Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, Hip Hop Nation?
[00:00:07] Speaker C: It's your favorite homegirl, ginaviews.
[00:00:08] Speaker A: Special guest in the studio, live and direct. Welcome to the show for the first time. Lakia.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: Yes. The first time. I'm excited. I was hearing about y'. All. I'm like, well, should I be nervous?
[00:00:17] Speaker A: I wanna know.
[00:00:18] Speaker B: They said your ass crazy.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: They said I'm crazy?
[00:00:20] Speaker C: Yeah, you.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Between the two of us, I'm the crazy one.
[00:00:22] Speaker B: Yeah, you crazy.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: Have you seen her shit go viral?
[00:00:24] Speaker B: No, but I know Gina.
[00:00:26] Speaker C: He the one with the problem, right?
[00:00:27] Speaker B: Yeah, they said that.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: Who the fuck is they?
[00:00:30] Speaker C: Them.
[00:00:31] Speaker B: Everybody.
[00:00:31] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Everybody know you playing.
Well, thank you for coming through.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: Thank y' all for having me.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: I know you outside, moving around, moving and shaking, doing your thing.
I want to ask you first and foremost, because I know Gina normally asks people when they come to la. Like, people that's not from here have their own perspective on la.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah?
[00:00:54] Speaker A: I would like to know your perspective on la. People.
People, yes. Not the niggas that move here.
[00:00:59] Speaker B: Okay, then the people.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: We natives. Yeah, I'm talking about like.
[00:01:03] Speaker B: Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Y' all from la?
[00:01:04] Speaker A: Hell, yeah.
[00:01:05] Speaker C: The real la.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: The real la. You get what I'm saying? I ain't experienced that. I probably done drove, you know.
[00:01:10] Speaker C: You ain't had no chili cheese fries with pastrami yet?
[00:01:13] Speaker B: Nah, I ain't did no shit like that.
[00:01:14] Speaker C: You trying to fuck around?
[00:01:15] Speaker B: Hell, yeah.
[00:01:16] Speaker C: I can take her to Stevens.
[00:01:18] Speaker B: I'm with the shit. I'm a foodie, so I'm with it. You know, I'm from Milwaukee. I take y' all to get a gym suit, you know?
[00:01:23] Speaker C: Wait, what's that?
[00:01:23] Speaker B: It's a sandwich that got so many meats on that nigga. It's just. It's just great.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: I'm pescatarian.
[00:01:30] Speaker B: I don't have nothing.
[00:01:31] Speaker C: I need all my protein.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: They got a fish sandwich or nothing?
[00:01:33] Speaker B: They got a fish sandwich.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: What kind of fish, though? I don't do tilapia.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: I ain't no tilapia. Not even fish, bro. My mama used to cook that. You know, that was a little hood meal.
[00:01:41] Speaker C: Tilapia. Not real.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: No.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: Hell, no.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: You eat that shit, don't you? Yeah, she eat it. But I would love to. My experience of people that's from la, it's like they delusional. But I didn't get to meet people like, you know what I'm saying? From the hood.
[00:01:59] Speaker C: You've been with the transplants?
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: People that move here and reality tv,
[00:02:03] Speaker B: like, they minds are screwed and they do that shit you can't smell and stuff.
[00:02:07] Speaker C: Like what? Huh?
[00:02:08] Speaker A: They do that shit you can't smell.
[00:02:09] Speaker C: I should mind my business if I
[00:02:10] Speaker B: can't smell it, right?
[00:02:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:02:11] Speaker A: Fact. I don't know about that, but okay. That's dope. I appreciate that. I don't know many people from Milwaukee. Like, I know people are from the region, but Milwaukee's an interesting place. Tell me something specific to Milwaukee culture.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Specific to Milwaukee culture. I guess I would have to use a artist.
Chicken Pee. If you know a artist with P on the end of their name, they probably from Milwaukee.
[00:02:35] Speaker C: What the P stand for?
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Shit, I don't know. Paid. I don't know.
[00:02:39] Speaker C: Player, player, Pimp shit.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: It is some real pimp shit in Milwaukee. But Chicken Pee, Um.
Jp, Lonnie P. You know, all these artists. I feel like that kind of just sums up our, like, everything about it. Like, the type of. We dance a lot.
[00:02:54] Speaker A: Okay. That's what I was looking for. Cause, you know, like, in la, they associate us with gang culture. And in New York, it's Timbs and fashion.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Yeah, we be dancing and shit. Like, if it's like. I remember a moment where Milwaukee was just trending for a new dance all the time. Like, and then one dance that I grew up on was banging.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: You know, that's different out here. We.
[00:03:10] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: What does that mean?
[00:03:12] Speaker C: What's y' all banging?
[00:03:13] Speaker A: What does that mean?
[00:03:14] Speaker B: It's a whole bunch of arms and legs, nigg. I don't know what's going on, but I do know what's going on. If I do it, it look cool.
The culture there. We do house parties and shit still to this day. Probably not.
[00:03:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I was about to say probably not. I don't think nobody doing house parties no more.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: But what year did it stop, though?
[00:03:31] Speaker C: Cause I feel like it stopped when we house parties stopped when we start
[00:03:35] Speaker B: calling them kickbacks sets and kickbacks. Okay.
[00:03:38] Speaker C: I don't know, though.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: We still.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: I think house parties stopped when niggas start having enough money to get their own guns.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: Nah. Cause the house parties was getting shot up.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. They was getting shot up.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:47] Speaker C: It was just more so about shit.
[00:03:50] Speaker A: No, no, no. This shit finna get shot up.
[00:03:53] Speaker C: I'm low key expecting did the party
[00:03:55] Speaker B: really crack if it didn't get shot up? That's what I'm saying. If it ain't no running out.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: And you know, y' all hood.
[00:04:01] Speaker B: We didn't have fun.
[00:04:03] Speaker C: So, yeah, what was your first job?
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Ooh, that's a good one. One thing about me, I work the job.
[00:04:09] Speaker C: Shit.
[00:04:10] Speaker B: I be walking around la. I'd be like, you know, I used to work here. They be like, damn, bitch, where didn't you work?
My first job was probably McDonald's.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: Okay, what, was you on fries or you was on floor?
[00:04:19] Speaker B: Man, they tried to put me on fries, but I be wearing, like, wet shit on my feet. Like, you know, like, I be wearing good shoes. I'm like, I'm not finna fuck up my shoes for no fries. So then I went to the cashier, but then it was too many bitches with attitudes early in the morning.
[00:04:32] Speaker C: I was like, bitch, you mad at
[00:04:33] Speaker B: me about a dollar coffee? I'm like, change my position.
So then I went to the window. Love the window. Cause they treat you well in the window. Niggas was flirting with me, handing me $20. I'm like, I can't accept your tip. It's McDonald's, but give me that.
[00:04:47] Speaker C: So, yeah, you was taking tips through the window at McDonald's. Are you doing music at McDonald's yet?
[00:04:54] Speaker B: I was doing music. I was doing, like, freestyles in the car. You know where I came from, so people knew me.
I used to give people free fries if they was my fan and shit.
Yeah, I was. I was. I was really.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: Which McDonald's was this?
[00:05:06] Speaker B: Oh, damn. My first one was in the hood. It was on 27th and Capital. If you're from my city, you know, it was in the hood right across from Wendy's. They used to be beefing with us and shit. Fuck McDonald's.
[00:05:15] Speaker A: The Wendy's?
[00:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:17] Speaker C: What?
[00:05:18] Speaker A: I thought that was only on Twitter.
[00:05:19] Speaker C: Y' all thought that was just Gen Z Twitter?
[00:05:22] Speaker B: No, but for real, though, it was in the hood. And then I had to move to a different one, and that was, like, closer to my grandma house. My grandma in a very nice situation. Then I went all the way to Pewaukee.
I kept a job, y'. All. I could name six.
[00:05:38] Speaker C: Did you leave the job or did you get fired?
[00:05:41] Speaker B: Oh, I left every job because it was more so, like, I knew I couldn't really work. I knew that's. You know, I feel like we had to have jobs as teens. Like, it was like, the normal, you know, But.
[00:05:51] Speaker C: And as girls, you know, I had
[00:05:53] Speaker B: to get my nails and shit done. But I never really lasted past, like, three weeks at a job, though. Really? Yeah. I used to get my first check, be out of that bitch, spend it you're looking for another job, you looking for another one. You know, And I only ever really got jobs. Cause my friends was getting jobs, and they be like, I'm trying to kick it they at work. So I'm like, you know, I'm finna apply for where you at? Go kick it at work.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: Did you notice that people treated you different?
Well, you say you was giving people free fries cause of your fans. Which niggas did that now? But did you notice that people started to treat you different at work once you start to get popular?
[00:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely.
[00:06:27] Speaker A: Were they hating?
[00:06:29] Speaker B: I don't know if you can really peep a hater right off Rip, though. You know what I'm saying? Haters show up as fans, so I can't really say. They be on some, you know, let me take a picture with you. And then you on Facebook. Something like, this bitch work at McDonald's, y'. All.
[00:06:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
It's like I seen a TikTok of you a long, long time ago about undercover animosity.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: Yes. Ooh, that should be scary.
[00:06:51] Speaker C: How do you combat that?
[00:06:52] Speaker B: I just wanna. I'm asking this to everybody. Like, show me who you are. Off rip. See, I'm a wolf. You see me coming. If I don't like you, bitch, I don't like you. But I feel like a lot of people be wolves in sheep's clothing. It's like you would think a bitch, your friend, the whole time, she do not like you. That's scary.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Why did they do that?
[00:07:08] Speaker C: It hurt a little bit too.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: It do. Especially when you think they your friend be like, God damn. I don't let you wear my damn shoes, bitch.
[00:07:15] Speaker C: For real, you talking about me in my shoes, right?
[00:07:19] Speaker B: They do it. Yeah, they do it.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: Man.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: I done been. I done had people around me like that really do not like me. And I find out after I gave them a job, you know what I'm saying? Put money in their pocket and shit. So shit be hurting, man.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: Did you. Okay, so if you got rid of those people, how did you identify them? Or did they reveal themselves?
[00:07:39] Speaker B: You know, I do believe that there's this 90 day thing.
People cannot, you know, people can only fake who they are for three months.
And maybe that's just from experience, but I feel like every single time a nigga done played in my face, it's been after three months.
Okay, watch. Apply it to somebody. A bitch you just met.
[00:07:58] Speaker C: Oh, no. I have the best judgment of people. I be telling him about people that he done been friends with for years. Like I could pick up some shit within, like, 20 minutes of knowing somebody.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: Really?
[00:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah, she really good at that.
[00:08:11] Speaker C: I could smell it on the motherfucker.
[00:08:12] Speaker A: I don't think I care enough to identify it, but she be peeping it.
[00:08:15] Speaker B: My discernment. I had to pray for it because I see you, and if there's potential there, I'll believe in that. But I don't really, like, you know, peep it right off. Rip.
[00:08:24] Speaker C: What's your sign?
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Pisces.
[00:08:25] Speaker C: Mm.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: My birthday Saturday.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: I don't have nothing to say about Pisces.
[00:08:30] Speaker C: I don't know nothing about.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: Oh, I know one thing, but it ain't flattering.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: What?
Most of Pisces I knew in my life got addiction problems.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: Oh.
I think I'm addictive, but I don't really have an addict. Like an addictive personality, if that makes sense.
[00:08:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: What makes you addictive?
[00:08:47] Speaker B: I mean, you know, you gotta start asking around. I don't know.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: All right, bet.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Tell me who. But, yeah, I don't know.
[00:08:57] Speaker C: I don't know anything bad about Pisces.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: Me either.
[00:09:00] Speaker C: Like, you know, like a cancer is. You emotional Scorpio. You a liar, A Leo. You guys give to Earth, but like,
[00:09:06] Speaker A: a Pisces, but the fuck up, bro.
She tried to slip that shit in there.
[00:09:10] Speaker B: Tried to throw that shit in there. I'm like, wait, what?
Leo?
[00:09:13] Speaker C: Yeah, Leo's God's gift to Earth.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: You Leo.
[00:09:16] Speaker C: Mm. August. Leo's, though.
[00:09:17] Speaker A: We talk about women all the time as far as, like, it's women's month.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: But I know the struggle she's had in being media. What are your struggles from a woman's perspective? Coming up in music specific to hip hop, just.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: I feel like it's different now. And shout out the girls that have broke that, like, you know, barrier. But just being yourself in this industry without, like, judgment, just not being judged. Yeah. Like, I feel like we get criticized so much.
[00:09:45] Speaker A: You talking about women or black women?
[00:09:47] Speaker B: Damn, that was deep.
Fuck. I'm gonna have to say black women, I do love all women, but black women is just a little harder for us to just be ourselves, our natural selves, without being labeled anything. I was just talking to this nigga on the phone. He, like, stop putting your hands all on camera. You ever seen baps? I'm like, nigga, shut the fuck up. You know, that's like, why are you. I'm talking with my hands. You calling me ghetto?
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
I don't know.
[00:10:09] Speaker C: You kind of get. You get judged for anything. Yeah, you can. It's Also difficult to have friendships with the other gender because it's like, oh,
[00:10:21] Speaker B: you posting this nigga. Oh, y' all fucking.
[00:10:23] Speaker C: Or you, you know, like, you can't. It's difficult for me if I support or post a rapper too much. Then now it's rumored that I'm fucking with him or something.
[00:10:31] Speaker B: You know, I mean, yeah, that come with it, though.
[00:10:35] Speaker C: Can you talk to us about this Hersky era?
[00:10:39] Speaker B: Yes. Hersky is just about empowering myself. When I first like labeled it this era, I was like, empowering myself. I like no longer need validation from anybody and I just feel like that's what Hersky was. But it's also for women, though, just how much I love women and black women in general. You know, just being able to be ourselves and living in our truths, labeling who we are and motherfuckers not questioning it. Us being unapologetic about everything we do. So that's what Hersky era is to me.
That's what it's about.
[00:11:11] Speaker C: Okay, you got songs like Wantham Hood.
What's the other one?
Mind you'd Business.
[00:11:18] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:11:19] Speaker C: You do a really, really good job of doing, like samples and covers and, you know, flips and stuff like that. Thank you.
Has there been any, though, that you wanted to do or that you did do, but you had like clearance issues?
[00:11:33] Speaker B: Hell yeah.
Damn. Me and Callie had just did this Frank Ocean sample. It was crazy.
Y' all know that model bra with the Aliwas? Mm hm.
They like. It's not getting clear.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Just let it just straight up. No.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Yeah, really, it's crazy, but it's a crazy record. Shout out Cali, but stuff like that. The ones that just be like, I be sampling shit like from Beyonce and I be like, girl, just keep it in the tuck.
[00:12:00] Speaker A: Just keep it in the tuck. That's for you?
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's for me in the car.
[00:12:03] Speaker C: You can't like leak it like through like mixtape or like something like that. It's not a workaround with it.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: I mean, shit, I mean, we can. I just don't want to run into no logistics. Shit, I just left a label. I don't got time for nothing.
[00:12:13] Speaker C: Yeah, no bullshit.
[00:12:15] Speaker A: Mind your business is mine. Just. Cause I like icons growing up, like I was burning them CDs and stuff like that.
Do people bring you the beats already or you have a hand in like picking which ones you wanna fuck with?
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah, so I'm. At first I would like allow people to play me stuff, but I'm very selective with stuff now.
But that specific one, I was In New York. And I seen Hitmaker. Like, he was literally walking out of his hotel and he like, meet me at the studio. And I'm like, okay.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Y' all had already knew each other or. Yes. Okay, okay.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: He worked on, like, my first mixtape. We had so many songs together, so we already had in a relationship. But when we went to the studio, he played two songs. And when I heard that one, I'm like, yes. All I kept thinking was, like, icons. Trina. Like, I'm just hearing it. I love Miami. You know, I had female goat. I had the city girls on that. So I was like, miami fucking with me. Heavy. If we do this, like, you know. And I remember sending it to P at the time. He like, I already know who gonna be on the remix. Do that shit right now.
Right now. We're gonna drop that shit right now. And I. I remember we didn't even.
I don't even think we was into mixing before. He was thinking about a date to drop it.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: To drop it.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:25] Speaker C: Cause it's that good.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: It was good.
That's one of my favorites to this day.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: You just brought up P. I think it's interesting. Cause you said you just left a label too. What's your. So you're currently independent?
[00:13:36] Speaker B: I am. I'm freshly independent.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: Fully independent.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Fully independent. I do have a distro deal with human resources.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Okay, bet.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: So shout out them for being my new home and supporting me. But, yes, I did leave camping QC in 2024.
Legally, I've been out since the end of 2024, like, October.
[00:13:54] Speaker A: So you just took time to just gather yourself.
[00:13:57] Speaker B: Gather myself.
It was a lot. Being in the industry that young, it's like a lot. I was young. I was impressionable. I was moving quick.
Like, my career was going really, really fast. So I just needed to breathe for real. Just find myself, learn myself. I don't feel like I got a chance to do that. I went from high school to Atlanta. Before I was a resident in Atlanta, I got signed to qc. They at they peak, you know, it's like, you gotta. It was like a lot of weight to carry. I was the first person out of Milwaukee with a huge record deal. It was like, a lot on my shoulders.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: So did you. When you got signed, did you immediately, like, get in the studio or did
[00:14:35] Speaker B: you like, the day that I, like, met P at the studio to sign Lil Baby and Yachty was on the back of the car in the parking lot. We finna go to the studio.
I'm like, okay. Nervous as shit. I Remember what I had on and everything? Lil Baby and Yachty, I'm like, fuck it, I'mma go in there. And I remember Yachty just working with me on a lot of songs and shit. So it was very family oriented. They did a lot for me. They gave me a platform.
[00:14:59] Speaker A: The reason I asked is because I heard that they run a system like that. And then. Yeah, that process, I mean, going through that, as far as being on a label, did you pick up anything? Did you. There's no animosity. Like, you didn't pick up. Did you pick up any game, any gyms?
[00:15:13] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah. I just feel like what I took from that. And of course, my mother installed this hustler mentality into me. But like, that shit at qc, it's like they grinding every day. I'm seeing people sleep in the studio. I thought that I was like, working till you get around these n like Lil Baby. And it's like, it's not about doing it once. You gotta do it again and again and again. So I was just watching somebody really, like, build that shit brick by brick. So I think it was just the hunger. Yeah, you can't let that go.
[00:15:43] Speaker A: So then what made you step away?
[00:15:45] Speaker B: It just didn't feel like home anymore. And I feel like I'm very intuitive. I try to trust my gut.
A lot of personal things happened over there that I'm just not ready to discuss. But it was a lot of stuff where I was like, I gotta trust myself and I gotta go find something that makes me feel like I'm able to be here and be myself and tell my story without taking bits and pieces out of it.
[00:16:06] Speaker C: So, yeah, how do you manage being independent and then signing to such a large label and then being independent again?
[00:16:15] Speaker B: It's crazy. Cause being independent before, it didn't even feel like I was independent. It just felt like I, you know, grinding. I'm grinding. I know that I want to change my life. I know that this is a talent of mine that I want to make money from. So it didn't feel like, you know, it felt like a hobby I could get paid from at that time, you know? Yeah, a talent I could get paid from. So, I don't know, I feel like the biggest change was going from such a machine like QC and capital to being independent to being independent. That's the craziest change. That's why I had to take my break. I said, well, wait a minute. You know, it's kind of like stepping away from your mother that's been holding Your hand your whole life and you like, get out there and now you gotta pay taxes.
[00:16:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: Do you have a perspective to offer other artists? Because there are a lot of artists who push this narrative. Like, independent is the golden goose. Independent is the way. And it's like you don't understand what come with that shit.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I understand the struggle of being signed and I understand the struggle of being independent now. And neither of those are easy because you think that when you get signed, you own this shit, Life change. But that's when the real work gotta come in. Cause I was on a label with heavy hitters, you know, Migos Baby, Yachty City Girls, you know, so that's when I was like. I had a lot of pressure to be great like them.
So I know the struggle of making music and not creating all those back to back hits that you're supposed to be doing on such a huge label. But I also now know the struggle of you being your support, you know, you putting your money up and, you know, you having to get out there and do that shit. Yeah, it's like six, seven, man. It's whatever you want to do.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: Six seven is crazy.
[00:17:49] Speaker C: On the female goat you opened up with. They like Lakea. Why they sleeping on you so hard? After five years, do you feel like people are still asleep on you?
[00:17:57] Speaker B: I am they favorite motherfucking pillow. I've gotta be like a duvet cover or something. This motherfucker gotta be soft. People be sleeping on me for real. But I don't know. I feel like I already proved a lie. I proved I could rap. I proved that I could get to where I wanted to go. I got the talent, the skill, the looks. I just feel like right now, the era I'm in is just proving to people that do believe in me.
[00:18:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: Like, that I can get there. Fuck the haters. I already did, you know, they know what I did.
[00:18:24] Speaker C: So how do you think you were able to be so successful dropping music during the pandemic?
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Whew. I do not know. I do not know, like.
[00:18:32] Speaker C: Cause you had outside music. You didn't have in the house music.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: It could not be outside. I did not touch the people for so long. I remember.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: Time's up. Drop 2020, right?
[00:18:41] Speaker C: Mm.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: I remember every. Like, the first thing that I did was 2021 rolling loud. That was the first stage that I hit.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: Damn, that's a hell of a stage to hit for the first, right?
[00:18:51] Speaker B: I mean, it was right. That was a crazy stage.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: Yeah, nigga, that's a big. That's crazy.
[00:18:56] Speaker C: Imagine coming out of high school, going
[00:18:58] Speaker A: to Rolling Loud, right?
[00:18:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, we see so much now, though. That's what I love. Like, so many young artists are breaking, you know, those barriers. But, yeah, I couldn't talk to nobody. I was doing all Zoom calls. I remember Zoom performances. I was like, in that situation. That was crazy.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Wait, you did, like, a performance on Zoom?
[00:19:15] Speaker B: Like a. I had the opportunity to. They was like, you know, like, award shows were things where you could perform.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: BET Awards was virtual in 2021, I think.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah. But I don't think it was that hard, though, because I came from sitting in my car rapping. So. Shit, if we finna have to just do this shit via camera, let's do it.
[00:19:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: What's the main thing that changed for you musically? Going, like Gina said, into a major and then out from a music standpoint,
[00:19:40] Speaker B: creatively, I feel like I'm making music that I believe in now as opposed
[00:19:45] Speaker A: to just being, like, what fed those records.
[00:19:47] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. And just, you know, being the artist that you have to be to make it. I feel like now I'm just. I'm back to my roots. I'm hungry. I know what I want, and I think I know how I want to reintroduce myself now. So it's like I'm just doing this shit for me. Like, of course, for my supporters and my new fans and all this other shit, but I feel like everything's just more believable. You just hear the hunger. You hear the. You know, I'm telling my story. I feel like that's the biggest change.
[00:20:11] Speaker C: You was on a cover of a XXL freshman magazine.
And, you know, when the XXL covers drop, like, the artists get drugged. Looking back, do you think XXL got it right? Obviously. What you. Yeah, yeah. Cause it's COI Leray 42 Duck, DDG, Pooh Shiesty.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: I mean, I remember everybody that was in that class. What? We have Flo. Millie, too?
[00:20:35] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Flo Milli.
Shit. That was everybody that was popping in the pandemic. For real. Like, I remember the, like, Pooh Shiesney Run.
It was crazy, but I feel like they be getting it right sometimes. They don't. I loved my class. I felt like it was a good range of people, you know, so this is great in my class.
[00:20:53] Speaker C: Yeah, this is great. Ruby Rose is on here too. This is a good one.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: Do you.
I want to hear you rap, too, but.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: As far as girls in the rap game, this is one of the best times. It's More saturated.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: It's so crazy.
[00:21:07] Speaker A: It's one of the best times ever to be a female in hip hop.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: It is.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: Do you feel.
I guess, what's your perspective on that? And then also the second question would be, do you think that the women have to start collaborating more? Do you think that everybody gets along? Do you get along?
[00:21:23] Speaker B: I'm gonna start with what my perspective is on that. At first it was like, God damn. I look, I'm talking about everybody wanna like, I done seen random bitches with songs. I be like, you know what, sis? Do you. It gotta be that damn easy, you know what I'm saying? At first, I remember trying to figure out how I was gonna get signed. It just seems so easy now, you know? So shout out to all the girls. That's really popping right now. One of my favorites is Wak Niece. I'm obsessed. Oh, yeah. I love, like the balance between cocky and humble that she is. Her story, everything. I fuck with all the girls that's really hot right now and out.
But I don't know, it wasn't that easy for me, man. I felt like I was harassing the fuck out of some labels. So blowing them up. Blow what? I was harassing they ass.
[00:22:05] Speaker C: Would you do another show like Impact?
[00:22:09] Speaker B: I don't know. I probably wouldn't do no reality tv, no shit like that. I'm not a scripted person. I get to saying shit that's off script. Now everybody looking at me like I'm
[00:22:17] Speaker A: crazy, you know, so same bitch. I don't even like this burger.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: But you was supposed to say you liked the burger.
[00:22:24] Speaker C: I don't like the burger.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: I don't like the burger.
[00:22:26] Speaker C: It's dry.
[00:22:28] Speaker B: But yeah, I wouldn't do no shit like that. If I do TV again, of course it would be like some acting or like reality TV on my own terms, you know, maybe like a documentary that's thrown out there about me. Like a tour documentary, something like that.
All that other shit telling me what to say on paper, I'm not doing that.
[00:22:45] Speaker C: Did you have any resistance going into reality tv?
[00:22:47] Speaker B: Yes, that was the huge thing. I really didn't want to do it. And I felt like it was something that was kind of forced on me. So that's why I had the whole first season. I had such an attitude and I can't fake my funk. I'm irritated. I don't wanna be here. They like, lakee, how you doing? Good, you know.
You know what you wanna talk about? Nothing. Like, you know, bitches at the table arguing. I Have nothing to say. I'm here. I'm getting my camera time. I'm going. I have to go, though. So
[00:23:16] Speaker A: I feel it real for tv.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it was too much.
[00:23:21] Speaker C: Big Flexer, obviously. That's a huge Lakia song. That's my favorite Lakiya song.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: I love that. My LA people love Big Flexer.
[00:23:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: Yeah. This was the first city that sold me out, y', all, when I went on my tour. Really, L.A. really? They like. And yeah, when you come out, play Big Flexi. You can wait, but like make that your intro song and you could play
[00:23:40] Speaker C: it about 10 more times. Yeah, that's the. Did you know it was a hit, like instantly I knew it was like
[00:23:46] Speaker B: an anthem for my city. I was like, p, like, you gotta shoot it in Milwaukee. I'm gonna ship all my cars out there. Bring everybody out. Damn, we gonna get Keymotion out there. Shout out to Keymotion. It was a big thing for my city. I had just signed such a huge deal.
All of the rappers that were hot at the time came out for me to support me. It was huge. I felt the love because it's hard coming from a city like, I know small cities, you know, it's like I've been rapping 40 years. What you mean? This 19 year old bitch done got signed to QC, you know, so I thought that's what the reaction was gonna be. But they all came out and showed me love and I thought that was so dope. It was big. That's still a huge record for me.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: Did you have any female rap influences coming up?
[00:24:27] Speaker B: Hell yeah, I did.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: Who was that?
[00:24:30] Speaker B: A little bit of. A little bit of Nicki. A lot of bit of Nicki. But I was from Milwaukee. I'm from Milwaukee, so I listened to a lot of cash. Dow.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: Got it.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Listened to a lot of Tink, Detroit. Yes. Dreezy. Miami's like, people that are considered, like, slept on and underground. They were huge to me.
Like, I remember the first song I cried to Tink. Gone for good. I said, for real? Yes. I was on the floor in the hood at my friend's house, at my cousin's house. I'm sorry. And I had just got off Oovoo, man. The motherfucker just broke my heart, you know, we had what we have. Oovoo, Skype, shit like that. Before FaceTime, I had the green filter on my face. Shit. Motherfucker done broke my heart. I had to hang up. I'm over here crying on the floor. And I like to play songs that's gonna make me cry more. Cause I'm dramatic.
[00:25:18] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: So I played Tink going for good, and I was like, damn, right after that, I remember I was making freestyles like that. Yeah, like those heart breaking songs, those heartbreaks.
[00:25:29] Speaker C: Them heartbreaks back then were different. Cause you kind of started acting like movie scenes, bro. Like, it's like it felt like you was in a movie or something.
[00:25:35] Speaker B: I don't know why. When we were that young, shit felt so painful.
[00:25:39] Speaker C: You ever slid down the wall?
[00:25:41] Speaker B: Shit. I do that now, though.
I'm dramatic.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Why you so emotional?
[00:25:47] Speaker B: I'm dramatic.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: You dramatic in real life.
[00:25:51] Speaker C: What's the most dramatic thing you did where you look back, you was like, damn, I was walling. She.
[00:25:56] Speaker A: You crashed out.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: I crashed out. How'd you know?
[00:25:59] Speaker A: Cause I just. I mean, we're par for the course at this point, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck?
[00:26:06] Speaker B: Remember I told you I be quitting jobs a lot? So I didn't even have no money. But I remember I had a little bit. I'm like, I'm gonna take this motherfucking car.
My brother had went to jail. He had left a. He had a Saturn. And I ain't even have my license or nothing. I said, I'm gonna take this car, put some gas in it, and I'm gonna pull up on this broad. Pull up.
They lived in an apartment. I was waiting for everybody to come out. Somebody opened the door. Cause you gotta get out. You gotta get in that door to get to that door.
[00:26:29] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:30] Speaker B: So I'm just waiting for somebody to come out. I park it, wait for somebody to come out. I went up the stairs. Cause they right here.
I went up the stairs, waited for them to come in. Start fine on they. I crashed out.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: You told us that what you did. You didn't tell us no why or why you just pulled up on a girl to start firing on n. Like, what you mean?
[00:26:47] Speaker C: And I'm not even mad at that
[00:26:49] Speaker B: because my heart was broken. Like, why would you do that to me? I don't even know what they did to me at that point. But I know they broke my heart. So I attacked them. And I don't believe in don't do this. But I did it because my heart was on the line and it was broken.
So I did what I had to do. But we got cool at the end of the night. I ended up spending the night and stuff.
[00:27:08] Speaker A: Oh, nah. Y' all need to just play now.
Let's rap.
[00:27:11] Speaker C: Spending the night. She tripping, Spending the night after the squad.
[00:27:14] Speaker A: You fucking tripping, bro. I ain't never.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: So y' all ain't never what? Argued with somebody, got into it with them.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: I don't fight if you ever put a hand on me. We never cool, right?
[00:27:24] Speaker B: As you shouldn't be. Cause that's weird and toxic. But, like, what I'm saying is, he
[00:27:29] Speaker C: like, but have you did it?
[00:27:32] Speaker B: But have you done that, though?
[00:27:33] Speaker A: No.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Oh, damn.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: No.
I don't participate.
I'm way too understanding and too articulate. If we.
[00:27:41] Speaker B: What's your sign?
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Capricorn.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: I love y'.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: All. Yes, you should.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: I'm not gonna lie. This is my first experience with a Capricorn.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: Let's wrap this shit up. You know what I'm saying? Let's go.
[00:27:52] Speaker C: He happy. He finally scores.
[00:27:53] Speaker A: Man, that nigga been pulling up.
[00:27:55] Speaker C: We don't fuck with Capricorns.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: Nothing, nothing, nothing.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: Y' all so understanding and just like.
[00:28:02] Speaker C: You like January and December, you know,
[00:28:04] Speaker B: I haven't experienced the January, but December is really like, just so you know.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Yeah, wait until you get your full experience.
[00:28:11] Speaker A: Just so you know.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: January.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: January 12th, to be exact. Okay, the December ones, they like the over the counter Kirkland brand Capricorns. They not real.
They not the real.
[00:28:21] Speaker C: They don't count.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: Yeah, they not.
[00:28:22] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Those are the Sitaminophen Capricorns. Okay, Avery, let's rap. I want her to rap.
Hold on, let me get my headphones. All right, well, Akia is here. Tap in. It's effective immediately.
