Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: What's up, y'? All?
Hi.
[00:00:08] Speaker B: What's up, y'?
[00:00:09] Speaker A: All?
[00:00:10] Speaker B: Y' all like my vegan leather I got going on?
They got me wearing this.
[00:00:14] Speaker C: Y' all should have seen what he had on.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah, they told me. Gina told me to change, so I was like, yeah, I'm dressed like Ty today.
My bad. We good.
All right.
[00:00:26] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:00:27] Speaker B: All right, before we. You got anything you want to say to the.
[00:00:30] Speaker C: Hi, y'.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: All.
[00:00:31] Speaker C: Thank you for coming.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: She be shy and. Hi, y'.
[00:00:34] Speaker C: All.
Hi, y'.
[00:00:36] Speaker A: All.
[00:00:36] Speaker C: Thank you for.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: Anyway, My name is DJ Heads. Gina Views. We have a show here, SiriusXM, called Effective Immediately. Make sure you check Sway is Extra.
[00:00:46] Speaker C: And I'm mad that I can see Sway.
[00:00:47] Speaker B: Sway is Extra.
We have a show on called Effective immediately here on SiriusXM, Hip Hop Nation. So make sure y' all check that out. Also, make sure you subscribe to our YouTube because academics said we need more subscribers.
So anyway.
Exactly, exactly. Long story short, thank y' all for being here. We appreciate you. Before I bring the homie out, we did. J1 told me to say this again, just so y' all know, like, please don't record. Like, we're gonna be playing unreleased music.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: And.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: And you know Ty could fight, so you know what I'm saying, we all stay. They do have white people in the back that will escort you out of here, so appreciate y'.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: All.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: All right, are we ready?
Are we ready, Jay?
Are we good? We also recording on the radio, too, so I need y' all participation. Like, when I go like this, just act like y' all with us and make noise and stuff.
I think we. We about ready.
All right, here we go.
[00:01:49] Speaker A: You good?
[00:01:53] Speaker B: All right, well, without further ado, welcome to The Pandora playback SiriusXM. Y' all make some noise for my brother, Ty. Dollar Sign.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Yep, yep.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: Ty is here, y'.
[00:02:15] Speaker A: All.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: Show some love.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: I'm a fan of y' all show, man. Y' all been growing up.
[00:02:21] Speaker C: Thank.
[00:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll be cracking up.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Be kind of funny a little bit.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: You think Kind of funny?
[00:02:27] Speaker C: You think Dinosaurs was in the Bible?
[00:02:31] Speaker A: I ain't never seen that part.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: Yeah, man, Ty, man, thank you for being here, bro. You know what I'm saying? I know you a busy man. You got hella going on.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: And I appreciate y' all for having me and all y' all being here as well. Yeah.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: And we are here to celebrate because Ty is releasing a new album. I don't know if y' all heard or if y' all took out. Got in the group chat, it's an album called Tycoon, and we are here to celebrate. And I want to hear some. But before that, you know, how's Ty doing? You know what I'm saying?
[00:03:00] Speaker A: I'm doing amazing. How you doing?
[00:03:02] Speaker B: I'm good.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: How's everybody doing out there?
I've been just working on the album, getting back fit, eating right.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: Getting my life together.
My daughter just graduated from csun.
[00:03:19] Speaker C: Oh.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: With honors.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: With honors.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: And now she about to go to Pepperdine for her masters. So I'm, you know, I'm.
[00:03:30] Speaker C: Congratulations.
[00:03:31] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's cool about that.
[00:03:33] Speaker A: I'm feeling good about that.
My label, Easy Money Records, we popping shout out my brother, Sean Baron, in the. In the building. That's my partner.
He actually signed me to Atlantic in. In 2012, and then now we made a label together and we signed Leon Thomas, like, two years ago. Oh, and now Leon Thomas won best new artist last night at the BET Awards.
[00:03:59] Speaker B: Talk about it.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: His album is going crazy. Make sure you go get it. It's called Hill, the sequel to Mutt. If you haven't heard it, go check it out. And we about to drop Tycoon next.
[00:04:11] Speaker B: Yeah, that's crazy, bro. That's a lot, you know. So you got a lot.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: A lot. Yeah. Also got a champagne.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:19] Speaker C: You're having an amazing year.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. We going up. We going to keep on going.
[00:04:24] Speaker C: You brought us some champagne.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: I definitely got some champagne in the.
[00:04:28] Speaker B: Gina. Gina's a lush. She like to, you know, sip.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: Yeah. It's called Le Bon, which means good money in French. My label is Easy Money. It's all about the money. It's T$sign and, bro.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Well, congrats on all of that. One thing.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: One more thing.
[00:04:43] Speaker B: Oh, go ahead.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: I've been working on the documentary, like, the last two years, and I'm done with that.
The end of this week, I'm going to New York and I'm premiering it at the Tribeca Film Festival. It's called.
It's called Still Free tc, which is like showing my life from the beginning till now.
And in that, it shows my brother, because that was, like, who I started with, of course, doing music, and then he ended up going to prison for a life sentence for a murder that he didn't even do.
In it, it will show that the witness was coerced. At the end, she said she didn't see this, and they made her say it, and they still haven't done nothing about it. So we're fighting that, and it Shows that whole story. It's like in my life, it's like what you guys see is these highs, right? But there's also that shadow, you know, that dark cloud that's going on over my head. So you get to see the whole thing, finally.
[00:05:45] Speaker C: Congratulations. And that's. That's perfect timing Because Free TC, the album turns 10 this year.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: Yeah. That's crazy. It's been 10 years.
[00:05:54] Speaker C: Been 10 years.
[00:05:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out to everybody that's been in.
Been with us from the beginning. And the new ones when.
[00:06:01] Speaker B: When you. Okay, well, I want to get into Tycoon, but I wanted. She just brought that up. It does turn 10 years. As far as free TC, what's been the journey like, musically from free TC to tycoon for you? Like, musically, Musically, because concepts has been there, but musically, like, what have you. How have you applied what you learned over the years into this?
[00:06:21] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it just. Music changes over time. So the music that was happening back then is different from now, but at the same time, there are those songs that stick and that are classics. So on this album, I tried to make it to where it's like every song, it's like, no skips. You see some people. No, no disrespect, but you see some people that put out 30 songs, 25 songs, all this crazy, and you only like three. This one is like 15 songs, all bangers, back to back to back. Yeah. Different styles. It don't sound the same on every single song.
The words are right, the melodies are right. The music is crazy. So why. I'm proud of it. Why Tycoon? Because you heard everything I got going on. You know, I'm at the top of my game.
And that's why the album's Tycoon.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: Before we play some. Oh, go ahead.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Sorry.
[00:07:14] Speaker C: I'm ready to hear it.
[00:07:14] Speaker A: Okay. Come on.
[00:07:16] Speaker B: I know we're gonna play a few. A few of them.
What's the first one we're gonna play?
[00:07:21] Speaker A: I only get four, right? And I'm not even that type of, like. I like to play them.
[00:07:25] Speaker B: I know. Just transparency. Ty, want to play the whole.
[00:07:29] Speaker A: But.
[00:07:32] Speaker B: But we gotta honor. We gotta honor the platform. We gotta honor the platform.
[00:07:35] Speaker C: You said life is pretty hard. I feel like I've been through it all.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Life hits pretty hard.
[00:07:39] Speaker C: Life hits pretty hard. What you gonna do with the scars?
[00:07:42] Speaker A: Yeah. You can't hide them, so you might as well keep your head up. You know what I'm saying? Keep on going, Keep on pushing.
Whatever you want to happen is going to happen. The only time it's going to stop for you is when you stop.
Yeah.
[00:07:55] Speaker C: What do you do with the floss?
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Show them proud. Yeah.
[00:08:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: Stand tall. Have what?
[00:08:02] Speaker B: What do you think that that's. I mean, obviously that's not easy, like. So for people that. That are fans of yours or people that's listening, what's some advice you can give on how to do that? Because a lot of people don't know how to show them proudly.
[00:08:14] Speaker C: Especially in the age of social media where everybody perfect.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: Everybody perfect.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
In dollar sign world, there's no such thing as try.
So you just gotta do it.
And that's all I can say. Just do it.
[00:08:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
As long as you wait, you gonna keep on waiting.
[00:08:33] Speaker B: As far as, like, this album, I heard maybe three versions of it at the studio. Like, three. Three different times.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: You exaggerate.
[00:08:42] Speaker C: He think he better than y'.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: All.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Two. Two. Two different album. Two different albums. I heard it twice. Two different times. Right. Well, one full length. But how many versions of an album do you create before you, like, satisfied? Because a lot of people get demoitis. A lot of people keep creating up until they. Until we get it on the. On the streaming.
[00:09:01] Speaker A: Like, I work up until the day that it comes out.
When I first started 10 years ago with a free TC, it was CDs. So you had to, like, turn it in way earlier.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: That's what you turn it in now with streaming.
You can upload it right then. Yeah. You know, so I'm just working until then.
Like I said, music changes, the sounds change, lingo changes. So I'll just be trying to stay right up on it until the day.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: Is there ever a point where you are ready for people to hear it? Because, like, I've seen you work. Like you.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: I was ready for people to hear it the first time you heard it.
[00:09:41] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: But now I got everything together. All the stars align. Yeah. So it's time for sure.
[00:09:48] Speaker B: Let's play the next one.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:09:53] Speaker C: I mean, I'll be wishing that, too.
Like, sometimes.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: That's right. That's right.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: Sometimes I'll be wishing that too.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: I mean, you just gotta be. You just gotta be honest.
[00:10:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: You know, there was that period of my life where I was doing a lot of capping to the women, but I learned you don't gotta do that. And they respect you way more. Yeah.
[00:10:12] Speaker C: Nah, Yvette, I tell these hoes the truth.
[00:10:14] Speaker A: You feel me?
[00:10:17] Speaker C: During your writing process, are you pulling from your own personal experiences or experiences.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: That you're familiar with that one is my own personal experience. But I've been saying to a lot of my artist homies lately, they try to push this thing on us of like, yo, you got to talk about your exact life if you're not. And then that's why you get this, like, this thing in hip hop where people crash out and do all this dumb for likes and it's just dumb. Like, I've seen this one Black Mirror episode recently.
This is how I think I seen this one Black Mirror episode where it was this guy that was working and I think like a steel mill or some like that, and he had his wife and they did some where they put a chip and if you drive outside of the area, your shit's your TV cuts off type. Oh, so you could like, pay them to like, upgrade your system so you could drive further and they could go to their place where they had their like, anniversary or whatever.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: And then he starts running out of money.
One of the guys at the. At the job is watching this online of where people could go to a stream and you could just do dumbass in order to get money.
Like, let me put one of those electrical things on my tongue and zap myself and they'll. They'll all pay me. Let me electrocute my dick or do something crazy, right? Yeah. Just for more. And that's like hip hop. That's. You feel me? So I'm not with.
[00:11:55] Speaker C: So what type of night.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: So I'm saying people shouldn't, like, always have to, like, talk. You should be able to like, back when Eminem was the like, and he could just say whatever. Just a crazy story and make you appreciate art. Like, let's get back to that, you know?
[00:12:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
So what type of night influenced.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: I wish just, you know, trying to like, have somebody that you love, which I can. And still I love other girls. I just love women. I love pussy. Like, I get inspiration from dealing with other women.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: I'mma use that.
I'm using that. I need inspiration.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: And that's just me. And I gotta say it.
[00:12:37] Speaker B: I feel that though.
[00:12:39] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: I need to be inspired. Gina.
Damn, that's good.
That's so good.
[00:12:49] Speaker C: I like what he said. I don't like what you said.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: What the.
I said I need to be inspired. I like that.
That ain't good.
So also shout out to. To your label and tycoon. Being the tycoon that you are. Easy money. I want to know. I want shout out to you for having Leon Thomas's party too. I came in and hung out with y' all for the party. And that. That was also.
Thank you for that. But my thing is, how do you find a Leon Thomas? Like, how did you first meet him? How did you discover him? Like, how did you. How did that. How did you forge that? Because you a busy person.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel so lucky to have met Leon. He's like, one of the best and easiest people that I've ever worked with.
I met him through my keyboard player at the time, and he was like, yo, I got this kid. You need to hear him. I think you're gonna love him. And I was like, bring him through. This was during COVID and he brought him through to the studio house we was working at. I heard the song California Cation that I end up featuring on, and I'm like, I can have this. He was like, yeah, you can have it. And I was gonna put it on probably one of them albums you heard back then that I didn't drop. And some time went by, and then he was going to put together a project, and I'm like, yeah, you could use it. Whatever. Cool. Like, I would love to be on the record. Like, thank you for choosing me, you know? And I played him for Sean Baron. Sean Baron was like, it's. It's a go automatically. We end up starting our label. We got our deal with Motown signed. Leon first put the first album out. People started loving it. Then once we put out Mutt, it was over.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: It was over with. Yeah, yeah, bro. Like, I ain't gonna lie to you.
That record became like a whole identity of its own. You know what I mean? And then. And then also, shout out to Breezy for doing the. The remix.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: Shout out to Breezy.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: Do you ever, like. How do you decide who goes on what records now? As a tycoon, as the. As the person that gets to make call the shot, so to speak. How do you decide who gets to be on what record?
[00:15:01] Speaker A: To me, I look at features the same way I look at what instrument I'm going to use on a song.
So there's different types of guitars. There's acoustic guitar, there's electric guitar, and there's many things you could do in an electric guitar. You can get, like, a regular tone that it plays, or you could get some distortion on it. You could put some flanger on it. You could do all these different things.
And I feel like whatever the record requires, that's who I'm gonna go for.
So.
Chris Brown, best in R and B ever. Word. So that's what we got.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: I have You. You brought up instruments, and I want to share some with the audience. But we going to play a song first. But what's the next record we going to get into?
[00:15:43] Speaker A: How did y' all find each other?
[00:15:45] Speaker C: I found them on Craigslist.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: See what I'm saying?
[00:15:49] Speaker C: I'm just kidding.
How did we find each other?
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Tell them.
[00:15:55] Speaker C: I don't know.
I forgot. I forgot.
I forgot.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: Now she forgot.
[00:16:04] Speaker C: I forgot.
I'll be off the edibles.
You remember he saw me cracking on the timeline, doing ciphers and stuff.
Like, oh, let me go help her out, because I look like I didn't know what I was doing, and I did it.
And then he came in and saved my life.
[00:16:27] Speaker A: It's crazy.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, that's.
[00:16:29] Speaker C: That's why I don't say nice about him. I found him on Craigslist.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: That's one. That's the version.
[00:16:34] Speaker C: What's your version?
[00:16:35] Speaker B: You were doing your thing, and I was like, you know, there isn't a lot of people empowering black women, so.
[00:16:41] Speaker C: Thank you.
That's a tie. Dollar sign.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: That's fine.
[00:16:47] Speaker C: I.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Why you tell everybody?
Damn.
[00:16:51] Speaker C: I was outside during the pushing era, so I have some, like, pusher ink type questions.
[00:16:56] Speaker A: Come on, can you.
[00:16:58] Speaker B: Outside? Yeah, we was turned up.
[00:17:00] Speaker A: Outside, outside.
[00:17:01] Speaker C: Turned up. Turned up. And I mean, like, throwback, like, YG Relax days, like Club Kiss era, the Picnics and all that.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Triple C's.
[00:17:10] Speaker C: Triple C's. Yeah, I remember.
Can you talk about the.
The Molly's? I don't know about them.
Can you talk?
Yeah, the.
Like, just that time, just in general, that era and how important that was and how did it shape you in your career today?
[00:17:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that was like.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: It was a.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: It was a crazy era for me. It was crazy because, like, When I was 18 years old, I'm from LA. I went to Hamilton first. I got kicked out of Hamilton, went to Laces, got kicked out of Laces, went to Uni, Got kicked out of Uni, went to Dorsey.
[00:17:51] Speaker B: You was problematic.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: I'm from la. Y' all know how it is.
[00:17:55] Speaker B: Y' all know how it is when.
[00:17:56] Speaker A: You go to a different school that you're not from that area type.
[00:17:59] Speaker C: It's the ot.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: Yeah. So after that, I got my first record deal, and that was with Virgin Records, with this dude named Kamara.
And this is at the same time where John Mayer first came out in dwelling. I don't know if y' all remember.
[00:18:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: This one. They first came out and I'm supposed to drop a project. It never happened. I Ended up getting dropped because Kamara ended up getting fired.
Then I go work with Timberlake and Will. I am with this guy Corey. I had a group called Ty and Corey that didn't end up happening now. Now we go to what, like 06.07.
I'm living in New York at the time.
07 08, I'm out there making beats, working with the G Unit crew. All these different people just making beats.
Then none of that stuff works. We put out a, like, cd, mixtapes with the same deal with Will and Justin.
And none of that goes nowhere, right? So I end up coming back to la.
Corey tells me, yo, if this don't work, I'm moving back to New York.
I'm like, all right.
He moved like a month before we made Tuted and booted.
My homie Big B was like, hey, I got this kid you need to meet from the city. He got it popping. I need you to meet him. And this other dj, I'm like, all right, all right, all right. I had him come to my house. YG pulls up with Mustard and the other homie ream riches.
YG plays. Well, they play me all his off of MySpace at the time. She a model.
It was She a model.
[00:19:54] Speaker C: Amy.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: Amy. All that and from my musical ear of like telling y' all what I just came from. And like, mind you, when I was on Virgin, I was like scoring movies and. Which I also scored my new documentary. And it's crazy, but like scoring movies, like arranging strings, all the instruments, like big musical mind, right? And then they play me yg and it's like this like three instrument type jerk music. And I'm like, I'm not with that. I don't know what to do with that. He's like, I'm telling you, you need to do this.
So he come over, we make two songs. The second song is Tooted and Booted.
I already kind of like had the song, like made me and my cousin tc, so I play it for him. He get on the song, next thing you know, we gotta hit.
Then we started getting. No, we. We went to DOC Waller beach, we shot the. The video with my homie, James Earl Jones.
The video gets a million plays on YouTube in the first month, right? So then we start getting the calls from the labels. They want to sign, they want to sign.
All right, cool.
So the deal comes through. The deal is they want to sign yg, they want to take TC off the song, and they about to drop it with me still on the hook. So cool. They dropped the Song. We start going through all these radio interviews and do all this stuff.
Once you see the song come out, it just says, yg, yg, no tie dollars. Yg, yg. I'm like, all right, all right, all right. What I'm gonna do? So I just keep on doing more songs. Doing more songs all the way up until.
When was the change in point? I put out that allstar song, which kind of started buzzing in la, but then I got sued from Swedish House Mafia because there was a sample in there. But fast forward, like two, three years ago, they came at me for a song and I charged them like 200,000 for the verse.
It was cool.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: It's all good.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: But shout out to them. No disrespect, you know, it just had to be like that.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: It's business.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: What else?
So, like 2012, me, my homegirl, Jizzle, the homie Phonics. We came up with this song called Fumble that was gonna be probably like on my first beach house one.
And they got the song somebody. Somehow, some way, it got to Trey songs, and Trey Songz cut the song.
And then the started going. So eyes were open at Atlantic. Sean was able to get me in there. I remember we went to my Karen. We went to a couple people. They wasn't seeing it. What did Mike Karen tell me? He was like, yeah, you're like the West Coast, Baby Baby bash. I'm like, what the does that mean?
Meaning?
Meaning that he was calling my, like, local. Yeah, like, yeah, you make one type of thing. You're like, west coast. Like, da, da, da, da. I'm like, that's up. Because Baby Bastard made some mega hits. You feel me? His went everywhere. I'll be in Europe and I hear this. Yeah. But then Sean and Aaron Basic was able to get the deal done. And I've been signed to Atlantic since 2012.
Starting from the pushing, though, it's like coming back to the city then I was able to gain fans. And really, I think the difference was I was. At first, I was what they call a studio rat to where I'm just, like, always in the studio every day. That's all I cared about. Just making beats, making songs, like, just loving the studio, which I still do to this day. But the difference was with YG is we started going out, performing, getting in front of the people, performing at the motorcycle clubs, performing at just LA parties. And then from that, it went to the Hollywood clubs. And then from that, all of a sudden I got a show in Arizona. All of a sudden I got a show In Vegas. Oh, Time to go back to New York.
And then from there, it was over.
[00:23:59] Speaker C: We need that Pusher Inc. Story told.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:24:02] Speaker C: I told YG that. Telling you.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Yeah, got to do that.
[00:24:07] Speaker C: I have to.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: It's a little bit of that in the documentary, but I didn't go that. That deep. I should have.
[00:24:14] Speaker B: Speaking of.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: So pause.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: You did mention Mustard, and Mustard has given you credit, know, for teaching him how to produce, you know, and. And that's big. That one of the greatest producers we ever seen is your protege.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying?
[00:24:31] Speaker A: I didn't. I didn't get into the Mustard part. So at that. At that time, when Mustard first came around, it was like. I think they was like, what, 17, 18.
And it was just. I was a clown back then. Like, we used to just bag on each other. That's that la. Like, look at your.
Look at your. You know, whatever. Like, whatever. We were just going back and forth. I'm with him, they with me. He didn't even make beats. He was just a DJ.
Probably like two years, like 909, 10, 11, 12.
I don't know when it was when that first. But he, like, literally, like, Tiger's Rack City was probably like his 11th BD ever made type of what. I swear, like, that's when they. When he started making beats. He's just watching everything, watching everything. I'm not even knowing that he's paying attention. And then he's like, yo, let me get some sounds. I give him some sounds back. Then I still to this day work on an NPC and a whole bunch of keyboards. And then they kind of got me into working on FL Studio and Ableton and all that stuff. But Mustard was using this called Reason, and he made YG's first mixtape. Well, the one after two didn't boot it. Was it just read up or one of those.
And after that, had the city buzzing. Tiger come, this person come. This person come, this person come. And now, like you said, he's the one of the best producers ever, so.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: And for you, like, seeing him on the super bowl stage and things like that, what does that. Does that. Do you get. Does. Do you take some level of pride in that, or do you just take.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Super pride in it? Right? And then you get other people that be like, oh, that should have been you.
And it's just like, people try to turn that jealous bug on in your head. I could never be jealous of my niggas, man. Like, that is a beautiful.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: That's what's up, bro?
[00:26:26] Speaker C: Talking the. The timeline. It seems like it's a long time ago. It feels closer, but it is, like, it was, like, a long time ago. So it's even an honor to even be able to sit here with you and see how far you've grown from.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:26:40] Speaker C: You know, from back then, for you, though, how does it feel? I mean, I could be jumping out the window, but this is how I feel. Like I said, I was outside you, the voice of the generation.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: And you're also a cheat code.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: Super cheat code.
[00:26:53] Speaker C: I think you might be the most featured artist of our generation for sure. You gave a lot of people records.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: I just.
I liked Lil Wayne. That's, like, one of my favorite artists ever. I mean, treads, body, covered in tattoos. Like, all these that did that is because of Lil Wayne, in my opinion. And, like, he was that guy. Like, you heard him on everything, and she was just so. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. That's what I wanted to be like.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: Like, man, that's what's up. Clap it up.
[00:27:26] Speaker C: Yeah, One more song, right?
[00:27:27] Speaker B: Yeah, we got one more off the album. You got to go ahead and text that one to me.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:27:33] Speaker C: That we can go live in this.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: You on switch that hard?
[00:27:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:40] Speaker A: Appreciate it.
[00:27:41] Speaker C: How much of the.
[00:27:41] Speaker B: Oh, go.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Go ahead.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: No, go ahead.
[00:27:43] Speaker C: I know you. Obviously, you produce. So how much of the production did you do on this project, and then how much did you allow others to help you?
[00:27:50] Speaker A: I produce on every song on the project, but I definitely like the process was some of the songs. I may start some of the songs. Somebody will send me a beat. I like a part of the beat. Whatever. All right, let me redo the drums. Or let me get this guy to do the drums. Let me get this guy to come play guitar. This guy to play. No, I'll play the bass. Oh, let me. Okay. I like what you playing, but give me that. This is what I want to hear.
Like, that kind of thing, you know? You know?
[00:28:17] Speaker B: You know, I think I told you before, but I be hating on you, cuz. Like, talented.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Your name is DJ Head.
How'd you get that name, by the way?
[00:28:28] Speaker B: He was making making fun of me. N. Just make fun of me.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying?
[00:28:33] Speaker B: It's not a big deal. Hey, put that thing.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: Put that thing.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: I be hating because I don't like. Because I'm not talented.
[00:28:46] Speaker A: Like. Like that.
[00:28:47] Speaker B: Like, I'm talented in different ways, but, like, I've been in this.
[00:28:49] Speaker A: You definitely are, bro. Thank you great at what you do.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: I've been seeing you for years. Just walk in the studio and just pick an instrument up off the floor and just start playing that motherfucker. I'm like, what the is, like, it's irritating to somebody who can't do that, you know?
But when you are collaborating with people and you say, like. Like, you just said, like, oh, I want to play like you. You literally say, no, I want you to play it like this. And then you fucking play it. And then you tell them, I play that like this.
Like, I guess I'm not a musician, so I don't know how it works. But what is that? Is that just more people? I mean, is that just more like, people kind of get instruction from you, or is that more like.
Like. Like, they call it music direction. Right. So would you provide that service for somebody else is what I'm trying to get at. Like, would you have you music directed other people, and would you continue to.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: Do that all the time? I'm always, like, helping out on everybody else's album.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: Like, I'm talking about tours and studio albums, stuff like that.
[00:29:47] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: Who have you provided some music direction for, if you can?
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Many people.
Just in the beginning, a lot of people don't know, but, like, in the beginning, like, when I was, like, nine years old, I used to play keys for Immature.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: Get the fuck out of here, bro. How did I not know this?
[00:30:06] Speaker A: Yeah, bro. Like, I started off doing that, and, like, when I got older, I sung backgrounds for Guy with Teddy Riley.
[00:30:17] Speaker B: Word?
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Like what I always tell people, if you want to do something, learn everybody's job facts that's involved with whatever you're doing.
And, like, like I said, from background singing to playing instruments to playing. Playing in churches to whatever, and then going to produce for different people, going to write for different people.
Most of y' all know, but I wrote Loyal for Chris Brown.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: A lot of people don't know that.
[00:30:45] Speaker A: That's crazy.
I'm not the guy that, like, that's what.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: That's where I'm doing this.
[00:30:52] Speaker A: That makes the post. After I wrote this, hey, I did this. Like, I hate when I'm on track.
[00:30:57] Speaker C: Eight of this album.
[00:30:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I get it. It's just like, let me get my. My 15 minutes. But once I just give it away, I give it away, you know?
[00:31:06] Speaker B: But you do need to. I mean, I'm just. I brought that up for that reason. I wasn't aware of that other. That's crazy. I didn't know that, but I Do think that a lot more of y' all who contribute to everybody else's art need to take more of your credit, Because a lot of people need to be able to understand what goes into it. The Internet. And a lot of artists, and especially independent, who preach independence, make it seem like they go in the studio by themselves and make a hit record.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: And it's like. It's not that, bro. Like, I've seen you in the studio. I'm gonna blow the spot up. But I've seen you with hella producers, and y', all, you playing keys and this playing the guitar. And, like, it's a jam session. It's like the Internet oversimplifies it to the point where it's like, oh, no, I just went in there and made her hit records. Like, nah. Music is collaborative in that way.
[00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: So that's why I'm gonna.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: I just did this thing with Twitch where I'm gonna open my stream and, like, I'm gonna show that I got a room. I bought this building in Hollywood, and, like, the. The bottom floor is tycoon. Yeah, real tycoon.
The bottom floor is, like, three different studio rooms with live rooms, and the middle one is, like, got all the keyboards and all that. So I'm gonna set up cameras and show people the whole process how.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Just make the beats right there.
Come up with a hook or somebody come in the room, say something crazy. I like that. Bam. That's the hook.
Then different artists just showed. Like, the other day, Big Sean just popped up at the gate. They like, big shot. I'm like, I didn't talk to that.
But that's how it be, like, you know? So I'm gonna show that.
[00:32:36] Speaker B: Thank you, bro.
[00:32:37] Speaker C: I don't want to breeze by the immature thing.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:41] Speaker C: So recently, it was actually a clip that just resurfaced on Twitter of you on stage with them. Can you just talk about your time with Immature?
[00:32:49] Speaker A: Like, I said, I was nine years old. I did. I did shows like the Arsenio hall show. I did Soul Train. I did all that.
And it was just playing keys.
My dad knew their manager, Chris, and he put us together. At the time, Ray J was singing backgrounds. Brandy was singing backgrounds. Like, it's just crazy how music works because it's such a small world. And then everybody went on to do their thing. And then. And in high school, like I said, I went to Hamilton. So at Hamilton, at the same time as me, me, Omaran, and Nipsey, all at the same school, I knew Nip was rapping, but I never knew oh was gonna be a singer. Like, he used to come, like, we'll be, you know, in our little circles at lunchtime, standing around girls, this come up, start dancing. Like, why is this doing this?
But he also rapped and he would, like, be in the ciphers or whatever, and he would come to the crib. I make beats for him. And. And then when one day he just disappeared from the school and he came back B2K. So it was crazy.
[00:33:52] Speaker C: Like, wow, you done live some lives.
[00:33:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
And then after that, like, it was this group that I joined called Sarah Creative Partners, like, playing for them. And that was like the first time I got a feature off.
It wasn't his Ty Dollar Sign, though. It was Ty from Ty and Corey. And from that crew, it was Anderson Paak. There was Thundercat, Taz Arnold and all them. And that's how I end up meeting Bruh.
[00:34:22] Speaker C: When did you become an artist?
[00:34:25] Speaker A: Like, artist artists?
[00:34:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: The first time when I say I became like an artist artist when I just didn't give a no more is when we went to go perform tooted and booted in the first Hollywood club. And I seen them hand yg $10,000 cash.
He gave mustard 400 for djing. He gave me 400 for singing the hook. And when I seen that big ass wide walk away, I was like, oh, I'm a. I'm an artist.
I can sing. I don't give a fuck who I'm in front of.
But before that, it was like, I just didn't feel comfortable doing it. I would rather just play bass or play keys or just be in the background. I got beats like that type of shit.
[00:35:16] Speaker C: I always wanted to know if Paranoid was inspired by a real situation.
[00:35:21] Speaker A: You remember Supper club? You ever been to Supper club?
[00:35:23] Speaker C: I never. I wasn't that cool, but I remember it.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: So you had two bitches in Supper club?
[00:35:31] Speaker A: Yeah, man.
It was really three. But I was just like.
[00:35:36] Speaker C: Inspiration in a club is crazy.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: A lot of inspiration in there.
[00:35:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
Let me get my whole fashion zone. Talk to us about that night.
[00:35:50] Speaker A: It was just one of them nights, man. To me, Supper club was probably the best club LA had since I've been going. The clubs. Yeah, they had like in the sec. First of all, everything was all white, even though it's black power. And it was like white beds. Like everything. You stand on the beds. Yeah. Sound a little, you know, who partyish.
But it was. It wasn't. It wasn't like that.
So that was the sections or Whatever. I'm just in my section. It's probably me, Joe Moses, yg, all the homies.
And I came with whoever in her home, girls. And then as you see walking right behind the table, going with some other table. One of my other ones.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: Is there.
[00:36:41] Speaker A: And then in the distance, I'm like.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: Oh, shit, it's another one.
[00:36:44] Speaker C: Another one?
[00:36:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:46] Speaker C: Is it? I know the. We know about the Joe Moses one. Obviously, Bob is on the first one. Is there another version of Paranoid, like any other feature?
[00:36:56] Speaker A: You know what's funny about that beat I made? Like, Paranoid was the third song that I made on that beat. I don't remember the other songs, but it was just like that beat was so hard to me because it was the first time that I heard house music being infused in la. Like, music like.
Because of that, it sounded like the old Show Me Love.
Even though he ended up doing the Show Me Love over.
I think it was Chris Brown. Yeah. But that was the first time I heard that.
So I'm like, trying to get this. That just feels right. And then by the time I made a Paranoid after I made that hook, it just in the backgrounds. It reminded me of the first time I heard Poisoned by bbd. It just felt that good.
Like, as far as, like, singing some.
Some Hood over, like a pop beat, you know? So, yeah, that's how that went.
Joe Moses hopped on the joint. And then we just at that time, not knowing our songs are gonna blow up.
He's just talking wild.
[00:38:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: The. About the man's wife. Yeah.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: So a lot of going on.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: Yeah, man. Like, next thing you know, I start getting calls from and, like, my Trader Truth. Then I get on the phone with Tiffy. Like, who this Joe Moses?
It's my wife. I'm like. We end up fixing that and letting him know that, you know, this is the time where used to just rap and try to get a reaction, you know, not know anybody was gonna actually hear the song.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:30] Speaker A: But then it blew up and history. The label wanted Bob, who's also my brother, shout out to Bob, very talented guy. And we put him on there. And the song went even further.
[00:38:41] Speaker B: So I know we got a rap soon, but I got two more things I want to talk to you about real quick.
One is, congratulations being featured on Scissors Hit different, which is three times platinum officially.
[00:38:55] Speaker A: I'm so proud of Scissor man, bro.
[00:38:58] Speaker B: I want to know what that conversation was like from. For that. For that record.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: All right, so I'm in Miami and I got this show. We fly way out there, it's raining crazy.
And they say the show is canceled because it's just raining too crazy. Right. I already got my first half of the money, though, so I'm not tripping. Cool. It's just an off day in Miami. What we gonna do? We trying to figure out something to do, but it's raining crazy. My homie Aunt Clemens hits me up. I'm out here too, Yo. Come to the studio. I'm with Pharrell and Scissors. I'm like, all right, for sure. I pull up over there.
They just going through beats and.
And finally the hit different beat comes on. I'm just humming, come up with this hook. She's like going to room and the. The vocal booth. I hadn't done vocal boost in a long time. Most of us just now, like, straight laptop mic set up right there. Just like, how you see me right here? Bam. I'm recording. She wanted me to go in the booth. I'm like, all right, I go in the booth. When I go in the booth, she's got these crystals set up.
Of course she do, like, in this weird, like, shape. I'm not going to say weird. It's in whatever shape she wanted it to be. And she's like, no, you got to stand here, move your shoulders like this.
All right, go. And then she went out the room. I'm singing this. I'm not sure of it. I'm just like, freestyling. They like, nah, that's it.
She goes in a booth, does all her words by herself, kills it. Next thing you know, they're like, yo, we dropping it as a single.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:40:30] Speaker A: The goes up, we shoot the video, and there we have it.
[00:40:34] Speaker B: That's crazy, bro.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: Shout out to Scissor, man.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: I've.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: I've. I've been to the stadiums. I've been killing it.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: I've been to the studio after Scissor left, and it definitely is like a scene.
The other thing is everybody got their.
[00:40:48] Speaker A: Different process.
[00:40:50] Speaker B: Yeah. We haven't talked since. Well, not officially, but since, you know, you shared the stage with us at the pop out, you know, that was like, oh, yeah. Historic. Historic LA night. I know what it meant for me just to be there with all of the homies and be in fellowship and be celebrating.
Not necessarily being anti anybody, but celebrating us. What was that like for you? Like, full LA culture.
[00:41:10] Speaker A: Like, it was incredible. It was like, look what we did, you know? And, like, a lot of those faces I've been seeing are over this whole 10 year run.
[00:41:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:41:20] Speaker A: And Kendrick was On the first album, btc. So just seeing where he took it is amazing.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: The song la.
[00:41:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: That's ironic.
[00:41:29] Speaker C: First track.
[00:41:29] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:41:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: Thank you, bro. Like, you always been solid. Like you always been one of the ones. Like you always. I come to the house, you let me listen to the albums on the Bluetooth speaker. Just like, I really appreciate you trusting me over the years. Like, we ain't got to get into.
[00:41:43] Speaker A: It, but like, story about him, like, you came around with the guy who put me on my first feature as Ty$sign, which is G Malone.
They used to pull out to my Long beach house.
[00:41:58] Speaker C: Is that what she gave me?
[00:41:59] Speaker A: That good? Yeah, man. That was like my first feature video and all that. So I'm thankful to y', all like forever. Bro.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Bro, thank you. But before you go, we do have a surprise for you that you didn't know about.
J1, bring it in. Where we at for all your work.
[00:42:17] Speaker D: We just want to present you with this billionaires plaque. I know you're a tycoon, but you're a billionaire also for having over 2 billion US streams on Pandora. So congratulations, my brother.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: I appreciate this. I'm honored. Thank you. And thank you. Thank you all for being here.
[00:42:38] Speaker B: Let's do what if.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: What if, what if?
Streams equated to dollars.
I damn near be Elon Musk now.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: For real though, man. Make sure y' all check out that. That tycoon album. It's going. It's everywhere right now. Go get it, Go stream it.
And make sure y' all love and tap in with Ty$Sign. Make some noise with Ty$Sign.
[00:43:01] Speaker D: Y' all make some noise for DJ Hannah Gina Views. They did a great job, right LA.
