit. It wasn't serious.
Now you can't get that off because the way that time has evolved these platforms. That being said, I understand his perspective on the effects of the battle of the beefs. Cause it. We used to, we used to buy DVDs called Beef.
You know what I'm saying? They were literally called Beef. And it was about niggas beefing and beating each other up and fighting and shooting. Like it was a lot of bullshit. Like we. It was. It was. Those are the two most popular DVDs. It was beef and girls going wild.
[00:45:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Like it was just some bullshit. And they were infomercials being ran all on TV about, man, check out 50 Cent and murder Inc.
You know, they battle it out and it's like, nigga, that's what we was consuming. It wasn't on social media and it didn't affect people's lives and their money.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: I think too, this could be. Cause although.
What was that? What is Nas and Jay z? Is that 2002 when they got back together when they was beefing?
[00:45:46] Speaker A: Oh, shit, that was 2001. Top of 2000s, right? One mic.
No, that was. He dropped Gotchas takeover, Blueprint 2000. 2000.
Ish.
[00:46:01] Speaker B: So the point of me asking that question is, were Jay Z and Nas where they are in their careers?
Was that equivalent to where Drake and Kendrick are today?
[00:46:12] Speaker A: Yes. Yes and no.
Okay.
[00:46:15] Speaker B: I don't think so.
[00:46:17] Speaker A: No. In a sense that.
So this is a whole. Now what you finna do? We finna get dragged because there's this whole subreddit about Jay was falling off and. And the battle saved his career. That's. That's an actual narrative that exists. I would love to talk to HOV about that, but there. That's an actual. He would probably disagree, obviously, but that's actually a narrative that was persistent back then. It's like that battle saved his career and it didn't do. It didn't fare well for Nas until he dropped. But Nas won. But it saved Jay's career. That's the kind of narrative that's being painted about that.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: How would you label. Like, were they in their prime? Were they on the way to their prime? Had they already. They hadn't reached their highest height.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: So if I had to guess, Nas was kind of prime. Ish.
And Jay was still.
He was not.
He was not heralded as the guy he is now. After the Blueprint came out, it was like, oh, ho's the guy.
[00:47:19] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. So this beef with Kendrick and Drake happened when they are already mega stars?
[00:47:24] Speaker A: Yes, correct.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: So it's gonna have a bigger effect on Drake and Kendrick right now versus what it would have on Nas and Jay Z in the early 2000s, if that makes sense. So the response or the result of a rap beef is gonna be different depending on the level that you are in your career.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: I feel that you get what I'm saying because I don't think that y' all would've ever anticipated. Now, obviously times are different, but nobody ever thought that we would see a diss track being performed on the Super Bowl.
[00:47:59] Speaker A: No. And HOV talked about that.
He kept it real though. I fuck with hov, man. Like, he was like one.
The narrative about him conspiring, he was like, bro, I'm Jay Z. I love
[00:48:11] Speaker B: that he said that. And I can't wait to say that because you know how people be having like one sided beef and be like, oh, you don't fuck with me, or I don't like you. I can't wait to say I'm me. Why would I give a fuck about you?
[00:48:22] Speaker A: He said, I love when he said that. He said, I'm Jay Z. Like, I'm hov. Like, what the fuck? Like, why do I care about that?
[00:48:28] Speaker B: Cause it did come off as if it was like a smear campaign or, you know, or whatever the case.
The other thing that I really appreciated about the Jay Z GQ interview was him sitting down with somebody who's actually a fan. And you know how we were. You just mentioned how Cameron let J. Cole talk. He let him talk. He didn't interrupt them and things like that. And he asked specific, direct questions.
I think what makes for a good interview is number one. Cause a lot of people put like, if the interview is bad, they'll put it on the interviewer.
[00:49:01] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:49:02] Speaker B: And they'll be like, oh, you didn't ask the right questions or, you know, you made them uncomfortable or this and that. Which is definitely a factor. But another thing that I think makes for a good interview is the person being interviewed talking.
[00:49:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:14] Speaker B: And giving those deep in depth responses and you know, like giving detail and telling, no, this is how this happened. Giving you a timeline and why this happened and things like that. Versus like. Cause I remember when I was watching interviews back in the day, I don't wanna call no rappers out, but I remember when it was a point where it was cool for niggas to be arrogant in interviews. You know, like where they like, nah. Yeah, I don't know. Ask them, you know, like stuff like that. So I like that. And then I think that, like I said, another thing that makes for a good interview is the interviewer has to be a fan of you.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: Not just well researched. And knowledgeable of who you are. Like, I think it helps when you're actually a fan. And I think that that makes the person being interviewed more comfortable because I'm sitting down with somebody who actually knows me or they care, you know, they care about my music.
[00:50:05] Speaker A: Shout out to Frasier, man. He. He.
[00:50:07] Speaker B: He did an amazing job.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: He did that. I ain't gonna lie. Like, I like how they did it too. And to be honest with you, it made me take notes just as a. As a creator and as a. As a platform. I kind of like how they did it, the video. Like, obviously their GQ is a magazine, so they're gonna have their print and they're journalists, so they do have the traditional way to consume it. You can go read the entire interview. It's transcripted. I think that that's dope.
Shout out to Terrace Martin. I did one with him this year too, like a month ago or something. And he made it a point like, no, I want to get back to print. Like, I want my shit to be transcribed and we gonna talk, but I want it to be print. And what's dope to me is the way they shot it, though, is it's not just a straight through, like how we do ours. It's more like it's broken up and there's a. There's a transition in it and it's like, okay, it's more. It's shot like a television show. And I kind of appreciate that just. Cause no one's really doing that from the Internet side of things now. It's more just like, it just is what it is and we put it up. So I thought that was dope creatively also.
When it came to the Jay Z thing, one thing that stout to me about HOV is he's. I wanna get closer to how he is. I be intentional about the stuff I say, but sometimes, like, I can tell that I kinda just run off and just like, just kinda spew.
He's so impeccable with his word. That's One of the 40 laws of power, is be impeccable with your word. And to me, like, no word is wasted when he talks. Like, it's just every word.
It needs to be there. If you take out a word, it'll lose context, and if you add a word, it'll just be extra for you for no reason.
[00:51:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:49] Speaker A: And I just want. I want to get to that.
[00:51:51] Speaker B: I like the way he.
When I believe he said.
He said something they didn't allow me to or they made me not something like that. The. What's his name, the interviewer, Frazier. It was something like that. It was a. It was a statement that he made. And Jay Z said, stop and remove that from your vocabulary.
[00:52:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
Asking permission.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: And I'm like, dang, I need to start doing that. Like, I need to start speaking. Cause you know, your mouth make your world, you know? So if I can't. For me to say something like, oh, yeah, they're not allowing me to do this, or they're telling me that I can't. And, you know, things like that. And it's like, no, you can do. Can't nobody stop you from doing what you want to do. You know, like, that's what I took away from it. That's actually, if I'm being honest, obviously, I'm watching for the T.
Everything else, but that was my biggest takeaway.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel that was when he
[00:52:45] Speaker B: said, remove that from your vocabulary.
[00:52:46] Speaker A: I've never. I've never seen Hov speak and didn't get a gem.
Every time I've ever watched hov, I got a gem. Something that I can apply in my actual life. I'm like, damn. Yeah. Even he don't even know. But Hov has mentored me, you know what I'm saying, Through his music. But then, because, well, I ain't gonna blow the spot up. But it's people that he talks to on a regular basis that I talk to on a regular basis and be like, oh, well, Hov told me, woo, woo, woo, you should do this. And then I'll take them like, damn, okay. And then I apply that. And Hov don't even know he helping me. You know what I mean? So I think that that's dope. I wanna get. We'll move off this. But the other thing that was really important, which to me, speaks to his character. Well, two things. One was a lawsuit. There's nothing there to like, really expound upon. Like, he, you know, he vindicated his name.
But when Cole was talking about the Jay Z, the Roc Nation deal, Cole was speaking on the fact that. Cause Frazier brought up the Cole situation and whatnot. And he was like, well, yeah, like, you know, like, I saw the potential, like, woo, woo, woo. And they. This is one of the first times I ever seen two people who kind of, like, grew apart.
I don't know what happened. I wasn't there, but have the same story. And it literally overlaps to the point to the T. It's like.
And Cole kept it real. He was like, bro, I came in on some. I thought this was gonna be like Kanye. I thought I was gonna have my chaining day on, like. I thought I was gonna be like, he's gonna put his arm around me. He thought he was gonna get the chain a day on stage type treatment. And he was like, no ho was a full on executive at this point. Like, no, bro, here go your budget. Like, here go your recording budget. Here goes some resources. I'm gonna put you in with this producer who we done made countless number one records with and Stargate and Off to the Races type shit. And Cole, I think. And I've said this on the show. This is why I brought it up. I've said this on the radio. I think Cole had a false sense of what this shit is.
And he brought that up.
[00:54:47] Speaker B: He said that.
[00:54:48] Speaker A: He brought that up when he was talking to Cam. It's like the shit shifted to. It's just. No, this is business, bro. This ain't the early 2000s where I'm finna bring you out of the summer jam and put a chain on you. Like, that's what Cole was looking for. And I think that's also what turned Cole into who he is now.
[00:55:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaking of Jay Z, though, the Roots Picnic lineup Fire has been released. Jay Z is headlining. It is a beautiful day to be a Jay Z fan.
[00:55:17] Speaker A: Facts.
[00:55:18] Speaker B: You're getting him everywhere.
[00:55:20] Speaker A: Facts.
[00:55:21] Speaker B: And I feel like he coming out here soon.
[00:55:23] Speaker A: He gotta come out here, but I feel like coming out here soon, people feeling like this is a rollout because he randomly talked to gq, right? Like, there's nothing there's. He randomly talked to.
[00:55:34] Speaker B: Jeez. I don't think that was random.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: No, I don't think so either.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: I don't think that was random.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: Jay Z don't do random shit. That's where I was going with this.
[00:55:40] Speaker B: It was a part of the interview where they spoke about how they were emailing back and forth and how they was talking about his lyrics and things like that. So I don't know this. Obviously we don't have any information, but I understand how things can be set up. He probably did a write up about him. They probably was emailing, talking about it. He probably reached out to him like, I like your.
I like the write up. I like what you did. You know, I wanna come sit down with you. Or, you know, something like that. I don't know. I'm sure that Jay Z recognizes that this is an actual real fan who's in media.
And just like Cam' Ron deserved that, I feel like he deserved that.
[00:56:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel that. But Frazier also did the write up on the clips when they first were doing the first rollout. They dropped the print interview that they did.
That was also Frasier.
[00:56:26] Speaker B: That's why I don't think it's random. I think it was.
[00:56:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel that.
[00:56:30] Speaker B: But the picnic.
[00:56:31] Speaker A: The Picnic. So it's Jay Z. We got Erykah Badu with the co headline placement. Kalani, Brandi, TI Mariah the scientist. And then now this is where she get interesting to me because I'm like, I know. I remember when shout out to our dude, Motown Lee, he does a festival in Atlanta called One Music Fest. And I remember him telling me about, like, oh, I'm gonna have Greg street come out and do a set. It's gonna be Greg street and Friends. And then so and so and Friends. And I'm starting to notice these festivals are incorporating that into their lineups where that wasn't always the case. You would just book the artist and they would come out and do their set and then they would have their person that's on their records feature on the set and stuff like that. But I really enjoy when you get them. Like, you don't know. Like, it's Jermaine Dupri and Friends.
Nigga, that could be Bow Wow or Usher.
[00:57:20] Speaker B: I've been through Usher.
[00:57:21] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't know. Like, I don't know who that's gonna be.
[00:57:24] Speaker B: I been to a festival where it was Jermaine Dupree and Friends, and it was amazing.
[00:57:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Who did he have?
[00:57:30] Speaker B: I don't wanna say. Cause I don't want people to think that I'm saying that, that, that. But I think that I'm not gonna say it. Okay, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. It was way in May. Yeah. We'll have this conversation again.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: We're gonna have it again. Also, TI Having, like a really high placement on this festival, to me is super dope. Because actually we were just talking about this at FYI and TI is.
I want to give him his credit. TI is number 36 on Billboard Hot 100 as of right now. That's incredible.
For Let Them Know. Everybody loves a song produced by Pharrell, et cetera.
It's been on billboard for eight weeks and it's already at 36 with a bullet, meaning it's climbing.
And for ti to be in the game this long, take a hiatus, go on a comedy run, and then come back to music with his first this is his first record.
[00:58:28] Speaker B: You wanna know? It was crazy too.
We still ain't even got the album.
[00:58:32] Speaker A: This ain't even the album.
[00:58:33] Speaker B: This ain't even the album.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: Yeah, and he dropped the follow up single, which is. I was just singing. I would just be rapping the shit out of it. Trauma Bond. And he's this why I really fuck with tips. Look, Tip to me is the same. He got the same.
This is crazy. I'm having a realization. A lot of these dudes that I look at that I really are big fans of, they just are men.
And they're just very masculine. Like, I'm a man type shit. TI Is. I look at him with the same energy as I look at HOV and it's just, no, these are my truths, here's my story.
And good, bad or indignant. Good, bad or ugly, this is the truth.
And I feel like TI Is one of those dudes because he dropped the Trauma Bond record. And he's just talking about his family.
Like, yeah, he got his people. The hook is him talking about his son. And he's just like, yeah, we flawed, we might be fucked up, but this is my family and this is what I'm riding with.
[00:59:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: And I fuck with that energy. So I like to see TI Having his moment. And then also I want to shout out to DJ Jazzy Jeff.
DJ Jazzy Jeff's magnificent block party is on part of this Roots picnic. That's one. I don't know if I'm gonna go to Roots Picnic, but that's one person I need to go see before I can't go see him is Jazzy Jeff. He's one of the reasons I'm a dj.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: Really.
[00:59:52] Speaker A: Jazzy Jeff is so incredible. Like, if you never seen Jazzy Jeff, D I used to watch during quarantine, I would just go on his stream and watch him DJ and just be like, oh, my God. Like, Jazzy Jeff is. So when I finished Will Smith's book, all it did was made me more of a fan of Jeff.
I mean, obviously I'm a big Will Smith fan. I love Will, but it made me even more of a Jazzy Jeff fan. Just learning how Jazzy Jeff, low key, birthed the Will Smith career, you know what I mean? And just seeing, like, it's just fire, bro. Like, I'm just a huge fan of Jeff.
Also, shout out to DJ Ms. Milan, who's on that lineup too, which is big.
The females showing up on the lineup. But Ms. Milan is the homegirl. She also, you know, on Tour and stuff with Dochi. So I think it's a cool lineup, though.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: Before we dropped our episode last week or after we dropped our. Well, while we was here, Latto announced that she was pregnant.
I mean, I think it was the moment we left the studio.
[01:00:53] Speaker A: Yeah. It's one of the worst crept secrets in the industry.
[01:00:55] Speaker B: Yeah. But what's so crazy is. Okay, so I just didn't want to be that person. But I did think she was pregnant. But I respect girl code so much that, like, I was never going to admit it or say it because if I say I'm not pregnant, then I'm not pregnant.
Like, why is y' all telling me that I'm expecting and I'm not expecting? You know, and she dropped like a vlog and, like, content and stuff around her pregnancy and talking about, like, you know, just coming out with her secret and, you know, also with the. Cause, I mean, we knew they was in a relationship.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: But it's like they hadn't really, like, stamped it yet publicly.
If I am trying to protect my baby, protect my mental, protect my child, why would I come out and tell y' all, with y' all being so thirsty to know?
[01:01:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:01:52] Speaker B: You know, like.
[01:01:53] Speaker A: And they say that's such a personal thing, too.
[01:01:54] Speaker B: The first. The first or second trimester is like the most important of a, you know, of a pregnancy and stuff. And I don't think that the casual viewer, fan supporter understands how all that disrespect can take a toll on somebody. Because for whatever reason, we've gotten to a space on social media where you can just disrespect somebody just if you just don't like their hair or just because.
Just because you don't agree. Mona. Shout out to Mona.
Don't call me white girl.
We was talking.
[01:02:28] Speaker A: Mona's crazy. We need to have her up here.
[01:02:31] Speaker B: We do need to have her.
[01:02:31] Speaker A: She's insane.
[01:02:32] Speaker B: But we was talking. This is totally off subject, but we was talking or whatever.
[01:02:36] Speaker A: You and Mona was talking. Yeah, okay.
[01:02:38] Speaker B: About the LaRusso thing. And she was having a conversation with somebody. So she basically said how much she agreed with what we said to Larsso.
And the person had told her, like, no, Gina said a lot of shit wrong.
And then Mona was like, no. She said what we were all thinking.
And the person said, well, I'm not listening to nothing that she said because she been disrespecting July Leo's bitch. That's why I been disrespecting July Leos. Cause, bitch, you're dumb.
Like, bitch, you's an idiot, bitch.
Like, bitch said it. I ain't listening to nothing that she said. Anything she say is wrong to me because of what. So I'm wrong for what I said to Laresto off a Zodiac. Bitch, this shit not real.
[01:03:25] Speaker A: It's off rip.
[01:03:26] Speaker B: None of this is even real, you know, like. And it's like, boom, Latto come out. She says that she's pregnant. She dropped the pictures and things like that. And the first thing everybody run to is, so you gave a nigga a baby who already got three kids and a wife.
Where's your momma and your daddy at?
I'm not even asking for a response from anybody to tell me that. But the way that the pot be calling kettles black is so crazy to me because it's like, now I'm not saying that we should be out here normalizing broken homes and broken families, and I'm not saying that that's even what they have going on, but the way that we judge people's situations, when people will have something to say about Cardi B nigga cheating and all of that, your nigga's probably fucking your friend right
[01:04:20] Speaker A: now while you on the Internet.
[01:04:21] Speaker B: While you on the Internet talking about another bitch, you know, like, it's just so crazy to me. So I commend Latto for being able to even hold that secret that long. Because one thing about it is, like, we're girls. We wanna show off. We wanna show little baby bumps and the milestones and things like that of our life, you know? And it's like, if you're a first time parent, I'm gonna assume she's a girl mom. I don't know. Did they release a gender?
[01:04:44] Speaker A: I don't know yet.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: Let's say if it's a. I can't even fucking say that they gonna say that.
[01:04:49] Speaker A: I'm saying that it's gonna be the announcement.
[01:04:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it's gonna be that. I don't know, but if I'm a girl mom, and I'm excited and stuff like that, and I got my little cub, you know, Like, I'm gonna be excited to talk about it. And it's like I can't even talk about it and shit because the way I y' all drag people for being
[01:05:06] Speaker A: human, you know, well, everybody's better.
Everybody better than us.
[01:05:11] Speaker B: Everybody think they better than the next person.
[01:05:13] Speaker A: It's like what we talk about. Everybody think they're bigger than the program.
[01:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:05:16] Speaker A: And you not bigger than the program.
[01:05:18] Speaker B: And I love to put a mirror in front of a motherfucker.
[01:05:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Nobody bigger than the program. Also, you know what's interesting, though, about the lotto thing for me?
Well, one thing that stands out to me is when, like, you be on your girl code, too.
Because when we. When it came up and initially the rumors hit, you were like, bro, a bitch can't be on her period in peace. Like, so you not only are girl, girl, girl coded up, but you also provided her out. Like, this is the. You know, I'm different. Yeah, well, you. Nah, hello.
Nah, she not.
Nah, she ain't with me.
[01:05:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I said she's not here.
[01:05:55] Speaker A: Yeah, she not here. I'm outside her car in the driveway. She dropped it off. Like, you that friend, right?
[01:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm that friend for sure.
[01:06:02] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[01:06:03] Speaker B: Cause that's the other thing. It's like, since when does, like, why is a celebrity being pregnant everybody else's business? Right now the Internet is speculating if Glorilla is pregnant. So fucking what? Like, y' all think I'm not fucking?
Do we gotta have a conversation about the birds and the bees? When you fuck, you get pregnant.
Like, why is that breaking news? You know? Like, it's just like. I mean, I kind of understand Wolato, because one thing is, like, people, they hadn't confirmed for real if they was in a relationship. But it's like, we're in an era where, like, the news day is so motherfucking slow every day that a highlight of our day is another bitch pregnancy
[01:06:47] Speaker A: or cardi b eating crab legs, crashing out on her baby daddy. Yeah.
[01:06:51] Speaker B: Oh, she's pregnant. It's like, now I remember when it was like, ooh, is Beyonce pregnant? You know, is Rihanna. Like, I remember that being a thing, but it's like the way that we see titties and pussy on Twitter every day. Why is we still so shocked by a baby bump? Yeah, we're all fucking.
[01:07:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, look, you got a point.
So this. What I wanted to say this about the lotto thing, though, is for me, for me, like, when I look at the lotto situation specifically, it's like, yes, she had a baby. I mean, she's pregnant. Okay, cool.
To me, I don't necessarily understand why people are. They immediately go to the negative, like, what you were talking about, because there's so many other things that there are other components to that. Right.
The other thing, though, I'm just countering your point. My other thing to your point is if she makes an announcement and it's a rollout then people have the right to engage. Yes or no?
[01:07:59] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:07:59] Speaker A: Okay, so if you make it a deal, then you have to also accept what comes with that making of a deal.
[01:08:05] Speaker B: I mean, Latto couldn't even, like, a baby post on TikTok without people. Yeah, I forget what the post was specifically, but let's just say it's a DIY video of, you know, like, pregnancy or whatever. Latto has saved the post to her TikTok, and the person screenshotted it, and that became a headline. Like, look, y' all see, look, she is pregnant. And it's like, so we just don't have any, like, respect or sympathy at all for a pregnant woman? Yeah, you know, like, is that where we are on the Internet? And like you said, people rush straight to the negativity. Like, I don't know if everybody. I don't know if everybody, you know, parents got married before having sex and consuming, you know, or having a child.
But the majority of us, a lot of our.
I got different. Me and my siblings got different parents.
[01:09:01] Speaker A: Facts. Me too, you know?
[01:09:04] Speaker B: So it's like, why is now we have to hold this standard for these freaking people? Because they public figures. You get what I'm saying? Like, this is not fair to me, but Tyrese is whooping feet right now.
[01:09:15] Speaker A: For real.
[01:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been taking tally. Oh, yeah, yeah. I got a whole grab. Look at the thing. I got a whole little. Little Excel sheet.
[01:09:24] Speaker A: Bro, why you got a sheet in here with bro? You know what's crazy? Like, I don't know if you like, this gonna sound. Don't. Don't take the. Don't disrespect.
[01:09:34] Speaker B: Okay?
[01:09:35] Speaker A: I don't know if you, like, retarded or a genius.
[01:09:37] Speaker B: Like.
[01:09:38] Speaker A: Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Because, like, how the fuck are you having a conversation with me, bro? She got a whole Excel sheet with the count and everything right in our notes. Nigga, that's insane. She fully engaged in a lotto conversation with an ex. She got the songs back and forth. Okay? Tank did this fuck up the bed. Tyrese did signs like, bro, this is insane.
[01:10:16] Speaker B: Avery, my nigga Avery got verses on the TV behind me, bro.
[01:10:22] Speaker A: She is stupid, fool.
[01:10:23] Speaker B: Okay, yeah, well, I mean, you know, I learned a lot.
This is the thing. I think that millennials don't get enough credit for our ability to multitask. And I'm really only referring to the second half of millennials, not us. I'm not referring To y', all, because y' all didn't have sidekicks.
[01:10:42] Speaker A: I had a sidekick.
[01:10:43] Speaker B: When did y' all get sidekicks, though?
[01:10:45] Speaker A: I was in 023.
[01:10:48] Speaker B: But where. What grade were you in?
[01:10:49] Speaker A: N. I was out of. I graduated 02.
[01:10:52] Speaker B: Exactly.
We had sidekicks and technology in class.
[01:10:57] Speaker A: Got it.
[01:10:58] Speaker B: So we come from the era where you had to learn how to text and look up.
I can right now. I can text a whole conversation right now without looking down. Only text, though, Typing.
[01:11:15] Speaker A: Y' all can do that.
[01:11:18] Speaker B: Y' all can type. Y' all can type without looking, but we can text without looking. You know, like, we need. I think the second half of Millennials, we need a lot more credit for our ability to multitask. Because I feel that, though I can have a podcast playing a song, I can have a podcast playing in one room, songs of music in the bathroom, and I can be on the phone and I can tell you everything going on.
[01:11:39] Speaker A: See? Nah, I don't know if that's the.
I don't think my TISM allowed me to do that.
[01:11:44] Speaker B: What? Like, can you scroll and watch TV at the same time?
[01:11:48] Speaker A: Yeah, but I can't. I can only do one audio source.
[01:11:52] Speaker B: So you will only be paying attention to one thing.
[01:11:54] Speaker A: No, I get irritated. Like, you know when we go to the studio with niggas and they play us their music when I tell you I lose my shit when a turn the music all the way up and then start talking. Yeah.
[01:12:02] Speaker B: So I don't like that.
[01:12:04] Speaker A: But what I'm saying is, in here, if there was music playing, I couldn't talk to you.
I can't do two competing frequencies. And I don't know if that's spectrum or not. I don't know what that is. But I just. You know, it's just.
[01:12:15] Speaker B: Cause you didn't have to text and.
[01:12:17] Speaker A: But okay.
[01:12:18] Speaker B: Cause y' all phones was a little different.
[01:12:19] Speaker A: No, let me ask you.
[01:12:20] Speaker B: Y' all had to keep pressing 9
[01:12:22] Speaker A: to get Z West Coast. So let me ask you this last question about that. Could you type without looking on a keyboard that's starting to raise and bubble up?
[01:12:30] Speaker B: What do you mean on the Sidekick?
[01:12:32] Speaker A: Remember the keyboard used to bubble up and raise off the.
[01:12:34] Speaker B: That's where we learned.
[01:12:36] Speaker A: Oh, shit.
[01:12:36] Speaker B: We learned on the Sidekicks.
[01:12:38] Speaker A: I know, but you remember when the keyboard started to, like, bubble up when
[01:12:41] Speaker B: it was fucked up?
[01:12:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:12:42] Speaker B: Well, all my phones was fresh.
[01:12:43] Speaker A: Oh, my God. All right. I don't even get into privilege.
[01:12:46] Speaker B: It wasn't privilege. I just took care of my shit.
[01:12:49] Speaker A: If you texting on, it's gonna raise up. That was a defect. All right, so do you see a
[01:12:54] Speaker B: turtleneck on this charger?
No, I take care of my shit. I had my phone for about four years.
[01:13:02] Speaker A: Okay, I'm gonna skip a couple weeks cause I wanna get to this. Cause we gotta get out of here, but.
So shout out to the amazing illustrious Amanda Reefer. Okay, I've really with her.
Shut up, Nate.
I with Amanda Reefer. I go have a meeting.
I go have a meeting somewhere at a restaurant. I'm, I'm, I'm about to wrap up the meeting. In walks Amanda Reefer with her, with her, with her, with her friend. She's like, oh my God. Hey. We like, hey. I give her a hug, didn't want to let go, give her a hug. I let her go. She goes. And I'm like, she go eat. They eatin at the bar.
I'm sitting in my seat with who I'm having a meeting with. We finish, I get up, I leave.
Like, he leaving, I'm leaving. We walking out the door.
And as we were walking out the door, literally, I hit the valet.
I'm outside and my phone is ringing and it's her.
And I pick up and I'm like, yo, what's up? She like, I know you didn't just leave without saying bye.
And I'm like, here I come.
You know, I'm not gonna argue. So I just walked back in and I walk up and she wanna. And she's like, you just gonna leave and not say bye? And I'm like, yeah, I always, I'm good for the Irish goodbye. Like I don't, I don't say bye to everybody and do all that shit. I just, I kinda sneak out. Like that's my thing. She's like, well, don't get at me like that. Like, don't like why don't do me like that. Like that's rude. You don't have manners. And she just like. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, am I fucked up? And so my thing is, to me that's a social norm. And you know how my brain is like, again, this might. I don't know where I'm at mentally, but I'm a little crazy. I don't do the goodbye. I don't. Like, I used to hate. I'm gonna tell you, I used to hate going places with Chuck Dizzle, okay.
[01:14:53] Speaker B: Cause you gotta say bye to everybody.
[01:14:55] Speaker A: Nigga Chuck says bye to everybody in the building. Every nigga, the janitor, the nigga's, washing dishes. Oh, good to see you. My Chuck, my nigga. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, good to see you. You know, I'll see you later, like. And I. I, you know, you do the same thing I do. Kind of, like, we just kind of. Oop, we gone.
[01:15:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:15:11] Speaker A: Is that rude or. It doesn't depend on the setting. And then what social norm don't you describe, don't you subscribe to? That's like that.
[01:15:21] Speaker B: Okay, so shout out to Amanda. I don't have a problem with you not telling nobody goodbye. Now, if it was. If you was just with one person and you didn't tell that person bye, then that's different. Like, hey, I'm about to get up out of here. Because most of the time, me and Tally don't ride together. So I would go tell her, like, I'm about to go, or she'll come tell me, like, girl, I'm finna leave, you know, or whatever.
[01:15:41] Speaker A: Like, that makes sense.
[01:15:42] Speaker B: It's not too many times where, like, one of us then looked up and the other person was gone and we didn't notify each other or whatever. But when I leave places, I don't even say goodbye. I chunk the deuce up, and whoever caught it, that's for you.
And then I leave. Like, they know. Like, if some shit going on, I be like. And then I just leave. And then I'll get text messages like, where you go?
[01:16:10] Speaker A: What happened?
[01:16:10] Speaker B: Da, da, da. If you don't have my location, you'll never know where I'm at. Cause I'm not even replying until the next day. Oh, yeah, girl, I have to get up out of there. You know, whatever. So I'm not mad at that. The other thing, if I do say bye, I'm gonna do all right, y'. All.
I'm not going to each individual person, because when I got here, I hugged all 50 of y'.
[01:16:32] Speaker A: All.
[01:16:34] Speaker B: I'm hugging everybody. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I hate that. That's a. Yeah, that's a social norm that I hate having to speak when I walk in a room.
[01:16:43] Speaker A: Me too.
[01:16:43] Speaker B: I also don't. Like, I'm not going to text you and say, hey, wait for your. Hey, how are you? I'm good. How are you? Yeah, I don't give a fuck about how your day been. I don't care what you doing right now. I'm jumping straight through and asking my question. Yeah, did you talk to blah, blah, blah about blah, blah, blah? Yeah, I don't do the whole. Now the only thing, pleasantries and shit. I don't do that now. If I got some tea, I'm be like, hey, where you at?
[01:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah, who you? Are you by yourself?
[01:17:10] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, I'm gonna call you, like, you outside.
[01:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:17:12] Speaker B: You know, like, what you on? But other than that, like, I don't believe in all this greeting shit.
And that came from the ancient times. Like, I don't wanna just greet. I don't wanna greet people.
[01:17:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, why is that the only one? Cause I think we both align in that.
[01:17:30] Speaker B: Well, we're the problem.
[01:17:31] Speaker A: I know we're the problem.
[01:17:32] Speaker B: Yeah, that's us thing.
[01:17:34] Speaker A: I know we're the problem. Yeah, my problem. I mean, my point though is, like, what other things do other people consider normal that I consider completely ridiculous?
[01:17:43] Speaker B: I'm just speaking to strangers in the hallway.
[01:17:45] Speaker A: An elevator.
[01:17:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Why am I talking to you? I don't know you.
[01:17:49] Speaker A: I once got told that there is a difference between passing in the hallway and the elevator. And I'm like, it's walls.
You know what I'm saying?
[01:17:57] Speaker B: The only thing I'm gonna do in the elevator, if I walk in first, I will press the floor that you're going on. I will ask, oh, like, what floor you want to. Yeah, yeah, I will ask that.
Another social norm that I don't agree with or what you say?
[01:18:14] Speaker A: Yeah, don't agree with it.
[01:18:15] Speaker B: Subscribe to.
I don't believe in sitting close to
[01:18:19] Speaker A: somebody, like, in the theater.
[01:18:22] Speaker B: I think that we should all spread out and do our own thing. Because why do I gotta be up on you or why you gotta be up on me?
Like, if I'm sitting in the. I don't feel like we should be trying to fill every seat. Like, if I'm out somewhere, I expect. If I. Okay, car wash, Perfect example.
[01:18:42] Speaker A: Car wash. Oh, getting your car wash.
[01:18:44] Speaker B: If I'm getting my car wash, like, and I'm duck and I'm over here, like, in the corner.
[01:18:48] Speaker A: You low.
[01:18:49] Speaker B: Don't come sit in the missing seat.
Find the furthest seat away from me.
[01:18:56] Speaker A: Hey, you know that be happening to me at the airport. It be, nigga, this a red eye. It's hella seats, nigga. You sitting right here.
[01:19:03] Speaker B: Like, why you sitting in your assigned seat?
Like, find somewhere else.
[01:19:07] Speaker A: It's hella seats in this motherfucker, bro.
[01:19:09] Speaker B: Like, another social norm.
Don't ask me what I'm eating.
[01:19:16] Speaker A: What you mean?
[01:19:17] Speaker B: Like, oh, what you got? Why you're never gonna taste it?
[01:19:22] Speaker A: They want some.
[01:19:23] Speaker B: It's for me.
This Is a personal.
If we was a la carte, it'd be different. But my food not a la carte.
My food is my cart.
[01:19:33] Speaker A: That's how I feel about food too.
[01:19:34] Speaker B: It's for me. I don't like when I'm eating and somebody be like, oh, you put hot sauce on that. Yeah, bitch, the fuck do my plate gotta do with you? I don't like that.
[01:19:45] Speaker A: Do you ask for. Do you ask for niggas food? Cause I hate that shit. No, like, when niggas be like, why you don't wanna share the girl? Not niggas. When a woman's like, they sit across from you. I be like, hey, this my spot. My boy owned the spot. You should get the lobster spaghetti. I know you like pasta. Nah, I'm gonna get the. I'm gonna get the salad.
[01:20:03] Speaker B: Well, that's just girl shit.
That's just girl shit.
[01:20:06] Speaker A: You wanna share my food, bro?
[01:20:07] Speaker B: And women, there are some times where we are not logical and we do things that don't make sense.
So that's just some real girl shit where I'm a girl and I just wanna do what my nigga doing. Like, that's what I feel like that is.
But me, if I go on a date with somebody. Cause I lied when I said no the first time, I definitely do.
Will, like, dig in a nigga plate.
But I'm giving you context. Okay, let me provide context. If we go somewhere and neither one of us can decide what we want, but we both like, dang, I want that and then the other one like, but I want that and then the other one like.
Like, if you get. Like if you get stuffed chicken, right? Or if I'm with a date with my boo, whatever, right? My boo gets stuffed chicken. But I'm like, well, I want shrimp because it looked good. And he like, dang. I do kind of want that shrimp, though. I'mma just get the shrimp too.
In that instance, one of us should get the other thing so we can share.
But that's the only exception.
Cause neither one of us could figure it out.
[01:21:16] Speaker A: My solution is order another one.
I'm finna get both.
[01:21:21] Speaker B: But I'm more money than a lot of people.
[01:21:23] Speaker A: That's not.
I be on big back shit.
[01:21:26] Speaker B: Okay, Cardi B said or lotto. I forget if it was lotto or Cardi B. What they say broke. Make you pick rich niggas get you both.
[01:21:39] Speaker A: They talking about bags and shit. I'm talking about a fish tripping.
Anyway, one other social norm that I don't like. Or I don't fuck with is saying bless you more than once.
Like, I'm not finna keep blessing you all day, bro. You got one, maybe two bless yous out of me. Cause I don't even know why the fuck I'm saying bless you. You know what I'm saying? Your heart stopped or skipped or. Hey, bro, you here. I think you good. You know what I'm saying? Is that callous? Like, am I tripping?
[01:22:12] Speaker B: I do think at some point we gotta rework the manner list facts.
Because a lot of this shit is old.
[01:22:19] Speaker A: This is what we gonna do. Let's do an open manner recall. And whatever y' all think if you listen.
[01:22:24] Speaker B: I'm gonna do a manner recall.
[01:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah, let's re rock the manners.
[01:22:27] Speaker B: Well, let's start with all that salad fork shit.
Cause it's gonna get eight regardless.
[01:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't give a fuck what fork it is.
[01:22:35] Speaker B: I don't give a fuck what. I don't give a fuck about the fork.
Why would I give a fuck about the fork?
[01:22:40] Speaker A: Hey, bro, this is a stabbing, scooping, eating apparatus.
[01:22:44] Speaker B: Now, the soup spoon.
We do need the soup spoon.
[01:22:47] Speaker A: No, you can use a tablespoon.
[01:22:48] Speaker B: Nah, the soup spoon. Different than the tablespoon. The soup spoon deep.
[01:22:52] Speaker A: Hear me out.
[01:22:53] Speaker B: Okay?
[01:22:54] Speaker A: The soup spoon, little wider, so you. The tablespoon. More, more, More what?
Pause. We gonna re. Rock the manor list.
Hit us up. Or actually make your manners list in the comments.
[01:23:08] Speaker B: Yeah, can y' all give us a list of manners?
[01:23:09] Speaker A: Manners. The new manners list. Let's do the new manners list.
[01:23:12] Speaker B: Fuck no. They gotta give us a list of manners, and then we gotta rework the old manners.
[01:23:19] Speaker A: Okay?
[01:23:19] Speaker B: We just gotta restructure the whole manners.
[01:23:21] Speaker A: We gonna remix the manners.
[01:23:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:23:22] Speaker A: All right, so make a list of manners that either make sense to you, don't make sense to you, tell us what it is, and then we gonna remix them bitches.
[01:23:29] Speaker B: And honestly, are you logged into the effect immediately Instagram?
[01:23:34] Speaker A: No.
[01:23:35] Speaker B: Let's do it in the DMs so they don't gotta go through all the comments and all that type of stuff.
[01:23:39] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:23:40] Speaker B: Cause we don't. You know, I don't read the comments. Okay, so. And I don't wanna see no bullshit going through the comments. Cause a lot of y' all gonna be hitting from the channel if I get in that motherfucker.
[01:23:49] Speaker A: All right, so DM us on our socials.
[01:23:52] Speaker B: Yeah, DM us.
[01:23:53] Speaker A: Yes, DM us on our socials. On. Effective immediately. Just search. Effective immediately.
[01:23:57] Speaker B: Don't double dip either. Yeah, either send it to him or send it to me.
[01:24:01] Speaker A: Send it to Effective immediately.
[01:24:03] Speaker B: Oh, you gonna check your DMs?
[01:24:05] Speaker A: Hell no.
[01:24:06] Speaker B: Are you gonna check the effective immediately DM?
[01:24:07] Speaker A: No.
So nay still gotta do it. Nay and Irene. Yeah, Irene.
[01:24:13] Speaker B: You heard that when we signed you a. Yeah.
[01:24:15] Speaker A: Is she good?
You know what I'm saying? I stay out of there after that. The 2024. I stay out of my DMs. But yeah, we gonna re rock the Manners. We gonna remix them. So send your list and we gonna do that next week.
Do you got your cards?
[01:24:30] Speaker B: Nah, I left em at home. But I got T shirts in the mail now.
[01:24:35] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[01:24:36] Speaker B: You T shirts. Yeah, T shirts in the mail now. If you wanna purchase a shirt. Ginaviews, la. And the card game, hofessions.com.
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[01:24:47] Speaker A: Oh, we do have people to shout out.
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