Let's Rap About It Podcast On Effective Immediately | Viral Hits, Love & Hip Hop, New Music & More

February 17, 2026 00:46:38
Let's Rap About It Podcast On Effective Immediately | Viral Hits, Love & Hip Hop, New Music & More
Effective Immediately w/ DJ Hed & Gina Views ❗️
Let's Rap About It Podcast On Effective Immediately | Viral Hits, Love & Hip Hop, New Music & More

Feb 17 2026 | 00:46:38

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Hosted By

DJ Hed Gina Views

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Effective Immediately is a nationally syndicated radio show and podcast that serves as the ultimate destination for cultural conversations, exclusive interviews, and relevant content. Hosted by radio and television veteran DJ Hed and new media superstar Gina Views, the show is dedicated to injecting integrity and authenticity back into the media landscape. With a unique blend of raw authenticity, industry expertise, and cultural relevance, Effective Immediately is redefining media while staying true to the voices that shape it.

1:00 The Start Of “Let’s Rap About It” Podcast & Music Together 4:00 The “Pause Police” 7:00 “Certified Gangstas” By Jim Jones 9:00 Fabolous Cameo In “Brown Sugar” 10:30 Blueprint vs Ghetto Fabolous 12:00 “Nothin On Me” By Fabolous 13:00 Songs Being Shopped Around To Different Artists 15:00 Maino Pressed DJ Hed 17:00 Dave East Love For LA 18:00 “Hi Hater” By Maino 21:00 Soul Tape By Fabolous 22:30 Fabolous Freestyles 24:30 “Ballin” By Jim Jones 26:30 Independent vs. Labels 29:00 Jim Jones Talks Creating Love & Hip Hop 37:30 Dirty Mackin vs Hating 40:00 Gina Views First Time Seeing Fabolous 41:00 New Music From Fabolous 43:00 Fabolous Influence In Fashion

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[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head. Hey, Gina Views. We here. We got some legends in the building hanging out with us, man. We gonna rap about it for sure. We got Dave east is here. Capo. Jim Jones is here. Maino is here. Brooklyn. And speaking of Brooklyn, Fab is here. Fab, man. Thank y' all for coming through. Thank you, Honor. You know, east, we just. We just. We already rock, so you already been through, but this is your first time fucking with us, and I appreciate y' all immensely. It's all love, you know what I'm saying? Gina Views is a huge. She probably not gonna be able to talk for, like, the first five minutes. She's a huge rap fan. Yeah, I'm just gonna put it out there. [00:00:40] Speaker B: That's what's up. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Like, she know all y' all niggas, bars, and all that shit, so we gonna get to that. But I guess where I wanna start for y' all as a collective, because now going being rappers, artists in your own right, and now trying to take our jobs and being broadcasters, that's crazy. You gotta take your job. I would just wanna know what the inspiration was behind y' all clicking up and doing let's rap about it. Like, because it's funny as hell, and it's like watching the homies and the cousins kick it. It was regular. It wasn't. I wouldn't even say it was no. [00:01:12] Speaker C: Real inspiration behind it. [00:01:13] Speaker A: Like, we was already. We already had a vibe from working out to doing music to just running around the city. And I just feel like it was just something. There's just cameras on us now. Is that it? Speaking of which, I did. I remember watching. I think it was Jim. I don't remember who was going to the gym first, like, working out, but the gym videos is classic. [00:01:34] Speaker B: Right, Right, right, right, right. [00:01:36] Speaker A: And N would be holding each other accountable on that. On that camera. And I think that's where it started for me. When I started noticing the chemistry, I. [00:01:43] Speaker D: Was about to say, I. I got set up. I. I had no idea that podcasting was in my future or anything like that. We came to do an interview with Jim, and then it just steamrolled into us doing the show. But, you know, the foundation was there. The chemistry was there. You know what I'm saying? And I did, like, some research on, you know, podcasts and where. Even where the culture stands with it. I feel like hip hop has really tapped into that. Podcasting before that, to me, was just a different community. I ain't gonna put nobody no races or anything on it, but it was like a different community. But now I feel like hip hop is. And I think that's how people should embrace it, too. Everybody keeps saying, yo, rappers are now being like, it's. It's part of our culture now. And so it's not just, you know, just only rappers. It's a lot of people starting. It's athletes starting it. There's, you know, social influencers starting it. There's designers starting. So everybody's, you know, everybody's talking. They talk, so to say. You know what I'm saying? So that's where I did the research, and it looked like a thing that I wanted to do. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Rachel, you was gonna say something. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's just like you said, like, it's another bracket in the community, like, in the culture, actually. Like, everybody is trying to tap into it. I don't look at myself or. I don't think that they look at themselves as broadcasters or. You know what I mean? I think what we do is it's just like brothers coming together. We having conversations. Some of it funny, some of it, you know, some jewels. And you just. It's like talk that you would be with, like, you said, your cousin. You know what I mean? [00:03:18] Speaker A: Definitely remind me of my cousin. [00:03:19] Speaker C: We just kicking it. [00:03:20] Speaker B: We having fun at the same time. We just, you know, we just being ourselves. [00:03:25] Speaker A: And then in the midst of that. Is there music? Is there? I know. I know that y' all have music together, but is there? I know people probably ask y', all, is there, like a project in the works, or is that. Have y' all thought about it at least? [00:03:36] Speaker E: It's Dave. He's a lobby boy. [00:03:40] Speaker A: That's what the Reddit want to know. The Reddit niggas, like, where the tape at? [00:03:43] Speaker B: You know, we recorded, like, about eight, nine records. All four. [00:03:47] Speaker D: All four? [00:03:47] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [00:03:49] Speaker D: We actually was working on records before the podcast. We just was, like, got some shit just from. From the camaraderie being together. We just, you know, started putting the record. [00:03:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:04:00] Speaker B: I've been shower. [00:04:02] Speaker E: I've been watching since when? It was just the first one y' all did with Artist to artist, and then you brought them on, and y' all pausing so bad. I thought I was bad because I paused this on a regular. [00:04:12] Speaker C: It'd be od. [00:04:13] Speaker E: But y' all be having manipulated. [00:04:15] Speaker D: Pause your name when you introduced your name. [00:04:17] Speaker A: You see what I said? [00:04:18] Speaker C: I said, oh, my God. I just. I ain't like how you say you. [00:04:21] Speaker D: Gotta change your name. [00:04:23] Speaker B: You might have. [00:04:26] Speaker D: I'm not calling you. I'm not calling you your full name. I'm not even doing it. [00:04:30] Speaker E: Guess what? [00:04:30] Speaker D: It. Hold on. [00:04:35] Speaker A: First of all, you think I chose that? Who the fuck chooses that? You know what I'm saying? Niggas just made fun of me. Like I said, I have cousins like y'. All. They chose you, so we name chose you. [00:04:48] Speaker D: I ain't choose the name. The name chose me. [00:04:52] Speaker A: I didn't choose this. [00:04:55] Speaker B: I don't. I don't play pause. [00:04:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't. I know you anti, Paul. [00:04:59] Speaker E: They do. Be happy. [00:05:00] Speaker A: That's why you gotta pause. [00:05:01] Speaker E: So I got something for you to pull out on. [00:05:03] Speaker C: You ain't got no choice but to put. But to participate. [00:05:05] Speaker A: You got a whole page. [00:05:06] Speaker C: Because the way he talks is crazy. [00:05:07] Speaker E: Every time they play with you. Dave, you familiar with this right here? Every time they play with you, you gotta pull one of these cards out. This for y'. All, For y' all show. [00:05:15] Speaker C: What's the pause? Cards. [00:05:19] Speaker A: Whole fashions. [00:05:20] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Intimate experiences. [00:05:22] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:05:24] Speaker A: It's a car game. [00:05:27] Speaker D: It's definitely a maino type of warfare. That's the type of games he play. He play games like that? [00:05:35] Speaker C: Yeah, he's very risque. [00:05:38] Speaker B: Risque. [00:05:39] Speaker E: I made them cards myself. Every time they ask you some crazy shit, just pull a card out on them like Pokemon. [00:05:46] Speaker B: I like that. I like that. Whole fashions. [00:05:51] Speaker D: Intimate experiences. [00:05:55] Speaker B: I. [00:05:56] Speaker E: What? [00:05:56] Speaker A: Let me see. [00:05:56] Speaker C: Open it. [00:05:57] Speaker D: Let's read 1, 1, 800. [00:06:00] Speaker C: Let's read 1. [00:06:01] Speaker E: Man, are you about to crack it open right now? Well, I got an open box if you don't. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Oh. [00:06:10] Speaker D: They were setting you up for the struggle right there. [00:06:13] Speaker A: That was crazy. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Hold on. [00:06:17] Speaker C: That manic was working, right? [00:06:19] Speaker A: Okay, look, before we. Hold on. Can we. [00:06:25] Speaker D: You can't get in. [00:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah, you got to bite that. [00:06:26] Speaker E: Play it at the end. [00:06:27] Speaker A: I want to do. I want to talk about some rap real quick, because I can't have y' all here not talk about some rap. I got stories for each and every one of y'. All. But I. I want to start with Jim, because when, like, we was listening to Certificate, first of all, she just found out Certified Gangsters was a record like, four years ago. Right? [00:06:47] Speaker C: So that's crazy. You're probably young. It's cool. [00:06:52] Speaker E: I'm a kid a little bit. [00:06:55] Speaker A: I'm legal, but I get it. But when it. But my thing is, like, when that came out, that was such a. Like a impactful record, I guess you could say. And it wasn't necessarily a thing where it was like people were collaborating in that way, especially on that texture of record. When you. When you and Chuck did that. Was that. Was that. Did you get any. I guess I don't want to say energy, but did you get any pushback on. On collabing in that way? From where at that time? [00:07:22] Speaker C: From who? [00:07:23] Speaker A: Just in general. I don't know. [00:07:24] Speaker E: East Coast, west coast collabing? [00:07:25] Speaker D: Not. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Not necessarily that. That had already. To me, that had already passed in my perspective, but just from anywhere. [00:07:31] Speaker C: Only person that tried to give me some pushback at that time was. Was Dr. Dre. [00:07:35] Speaker A: He didn't want you to do the record? Or he. [00:07:37] Speaker C: He. [00:07:38] Speaker E: He. [00:07:38] Speaker C: He was mad that I was able to have games first likeliness out to the public on my record. [00:07:49] Speaker A: Oh. Before he got a chance to put. [00:07:51] Speaker C: Him out after he had just did the deal. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Damn. So. But didn't. [00:07:55] Speaker D: Didn't. [00:07:55] Speaker A: They. Did they had to clear it or. Or was that not a thing? [00:07:58] Speaker C: It didn't matter at that time. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Got it. Okay. [00:08:00] Speaker C: You heard. I don't care. I didn't. [00:08:02] Speaker A: It's records coming out. [00:08:03] Speaker C: Clearance about none of that. And shout out to Dr. Dre. But at that time, I ain't really care about nothing about these records going out. Shout out to Game. Shout out to Chuck. Dope record shouts to Eazy, E shouts. [00:08:14] Speaker A: To Lil E. That was one of them records, bro. Like, that shit. I was like, oh, my N was like, oh, my God. I can't believe. [00:08:20] Speaker C: Like, I was always a fan of west coast music. Coming up, Like, a big, big, big fan. Dpg, Dog Pound, all that. [00:08:25] Speaker A: Like, for real. [00:08:26] Speaker C: Super, big west coast fan. So when that beat was presented to me, it was like, oh, nah, this. I already knew the whole history and the culture. NWA Eazy was already easy, so it was dope. [00:08:40] Speaker A: That's what's up. [00:08:40] Speaker E: Well, since we going back in the day. Fabulous. I have been a fan for a long time. [00:08:46] Speaker D: Thank you. [00:08:46] Speaker E: You're my favorite rapper. I actually don't even see y' all if I'm keeping it real. [00:08:50] Speaker C: That's crazy. [00:08:52] Speaker B: Like, I get y'. [00:08:53] Speaker D: All. [00:08:55] Speaker B: Come on. [00:08:55] Speaker C: That's good. [00:08:57] Speaker D: Damn, Gina. [00:09:02] Speaker E: I got tweets that's, like, over just from the beginning of Twitter. I like my Twitter used to be Loso Graham. [00:09:08] Speaker C: Wow. [00:09:09] Speaker D: Because you would. [00:09:10] Speaker A: That was your ass. [00:09:11] Speaker D: That was my Twitter. [00:09:13] Speaker E: It go for me. It go fab. Wayne Drake Wale. Like, that's my. Like, y' all are my top. But this is so random. Why was you in Brown Sugar? [00:09:25] Speaker A: The movie? [00:09:27] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:09:30] Speaker D: When you hot. You know, movies start Just grabbing you to. To be in scenes of movies just to. For your namesake or for your likeness, you know what I'm saying? I was watching Fast and the Furious and Cardi B was in a helicopter. I'm like, what the. You know what I'm saying? But that's the type of. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It was one of them kind of things. For real. Like, I was in that. I was in another. What's the scary movie that they be making it funny or something like that. Screaming. It was like, scary movie. Or one of them parody. One of them. Yeah, one of them parody ones. That's kind of what I think. I just did it too, just for that sake. Because they really will tell you, like, yo, we just want to have a face out of nowhere that people gonna recognize but don't know why they kind of in it kind of thing. [00:10:17] Speaker E: Did they give you lines or, like, was it cut out or what we saw is all. [00:10:20] Speaker D: It was two lines or something like that. Whatever it was, it was like two lines just so you could make notice that it was you in there and all that. [00:10:28] Speaker A: Do you. Do you. Okay, I have a story about you, too. I took a lot of heat online because I bought Ghetto Fabulous instead of buying Blueprint. [00:10:37] Speaker D: Big Sean told me that too. Big Sean told me that he bought my album over Blueprint that year. But I also yours. I would was seem a little. Big Sean was the age. He was like, all of this is generational. So just how she said she ain't know certain songs. Like, so Big Sean at the age he was. I was more relatable to him to what Jay Z was, you know what I'm saying? [00:10:59] Speaker A: I can see that. [00:11:00] Speaker D: He told me that before, too. But you the second person besides Big Sean. I had never really heard nobody say instead of. [00:11:06] Speaker A: Or like, I think it happened. I'm saying this because, I mean, I get killed online for this tape. I said it with Elliot Wilson one day. But I think more people did it than they're willing to admit is my perspective. [00:11:18] Speaker D: It's also sometime music. That's why, like, people be getting mad at people's top fives and favorites and all that. It's all really what relates to you, you know what I'm saying? Like, when tell me they top fives, I'd be like, all right, cool. You know what I'm saying? I don't be like, nah, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes people have put me in a top five, and the other people in Their top five. I'm like, where do I fit? You know what I mean? In that. With. With those people. But at the same time, it's really who connected to you and who. What you was listening to. And. And that's. You know what I mean? There's no wrong answer in your top five. And your. Who's. You know what I'm saying? Who's your Mount Rushmore? Who Anything you try, your top 10 is yours. You know what I'm saying? So that's how I look at all of that. [00:11:59] Speaker E: I'm glad you said that. Cause we got cooked. We started a debate on the show about how's your favorite rapper been out wrapped. [00:12:05] Speaker A: Oh, we was on the radio with that. [00:12:06] Speaker E: Yeah. So then it went over to Twitter, and I said, well, my favorite rapper ain't never been out rap. Like, I can't relate to you. N. And the song that was up for the conversation was nothing on me with Wayne. [00:12:19] Speaker D: With me, Wayne, you, and. [00:12:20] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:12:20] Speaker D: And who else was on Jewels? You know, it's a crazy story about that song. I did that verse for Alchemist. He held that verse for a year and a half, almost two years, and then gave it to Wayne for Carter or whatever it was on Carter 3 or something like that. So I had. Did that as a freestyle for Alchemist. [00:12:41] Speaker A: Get the out of here. [00:12:42] Speaker D: And I don't. Next time I heard it, it was on Lil Wayne album with Juels and all. So I. It was never a crazy feature for anybody. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Did y' all know that. [00:12:53] Speaker E: Y' all was actually. Y' all was just on the show talking about verses. [00:12:55] Speaker A: That. [00:12:56] Speaker E: Verses that y' all laid that didn't come out right. [00:13:00] Speaker B: Songs that we did with people. [00:13:01] Speaker A: For people. Yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker E: Has there been any verses that you guys did for an artist? And then when it came out, somebody else was on it, and they just completely removed you. [00:13:11] Speaker C: Oh, kicked off the song. That's crazy. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Moved up a song without no notice. [00:13:19] Speaker C: I don't think I got boomed off a record like that. That's crazy. [00:13:23] Speaker A: I've done a song on a beat, and it was in my mind. It's my record. And then I hit a joint come out. Oh, the. The Beat producer like somebody else. [00:13:33] Speaker B: That happened a couple times. I hit a song on that same beat. [00:13:38] Speaker A: Shit like that. Get you hot. [00:13:40] Speaker C: The artist gave me a record. I'm playing my record in the studio. He hit a hook, man, like, yo, where you get my record from? No, this is my record. Artist gave him the same hook. [00:13:51] Speaker B: He g. What happened with me and Eminem, though? [00:13:54] Speaker D: The same hook. [00:13:55] Speaker A: I'm not afraid. [00:13:56] Speaker D: Oh, no, that's crazy. [00:13:57] Speaker B: I'm not afraid. That beat. That was my beat first. I had a whole song. [00:14:02] Speaker D: I'm not afraid. Sometimes producers just. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Just shop the beats. [00:14:05] Speaker D: Yeah, they just emailing and sending it to everybody. So you might do a song with it sometimes you might not let the producer know exactly when you first do it. Or sometimes you do. You do it and it's kind of like in a tuck, and you just have it for a little while, but they still sending the music. [00:14:21] Speaker A: He came to my studio and sang on a hook. Sang the hook in front of me in my studio, bro. [00:14:27] Speaker D: Yeah, that's crazy. Double up on the hook. [00:14:31] Speaker B: I don't know who had it. He sung it with you? [00:14:34] Speaker C: He sung it in my studio. [00:14:36] Speaker B: Oh. So I got his second. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Then. [00:14:40] Speaker B: I'm like, crazy, bro. He said, now I got one for you, man. I said, this is hard. [00:14:45] Speaker A: I sang this at gym studio. Like, Jim recorded. [00:14:48] Speaker B: He tell me he was with Cabo, and I guess he felt like them be together so I could just. You know what I mean? [00:14:55] Speaker A: You probably gonna jump on the record anyway, right? [00:14:56] Speaker E: It's the lobby boys. [00:14:57] Speaker A: Like, I'm hoping he was thinking that. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah, he had to be thinking like that. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Jim, you said we don't want to get nobody in trouble up here. [00:15:03] Speaker E: You said you kicked somebody off a song. Can you tell us who you picked up? No. [00:15:07] Speaker B: You're a little bit messy. [00:15:08] Speaker E: A little bit. You see the card? [00:15:10] Speaker A: Okay, so another. Another quick thing with you may know is, I don't know if you remember this, but recipes to Huey. You did a video. [00:15:18] Speaker B: That's right. [00:15:19] Speaker A: With Huey. And I met you. That was over 10 years ago or something like that. But that's the day I actually met you in person. I already been a fan because when you did Rumors, I edited that so I could play it on my college radio show. I edited that and I edited 300 bars when that shit came out. That's my main origin story. But when I actually met you in person, do you remember the conversation we had? [00:15:39] Speaker C: Nah. [00:15:39] Speaker B: We was shooting in Atlanta, right? [00:15:41] Speaker A: Yeah, we was just chopping it up. But I remember you told me you was born. I forgot where you said you was born. And I was like, oh, you from the West Coast. And you got mad at me. [00:15:49] Speaker B: I was born here. No, I was born in New York, but I lived in Watts. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Okay. [00:15:53] Speaker B: Bet As a baby. [00:15:54] Speaker A: Okay. And that's when I was like, oh, so you from the West Coast. And then you got mad at me. You're like, no, I'm from Brooklyn. [00:15:59] Speaker D: I'm from Brooklyn. [00:15:59] Speaker B: N. Listen, I was wondering why you. [00:16:01] Speaker E: Was asking me what high school I went to. [00:16:03] Speaker B: I was born here. I was born here. I was born in New York. I was born in Brooklyn. [00:16:09] Speaker D: Let me be Brooklyn, nigga. [00:16:11] Speaker B: I was born in Brooklyn, right? So when I turned about. [00:16:14] Speaker A: You look at East Face, bro. [00:16:15] Speaker B: When I turn. [00:16:19] Speaker D: Straight. [00:16:20] Speaker B: Yo, listen. When I turned about one, we moved to Watts. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:16:25] Speaker B: So we lived there for maybe like two years. And went back to Brooklyn. [00:16:29] Speaker A: And went back to Brooklyn. Okay. Cause I remember. I remember that me and Glass was talking about that shit. I was like, remember when Mano got mad at me? Cause I said he was a West coast nigga. He was like, nah, I'm from Brooklyn, nigga. That she was funny. [00:16:39] Speaker E: Have you seen all the, like, the TikToks and stuff with you looking over your shades? Have any eyewear brands? [00:16:44] Speaker B: I'm talking to some people. Yeah. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Oh, you gotta. Hey, when you get the. When you get the main old frames, let me know. Prescription. This ain't fashion shit. That's right east for you. Like, you've been coming out here. Like, we've been rocking forever. But I remember somebody told me a story where when you first came out here, you went to one of the neighborhoods and you was just hanging out at the park all day. And I was like, I, I. That was the first time I ever, like, heard of you. Like, like, not from music side, but from the other homies. Right, Right. And I was like, why the would he do that? Not like that, but I'm just saying, like, chilling, but I'm just saying. Do you remember that? Do you remember that day? Okay. Would you do that? Do you. Did you make that a, like a practice? Like, you was just like, I'm gonna come with the homies. It depend on, like, my time if. [00:17:31] Speaker B: I got time to go over there. [00:17:32] Speaker C: Like, it depends. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Cause I just always related you and Nip together because I didn't learn about y' all through my friends that did music. [00:17:39] Speaker C: Right? [00:17:40] Speaker A: So that's my. [00:17:42] Speaker E: I ain't gonna hold you. I didn't realize how locked in you was with the city. Like, I seen niggas I went to high school with at your last thing, I'm like, oh, n really fuck with Dave out here. [00:17:51] Speaker C: Fuck with LA hard. [00:17:52] Speaker A: You know that. Another thing from music, from a music perspective, Mayno, is I remember you did when you came. When you. I don't remember what the time period was when you came home, but when you came home and you first put out the High Hater, right? To me, that was like a brilliant. Like, it was just a brilliant song. It was one of the first songs that I remember going viral. But it wasn't corny, right? I don't know if that makes sense. Like, you know, like, you had, like, the dance songs that was going viral, but yours, like, you was saying some real N shit, but it fit with that. [00:18:28] Speaker B: It was, in a way, like, it was still able to get those ringtones. [00:18:31] Speaker A: This is the ringtone era. Was that something that you thought about beforehand or it just worked out that way? [00:18:36] Speaker B: Nah, it just came together. Like, you know how sometimes it's just magic, man. It's just the perfect beat with the perfect hook, okay. Sometimes. You know what I mean? And then with the marketing behind it, okay? Because, like, if it had a marketing behind it, that muscle, that building, that money, that, you know, making it a priority, then the, you know, record with no plan is not a record at all. So the fact that I was able to have the song that sounded like something and then have the building behind it, that's what made it. That's what made it work. [00:19:02] Speaker A: And my second question from that specific album, I Love all the above, is literally one of my playlists, one of my inspirational playlists that I got. [00:19:11] Speaker B: Do you regret it was like, number one out here? [00:19:14] Speaker A: I know, back then. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:15] Speaker A: Do you regret? Because I. I don't know if I heard. I may have heard through the grave that you didn't with the record. Like, do you regret that song? [00:19:21] Speaker B: Oh, that's. [00:19:22] Speaker A: I. That's a myth. [00:19:23] Speaker B: That's a myth. I felt some way about her haters. [00:19:26] Speaker A: You felt some way about hi Hater? [00:19:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Why? Cause I just was like, like, all the above. I love all the above. Like, this is pain. I'm talking about something like high Hater felt like, hi Hater's the reason why N was like, he can't rap. When I was like, I could really rap, but I was, like, dumbing it down to try to find me a hit record, you know what I'm saying? Which I tell niggas nowadays, don't even do that. But I was trying to find me something so I could get some. Some motion. You see what I'm saying? Like, I was, like, purposely trying to down grade whatever I. I thought I could do to. To find me a hit record, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, nah, it's reversed. [00:20:06] Speaker A: It's reversed. Okay. [00:20:07] Speaker B: But I appreciate it all, though. Don't. Don't get me wrong. I don't hate nothing that I ever done. [00:20:11] Speaker A: Okay, well, you know, that's the stigma. Like, artists put out songs and they don't like they hit record. I'm like, that's crazy to me. It comes off of records. Which ones? [00:20:20] Speaker D: Off the top of my head. Throw it in the bag. [00:20:24] Speaker A: You don't like throw it in the bag? [00:20:26] Speaker D: Nah. I felt like it was like when me and Dream did that record, I felt like Throw it in the Bag should have been more like a R and B joint and me putting a verse on that more than it should have been a rap record. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Feel like you should have been a preacher. [00:20:39] Speaker D: Yeah, that's how I felt. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Really? [00:20:41] Speaker D: Yeah. Fun Fact just pressured me into, like, putting it out. I think I will say I felt like Def Jam just put it out too. And then it just caught. Or they put the money behind whatever it is, and it went. And then there was nothing I could do about it. It was already. It's already lit out of here. [00:20:57] Speaker E: I have a theory. Fabulous. That soul tape is an album cosplaying as a mixtape. [00:21:04] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:21:05] Speaker E: Was that intentional, like, during the process that. [00:21:08] Speaker D: I think at that time when soul tapes came, mixtapes were going in that fashion of being like albums, you know what I'm saying? Mixtapes before, for me, before that were like just me freestyling over other people's beats. I came from the Clue era of mixtapes. So that era of mixtapes was completely different from the 2010 on mixtape. From that time, it started being original songs. You know, when the Drake, Kendrick J. Cole from that era, their mixtapes were really like albums, but they just called them mixtapes. Mixtapes before that were really you freestyling over other people's music. You might have a joint or two that you did, but it wasn't a whole tape of original music, in a sense, you know what I'm saying? Like, you. I did songs over other people's beats, like, you know what I'm saying? Even though, like a 50 mixtape, when at that time where 50 was building his mix, all of those were other people beats too. So that was how mixtapes were done, you know, pre 2010 and stuff like that. And then from then on. That's why soul tape is different from, like, my mixtapes before that. There's no competition and all of that type of stuff. [00:22:18] Speaker E: Okay, so I have a Lord knows question. [00:22:21] Speaker D: What's Lord knows your freestyle. [00:22:23] Speaker E: Lord knows. [00:22:23] Speaker D: Oh. Oh, you really are. All right, go ahead. [00:22:27] Speaker E: Okay. You said on Lord Knows, you gotta watch the picture that you painting with Your verses, we go out niggas mouth. I don't know about bitches purses, obviously. Lord knows is a Drake song. Drake said in his. I'm going through her. I'm going through her purse. I'm going in her purse. If she goes to the bathroom, go through her phone. Won't trust these hoes at all. Something like that. Yeah. [00:22:46] Speaker D: It wasn't really like a Drake diss. It was just a flip of, like, I was flipping that song. So it was my perspective of what he was saying. It was really never really like, I'm going at Drake for him saying that he going people first. As I was just saying that we, like, we don't do it. [00:23:03] Speaker B: Conspiracy theorist right here. [00:23:05] Speaker E: Oh, yeah. Did y' all see? [00:23:06] Speaker A: She know all the lyrics. I'm telling you, bro. She's a lyricist. She know all the battle raps. [00:23:11] Speaker D: That was a thing that was definitely surgical with that. [00:23:14] Speaker B: She was like, yeah, for real. [00:23:16] Speaker E: What did you. Did you ever get a chance because you did the mama freestyle in 2016? Did you ever get a chance because in the freestyle, you say, I talked to Chopped it up with Kobe two times. Did you get a chance to talk to him before he passed or, like, after the. The freestyle dropped? [00:23:32] Speaker D: I don't think after the freestyle dropped. I was in LA when that happened. I think because it was either Grammys or some kind of award show when it happened, but. Nah, not before. All of my things was before that. Like, even that song was kind of done in admiration of before it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I met him a few times or just came cross paths with him or even going to the game, you know? He say, what's up? My closest, I think, encounter was the Trade it all video we shot out here. And he pulled up to the set. I remember they was like, trying to get Kobe in the video, and they was trying to come over to me, yo, go ask Kobe to be in the video. I'm like, I ain't asking that to be in no video. So I told one of them. I said, Clue was like, I'll go ask him. And Clue went asking him, and he curved Clue. He was like, nah, I just came to show love that. Yeah. He just didn't want to be in the video, I guess. Yeah, he was just coming to show love in that sense. So it was still cool to me. [00:24:35] Speaker A: I was. [00:24:36] Speaker D: You know what I mean? He had to be in the video, you know what I mean? [00:24:39] Speaker A: That's crazy, Jim. When it came to. Because it made me think About Balling, what Mano said about the records, right? I know Ballin is like that. I think that's when that took you to a whole nother level as a solo artist. Like you were already doing your thing. But do you. Do you feel any way about that record? Like, do you get tired of performing it? Do you hate that people only want to hear that record? Or like, not only one, but I'm saying, like, do you feel it's time. [00:25:08] Speaker C: To feel like the gift of the curse? [00:25:10] Speaker A: Okay. [00:25:11] Speaker C: I realized I had to let that shit go, Stop chasing the success of Ballin' and just live life and keep doing music. And that's it. It was the time I was chasing it, chasing the success of Ballin. And it was killing me daily just trying to read this. It's just something about the law, that success or you think your mind goes through that you got to do better than what you did last time. Things like that. You're always trying to beat that level of success. Time went by, I realized how great of a thing I did. And it's something I achieved. And I don't have to achieve the same thing twice. You can still do just as good a life without it and continue to be who you are. So that was a good lesson for me and things like that. [00:25:52] Speaker A: I have a question about Ballin specifically. Cause I remember when I was young, I was younger at that time when that was all going on, but I remember Koch Records being like the place where people to me, in my mind, now that I know the music business at that time, I understand shit. But I thought artists can just go there and be independent and be free and put out whatever they want and all that kind of shit, right? Later on I found out how the music business worked. But as. Do you still believe in being fully independent as an artist, or do you still believe that the system has value? [00:26:25] Speaker C: It depends on what type of artist you are. I believe the system has values to certain artists, and I believe independent has a lot of value to certain artists. But if you want to be an independent artist, realize that the work is going to be ten times as harder than it is when you have a whole support system in the building behind you and you have to fill in all those gaps and all the things that the building does for your success. And that's one thing that a lot of these artists that have so much made success due to being with labels and things, and then they want to switch over into independent success without an actual plan and not knowing that they have to still have A bit of a machine so they can still push their success further and things like that. You probably get some burn just saying I'm independent. But it takes more than you just saying you independent. It takes a real team of pushing that music and that business for you to get the bag. So it depends on who the artist is. Some people are artists. Artists people artist driven. And they need that support. And then some people are entrepreneurs with their artistry, artistry. And then they can take the independent route because that's more suitable for them. And I was that person. I was more suitable for me to take the independent route because I'm an entrepreneur by heart and a hustler, you know what I mean? [00:27:31] Speaker A: I can see that. I know when we talked, you was here last time about it, but have you. Do you feel that she share the same sentiment now being fully. Yeah, hell yeah, I think. Is it harder for you though? Nah, because I already was set up to be indy. Like, I feel like coming in and doing the major run, it taught me like exactly how I want to move as far as just my own music. You know what I mean? But I think I only could have learned that being on the major. Yeah, that's how I feel too. Like going to do that and then do your own thing. [00:28:03] Speaker D: I don't think every artist needs that. Like, it's different types of artists, you know what I'm saying? And different type of audiences and communities they going for. I feel like independent kind of could connect you directly to your. I feel like certain artists, if you just got like a big R B, like they need certain looks and platforms for their music to be connected and accepted and stuff like that. If you're not an artist that needs, you know, every single, like, you know, you might not need every single platform. You just need your community and build your base there. You know what I'm saying? I feel like a lot of independent artists have showed that they having their own shows and tours, they having their own motion without having to be nominated for awards and all of that. They got their own, you know what I'm saying? So I don't think it's for every artist either anymore. I think before that was the lane you had to do. Before, independent was a real stable lane, but now it's opened up and everybody can do it. What's fit for them. [00:29:02] Speaker E: It's been rumored that love and hip hop is coming to an end. But Jim, the people that been there from the beginning remember, like. Like you was like the blueprint. Do you think that. That you Get. [00:29:13] Speaker C: I made this show. [00:29:14] Speaker E: That's what I'm saying. Like, the people that was there, you know, they know. Do you think that you set the. The standard for urban reality TV shows? [00:29:22] Speaker C: Me? [00:29:22] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:29:23] Speaker C: I created something that was taken into exploitation Lane. I didn't create it for that. When I. What I created, was it for exploitation? When I created it was for. I was a soul of the hard work that we was doing, and I was able to present an opportunity to Chrissy and Boss, and I wanted to compromise our dignity. We choose to leave the brand and stuff like that. Leave. Relinquish all power that we had because it wasn't suitable and it wasn't worth going back and forth with somebody about something that I created that they was trying to switch and change. So. But it was great. I mean, they made tons and tons and millions of dollars. I've seen a lot of people prosper from it. I've seen a lot of people burn from it. But it was definitely a hell of a business structure that they was able to feed so many families off and create so many jobs off of. So, you know, I'm happy to be able to create something that was able to do so much. [00:30:10] Speaker D: Wasn't it. Hold on. Wasn't it a. Another name first before loving hip hop that y' all was like, building on or something? [00:30:17] Speaker C: We was trying to do another name, and then love and hip hop fell in the park. [00:30:23] Speaker B: But it was just supposed to be you and Chrissy. [00:30:25] Speaker C: No, to show the. The show premise was about Chrissy being involved with an artist and what a lady being involved with an artist has to go through. And then that went from when we was building it, like, yo, do you have any friends that you can add to it that are in similar situations? And that's why they started adding different females that had. [00:30:47] Speaker D: That's why I remembered another name, because Emily involvement. [00:30:52] Speaker C: Emily is the one that created the name. [00:30:53] Speaker D: Oh. [00:30:54] Speaker C: After they had the means in the first place. It was the first name we was going with. I forgot what the other name was. And then she was like. Emily said love and hip hop. I was like, that's fire. And then. So, yeah, damn. [00:31:06] Speaker E: I don't think people know how involved that, like, you guys were with the early stages. [00:31:11] Speaker C: We created you not understanding you saying, keep saying evolved. There's no love and hip hop. If I didn't create it, I created. I'm the creator of it. I'm like, nobody hired me to come be a part. I created it. I created the synopsis, the premise. That's My show. [00:31:22] Speaker D: Wow. [00:31:23] Speaker C: My show. I said I walked away from it. The year I walked away from it, they had to give me everything I wanted. Executive producer, all the credits, everything. Everything. You see, Mona sky had the time I decided to walk away from it was the time I would have been Mona because it was my show. You heard. There's a whole nother backstory behind it, but I'm grateful to be a part of something and create something that so many people was able to prosper off of. I created something big. So I'm not. I mean, just. [00:31:48] Speaker D: I didn't know you was the loving hip hop og. [00:31:51] Speaker C: That's me, the real Google. [00:31:53] Speaker E: I'm not the only one that didn't know. [00:31:54] Speaker A: No, that's. That's game. [00:31:57] Speaker C: It was the real love. It was a. VH1 was trying to do a reality show with me for a few years. And I always said, nah. Because at that time, rappers was. Reality TV was like, nigga, you bugging out. [00:32:12] Speaker A: You. [00:32:12] Speaker C: You. You need some money. You broke something, you dig? So I had left it alone. [00:32:16] Speaker D: And reality TV was huge at the time. [00:32:18] Speaker C: It was. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Looking at it like you. [00:32:21] Speaker A: And your last active rappers. [00:32:23] Speaker D: I'm. Everybody was watching. Everybody was watching them. Shit. [00:32:27] Speaker C: Chrissy got a chance to do a reality show. She went to LA with a couple other people in the industry. It didn't go through. So when she came back, she was mad about it. And I was like, yo, I got these people in VH1 on my line. Every day we do a show about you dealing with me. I won't be on the show. It'll be about you. And I just play my part so the camera can see me. She was like, bet. I called the dude. His name was John. I forgot his last name. Yo, I want to do the show. He like, come to the office. I went to the office with Yandy. She was my manager at the time. And then Yandy had to go on tour with Missy Elliott because I wasn't touring at the time. I wasn't doing nothing. So she had a chance to make some money. So the next meeting I had, she sent Mona Scott with me in representation of her. Because Mona Scott is Yandy's og. So she's like, Mona's gonna go with you to the meeting as representation. [00:33:19] Speaker D: Crazy little. That's a crazy little. [00:33:23] Speaker C: You want to hear this? Nobody know like, you dig. So the whole love of hip hop is my show, period. Hands down. [00:33:30] Speaker D: Stay tuned. Of this story. She about to pop up, like, after this interview. No, I'm not saying she is. [00:33:40] Speaker C: Nothing to do with the show. [00:33:42] Speaker A: But. [00:33:42] Speaker C: So Yandy went away and Missy Yellow. We could call Missy Missy. Yandy was on the tour. Missy Elliot. Mono. Scott took the endy position to walk me into the meeting. She walked into me as management and left. That mean as an executive producer of my show. [00:33:56] Speaker A: Get the out here. [00:33:58] Speaker B: Wow. [00:34:00] Speaker A: Y' all didn't know this either, but. [00:34:02] Speaker D: This is news every day. [00:34:06] Speaker C: So we started the show first season. When I found out what was going on, this started the whole discomfort between me and Yandy and everybody because of all of that second season after lawyers and everything going through VH1 agreed to all of me and Chrissy's ownership, executive producer, everything laid out and shit was happening. It wasn't worth it for us at the time. [00:34:35] Speaker D: But the show did definitely spin from what you probably originally and then it turned once they saw it. Because also how everybody was watching real reality tv. They also was watching the mess. They want to see entertainment. So it's spent from just being like reality spent from just being like everyday thing to now we want to see people throwing drinks in people's faces. Right. [00:34:56] Speaker A: That's what. That's what you're talking about. [00:34:58] Speaker D: That it became turning into that. And that's what the. [00:35:00] Speaker C: Well, Chrissy threw the first punch on the show. You heard about, remember? I don't remember what the first punch was. Whatever that first punch was. After all the dysfunction, that's when everything shot went crazy. And that's when the things that Fab is talking about. This is the angle right here. We just gonna go dysfunction to the. To the highest level. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Right. But it was your IP though. [00:35:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:25] Speaker B: You walked in there. It was your 100 intellectual property. [00:35:28] Speaker C: 100. Wow. And I'm not going for no class action lawsuits. None of that type of God has given me so many gifts and have made me so much of a creative person that the things that I'm embarking on right now gonna be way eller than that thing that I gave them. [00:35:42] Speaker A: Wow. [00:35:43] Speaker E: Did they have your permission to sneak you in those scenes? [00:35:46] Speaker D: I was in scenes on it. [00:35:47] Speaker E: Yeah. It was a fashion show. And you like sitting there. They got you. They got you. [00:35:51] Speaker B: You didn't know. [00:35:52] Speaker E: I don't know. [00:35:52] Speaker D: They might have been just. [00:35:53] Speaker C: You don't know. Some footage is like public. [00:35:57] Speaker D: They could just. Yeah, they just use that like they. [00:35:59] Speaker C: Could bend seconds, blur the lines. [00:36:02] Speaker D: I wasn't really. [00:36:03] Speaker C: They was trying to get Fab a super bag. [00:36:05] Speaker D: They asked me to call them to. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Get a super bag. [00:36:07] Speaker C: Like we're paying whatever to get on the Show. [00:36:09] Speaker E: Well, I remember that was. It was like a part of dialogue that you don't with reality and stuff like that. [00:36:16] Speaker D: Trying to do at the time, too. I was, you know, very heavy in my career at the time, but they was asking me to be on it, but it just never was. [00:36:24] Speaker C: They had a nice one for one episode. [00:36:27] Speaker A: Hey, Jill, want the finder's teeth? [00:36:29] Speaker D: Can we get the number? [00:36:31] Speaker C: I don't know how many years it is now, but that's bad. [00:36:33] Speaker D: They used to send Emily at me. You'd be like, laying there in bed. She'd be like, yo, what you think about doing an episode? I'm like, bro, are you serious? Yeah. They start sending all kind of people at you, like, you know what I mean? They want to be on the show. [00:36:47] Speaker C: They anticipate. Remember, we live in a real. I'm doing the show now in real time with my success. And Fab is already super duper fab at the time, super platinum. So it's like the show was going in real time. The more pieces they could add to the show from the hip hop culture that's actually there. And these are the significant other. Like, we got it. They was trying to get everything going on. [00:37:11] Speaker D: They even started trying to go at me on the show like, they'll show Emily and be like, but where's Fab? [00:37:17] Speaker A: Oh, I remember that. [00:37:18] Speaker D: Some kind of photo shoot or something that they were doing and try to look like, I ain't show up to the photo shoot. [00:37:22] Speaker E: No, they was dirty Mackie. [00:37:23] Speaker D: I remember. [00:37:36] Speaker A: That. Wasn't dirty Maggie, what she just did. No, he is. That's not dirty macking. [00:37:40] Speaker D: Huh? [00:37:40] Speaker A: Her saying, no, he is. You didn't ask her that. She said, no, he is. That's dirty Mac. [00:37:45] Speaker E: Well, that's dirty macking that. You trying to put it back on me. [00:37:50] Speaker B: Dirty Mac, Dirty Mac is. [00:37:52] Speaker C: Is. Is. Is. [00:37:56] Speaker D: Talking hating somebody else. [00:37:59] Speaker A: Well, I don't do that. [00:38:08] Speaker E: He gonna be like. Is doing. Oh, I can't get with that. [00:38:11] Speaker D: But that ain't really. [00:38:16] Speaker E: I'll accept that. [00:38:17] Speaker A: I'll accept that. [00:38:19] Speaker C: I'm a hater. [00:38:20] Speaker A: I'm not a dirty macker. I'm a hater. [00:38:23] Speaker D: Let that be clear. [00:38:27] Speaker B: Hater. Not a dirty Mac. You heard? [00:38:32] Speaker A: Y' all been Dirty Mac over the difference in hating Dirty Mac. [00:38:34] Speaker E: Found out I already told y' all what happened. [00:38:36] Speaker C: Conversation all the time. [00:38:38] Speaker D: Hanging with Dirty Macca. Like, say they. They hang with you after that. [00:38:42] Speaker B: After they Dirty Mac, Dirty Mac on me got his. Anyway, that's what happens when you Dirty Mac. [00:38:49] Speaker E: What's the what's the most smut or like the worst smut that like a done put on your name to a girl. [00:38:54] Speaker B: I done heard all kinds of you with him. [00:38:58] Speaker C: It could get crazy. Cause get creative with this dirty Mac. Get hella creative with the dirty Mac and say some that I didn't even know. [00:39:09] Speaker D: Sometimes there's true ones like damn. When they're giving a suicide. But it lies. It's mostly lies. A lot of times when they put. [00:39:17] Speaker B: You sometimes specific that you ain't even never dealt with. [00:39:20] Speaker E: Oh, they told on you? [00:39:21] Speaker B: No, but I'm saying false bitches on you with. Yeah, you putting balls holes with me. [00:39:27] Speaker C: This crazy. [00:39:28] Speaker B: Oh, telling your whole allegations is crazy. Yeah, you putting bodies on me that don't even belong. [00:39:33] Speaker C: It's crazy. That's how people go to jail. [00:39:36] Speaker A: Okay, all right. [00:39:37] Speaker E: We got a rap in five minutes. But I got a lot of for fabulous. Well, you go. [00:39:41] Speaker C: So you want to finish it up? [00:39:42] Speaker A: We can leave. [00:39:42] Speaker E: No. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Let'S finish. [00:39:47] Speaker D: Turn me into a whole. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Get you a one on one. [00:39:50] Speaker D: Let's clap about it. [00:39:51] Speaker A: Let's clap about it. [00:39:54] Speaker E: I'm sorry, I've been. I've been like a groupie for a long time. I actually we going to get a. [00:39:58] Speaker D: One on one vibe right now. We here with us. [00:40:01] Speaker E: I used to work at Staples Center. We was at the BET Awards and I did some just clown. So I was a usher at the door that you that the talent walked. [00:40:09] Speaker B: In, worked your way up. [00:40:19] Speaker D: Got it. Yeah. I'm just waiting where the story goes. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Man. [00:40:25] Speaker D: Shit's crazy out there. [00:40:26] Speaker E: I saw you get out the car and then like obviously I'm supposed to be checking your credentials, but I didn't give a fuck. I'm like, it's fabulous. He supposed to be here, whatever. But I like hid behind a bush. So I don't know if you saw a usher at the thing and then you saw nobody there but you was walking up like, what the fuck, weirdo? And then I was like, hi, you're my favorite rapper. And you just said thank you. And you walked in. [00:40:45] Speaker D: Oh, man. [00:40:46] Speaker E: But yeah, and then behind the bush. [00:40:51] Speaker A: She sunk in that. [00:40:57] Speaker D: Gotta do the meme with Gina sinking into the. [00:41:03] Speaker E: Okay, I do want to know, is there a time frame on the album? [00:41:10] Speaker D: Not really. I'm just trying not to. I want to put out music, but I'm also just trying to get it where I want it to be. Especially since it's taking so much time. I don't want to get to the end and be rushing. But I'm I'm really almost there, to be honest. Put in a lot of work. It's been years of me just doing different things, and so I really want to put it out, but I want to just get over this last stage. But sometimes you just be overthinking shit, too, just trying to do the extras. And a lot of times, you got to just be Davies and put that shit out. [00:41:42] Speaker A: Drop that shit. [00:41:42] Speaker D: Drop the lab, too. [00:41:43] Speaker A: Dave east is good for that. [00:41:47] Speaker D: That's my inspiration. He dropping. I'm like, yo, I got this nigga Easton. Dropped six albums on me. [00:41:54] Speaker E: Do you ever see, like, when something is going on in pop culture and then on Twitter, they'll be like. Like, the Fab Be, like, bars and stuff. So they'll, like, have like, a whole thing of, like, how Fab will respond to something going on in pop culture? [00:42:08] Speaker D: No. [00:42:08] Speaker E: You've never seen those? [00:42:09] Speaker C: Nah. [00:42:10] Speaker D: On Twitter or TikTok on Twitter? Nah. I'm a little slow on Twitter now, though. I ain't gonna lie, so. I might not. I might have. At one point, I was heavy on Twitter, and then I slowed down. Instagram, of course, became a thing, and you kind of shift over there, and I thought, I ain't, you know. I know. Of course there's people on Twitter chopping it up and shit, but I felt like now every social media that comes, they got the, like, TikTok is the wave and shit. Now everybody's on TikTok. I ain't even on heavy on TikTok, but I always hear people talking about TikTok, so I felt like that was more than Twitter, But I never seen, like, anything new that's been going on on Twitter. I'm kind of lost on it. I ain't gonna lie. [00:42:50] Speaker E: I was just talking to Maya about her impact and influence with the jersey dresses. So obviously, it reminded me of you. You had the. Obviously the athlete jerseys that you had, but then you took it to another level with, like, the Willie Beam and the. [00:43:04] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, the movie joints, the movie. [00:43:06] Speaker E: Ones, the TV shows and stuff. Did you. When you was throwing on them jerseys, did you realize you were shaping the fashion in hip hop? [00:43:12] Speaker D: Yeah, I was just trying to do something different, for real. Like, you said people knew me for the jerseys, but I always. I said, like, what if we do, like, sports jerseys from the movies? You know what I'm saying? So Willie Beeman or the Drake Degrassi joint or what else? [00:43:28] Speaker E: I had the Bel Air. [00:43:29] Speaker D: Yeah, the Bel Air. Or the Jesus Shuttleworth from He Got Game, so it was just Basketball just having another little spin on. [00:43:37] Speaker A: So that wasn't a New York thing. That was sold to me as a New York thing. [00:43:40] Speaker D: That jersey that. [00:43:41] Speaker A: The jersey thing was from my homies. [00:43:43] Speaker D: The original jersey thing like way back or you mean the movie? [00:43:46] Speaker A: No, the original jersey niggas wearing jerseys. They sold that to me all over. No, it was ever. [00:43:50] Speaker D: Yeah, that was everywhere at that little time. Jersey in New York, warm. Yeah. [00:43:55] Speaker A: I think Fab just did it different. [00:43:57] Speaker D: Yeah, I just over stamped it. But like, yeah, everybody was wearing jerseys also. [00:44:03] Speaker A: There was a. There was also a thing where like it was like you and Hov, right, Doing the jersey thing. But then after he put out, I think it was change clothes or I don't remember what they're taking button up or something like that was. You already moved on at that point probably, or that kind of like. [00:44:21] Speaker D: I think people was kind of moved on period at that time. And he was just kind of making it a stable of. We on this now. Hov used to be that kind of guy, you know what I'm saying? So he was kind of. And it was what he was on. Hov seemed like he was on his businessman whole. So like he telling people to put on button ups. The button up wave hit for a little bit. [00:44:41] Speaker A: Did you get rid of your shit before that? Before that? [00:44:44] Speaker D: I mean, we put it up like we was. You know what I mean? You might have still wore something here and there. Even now I still wear a jersey here and there. But like it wasn't just in that time when it was hot, you was wearing a jersey every day. [00:44:55] Speaker A: Got it. [00:44:55] Speaker D: That shit was a uniform. [00:44:58] Speaker C: Football joint, baseball joint, basketball, hockey joint. [00:45:01] Speaker D: That was going to the club. That was during the day, chilling outside. It was everywhere you wanted to go. You throwing on a jersey, you might have went to a wedding with a jersey on at that time. [00:45:11] Speaker A: See, that's what I'm talking about. [00:45:12] Speaker C: It was. Let's talk. [00:45:16] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:45:16] Speaker C: Nah, jerseys was a heavy. [00:45:18] Speaker E: Before social media got so like popular. You was known for being the best dressed rapper in the game. Was that pressure for you? Like, was that even a factor? Did you care about that or anything? [00:45:27] Speaker D: Not really. Cause I never was really stamping that or saying that as my. I think people took a liking to certain things and that's when, you know, it started going around. But I never was like coming out, I was never like, you know, like some of the fashion guys that say, you know, they the. They the best dressed person in the game, like I never took that stamp on even as jerseys and all that. That wasn't really like a super. That was just some swaggy shit that we liked to wear. But it wasn't like I was high fashion. You know what I mean? Way I put it together is how I put it together. But I wasn't looking at myself like I'm a fashionista. Cause I'm wearing a jersey with a hat to match. You know what I'm saying? So people started just appreciating it and liking it. And you know what I mean? That just came with it. And of course, if somebody say they like the style, you know, say thanks and keep it pushing. [00:46:16] Speaker A: But basically, first and foremost, thank y' all for being here. It's an honor to have y' all here. I appreciate y'. All. We'd love to when y' all come back, you know, to the West Coast. [00:46:26] Speaker E: Please come back. [00:46:28] Speaker A: Appreciate y'. All. [00:46:29] Speaker D: Ih. [00:46:30] Speaker A: Let's rap about it. It's here as effective immediately.

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