Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Yo, it's effective immediately. I'm DJ Head.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: What up, Hip Hop Nation? It's your favorite homegirl, Gina Views.
[00:00:09] Speaker A: We got a return guest here, man. Our homie Reason is in the building.
[00:00:14] Speaker C: What's the deal?
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Reason? First five minutes, I just wanna make sure I break up with you publicly.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Oh, yes.
[00:00:20] Speaker C: Oh, yes, Please.
[00:00:20] Speaker A: Everywhere we go.
[00:00:22] Speaker C: Please.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Go ahead. Go ahead. Break up Daylight.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: I'm not even playing with you. I was talking to you.
[00:00:27] Speaker A: She said break up publicly.
[00:00:28] Speaker C: Publicly.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Y' all gotta break up with you publicly.
[00:00:29] Speaker C: What if I was gonna break up with.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: She got right to it. She got right to it.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: We just gotta lay it down.
Dude told me, like, y' all know you used to go to Reason.
And I'm like, what you talking about? He like, I saw the post.
[00:00:42] Speaker C: That's funny.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: So you didn't see the follow up?
You didn't see none of the music.
[00:00:45] Speaker C: And it's crazy. It was a rollout. It was 12 hours apart. It wasn't even like, N let it, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was into my third freestyle. N is still telling me, congratulations. Like, bro, I like that.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: It's a congrats.
[00:00:58] Speaker C: It was like, yeah. And then it's funny because it's funny. Cause one of my best friends, that he don't be on social, so his homies sent him the post or whatever. He just text me, nigga, you weird to do that to her in public. Like, damn, nigga. Like, yeah. Cause he cool with my girls. He like, n. You weird. Like, damn. N, like, if I did do it, N don't get at me like that.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: How you gonna pick the bitch?
[00:01:20] Speaker A: You my nigga.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:21] Speaker C: Like, what are we doing, bro? Yeah, but you know. Yeah, but yes. Nah, that was.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: It's over.
[00:01:27] Speaker C: It's over.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: I'm breaking up with you.
[00:01:28] Speaker C: Okay. All right, cool.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: That shit not gonna make it all.
[00:01:30] Speaker C: I'm taking Rollo.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: I remember taking it off when y' all fake went together. That shit was all on the blogs and shit, man.
[00:01:39] Speaker C: It was fun, though. What's crazy is that what we was about to do, but we just couldn't get it done in time. You know the little funny ass 90s pictures where, like, get on all four shit, get on my back and, like, do all the stupid shit?
That's what we was about to do. We was about to do that.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: We was supposed to get a fake pregnancy belly.
[00:01:54] Speaker C: Fake pregnancy.
That's what I'm saying. We barely did what we was talking about doing, so I'm so glad we Didn't. Cause look at how this shit.
[00:02:01] Speaker B: What we did was light, though.
[00:02:03] Speaker C: That's what I'm trying. That's what I'm saying. It's like, it was light.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Niggas didn't realize we posted a picture from the super bowl from last year.
[00:02:09] Speaker C: From the year before. We posted a picture from the super bowl the year we did it in, like, legitimate two minutes, like, we was shooting. And then I was like, oh, I'm about to get out of here. Let's do this real quick. And then it was just like, come lay down on the couch.
Grab the towel, Put it on. Act like you're doing, like. It was literally like that.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Like, all right, let me tell you something. N. Ask me what's up with Gina and reason.
[00:02:28] Speaker C: I'm like, what the fuck? I told you. I had niggas hit me like, you know, like, I'm gonna probably shoot at. But I don't. You know, I mean, I don't want it to. I'm like, oh.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: Trying to respect your.
[00:02:36] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm like, I appreciate it.
Good. Looking for that.
You are good.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: That's the bro.
[00:02:43] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:02:44] Speaker A: Literally, I was just over at. When I was doing the bigger picture, we was talking, and they was like, yeah, so, you know, you be with Gina everywhere. People ever think. I'm like, no, people be thinking that, but I'm like, bro. That's literally like, bro, Bro. That's not. This ain't.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: I think that's the thing when you.
[00:03:02] Speaker C: Say your favorite homegirl, like, that's really.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: That.
[00:03:04] Speaker C: That's really that.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: Like, people don't be knowing at all how much of a homie I am.
[00:03:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, I said, like, to y' all.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: Like, I was like, really? Like, the bro.
[00:03:12] Speaker C: That's my daughter.
[00:03:13] Speaker B: But this nigga made it worse that day.
[00:03:14] Speaker C: I know.
[00:03:15] Speaker B: It was at Netflix.
[00:03:16] Speaker C: He was doing. Yes. He was doing a lot.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Remember?
[00:03:18] Speaker C: He. I see the cut, the new color walk on the carpet together.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: I was on bullshit. I was on bullshit.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: You was definitely part of the party.
[00:03:26] Speaker C: They was telling us, congratulations on the carpet.
[00:03:28] Speaker A: I was on bullshit.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: Just a little. It didn't make it worse that we.
[00:03:30] Speaker C: Walked in and we walked in looking hella awkward and shit. Like, we. We walked in like two exes that try not to fuck with each other no more.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: Well, it's over. I don't want to be with you no more.
[00:03:44] Speaker A: You just.
Congratulations. You dropped. I love you again.
[00:03:47] Speaker C: Yes. Yes.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: Your first release, your first solo release since the separation on your own, like, completely, like, how do you feel about it?
As of right now, I feel great.
[00:04:00] Speaker C: It was a lot of work. Like, you don't realize. Well, I forgot how much work it is being an independent artist. You get what I'm saying? But I like it because it's like, I know what's going on, so I never have to doubt.
When is this gonna happen? When is this gonna happen? If we don't make timelines, I know why we didn't make timelines. And I get to just be creative and make decisions on the fly, you know what I mean? Even like this deluxe, I was talking to Kaiz, where we supposed to go next? He want to go solo. So I got in the studio, I cooked up 20 joints in a week, picked my favorite five. Putting out a deluxe. Like, just to be able to, like, put out music while I'm still emotionally connected to it. Like, I made all these songs in the last two to three weeks. They fire records, but I made them on the last two or three weeks.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: Gotcha.
[00:04:39] Speaker C: Yeah, it keeps me motivated to go to the studio, too. Cause I be feeling like I gotta keep having shit, you know?
[00:04:44] Speaker A: Why is it 10, though? On this project?
[00:04:48] Speaker C: It wasn't even on purpose. So I be listening to the dedications all the time. And so I'm talking in between them. So it's really only eight records, but I'm talking in between them how Wayne used to talk to N.
And I used to remember everything. Like, he had my favorite shows on espn, Sports Center, ESPN News, Partner interruption, quite frankly. But I used to remember that shit as a Wayne fan, word for word. So I was like, I think it'd be dope if I can have fans in three years, remember the shit that I'm saying. You know what I mean? I've already had fans literally send me messages copying my voice on the shit. Like, that shit is fired at me. Yeah, Reese, I remember.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: I remember hitting you.
I forgot what it was. It was one of the skits that you had. Did you say, I'm addicted to capping?
[00:05:30] Speaker C: Addicted to capping.
[00:05:31] Speaker A: And I FaceTimed. I'm like, this is the shit I need.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: This is the content, nigga. I need more of that.
[00:05:37] Speaker C: We are going to do a lot more of that. It's just, bro, I was.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: It was like Cappers Anonymous or something.
[00:05:41] Speaker C: I was tired, bro. Like, we was. I forgot how hard this shit is, bro.
Yeah, we got. We going to do a lot more of that.
Me and Chris, we have the wildest ideas, and then we just let n reel them back. Because sometimes it get just too Nah.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: That capper's a narrative, bro.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: That shit. And we got an extended version of that. We gotta put the extended version out. But we got like a. Like a version where I'm just rambling and I just keep saying. And it's fucking hilarious.
[00:06:06] Speaker A: I'm just addicted to capping.
[00:06:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm just addicted to capping. Cause that's really.
That's how artists be, bro. Artists really be like, they fall into this thing, and they just like, n. I'm here.
Like, yeah, a dollar to my name or a million dollars to my name. Whatever I need, I'm here, bro. That's just funny.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: That was one of my favorite parts of this whole process. And then also we went to the release party, and you did give props to TDE and the label and stuff like that. I thought that was big of you to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then also just seeing the amount of support you got from people. Cause I remember us having a conversation. I don't want to bring it up, but, like, where it's like, you do notice a shift, for sure.
[00:06:44] Speaker C: For sure.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: Of, like, people still fuck with you. People don't fuck with you. Based on these relationships, whatever the case may be, what's been the biggest lesson, I guess, from that for you?
[00:06:53] Speaker C: I think the biggest lesson from that has just been knowing what real appreciation is. So it's funny, like, even when I'm talking on I love you again, that's where a lot of the talking and conversation came from in the tape was because I found a new level of appreciation. Like, oh, these niggas really ain't fuck with me. Cause I don't got TD on me. Oh. But instead of focusing on that as, like, a negative, it's like, well, now you will be ignoring the people that actually do fuck with you. So I gained a way bigger appreciation for the people that fuck with me. You get what I'm saying? And for the ones that are on the fence, or I just talked to Talas about this on the phone. For the ones that's on the fence, or don't fuck with me no more. I'm just gonna get it back in blood. And what I mean by that is, I'm about to work my ass off until you gotta fuck with me. That's what it is. So I don't even feel away legitimately. Don't even take it personal. Don't even feel away. It's just like, I'mma get it back in blood. I'mma work so hard that you gonna have to fuck with Me. And when you do, I'm not even gonna act like these other niggas in the industry doing blood. Nah, but you didn't. Nah, it's love regardless. You get what I'm saying? But I'm gonna work my ass off and prove why you should have fucked with me then. And then, you know, let's do it now. You get what I'm saying? So, yeah.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: Do you have relationships with people that are still over there?
[00:08:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I got relationships. I got people that I still talk to. What's funny is my best relationship over there still is Moussa.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: Really?
[00:08:11] Speaker C: That's who I talk to, and that's my nigga. That's who I talk to the most.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: You understand the perplexity.
[00:08:16] Speaker C: I know, I know, I know.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Hella confused.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: Moussa is the one where all this started from, right?
[00:08:24] Speaker C: He's not. To make it clear, he's not the one it all started from. That's just the public situation. But.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: He finna shake the timeline with this one. So you still cool with that?
[00:08:33] Speaker C: But, yeah, nah, I'm still cool with Moussa. He actually gave me advice on how to do the deluxe and moving forward and whatnot. Just, like, shit that he learned from Dochi's rollout and whatnot. So we was just chopping it, and he was just like, yeah, the project is fire. Like, I love the reception. Da, da, da, da. And then we started talking through it, and he was like, yo, you know, you should save more shit for the post album. Like, we learned with Dolce. Like, you know, we dropped and we did, like, 11, but then we kept like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Momentum, momentum, momentum. And it grew. He was like, you know, people's attention span is short. And this is a lesson that I took. He was like, the attention span is short. When they see something dope, they want to go get the product right now. So you did a bunch of dope shit, but the product wasn't out. You know what I'm saying? Like, so he was like, still do that. But, like, whatever you do on the front end, double it on the back end. Yeah, but like, nah, Moosa. Like, we good. Like, that's what I was trying to tell people. Cause it's funny, even people close to me, like, it's people close to me that haven't forgiven them. But I tell people I have a different outlook. Cause that was. That's really, like. That was like my big brother for eight years. You get what I'm saying? Like, so it's almost like if this shit happened with a family member, you think I'm gonna be mad at my. Like, I'm hot, but I ain't gonna be mad at my family member for my whole life. You get hot, I'm hot, and you hot. You know what I'm saying? But like, once we get to a point where we talk it out and you know what I mean, and we can get through that, it's like, I can't just not give a fuck about Musa. That would be impossible.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: So there was a conversation, like, did y' all have to talk to mend y' all relationship?
[00:09:52] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, we had to. That wouldn't have. I wouldn't have just called and been like, I miss you. Absolutely not.
But we had. But we had to talk and chop it. And we talked and we chopped it up a couple of different times. And it was like a growing thing. Like, we talked and chopped it. And then before I went on tour, he hit me and was just like, you know, like, I know, you know, shit was rocky before this, but like, this your first tour. Like, appreciate that. Living that, basking that moment. So we had a conversation then, and it was just kind of like a building thing, you know what I mean? And then he had a personal. I don't know if he was want to put out there, but he had a personal accomplishment. And so I hit him about that, you know, congratulations. We chopped it. So it's just been a growing thing. And like, that's like, we good.
[00:10:26] Speaker A: That's dope.
[00:10:26] Speaker C: So, yeah, that's my best relationship. I still got relationships with other people, but, like, that's who I talk to the most at td.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: There's a lyric you say, they told me I wouldn't live on my own, but dying. We do that regardless.
[00:10:38] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: Did you just. On some, like, just being 100% transparent.
[00:10:43] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: When you were leaving, did you have any doubts for your career?
[00:10:47] Speaker C: For sure. For sure. But it's funny. Cause that line I wrote, that it was a metaphor for my career. I'm like, my career dying regardless. Not putting out no music. So what's the point of worried about can I live on my own? It's like, shit, I ain't gonna be able to do that if I. You get what I'm saying? Like, whether I stay or go, I got a lot of work to do. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, I'd rather be. Me and my brother always had this thing. It's like, I'd rather lose the game. With the ball in my hand. If I'm losing, I don't wanna lose the game while that n got the ball in his hand. Like, if I'm gonna lose the game, I'd rather lose the game with the ball in my hand. So that was really what drove the decision was like, shit. It's like, I'm not. Like, New Beginnings dropped New Beginnings, went crazy, and I sat, which wasn't even all. It was a lot of variables. We went through Covid. It was a bunch of shit. But I sat and I cooled off for a long time, and then we come back around to Porches, and Porches is really good. But all of that, I cooled off. You get what I'm saying? Like, New Beginnings is at, like, over 200 million streams. So, like, that's like, the perfect launching point to go, you know, it did, like, 14k first week, and this is all indie. Like, I didn't have no major behind me. It just went. You get what I'm saying? And so I cooled off for three years. And so it's hard to get people. That's why what Dot is doing right now is so amazing. Like, who the fuck gets hot again?
I don't know niggas that get hot again. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's hard to do that. And it's a select few of niggas, like, currency got hot again. It's a select few of niggas that do that. And so that was what it was. Just like, I dropped portraits. I'm like, I can't do another two or three years, and I'd rather just, you know, if I'm gonna lose the game, I'd rather lose with the ball of man.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: So congratulations.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: I like fleece.
[00:12:20] Speaker C: Thank you.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: I just like. I like.
I like you when you kind of, like, play with your voice a little bit. Like, you use it in a different way. And, like, I like that. It's like, different inflections. The other thing I wanted to ask you, because we gonna have you rap.
[00:12:34] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:12:35] Speaker A: But do you look at it like. Cause I've had mixed feelings about it, and I don't know which way. How you feel about it?
Like, you heavily engaged with your fan base to the point where you'll be like. You get on Instagram, be like, yo, if y' all want me to drop something tonight, I will.
And it's like, nigga, that's not how you roll out music. And then you'll literally do it.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: You want to get added to my.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Close friends, like, hey, if you want to meet, jump on this beat. Like, leave some comments. I'll jump on this beat right now.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: I need more n doing that. I need fab doing that.
[00:13:03] Speaker C: I'll be in the moment.
[00:13:05] Speaker A: So do you look at. Obviously, it's fan engagement and stuff like that. People who. Supporters, people who really, really fuck with you. But also, you know, people want what they want. And it could be you super serving, let's say 15. 1500 core people versus 15,000 people who don't know that you're doing this or don't know that something has dropped. I know it's working to a certain degree, but how do you. Like, where do you get that from? Like, how do you. You just. Hey, I'mma just. This how I'm feeling today. This is what I'm on. Or is it spur the moment?
[00:13:36] Speaker C: I think it is spurred a moment, but it's dilated. People worst come to worst. My people first. Like, how I look at it is like, my fans and my supporters and the people that fuck with me, they're the ones that's spending the money now. They're the ones that are streaming the music right now. I can't be worried about the niggas. That's not. And not be focused on the ones that's spending it right now. You get what I'm saying? And it's one of those things where it's like, bro, if you can get 1,500 people to spend $100 in a year, you made $150,000.
So it's like, a lot of times artists don't look at it like that. Simplified, you get what I'm saying? And to get somebody that's a fan of yours to spend $100 in an entire year is not difficult. It's not difficult. You get what I'm saying? That's two pieces of merch and a ticket. You get what I'm saying? And that's $100 in a year. You know what I mean? So it do be sporadic, though. And sometimes I do.
I do regret it sometimes. Cause I box myself in hoes that now I gotta work super hard. Like, I remember, I just recently, I was on Live, and it was a nigga that was playing a beat on Twitter, and I liked it. And then he was like. He was like, that was me playing a beat on Twitter. That's my record. I was like, I'm gonna give you a feature. Yeah, now I gotta do it. Like, you know what I'm saying?
So then I had to get off and write the record. You know what I mean? But I enjoy it, though, because it's like, these are all things that I always wanted my favorite artist to do.
[00:14:50] Speaker A: To do for you.
[00:14:50] Speaker C: And so that's how I literally treat. Even when I made New Beginnings, I made New Beginnings from the standpoint of what I'm a TDE fan.
What me as a TD fan wanna hear. Oh, Solo ain't been outside. Fuck it, let's do Flick it up. Oh, Q ain't been outside. Fuck it, let's do pop shit. Oh, we been asking for Zayn Jit to do a record. Fuck, let's do Extinct. Like, that's literally how I made that project. Was just like asking other the homies as TD fans, like, what do y' all wanna hear? And then I just went and did it.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: I just thought that was like, this thing is crazy.
[00:15:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll be doing.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: All right. I'm gonna give you a feature. Like this nigga hungry bubbles367 on Instagram.
[00:15:25] Speaker C: I'll be doing a lot.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: He's handing out features like, fuck it.
[00:15:27] Speaker C: If I feel like it. And then it be another nigga that deserve it. And I don't feel like rapping.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: One of the major things within, you know, the last year was the battle with Drake and Kendrick, and one of the issues that people had with Drake was the name dropping.
[00:15:43] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:15:43] Speaker B: So you got. You said.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: She gonna find the bars.
[00:15:48] Speaker C: You said Gina for that. Yeah.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: The greatest since Pete Davidson. I took the west, bitch.
[00:15:53] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's a fire bar, too.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: That's hard.
[00:15:56] Speaker C: That's hard.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: You can't say that.
[00:15:59] Speaker C: Why?
[00:16:00] Speaker A: Okay, you can.
[00:16:01] Speaker C: I don't even respect ye no more, bro. I'm gonna keep it a stunt.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: No, no, no. Okay.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: He sucking dick.
[00:16:07] Speaker C: That's crazy.
I have no problem with men that want to indulge in that.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: Okay, all right, well, tell us more, Keith.
[00:16:15] Speaker C: But I just, like, I don't.
Hey, I don't need no parts of the homophobia. You know what I mean? That type of way. Whatever. You get what I'm saying?
[00:16:28] Speaker B: Would you give Kanye a feature? Would you take a Kanye feature?
[00:16:31] Speaker C: Of course. I'm not stupid. I would definitely take a Kanye feature. But I don't treat my goats the way other people treat their goats. Like, I hold my goats accountable. So it's like, I don't respect ye right now because you not acting like my goat. So I still love your music. I still think that you, you know, arguably a top five rapper of all time. You get what I'm saying, like, I still feel that way, but I don't respect what you doing. Cause you not. Like, I don't give my goat the way other people just give their goats passes. They can do whatever they want. Like, no, nigga, being my goat. Come with a responsibility. You might not care about that responsibility. And that's fine. It come with responsibility, but it come with responsibility. If I fuck with you like that, like, nigga, I'm gonna hold you accountable. Like, that's what it is.
[00:17:07] Speaker B: That's why I broke up with Drake.
[00:17:08] Speaker C: You feel me? Like, yeah, like, you gotta hold him accountable.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: You out here doing stupid shit, okay?
You out here just doing anything.
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Cause people don't know that you really like Drake's. Like, when this beef was, like, happening, I cried, bro. I know I cried.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: I watched the party die.
[00:17:22] Speaker C: We talked.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: I mean, I watched the party die. Meet the grams, meet the rams, meet the grim.
[00:17:25] Speaker C: Cause before the beef, we was talking and you was like, I like, Doc, but, like, it's up.
It's up. But, yeah, you gotta hold your goats accountable. Like, I don't think it's cool to just let. Like, just. Cause I like your music. You could just say whatever, do whatever. Like, this nigga. Yeah, he's crazy. Yeah, yeah, he's crazy.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: I agree with you.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: So is it true that you was tweeting shit so you can get dropped?
[00:17:46] Speaker C: It was true, but I shouldn't have said that. I shouldn't have said that.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: Maybe you phrased it wrong.
[00:17:50] Speaker C: Nah, I phrased it the right way.
[00:17:52] Speaker B: Oh, that's. You like, no, that's definitely what I was doing.
[00:17:54] Speaker C: That's what I was doing. It's just some shit that people don't need to know. You get what I'm saying? And I learned that lesson. I take my L's on the chin.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Like, we holding you accountable.
[00:18:01] Speaker C: That's why I said I'm a very accountable nigga. I shouldn't have said it. It's funny. Cause I said it because I wanted fans that remembered me for that to understand what I was going through as a person.
Not understanding that. They didn't give a fuck what I was going through as a person. And it's like, n. Why would you get what I'm saying? But I was in a space where I was. You know, you start calculating finances and shit, I'm like, bro, I'm not gonna be able to eat in, like, five or six months. And I don't know how long this is gonna take. And it's dragging. Not because they personally doing It. Because this is how the music business goes. You get what I'm saying? And it was just one of them things where I'm like, I'm not gonna have this opportunity to speed this process up. And if I don't speed this process up, like, I'm a fuck around and be homeless. Like, I gotta figure this out. You know what I mean? And I think that when we talking about the beef, people forget that people are like, real, actual people. You know what I mean? And that's why I was very specific, even with what I tweeted. I didn't tweet nothing about Drake and his raps. I just tweeted about the beat. Because I fuck with Wonder and all of them anyway. So I'm like, shout out to Wonda. I fuck with all of them anyway. So I'm like, this beat is hard. That's all I tweeted was just about the beat. I didn't want to tweet about. I didn't want to be like, drake kidnapped this n. That's crazy.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:05] Speaker C: Yeah. But I just tweeted about the beat, left it up for like, 10 minutes, and then deleted it.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: Well, we was all having fun in the beginning. I feel like.
[00:19:12] Speaker C: Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. And everything was good. Shit was viral as hell. You get what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? And I knew. I'm like, oh, I could breathe and it go viral. So, like, if there's any moment for me to, like, speed this process up, that's what it is. But it's one of those things that should have been left unsaid. And I acknowledge, like, when I make mistakes, I'm like, I shouldn't have said that. You know what I mean? And it's funny. Cause when I walked out of that interview, I knew that that was a thing. And I was gonna hit Kev and tell him to take it out. And then the interview just dropped. I was like, oh, shit.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: No, Kev was definitely dropp for sure.
[00:19:38] Speaker C: For sure. And we talked about it like, yo, let's talk about when to drop all of this. So I'm like, oh, we got time. Da da da in la. I'm like, oh, it's out.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: He said, I got one.
[00:19:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Oh, God.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: One more messy question.
How did you feel about the west coast dick licking bar? When Joey Badass said, it's too much.
[00:19:55] Speaker C: West coast dick licking, I was torn because, A, I know it's a Jay Z bar, and I know how he meant it. But B, also, I'm Biased. I'm homies with Joey, like, and Joey gave me a feature when he didn't have to. So I think I said this on the freestyle that I did. I said it. I said, joey the homie. So I'm not dissing. I'm with the truth. Not gimmicks. But let any of them other East Coast n say something. I'm with whatever, whatever with any of them other east coast niggas. But for Joey, I'm just torn on some biased shit. I think that he said it, so you gotta stand on it. So anybody else that wanna get at him, he gotta stand on that. You get what I'm saying? But it's not for me. Cause I would feel like a clown for a nigga that helped me out at a certain part of my career for me to now try to take advantage of the moment. Like, that's. That's what it's like.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: If you get it off again.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: Yeah, what you. What you gonna like?
[00:20:44] Speaker A: The same type of.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: What you gonna do if he say your name?
[00:20:47] Speaker C: If he say my name, we can go. But I'm not. I'm not going. You get what I'm saying? Like, I wouldn't be the person to.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: So if he say your name.
[00:20:53] Speaker C: If he said my name, we can go. Like. Because at that point, it's like, now it's.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: Remember you said this.
[00:20:58] Speaker C: No, that's fine. That's fine. I've been waiting. I got.
I've written diss records.
I've written diss records for rappers. Like, I have fun doing that shit. I'm mad that I can't put them out. I be on that type of shit, I'd be burning a hole in my pocket.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: Who you wrote a record for?
[00:21:14] Speaker C: Like, I wrote a diss record when me and Logic was going back and forth. But that was just. I was gonna look like a clown going back and forth with Logic.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: You wrote a diss track, for example.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: Logic is doing rage rap now.
[00:21:23] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. But I knew it would have made me look like a clown if I dropped it. Then he said, I'm the reason and you just the logic, nigga.
But nah, like, basically, I had a song where I said, you funny. I had a song where I said something about logic. So it's my fault. I had a song where I said something about logic.
I'm not a sensitive nigga. So I didn't take it as a diss, but he took it as a diss. And so then he did a interview with Rory and ma.
And he basically was, like, belittling me on the interview. But I took that pause on the chin because I'm like, you know what? I said something about him first. So let me just reach out to him as a man and just be like, yo, like, let's just chop it. You get what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to do that. You get what I'm saying? So let's just chop it. And then he ignored the dm, saw it, ignored it, and then went on the live and did the same shit again.
So now I'm like, okay, it's up.
But then when I like, so. But I wasn't gonna write the diss. Cause I'm like, almost, like, fighting the nigga that you give swirlies to. It's like. You get what I'm saying? But I was just happened to be in a studio session.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: He's still dissing him right now.
[00:22:28] Speaker C: I don't care.
I was in a studio session with Rory, and we were joking about it, and he was like, write a diss and take 15 minutes. Write a diss. I just want to see what it sound like. So we wrote it on some. Well, not we, but I wrote it on some fun shit. Just like, testing my pen. You get what I'm saying? And shit like that. But I don't take this how everybody else take this shit. I don't like. This is entertainment.
[00:22:49] Speaker A: It's rap.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. It's rap.
[00:22:50] Speaker C: You know what I'm saying? So for me, it's like, that's not even me saying this right now. It's like, there's sensitive logic fans that's gonna feel away. But, like, I just, like. It's not that. It's not that deep to me, bro. It's rap, bro. And that's the part that a lot of people don't even. This beef is, like, not fun no more. Because it was fun when it was rapping. We could joke about it. Now N is really, like, mad. Yeah.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Trashing out.
[00:23:12] Speaker C: It's like, I'm cool, bro. You. Y' all making this shit.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: Niggas saying, fuck head.
Niggas going in on me in head for 30 minutes.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: Really, like, think about that. It's a stranger that don't know y' all that really don't like you over a rap beef. That's crazy.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: Like, to me, it's on par for the time.
[00:23:30] Speaker C: It is. It is. It's on par for the time. So we don't like people when they say a food that they like. Like when vegans make burgers out of shit, that ain't burgers. Niggas mad at them.
Are you doing that? It's like, why are you on my page?
So it's like.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: That was my whole thing with the shit. I done said it a million times. I'll say it again. This shit's supposed to just be fun.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: It's just supposed to be fun.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: It's not supposed to be so serious and, like, real beef and all that.
[00:23:54] Speaker C: We supposed to be able to be in the group chat and joke and da, da, da. And then both people like we were. Like we were. And then both artists drop albums, and then we just go on about the music. And now it's to a point to where, like, you can't say nothing.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: Well, grab them cards before you wrap.
[00:24:11] Speaker C: Okay. You chose these, too, so I' Yeah, I did.
[00:24:13] Speaker B: So wait, before you flip them over. Yeah, before you flip them over there, I want to say thank you because you played the whole fashions game on whole fashions before it was official for the card game.
[00:24:23] Speaker C: And congratulations to black entrepreneur, businesswoman.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: You know, nothing too crazy. Remember, it was on popsicle sticks.
[00:24:29] Speaker C: I do.
[00:24:32] Speaker B: Well, go ahead and read them for me.
You don't have to answer. Or do all of them.
[00:24:36] Speaker C: Have you ever been in a poly relationship?
Halfway. Like, I was cheating and she wasn't, so.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Okay. Touche. That's gonna look good for the clip. You can go on to the next one.
[00:24:48] Speaker C: Moan out loud. That's crazy.
Hey, I'm getting this game. Yo, this is funny, as I'm already sold on this.
Your friend's about to die, and the only way for them to survive is if your wife, husband performs oral sex on them in front of you.
That's crazy. What friend?
[00:25:17] Speaker A: Oh, it matters which home.
[00:25:18] Speaker C: It matters. It matters. Damn. I ain't let my brother die for nothing.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: So your brother's safe?
[00:25:23] Speaker C: You would have to be.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: What about Chris over here? You might not get them videos.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Hey, shit, get real. When he got. Look at nigga's face, like. Yeah, you out of here, champ.
[00:25:36] Speaker C: I don't. I don't know. You know? Yeah, I'm gonna keep this camera.
[00:25:39] Speaker B: Long live Chris.
[00:25:40] Speaker C: Yeah, long live Chris for sure. That's crazy.
[00:25:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna make sure moms are straight.
[00:25:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm. I'm. I'm gonna take care of your people.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: Give me.
[00:25:51] Speaker C: Give me the camera.
Give me the camera.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: Hard drive. Before you get up out of here with a hard drive, that's Up. That's up.
[00:25:59] Speaker C: That's crazy, though. It depends on the friend. It's only like. So only like two friends. I'd be okay with that. With.
[00:26:04] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:04] Speaker C: One of them is my brother.
[00:26:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that's not a friend. It's a brother.
[00:26:07] Speaker C: That's a friend too. Some. Some be brothers and not friends. All right, that's fair. I know that don't get along.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: This just rap regularly. He just talk.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
Okay. So last thing is because I want you to rap Jeremy Hecht, my dog, Jeremy Hecht. I guess we're gonna do this thing where he thinks that he can outright me not rap outrite you.
[00:26:33] Speaker C: Okay. Cause there's a difference.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: He thinks that he could write a better rap than me.
[00:26:37] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: I told him he's sadly mistaken. Okay, so we're both going to write bars and then have someone else rap the bars.
[00:26:45] Speaker C: Okay. Okay, gotcha.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: Are you down to rap?
[00:26:48] Speaker C: I'm actually with that. I'm actually with that.
[00:26:50] Speaker B: I think it should be him and Kaz.
[00:26:51] Speaker C: Yeah, that's hard. We could do that. That's fire.
[00:26:53] Speaker B: It's like y' all picking your fighters, right?
[00:26:55] Speaker C: But you all can't tell the public who's right, who shit that way.
That way people are voting genuinely. Cuz it might be people that with you that if they know reason is rapping. You get what I'm saying?
[00:27:05] Speaker A: I'm with that.
[00:27:05] Speaker C: And so you got to let us both just rap it and then the public pick that way. You know what I'm saying? That way, you know it ain't biased.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: I like that.
[00:27:12] Speaker C: Cuz Jeremy gonna lose because he white. Man ain't pick.
Yeah, come on, man. Exactly, bro.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: Ain't pick some seasoning on that. You know what I'm saying?
[00:27:21] Speaker C: It changes the way you. You look at it. Like if I know Jeremy wrote it, it's like, ah, that sound kind of white.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Jeremy just.
He just dropped some cool shit.
[00:27:28] Speaker C: Nah, he got. I'm actually surprised. I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm keep it a stack.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: Cause, you know, I mean, Jeremy get a feature.
[00:27:33] Speaker C: I think Jeremy. No, he can't get a feature. But I think.
I think.
I think.
I think Jeremy might. Might be able to get you. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because you don't be caring about the raps like that. Like, he really. He really care about the raps, care about the lyrics.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:49] Speaker C: And head gonna be like, man, what beat we on? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, is it a slap? Yeah. So I'm like, If you don't know. And I would like to be proven wrong if I had to guess right now. Like, place a bet.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: Like your money on Toronto.
[00:28:02] Speaker C: My money on Toronto.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: And that's where niggas fucked up last time. See, Jeremy, that's where niggas fucked up last year.
[00:28:07] Speaker A: Jeremy is from Winnipeg.
[00:28:08] Speaker C: I was gonna say my money on Toronto. And it's gonna.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: Jeremy's from Winnipeg, not Toronto.
[00:28:12] Speaker B: Is it still Canada?
[00:28:13] Speaker A: It's Canada.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: Same thing.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: He's Canadian.
[00:28:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
[00:28:16] Speaker A: So you think Jeremy could outpin me right now?
[00:28:18] Speaker C: I think he can if I had to take a bet and place a bet right now because how much he cares about that shit. Like, it would be like, I would place a bet on Gina. I would place a bet on Gina. Cause she cares too much. She cares.
[00:28:28] Speaker B: I fuck you up.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: What is this?
[00:28:31] Speaker B: God, fuck you up.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: What is this?
[00:28:34] Speaker B: Cause I'm a cheat.
[00:28:36] Speaker C: Gina gonna have 19 different battle rap bars.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: She got DNA right there.
[00:28:40] Speaker C: She done. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, Gina gonna have a whole show.
[00:28:43] Speaker B: I cheated before, remember? I had you write some shit.
[00:28:45] Speaker C: You had me write some shit? Niggas in the comments like, damn, Gina, you going crazy.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: That's some bullshit.
[00:28:53] Speaker C: Gina so pussy. She gonna tell him.
[00:28:55] Speaker B: I wr.
[00:28:56] Speaker C: I'm like, gina, stand on your flowers.
[00:28:58] Speaker B: I get it.
[00:28:58] Speaker C: She couldn't even do it.
[00:28:59] Speaker A: But I couldn't even hold it.
[00:29:00] Speaker C: You really from the hip hop culture?
She couldn't even take ghost writing, Instagram rumors. She couldn't even take it. She was like, ah, it's too hot. It ain't mine. It's hot.
[00:29:14] Speaker B: Well, it's time. I think it's time to turn the beat on.
[00:29:17] Speaker C: All right, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Hold on.
[00:29:20] Speaker A: Let's pull it up real quick. Yeah, let's get to it. We got reason in the building.
He's going to rap, which more people.
[00:29:28] Speaker C: Should do on the show. But I know they be scared. People don't get it.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: People don't like to rap. You know what I'm saying?
[00:29:33] Speaker B: They be scared.
[00:29:33] Speaker C: I understand it, though.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: I'm not you punk ass niggas.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: Unfortunately, I do. It's like the topic.
[00:29:37] Speaker A: Why don't people want to rap?
[00:29:39] Speaker C: Because, bro. Cause a lot of the artists are not actual rappers now. You get what I'm saying? So they really genuinely just like music artists. That's the best way I can kind of describe it, unfortunately. So I get it. But I do think more people should do it, though.
[00:29:53] Speaker A: Me too.
[00:29:54] Speaker C: Yeah, like show somebody you can rap. The person that don't know your music, show them you can rap. They might want to go, you know what I mean? Tap in and do it.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: All right, we got the beat pulled up.
I chose or no, Gina Views chose this beat.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: I didn't choose nothing.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: I'm fucking. Well, you want to take credit for everything else?
[00:30:10] Speaker C: She told me what type of beat to rap on.
[00:30:12] Speaker A: Oh, she did?
[00:30:12] Speaker C: She did. She did. She told me what type of shit.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: Oh, shit.
[00:30:15] Speaker C: The bag to, like, kind of be in or whatever.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: Okay.
All right, well, let's get it going. This is reason, and it's effective immediately.
[00:30:22] Speaker C: Yes, yes.